Subliminal Talk

Day 25 - DMSI A 7 loops

Had some dreams but I have no recollection of what they were. Been out and about in the city today, shopping being social as always, grabbed a coffee in the coffee shop sat down and chilled. Not noticed any women taking an interest in me or wanting making advances on me.

To a certain degree I feel I have lost interest in women even though I think about sex alot more. I find myself thinking why should I make the move on them. Let them make the first move. Then I will do the rest.

Interesting updates on AMS 7. I would like to see elements of SM/WM incorporated into the final product if possible.

(06-20-2018, 04:16 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-20-2018, 04:07 AM)Adrien Silva Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon will a 6g 6 module program still be 6 months?

A six stage set is, so far, designed to be used 32 days per stage. I don't yet know if that will change in 6G because I haven't finished developing 6G yet.

I recall him saying that he may get programs like BAMM down to only 3-4 stages once it is made in 6G.

Like Shannon said this wil be impossible to know until Shannon finishes developing 6G.

@Shannon

Its been 4 weeks on A, so far and I was going to continue doing 3 loops of A for a few more weeks and then switch to B, as this whole time on DMSI I have not been around a lot of people, especially women.

July 15th I am going to the US to do a 4 week course and I will be around more people (Women), socialising, going out..a hell of a lot more, so thinking of switching to B to see how it is.

I went to the supermarket the other day and I got plenty of IOI, multiple double take head turns from women, and I felt like women where really aware of my presence...even guys, I noticed a few guys turn there heads to take notice of me...when I noticed them checking me out, they looked away pretty quickly lol, they looked heterosexual though.

I had a few hypnotised stares when I looked into a few women's eyes.

I had a moment with a girl where you are walking towards each other and you know when you turn to go one way and they go the same way and then you turn the other way and they go that way to, so you keep walking into each other, it happened with her about 4 sides lol, she was really short so her eye level was starring at my chest, we both laughed but she never looked up and made eye contact. I didn't noticed her before that walking towards me but she obviously must of noticed me.

As I said, I have not been out hardly never, I have just got out of a sling now and building myself back up, I have plans to improve my social life as a side effect of improving other areas, for example I will be going back to college this September and from this plan to go do a 4 year degree September 2019. Unfortunately I will have to switch to MLS, at some point, as getting into University next year, is important for my life goals.

But yeah what you think, stay on A for a few more weeks and then switch to B, or just stay on A?

Thanks man.

(06-20-2018, 07:24 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

Its been 4 weeks on A, so far and I was going to continue doing 3 loops of A for a few more weeks and then switch to B, as this whole time on DMSI I have not been around a lot of people, especially women.

July 15th I am going to the US to do a 4 week course and I will be around more people (Women), socialising, going out..a hell of a lot more, so thinking of switching to B to see how it is.

I went to the supermarket the other day and I got plenty of IOI, multiple double take head turns from women, and I felt like women where really aware of my presence...even guys, I noticed a few guys turn there heads to take notice of me...when I noticed them checking me out, they looked away pretty quickly lol, they looked heterosexual though.

I had a few hypnotised stares when I looked into a few women's eyes.

I had a moment with a girl where you are walking towards each other and you know when you turn to go one way and they go the same way and then you turn the other way and they go that way to, so you keep walking into each other, it happened with her about 4 sides lol, she was really short so her eye level was starring at my chest, we both laughed but she never looked up and made eye contact. I didn't noticed her before that walking towards me but she obviously must of noticed me.

As I said, I have not been out hardly never, I have just got out of a sling now and building myself back up, I have plans to improve my social life as a side effect of improving other areas, for example I will be going back to college this September and from this plan to go do a 4 year degree September 2019. Unfortunately I will have to switch to MLS, at some point, as getting into University next year, is important for my life goals.

But yeah what you think, stay on A for a few more weeks and then switch to B, or just stay on A?

Thanks man.

Well, that will depend on how much you need the H&C of A. I don't know that based on what you say here, so I really can't advise.

More than anything else, I think you might find it interesting to try to increase your loops. I have been quite intrigued as to the results people are getting with 5 to 7 loops.

(06-20-2018, 11:10 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-20-2018, 07:24 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

Its been 4 weeks on A, so far and I was going to continue doing 3 loops of A for a few more weeks and then switch to B, as this whole time on DMSI I have not been around a lot of people, especially women.

July 15th I am going to the US to do a 4 week course and I will be around more people (Women), socialising, going out..a hell of a lot more, so thinking of switching to B to see how it is.

I went to the supermarket the other day and I got plenty of IOI, multiple double take head turns from women, and I felt like women where really aware of my presence...even guys, I noticed a few guys turn there heads to take notice of me...when I noticed them checking me out, they looked away pretty quickly lol, they looked heterosexual though.

I had a few hypnotised stares when I looked into a few women's eyes.

I had a moment with a girl where you are walking towards each other and you know when you turn to go one way and they go the same way and then you turn the other way and they go that way to, so you keep walking into each other, it happened with her about 4 sides lol, she was really short so her eye level was starring at my chest, we both laughed but she never looked up and made eye contact. I didn't noticed her before that walking towards me but she obviously must of noticed me.

As I said, I have not been out hardly never, I have just got out of a sling now and building myself back up, I have plans to improve my social life as a side effect of improving other areas, for example I will be going back to college this September and from this plan to go do a 4 year degree September 2019. Unfortunately I will have to switch to MLS, at some point, as getting into University next year, is important for my life goals.

But yeah what you think, stay on A for a few more weeks and then switch to B, or just stay on A?

Thanks man.

Well, that will depend on how much you need the H&C of A. I don't know that based on what you say here, so I really can't advise.

More than anything else, I think you might find it interesting to try to increase your loops. I have been quite intrigued as to the results people are getting with 5 to 7 loops.

Ok, I will do 2 rounds of A at 7 loops a night.

(06-20-2018, 11:10 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-20-2018, 07:24 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

Its been 4 weeks on A, so far and I was going to continue doing 3 loops of A for a few more weeks and then switch to B, as this whole time on DMSI I have not been around a lot of people, especially women.

July 15th I am going to the US to do a 4 week course and I will be around more people (Women), socialising, going out..a hell of a lot more, so thinking of switching to B to see how it is.

I went to the supermarket the other day and I got plenty of IOI, multiple double take head turns from women, and I felt like women where really aware of my presence...even guys, I noticed a few guys turn there heads to take notice of me...when I noticed them checking me out, they looked away pretty quickly lol, they looked heterosexual though.

I had a few hypnotised stares when I looked into a few women's eyes.

I had a moment with a girl where you are walking towards each other and you know when you turn to go one way and they go the same way and then you turn the other way and they go that way to, so you keep walking into each other, it happened with her about 4 sides lol, she was really short so her eye level was starring at my chest, we both laughed but she never looked up and made eye contact. I didn't noticed her before that walking towards me but she obviously must of noticed me.

As I said, I have not been out hardly never, I have just got out of a sling now and building myself back up, I have plans to improve my social life as a side effect of improving other areas, for example I will be going back to college this September and from this plan to go do a 4 year degree September 2019. Unfortunately I will have to switch to MLS, at some point, as getting into University next year, is important for my life goals.

But yeah what you think, stay on A for a few more weeks and then switch to B, or just stay on A?

Thanks man.

Well, that will depend on how much you need the H&C of A. I don't know that based on what you say here, so I really can't advise.

More than anything else, I think you might find it interesting to try to increase your loops. I have been quite intrigued as to the results people are getting with 5 to 7 loops.

hi Shannon,
likewise, I had started with 3.1 A and did that until 3.2B came out. about 6 weeks ago, I switched to 3.2A after the break and I started to feel what I can describe as depression almost the whole time.
after 6 weeks, last sunday it suddenly occured to me that it might be the 3.2A that's causing the depression, so I switched to B this monday. and I started to feel better, like a day and night difference.

should I take this sudden ephiphany as "enough H&C done and I could go back to side B", or should I keep at side A until I feel good like I do at side B and maybe increase the number of loops to 5 or 7 as suggested?

thanks a lot for your insight.

(06-19-2018, 11:27 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]What you are describing is based on something that should be solved by the module I am working on now in Beast 17. Thanks for reporting, though. That is helpful.

So that makes me wonder will this be the first of the two keys to resistance you mentioned that might be in 3.3? Also, will any new tech be added to the new custom you will be evetually releasing? Have you been filing in the leaks/loopholes ,that have been taken advantage of in 3.2, in the custom sub? I ask these questions cause I might consider running whatever it might be if there is a long wait between the finish of the custom and the completion of 3.3.

Unfortunely, because of what you mentioned earlier I'm not sure if 3.2 is going to do anymore for me at the moment. Because of this IDGAF loophole and nihilism response its like the aura part of the script won't even activate. I have tried multiple times and its like this thing just comes up in my mind where I don't care or the hotness of a woman has no appeal to me whatsoever. Either way, if the custom has some new tech or stuff that deals with some of these newely revealed loopholes then I might consider running that.. or if not might anyway for the fact it might not produce as much resistance as 3.2 did.

(06-20-2018, 05:47 PM)alphabeta35 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-20-2018, 11:10 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-20-2018, 07:24 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

Its been 4 weeks on A, so far and I was going to continue doing 3 loops of A for a few more weeks and then switch to B, as this whole time on DMSI I have not been around a lot of people, especially women.

July 15th I am going to the US to do a 4 week course and I will be around more people (Women), socialising, going out..a hell of a lot more, so thinking of switching to B to see how it is.

I went to the supermarket the other day and I got plenty of IOI, multiple double take head turns from women, and I felt like women where really aware of my presence...even guys, I noticed a few guys turn there heads to take notice of me...when I noticed them checking me out, they looked away pretty quickly lol, they looked heterosexual though.

I had a few hypnotised stares when I looked into a few women's eyes.

I had a moment with a girl where you are walking towards each other and you know when you turn to go one way and they go the same way and then you turn the other way and they go that way to, so you keep walking into each other, it happened with her about 4 sides lol, she was really short so her eye level was starring at my chest, we both laughed but she never looked up and made eye contact. I didn't noticed her before that walking towards me but she obviously must of noticed me.

As I said, I have not been out hardly never, I have just got out of a sling now and building myself back up, I have plans to improve my social life as a side effect of improving other areas, for example I will be going back to college this September and from this plan to go do a 4 year degree September 2019. Unfortunately I will have to switch to MLS, at some point, as getting into University next year, is important for my life goals.

But yeah what you think, stay on A for a few more weeks and then switch to B, or just stay on A?

Thanks man.

Well, that will depend on how much you need the H&C of A. I don't know that based on what you say here, so I really can't advise.

More than anything else, I think you might find it interesting to try to increase your loops. I have been quite intrigued as to the results people are getting with 5 to 7 loops.

hi Shannon,
likewise, I had started with 3.1 A and did that until 3.2B came out. about 6 weeks ago, I switched to 3.2A after the break and I started to feel what I can describe as depression almost the whole time.
after 6 weeks, last sunday it suddenly occured to me that it might be the 3.2A that's causing the depression, so I switched to B this monday. and I started to feel better, like a day and night difference.

should I take this sudden ephiphany as "enough H&C done and I could go back to side B", or should I keep at side A until I feel good like I do at side B and maybe increase the number of loops to 5 or 7 as suggested?

thanks a lot for your insight.

I would go with the latter option, in bold, if I were you. Increasing loops optional.

(06-21-2018, 12:33 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-19-2018, 11:27 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]What you are describing is based on something that should be solved by the module I am working on now in Beast 17. Thanks for reporting, though. That is helpful.

So that makes me wonder will this be the first of the two keys to resistance you mentioned that might be in 3.3?

I'm going to have the first key in place. That's done being developed, as it was a case of moving script around to the appropriate places in the script to adjust what the interpretation was and what it could affect. The second key is still slowly being developed, and may or may not make it into 3.3 in time.

Quote: Also, will any new tech be added to the new custom you will be eventually releasing?

Possibly, depends on the patience of the customer.

Quote:Have you been filing in the leaks/loopholes ,that have been taken advantage of in 3.2, in the custom sub?

I have been building the sub that was designed. Taking notes on the loopholes. It takes a lot of time and specific effort to generate the scripting used to plug those holes, and my customer has been waiting a disproportionate amount of time for the project to even begin. That means it is unlikely that they're going to want to wait for me to try to plug those holes in DMSI when everything else is done, but I will offer them that opportunity when the time comes.

Quote:I ask these questions cause I might consider running whatever it might be if there is a long wait between the finish of the custom and the completion of 3.3.

Unfortunely, because of what you mentioned earlier I'm not sure if 3.2 is going to do anymore for me at the moment. Because of this IDGAF loophole and nihilism response its like the aura part of the script won't even activate. I have tried multiple times and its like this thing just comes up in my mind where I don't care or the hotness of a woman has no appeal to me whatsoever. Either way, if the custom has some new tech or stuff that deals with some of these newely revealed loopholes then I might consider running that.. or if not might anyway for the fact it might not produce as much resistance as 3.2 did.

The custom will likely not be released right away anyway.

(06-21-2018, 07:29 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon do you believe an ascendant alpha is an alpha who is enlightened? Can you be enlightened but not alpha?

Alpha has nothing to do with enlightenment, but if youre enlightened you will be an alpha by default

So.. 2 days of 7 loops of A and I feel like I have had enough lol. I went out to get some food at the super market and I actually noticed less IOI than before which made me feel like all this is silly looking to see if DMSI is doing anything, felt like looking for validation and I do not want to be that guy.

I feel moments of dizziness during the day from doing 2 nights of 7 loops.

After the first night of 7 loops, I felt quite a lot of guilt during the day with certain memories of how I acted with my ex girlfriend and when I went to bed that night I felt it even more and I felt like a bad person and felt like I wanted to make things right...but I realised I can't.

Today I felt like I am not "muscular enough" and it made me think why do I have to be more muscular to feel good about my self! Why!?? If women only find me more attractive because I am more muscular... then I don't even want to be apart of that fucked of game...which society has programmed into me and others. I hate it.

Today after getting my food, I felt like giving up, I just want to get completely off the topic of women and focus on myself. I want to just focus on what I want out of life that is not related to women. I felt relief in that.

Right now I feel dizzy. I am thinking about just letting it bloom and move on.

I feel silly for even thinking this will even make a difference, as if women will magically seduce me. I believe the reason 3.1 was good was because it had "Meet them half way", I felt that it made a lot of difference. Waiting to be seduced 100% seems kinda needy and very passive, I know others will disagree as it is not what DMSI is about, but I feel DMSI is programming that mindset into me and it don't feel productive on the seduction side.

For example... these attractive women I got IOI from, imagine if the programming was 100% for us to take action, and seduce them! I am sure we would have more results by now, because we can then take 100% responsibility. When the ball is in there court we can't take 100% responsibility because we can't control other people, we just have to wait.

I know this is not what DMSI is about, I just don't like the ball being in the other persons court, it feels too passive for me for some reason, I don't like it.

Resistance rant over.

So Shannon, just talking specifically about the anti-resistance tech and measures that will be in place in "DMSI final", will there any upgrades between the "3.x final" and 4.x line?

Pretty much, if the "final" version for the 3.x line doesn't work for someone, is there any chance the 4.x line would? And for those people are you still going to charge them?

I've had some dreams since being on 3.2A like the ones other members posted about a few pages earlier, but that's it. No noticeable depression. Maybe playing video games more (while still being productive, but not max productive). I just don't want to have invested so much time into this program and not get the results.

(06-22-2018, 09:35 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-21-2018, 10:04 PM)Nox Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-21-2018, 07:29 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon do you believe an ascendant alpha is an alpha who is enlightened? Can you be enlightened but not alpha?

Alpha has nothing to do with enlightenment, but if youre enlightened you will be an alpha by default

Are you sure? eckhart tolle seems pretty meek. Isn't enlightenment only half the picture?

He isnt enlightened is the issue

And you're right, enlightenment is technically only half of the total package.