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(09-04-2018, 09:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-04-2018, 07:53 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2018, 04:05 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2018, 01:48 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2018, 10:20 AM)TheGreatAttractor Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

Regarding the next (6G) itereation of the MHS sub, have you considered adding to following 2 modules to the sub:

1) An Aging Reversal module to restore the body to a state of peak physical and mental fitness. I know that MHS already has modules to optimize physical functions, but I was thinking more along the lines of reversing the actual effects of aging (shortening of the telomeres, damage to the DNA...etc)

2) A module which directly affects the genome of the user - gene expression as well as the actual coding of the genome itself.

Of course, I understand that "saftey comes first", and you will need to do meticulous research and testing before you do this. I also understand that this (#2) might not even be possible (personally, I know from experience that manifestation is possible, and based on that - I strongly suspect that manipulating the genome via the subconscious is also possible).

That being said, I'm getting the feeling that you are not far (less than 12 months) from finishing the development of 6G. Your latest version of beast is extremely close to achieving its design goals. Before 6G is complete, I am hoping to see at least an *attempt* at the 2 modules mentioned above.

Totally AGREED Fella,totally agreed!! I Know of several things right now that help with the elongation of the telemeres. Also Shannon has it already on his list at some point to create an 'ant-aging,age reveral" type of program because several of us men,here have brought it up And hE'S thusly commented on his ideas,plans and related,to eventually building a such a program. Man oh Man the shits thats gonna be coming down the pike from and with Indigo Mind Labs...along these and other lines in 6G technologies, will be nothing short of Phe----Nom-Meee-Nal !!! Huge Understatements!! Its a most Groovy Day and time to be vibing and being alive!! Keith.

I am definitely looking forward to building the 6G stuff. Not only am I tired as hell of developing it, but it will be nice to have a single generation of subs that encompasses every title I have ever made, plus all the stuff I haven't built yet -- and can do what 6G will do.

We are going to see the whole world change in 2019 because of 6G. Exciting times we live in.
@Shannon
I am looknig forward to all of the titles you plan on building for 6G. Is it hyperbole to say that 6G subs will change the world?

No, it's not. When we have subs that can deal with most of the fear we are being challenged by right now, imagine what becomes possible. 6G should be able to do that. And while it may or may not take me a while to figure out some physical stuff and maybe genetic stuff, the Type B and Type A stuff should be done at 6G.

So for example, what if we had DMSI achieving design spec for at least 90% who run it? What if MIR could reduce the length of an infection to 10% of normal, or less? What if E3 worked several times better, faster and more easily than E2? What if AM7 was mopping the floor with AM6?

I'm not saying that will happen, but I am saying that is my goal with 6G. We will of course have to wait and see how things play out, but if you remember how E2, the very first 5.5G, shocked everyone with how much more powerful and effective it was than 5G, I think that same thing is going to happen when I release 6G.

What is left to stop you from success, when there is no fear left?

@Shannon
I see. I know fear was a big issue for me in BAMM 2.0 as it was for most people that ran it. If those issues were overcome, then the achieving the goal would be far easier.

I hope and think you will achieve all of this. Another title I am looking forward to is LM 6G and how far you can push and magnify luck.
Shannon\Ben,

Stage 2 on SM has been absolute hell for me. All I am getting is anger, lack of motivation, I have even lost the motivation to meet and date women. When I walk down the road as women approach me they either look down or look side ways like they are looking at something passing by. Clearly they are avoiding my gaze or pretending to look at something else. At one point I was thinking of giving up and going back to DMSI. Is this normal ? especially after I spent months clearing on DMSI.
@Shannon Is there a limit on how attractive one can be? Is there an upper threshold, or is it possible to keep getting more and more attractive for-ever to levels unheard or unseen of in the last few million years of human/humanoid history?
(09-04-2018, 10:11 AM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Is there a limit on how attractive one can be? Is there an upper threshold, or is it possible to keep getting more and more attractive for-ever to levels unheard or unseen of in the last few million years of human/humanoid history?

I think attraction is based on energy(type and intensity). So the answer I think is no. There is no limit imo.
(09-04-2018, 09:03 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-04-2018, 08:47 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, which program would be most beneficial for someone who is going through depression, anxiety, and lots of fear, etc, that is on the same level of healing&clearing power as dmsi 3.2a? Would it be Self-Esteem 5.5G? I'm considering recommending these subs to someone at some point.

The only thing that has the same level of H&C power as DMSI A is DMSI A. If you want a more healing focused approach, you should go for E2. SE 5.5G will not deal fully with the underlying issue unless they're based completely in self esteem, and I would bet that they aren't.

In your shoes, I would suggest E2 is probably better than DMSI, since DMSI isn't focused on a goal of healing, and is focused on a goal that so far induces a lot of fear.

I see, okay. At what point was E2 made, in your past sub creation queue? Like was it between 3.1 and 3.2? I'm just curious because I forgot. Also, do you think you're going to create a next level of E2 with all the new techs, at some point soon? If not, I am totally requesting this.
(09-04-2018, 02:24 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-04-2018, 09:03 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-04-2018, 08:47 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, which program would be most beneficial for someone who is going through depression, anxiety, and lots of fear, etc, that is on the same level of healing&clearing power as dmsi 3.2a? Would it be Self-Esteem 5.5G? I'm considering recommending these subs to someone at some point.

The only thing that has the same level of H&C power as DMSI A is DMSI A. If you want a more healing focused approach, you should go for E2. SE 5.5G will not deal fully with the underlying issue unless they're based completely in self esteem, and I would bet that they aren't.

In your shoes, I would suggest E2 is probably better than DMSI, since DMSI isn't focused on a goal of healing, and is focused on a goal that so far induces a lot of fear.

I see, okay. At what point was E2 made, in your past sub creation queue? Like was it between 3.1 and 3.2? I'm just curious because I forgot. Also, do you think you're going to create a next level of E2 with all the new techs, at some point soon? If not, I am totally requesting this.

E2 was the first 5.5G sub. It was released before even the first iteration of DMSI (V1), which was actually titled AOSI - Aura of Sexual Irresistibility, before the name was changed to DMSI for V2.1. E2 is over 2 years old, now, and still a phenomenal sub.
(09-04-2018, 09:52 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-04-2018, 09:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-04-2018, 07:53 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2018, 04:05 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2018, 01:48 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Totally AGREED Fella,totally agreed!! I Know of several things right now that help with the elongation of the telemeres. Also Shannon has it already on his list at some point to create an 'ant-aging,age reveral" type of program because several of us men,here have brought it up And hE'S thusly commented on his ideas,plans and related,to eventually building a such a program. Man oh Man the shits thats gonna be coming down the pike from and with Indigo Mind Labs...along these and other lines in 6G technologies, will be nothing short of Phe----Nom-Meee-Nal !!! Huge Understatements!! Its a most Groovy Day and time to be vibing and being alive!! Keith.

I am definitely looking forward to building the 6G stuff. Not only am I tired as hell of developing it, but it will be nice to have a single generation of subs that encompasses every title I have ever made, plus all the stuff I haven't built yet -- and can do what 6G will do.

We are going to see the whole world change in 2019 because of 6G. Exciting times we live in.
@Shannon
I am looknig forward to all of the titles you plan on building for 6G. Is it hyperbole to say that 6G subs will change the world?

No, it's not. When we have subs that can deal with most of the fear we are being challenged by right now, imagine what becomes possible. 6G should be able to do that. And while it may or may not take me a while to figure out some physical stuff and maybe genetic stuff, the Type B and Type A stuff should be done at 6G.

So for example, what if we had DMSI achieving design spec for at least 90% who run it? What if MIR could reduce the length of an infection to 10% of normal, or less? What if E3 worked several times better, faster and more easily than E2? What if AM7 was mopping the floor with AM6?

I'm not saying that will happen, but I am saying that is my goal with 6G. We will of course have to wait and see how things play out, but if you remember how E2, the very first 5.5G, shocked everyone with how much more powerful and effective it was than 5G, I think that same thing is going to happen when I release 6G.

What is left to stop you from success, when there is no fear left?

@Shannon
I see. I know fear was a big issue for me in BAMM 2.0 as it was for most people that ran it. If those issues were overcome, then the achieving the goal would be far easier.

I hope and think you will achieve all of this. Another title I am looking forward to is LM 6G and how far you can push and magnify luck.

I am going to achieve it. The question is, for what percentage of the population do I have the patience to achieve it? I'm aiming for 98%+. We shall see how far I get.
(09-04-2018, 10:04 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon\Ben,

Stage 2 on SM has been absolute hell for me. All I am getting is anger, lack of motivation, I have even lost the motivation to meet and date women. When I walk down the road as women approach me they either look down or look side ways like they are looking at something passing by. Clearly they are avoiding my gaze or pretending to look at something else. At one point I was thinking of giving up and going back to DMSI. Is this normal ? especially after I spent months clearing on DMSI.

Thor, you were getting very good results on DMSI. Then you convinced yourself that you could get just as good or better results on SM, and switched. But SM is what, 4 or 5 years old now? 5G? I think that DMSI was too much for your subconscious to resist, so it convinced you to use something it could resist. At first you were getting DMSI bloom, and now you're done with that and getting this.

I didn't say anything because I wanted to see how this would play out, but I was expecting this.

SM requires a calibrated man. You get some of that calibration by using it directly after AM or AM refresher, or you can get it by using the program to completion. This is what happens when you're not calibrated, and possibly resisting.

Going to SM after DMSI is just kidding yourself, in my opinion. That's like trying to go back to Windows 95 after using Windows 7 or later.
(09-04-2018, 10:11 AM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Is there a limit on how attractive one can be? Is there an upper threshold, or is it possible to keep getting more and more attractive for-ever to levels unheard or unseen of in the last few million years of human/humanoid history?

Attractiveness is a function of two things. One is energy, and that can be manipulated to a large (but not infinite) degree. The other is perception, and perception can be adjusted to whatever degree you like as long as you know how to do it.

So while we may or may not have already achieved that potential with DMSI, I believe that it is possible to become more attractive forever, but not necessarily to everyone.
(09-04-2018, 09:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-04-2018, 07:53 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2018, 04:05 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2018, 01:48 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2018, 10:20 AM)TheGreatAttractor Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

Regarding the next (6G) itereation of the MHS sub, have you considered adding to following 2 modules to the sub:

1) An Aging Reversal module to restore the body to a state of peak physical and mental fitness. I know that MHS already has modules to optimize physical functions, but I was thinking more along the lines of reversing the actual effects of aging (shortening of the telomeres, damage to the DNA...etc)

2) A module which directly affects the genome of the user - gene expression as well as the actual coding of the genome itself.

Of course, I understand that "saftey comes first", and you will need to do meticulous research and testing before you do this. I also understand that this (#2) might not even be possible (personally, I know from experience that manifestation is possible, and based on that - I strongly suspect that manipulating the genome via the subconscious is also possible).

That being said, I'm getting the feeling that you are not far (less than 12 months) from finishing the development of 6G. Your latest version of beast is extremely close to achieving its design goals. Before 6G is complete, I am hoping to see at least an *attempt* at the 2 modules mentioned above.

Totally AGREED Fella,totally agreed!! I Know of several things right now that help with the elongation of the telemeres. Also Shannon has it already on his list at some point to create an 'ant-aging,age reveral" type of program because several of us men,here have brought it up And hE'S thusly commented on his ideas,plans and related,to eventually building a such a program. Man oh Man the shits thats gonna be coming down the pike from and with Indigo Mind Labs...along these and other lines in 6G technologies, will be nothing short of Phe----Nom-Meee-Nal !!! Huge Understatements!! Its a most Groovy Day and time to be vibing and being alive!! Keith.

I am definitely looking forward to building the 6G stuff. Not only am I tired as hell of developing it, but it will be nice to have a single generation of subs that encompasses every title I have ever made, plus all the stuff I haven't built yet -- and can do what 6G will do.

We are going to see the whole world change in 2019 because of 6G. Exciting times we live in.
@Shannon
I am looknig forward to all of the titles you plan on building for 6G. Is it hyperbole to say that 6G subs will change the world?

No, it's not. When we have subs that can deal with most of the fear we are being challenged by right now, imagine what becomes possible. 6G should be able to do that. And while it may or may not take me a while to figure out some physical stuff and maybe genetic stuff, the Type B and Type A stuff should be done at 6G.

So for example, what if we had DMSI achieving design spec for at least 90% who run it? What if MIR could reduce the length of an infection to 10% of normal, or less? What if E3 worked several times better, faster and more easily than E2? What if AM7 was mopping the floor with AM6?

I'm not saying that will happen, but I am saying that is my goal with 6G. We will of course have to wait and see how things play out, but if you remember how E2, the very first 5.5G, shocked everyone with how much more powerful and effective it was than 5G, I think that same thing is going to happen when I release 6G.

What is left to stop you from success, when there is no fear left?




@Shannon
Above you said:
Quote:So for example, what if we had DMSI achieving design spec for at least 90% who run it?

Please can you try and make this atleast 95 or 99% of the population? lol

and what percentage of the customers of ILM or forum members do you think are still having issues with execution compared to those that arent? are the majority executing partially, fully or are they not executing subs yet?

and please can anyone explain what B17 is, even now whenever ive asked this im confused yet read so many here comment about B17 as if its the answer to execution. If indeed it is then im all for beast 18 if it means I and others can fully execute any and all 6G subs in the future Smile

thank you
Quote:I see, okay. At what point was E2 made, in your past sub creation queue? Like was it between 3.1 and 3.2? I'm just curious because I forgot. Also, do you think you're going to create a next level of E2 with all the new techs, at some point soon? If not, I am totally requesting this.

It was way before that.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-News-...-available-

I'd love that too, part of me is keen to see what it would be like in 6g, but if it was updated, like E2.5 in 5.5g i'd be likely to use it.
Quote:Please can you try and make this atleast 95 or 99% of the population? lol
I had a fear of missing out and still do in a way. But nowadays it's much less now. I'm more optimistic that it'll work out for me. I think fear is just holding us back. No point having it. Trust that you're enough and visualise it working for you. That's the best you can do rather than holding in a lotta fear within you.
(09-04-2018, 03:05 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-04-2018, 10:04 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon\Ben,

Stage 2 on SM has been absolute hell for me. All I am getting is anger, lack of motivation, I have even lost the motivation to meet and date women. When I walk down the road as women approach me they either look down or look side ways like they are looking at something passing by. Clearly they are avoiding my gaze or pretending to look at something else. At one point I was thinking of giving up and going back to DMSI. Is this normal ? especially after I spent months clearing on DMSI.

Thor, you were getting very good results on DMSI. Then you convinced yourself that you could get just as good or better results on SM, and switched. But SM is what, 4 or 5 years old now? 5G? I think that DMSI was too much for your subconscious to resist, so it convinced you to use something it could resist. At first you were getting DMSI bloom, and now you're done with that and getting this.

I didn't say anything because I wanted to see how this would play out, but I was expecting this.

SM requires a calibrated man. You get some of that calibration by using it directly after AM or AM refresher, or you can get it by using the program to completion. This is what happens when you're not calibrated, and possibly resisting.

Going to SM after DMSI is just kidding yourself, in my opinion. That's like trying to go back to Windows 95 after using Windows 7 or later.

Shannon,

In which scenario would using SM makes sense? I guess that there are situations where it makes sense or else Windows 95 wouldn't be on the shelves anymore.

You know, for having being on DMSI for a year with not much results and by being currently on AM6, if AM6 succeeds in positively changing me, I'll be very tempted in taking the same path that Thor took...

Without knowing your answer, I can tell that SM is attractive to me because it is explicit about the traits and skills that it offers and I desire to acquire those. Also, another appeal to SM is that it is a program specifically designed for men. The AM6/SM3 persona is what I want to become. I see sex abundance as a side-effect to who I will become. Maybe that would be silly to go through a 1 year subliminal programs commitment only to get laid...

Maybe if after some time on DMSI, the user has resisted the script. What should this person do? Use DMSI one more year or attempt the SM path?

OTOH DMSI is more opaque on how it delivers its magic and I am not too sure exactly what traits/skills that I am getting with DMSI... Reality Bending is amazing and incredible but it isn't my behavior that is responsible for the result.

Maybe that I am a fool but what I am looking to achieve with your products is to improve my behavior...
Hi Shannon i have had a bit of a break last few weeks of dmsi should i try it again until 3.3 is released since we have more than 35 days away before 3.3 is released could do another week or 2 of dmsi 3.2 see if anything has changed after the break?
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