(07-12-2018, 08:58 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]PUA tactics work when you're starting out. It did for me, and it has done for many. They're a clumsy and incongruent way to either fake attributes of someone who is high value and worth sleeping with and/or exploit the psychological foibles of insecure women. It's not sustainable as a way of life - mystery himself, last I heard, was a basket case.
It won't deal with the fundamental underlying issue of why you don't attract women by being who you are, if that's not important then go for it.
Whether it's smart or not to bang on about PUA while on DMSI well....
Last time, I went at a car dealer to buy a car, I am sure that the seller did use selling tactics on me. He was skilled. I had a great buying experience and I decided to buy the car from him.
I wanted to buy a car. The only remaining detail to determine was to who I was going to buy it.
This story can be a template, just replace the subject for a woman and the desire from car to sex. and you have the same happy story.
Sure the seller must be confident and likable and tactics alone wouldn't be enough. I would probably haven't closed the deal with an incompetent but likable and confident seller neither.
We still come back to 2 fundamentals:
Who you are
What you do
Also keep in mind, that doing PUA shift your mindset. When I go in flirt mode, I become playful. I want to do naughty and funny mischief with the girls because I want to have fun with them. This is attractive. This might be what happens to Sarge...
(07-12-2018, 09:03 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (07-12-2018, 08:51 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-12-2018, 05:10 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously,Tbh I find Sarge kinda interesting dude...
Cause he has different set of beliefs than many of us here and we think that those beliefs are toxic for him to get laid or in his career yet he is getting laid and making good sales/money from time to time....
I always counted him as an exception...If Sarge thinks that PUA works for him then it works for him..He believes in it..
Main thing is that he is getting laid and u guys should be happy..After all thats what we all want for Sarge..
All kinds of Possibilities exist in this Universe ..Sarge is One of them..lol..I am serious Btw xD
Zane don't get me wrong I am happy that Sarge is getting laid now and he deserves to get laid as he has really worked hard and committed himself to becoming the man he wants to become. I just have a hard time him not understanding as to why he is getting laid. Its like I am trying to explain as to why he is getting laid. He seems to find away around anything I tell him. It's almost like me banging my head against a brick wall.
Thor, provide proof to back up your claims. do you have a video of me interacting with girls while not using pua tactics? No? Then shut up.
Additionally, do you have a video of me being myself and sleeping with a girl I never used pua tactics on? No? Then shut up.
Sarge I am afraid you can't see the wood for the trees. Whatever argument I present to you all i get back from you is a logical fallacy.
(07-12-2018, 09:30 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-12-2018, 09:03 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (07-12-2018, 08:51 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-12-2018, 05:10 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously,Tbh I find Sarge kinda interesting dude...
Cause he has different set of beliefs than many of us here and we think that those beliefs are toxic for him to get laid or in his career yet he is getting laid and making good sales/money from time to time....
I always counted him as an exception...If Sarge thinks that PUA works for him then it works for him..He believes in it..
Main thing is that he is getting laid and u guys should be happy..After all thats what we all want for Sarge..
All kinds of Possibilities exist in this Universe ..Sarge is One of them..lol..I am serious Btw xD
Zane don't get me wrong I am happy that Sarge is getting laid now and he deserves to get laid as he has really worked hard and committed himself to becoming the man he wants to become. I just have a hard time him not understanding as to why he is getting laid. Its like I am trying to explain as to why he is getting laid. He seems to find away around anything I tell him. It's almost like me banging my head against a brick wall.
Thor, provide proof to back up your claims. do you have a video of me interacting with girls while not using pua tactics? No? Then shut up.
Additionally, do you have a video of me being myself and sleeping with a girl I never used pua tactics on? No? Then shut up.
Sarge I am afraid you can't see the wood for the trees. Whatever argument I present to you all i get back from you is a logical fallacy.
It’s not logical fallacy Shannon lol it’s calling you out. You have no proof for your claims.
Guys, can you please take this highly philosophical discussion elsewhere? Like ... the
Chatter Box? This thread is really not the place for this nonsense.
This is why the forum is getting wearisome. You guys argue like a bunch of high schoolers and I’m pretty sure none of y’all still in high school. You guys need to take this to the chatter box and y’all can duke it out there.
Let’s talk DSMI, 6G, B17, focusfires and other topics more conducive to coversation
Let's all list reasons why Shannon is awesome:
He is very insightful.
He is always here to answer our questions.
He is a master at what he does.
He is always improving his craft to the best of his ability.
He has enough patience to answer dumb questions, over and over again.
He does not use over the top sales tactics and marketing which I appreciate alot.
He let's the results of his products speak for themselves....
Come on guys ..Dont argue. Just observe..Why bother Explaining stuff..You guys need to be flexible..
We all are in different reality...You will find different types of guys with different beliefs getting laid and u will be surprised and pissed at same time...
At last I will say this
I have seen that Thor has grown alot ever since he's been on DMSI and I have seen Sarge getting laid. Keep it up both of u.
Execute DMSI and Make Shannon Proud ..Use whatever method what works for ya...Just get results.
(07-12-2018, 09:51 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]This is why the forum is getting wearisome. You guys argue like a bunch of high schoolers and I’m pretty sure none of y’all still in high school. You guys need to take this to the chatter box and y’all can duke it out there.
Let’s talk DSMI, 6G, B17, focusfires and other topics more conducive to coversation
How about we make a Telegram Group? Wont that be Awesome. Shannon..Ben What do u say?
Ah, more arguments, this means DMSI 3.3 is close
Let’s discuss the likely focusfires that are on the horizon: US/LM or US/UM. Which one do you think would be better? I could go either way tbh.
My vote would go to US/LM, as I've used this 4g combo in the past with success. I'm really excited at the prospect what this would bring about with the addition of 5.5/almost-6g tech.
Also LM itself is making me all kinds of giddy. Never underestimate the power of probability manipulation!
I guess Shannon's going to use his models to see which would perform better/sell better and then go with that option, though. Or perhaps both, who knows.
As long as Procrastination and the fear associated with this and with doing things until the very last minute are dealt with, then im open to all and any sub suggestions.
For some reason, whilst reading the previous days posts, this came into my mind so sharing it with you all to liven the mood up more, enjoy....
(07-12-2018, 03:21 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]As long as Procrastination and the fear associated with this and with doing things until the very last minute are dealt with, then im open to all and any sub suggestions.
Procrastination kills more human potentiality than two world wars