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Hi guys hope you doing well,

Shannon, do you plan on doing a Symmetrical + Golden Ratio Face physical change sub ?

Facial symmetry has been shown to have an effect on ratings of attractiveness in human faces and I think it plays a good role in everyday interactions with peoples.
What is the custom sub anyways?
Shannon,

I believe that the ARA needs to be supremely beefed up.

I’ve noticed that when I’m very close to closing, like when it’s a sure thing and I’m 99% there I go into this state of anxiety/fear which doesn’t seem logical to me in the least bit, it’s very annoying and has been going on for a while now (I’ve had this even before DMSI). It usually involves stomach pains, the runs and/or feelings of constipation, sometimes my body will begin to shake involuntarily as if it’s freezing cold even when it’s very warm. When I push through this it usually leads me to ejaculating much earlier than I’d like- as if my body is screaming at me to finish and get out of there ASAP (even with a condom).

But when I’m drunk (and not even that drunk- think 4-6 shots or so) this all completely evaporates. I feel strong and in control and can go as long as I like- I actually hit a PR the other night at about 3 hrs in one round (around 5-7 shots of rum).


What is this? The reasoning/cause behind this has long eluded me and I just need to get rid of it already

Any input you can give me will be well appreciated.
Also will you be including a module in 3.3 to use body fat for fuel?

I ask this because I have not since lost the weight from 3.0/3.1. I was 210 lbs (still overweight then) at the start of 3.0 and now I’m over 240.

I also strongly believe that being at lower weight/body fat level (if needed) is a very important factor in being as attractive as possible. I was personally in my prime like 5 yrs when i was around 170-180 lbs. Things started to go downhill when I started to get to 190-195+ lbs.

I hope you strongly consider including this.
Supposedly body fat as fuel scripting is in 3.2, but it could certainly use some beefing up.
Southeast D.C. is soooo 'rough', they call it 'southeast the beast!!"....though the Beast16 May not be rough,however it definitely sounds like its gonna be 'Thee Beastiest of Da Beasts', a Real Muther!
Da Beast to say da least !!
Question : Will da Beast16 be applicable to ALL future programs or ONLY a select few,Shannon? and/or with some modifications to it for each different program according to its Main Goal(s)????

NOTE" NEVER mind, I back tracked and read some earlier postings on this 'page',after FIRST reading Shannon's most recent post in HIS Personal Journal...I saw where Shannon said as he';s said before he stated that the Beast will NOT be included in ANY other program.... so thats that...maybe for future programs they'll be a 'engine or a beast of sorts' that will be called 'The Feast'...for other programs,that'll 'jack them up' into Hyper,Hyper speed,ect:-)? We'll see fer shure.
(06-11-2018, 02:31 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Southeast D.C. is soooo 'rough', they call it 'southeast the beast!!"....though the Beast16 May not be rough,however it definitely sounds like its gonna be 'Thee Beastiest of Da Beasts', a Real Muther!
Da Beast to say da least !!
Question : Will da Beast16 be applicable to ALL future programs or ONLY a select few,Shannon? and/or with some modifications to it for each different program according to its Main Goal(s)????

NOTE" NEVER mind, I back tracked and read some earlier postings on this 'page',after FIRST reading Shannon's most recent post in HIS Personal Journal...I saw where Shannon said as he';s said before he stated that the Beast will NOT be included in ANY other program.... so thats that...maybe for future programs they'll be a 'engine or a beast of sorts' that will be called 'The Feast'...for other programs,that'll 'jack them up' into Hyper,Hyper speed,ect:-)? We'll see fer shure.

Hold on... what program is Beast going in then?
Quote:What is the custom sub anyways?

It's a secret. Shannon isn't going to reveal it yet.

Quote:Hold on... what program is Beast going in then?

Beast is just used for testing new technologies and for development as Shannon has said.
(06-09-2018, 09:08 AM)AlphaRomeo Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2018, 02:44 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-08-2018, 01:37 PM)Hatman Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon. In your previous post you mentioned conscious/subconscious boredom. What if someday I found a single stage sub that I would like to listen for far longer than 3 months? Can the subconscious regain interest in it again after a long enough break?

Not every type of personality or awareness will get bored. Some do, most don't. If it gets bored, then it will tend to need either a break, if one stage, or a different stimulus if it's multi stage.

Shannon, are you referring here to all subs or DMSI specifically? I am assuming all subs, but just wanted to make sure. I have been running MLS 5.5 now about 8 months and while I do enjoy it overall and the benefits it brings I do get these periods where I am bored of running it. My original plan was to run it 12 months but now I am thinking to give it a break or switch to another sub (after required pause) after 9.th month. The thing is I´m not sure how "far" I am in the process or "evolution" in the learning stages you have roughly defined here: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-User-...#pid188210

For those personalities that get bored, they do so usually at about the 2-3 month mark. That is part of why I created multi-stage subs snd sub scripting. This defeats boredom for those personalities by giving the person a relatively short term change of pace, while still advancing them to the goal.

Quote:It would not make sense to stop using it before the full learning, but then again maybe I am already there. I wonder if there is a way of knowing for sure, or if I knew being already there. What I do know is that there are at least some significant changes in my "brain power" already. Since you mentioned in your post that if bored " it will tend to need either a break" I was wondering if this applies to conscious boredom as well. And the "big question"; in case of boredom would it make sense to take a break (and how long) and then get back to MLS? I assume the effects of running MLS are long lasting if not permanent, so when going back to MLS after break I would roughly "pick up" where I left in terms of learning. Am I right? Any words of wisdom greatly appreciated, as always. Thank you.

It will depend on the personality as to whether or not it needs a break consciously, etc. I haven't really seen any indication that conscious boredom impedes sub effectiveness though.

If you think you are no longer making gains because your subconscious is bored, then I suggest taking a month or two off. I would say off subs entirely. That way your break allows for rest, integration, blooming and execution without distraction and pulling you away from the effects you've been working to program in, in the case of MLS. Then go back to it.

Where you pick up after you start again will depend on what happens during the break. You might bloom and execute the hell out of it; seems likely, actually, although physical changes to the brain take time.
(06-11-2018, 10:38 AM)NoLimit Wrote: [ -> ]Hi guys hope you doing well,

Shannon, do you plan on doing a Symmetrical + Golden Ratio Face physical change sub ?

Facial symmetry has been shown to have an effect on ratings of attractiveness in human faces and I think it plays a good role in everyday interactions with peoples.

No. Not planning to do anything like that for the foreseeable future. It's already in DMSI. It isn't worded like you put it, but the effects should be the same.
(06-11-2018, 10:53 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]What is the custom sub anyways?

The custom sub is not something I can reveal yet. When the time comes, I will not only reveal what it is, I will make it available to the public to buy. But that time is not for a while yet.
(06-11-2018, 01:49 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,

I believe that the ARA needs to be supremely beefed up.

I’ve noticed that when I’m very close to closing, like when it’s a sure thing and I’m 99% there I go into this state of anxiety/fear which doesn’t seem logical to me in the least bit, it’s very annoying and has been going on for a while now (I’ve had this even before DMSI). It usually involves stomach pains, the runs and/or feelings of constipation, sometimes my body will begin to shake involuntarily as if it’s freezing cold even when it’s very warm. When I push through this it usually leads me to ejaculating much earlier than I’d like- as if my body is screaming at me to finish and get out of there ASAP (even with a condom).

But when I’m drunk (and not even that drunk- think 4-6 shots or so) this all completely evaporates. I feel strong and in control and can go as long as I like- I actually hit a PR the other night at about 3 hrs in one round (around 5-7 shots of rum).


What is this? The reasoning/cause behind this has long eluded me and I just need to get rid of it already

Any input you can give me will be well appreciated.

What you're seeing is that alcohol is physically disabling the part of your brain that is responsible for your anxiety being physically expressed. ARA is apparently being overridden by fear based resistance. Why, I don't know; you'll have to ask your subconscious what it fears and why. How many loops are you using it for?
(06-11-2018, 01:55 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]Also will you be including a module in 3.3 to use body fat for fuel?

I ask this because I have not since lost the weight from 3.0/3.1. I was 210 lbs (still overweight then) at the start of 3.0 and now I’m over 240.

I also strongly believe that being at lower weight/body fat level (if needed) is a very important factor in being as attractive as possible. I was personally in my prime like 5 yrs when i was around 170-180 lbs. Things started to go downhill when I started to get to 190-195+ lbs.

I hope you strongly consider including this.

It's already in there. Unfortunately, some of you are resisting it.
(06-11-2018, 02:31 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Southeast D.C. is soooo 'rough', they call it 'southeast the beast!!"....though the Beast16 May not be rough,however it definitely sounds like its gonna be 'Thee Beastiest of Da Beasts', a Real Muther!
Da Beast to say da least !!
Question : Will da Beast16 be applicable to ALL future programs or ONLY a select few,Shannon? and/or with some modifications to it for each different program according to its Main Goal(s)????

NOTE" NEVER mind, I back tracked and read some earlier postings on this 'page',after FIRST reading Shannon's most recent post in HIS Personal Journal...I saw where Shannon said as he';s said before he stated that the Beast will NOT be included in ANY other program.... so thats that...maybe for future programs they'll be a 'engine or a beast of sorts' that will be called 'The Feast'...for other programs,that'll 'jack them up' into Hyper,Hyper speed,ect:-)? We'll see fer shure.

Beast is basically designed to be a sandboxing subliminal, and when I am done achieving design spec with it, I will mine the developed technologies from it that allowed it to achieve design spec and put them in the skeleton script to turn it into 6G.

So from that point of view, technically Beast will be in every 6G. But the entire script of beast would not work as an inclusion in other subs.
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