(04-20-2018, 03:07 PM)findingme Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
It appears you've put some AM pieces in DMSI, such as the IDGAF attitude, high value thinking, and killing procrastination.
There are no pieces of AM in DMSI. Completely different script. Just because they happen to overlap on what they do does not mean I seeded one into the other.
Quote:Did you put the decisiveness piece in 3.2 or any previous version? I'm not stressing for it, but I fumbled in making quick decisions twice today with my ex-Marine very alpha boss, and I've been thinking on it. I'll be starting DMSI soon, and that would be an excellent add-on to look forward to.
Decisiveness is in DMSI as an OE effect. I will look at making it a direct effect, if the models say it will be useful.
(04-20-2018, 04:34 PM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]Will the end product of DMSI be 6G or will it remain as 5.5G?
I haven't decided yet, it will depend on the timing of other things. 3.4 is going to be final for the 3.x branch of DMSI regardless. It is at current very unlikely that I will be willing to go beyond 3.4, since I am pretty sick of working on DMSI at this point as it is.
Hi Shannon,
The more I have been thinking about it lately the more I've been realizing that deep down I don't actually want to have sex (whether it's from fear of it or just disinterest idk), on the surface and on the outside I absolutely do but my mind is mainly focused on business, getting into shape, improving health, appearance, etc (which I have definitely noticed improvement in all of the above since TID for 3.2). Lately whenever I've had the chance to go to a social venues like a club and I've dreaded the thought of going everytime whereas before DMSI and up until early 3.0 usage I used to go out 2-3x a week.
I don't know what this is but I find it very annoying should I just wait until interest comes back or just force myself to go?
Is there barging physically I can do to move this along?
And i don't know or understand why it would be fear or anxiety in relation to sex or a relationship since I've had sex a number of times before, and I had a fwb for like 5-6 months during 3.1 usage.
(04-21-2018, 08:17 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (04-20-2018, 04:34 PM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]Will the end product of DMSI be 6G or will it remain as 5.5G?
I haven't decided yet, it will depend on the timing of other things. 3.4 is going to be final for the 3.x branch of DMSI regardless. It is at current very unlikely that I will be willing to go beyond 3.4, since I am pretty sick of working on DMSI at this point as it is.
I know ASC will be the first 6G program but I recall Shannon saying that 3.4 might be the first 6G sub yet all of this is contingent on many factors as Shannon said.
I’m frankly looking forward to the new focus fire subs Shannon makes
I've also noticed that I've been emitting a stronger odor similar to that I was emitting on 3.1 but stronger.
I would describe it as a dirty type of musk definitely not very enjoyable. Could this be reversal resistance or are you trying to tell me that there are women that will actually find this smell enjoyable?
(04-21-2018, 08:35 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon,
The more I have been thinking about it lately the more I've been realizing that deep down I don't actually want to have sex (whether it's from fear of it or just disinterest idk), on the surface and on the outside I absolutely do but my mind is mainly focused on business, getting into shape, improving health, appearance, etc (which I have definitely noticed improvement in all of the above since TID for 3.2). Lately whenever I've had the chance to go to a social venues like a club and I've dreaded the thought of going everytime whereas before DMSI and up until early 3.0 usage I used to go out 2-3x a week.
I don't know what this is but I find it very annoying should I just wait until interest comes back or just force myself to go?
Is there barging physically I can do to move this along?
And i don't know or understand why it would be fear or anxiety in relation to sex or a relationship since I've had sex a number of times before, and I had a fwb for like 5-6 months during 3.1 usage.
My question is, is that really what you are naturally focused on subconsciously, or is that what your subconscious wants to focus on as an escape from executing DMSI and achieving it's goals?
What you have to realize is that the subconscious is largely emotional and irrational in its thinking, which is why standard hypnosis scripting usually doesn't work well for subliminals (for example) because hypnosis relies on the conscious mind to translate for the subconscious mind in order to work. The reason my subs work so well is that I have spent all this time learning how this irrational part of our awareness thinks and communicates and re-learning to "speak English" in the way it understands. The same language (American English) is understood in two very different ways by the conscious and subconscious minds, which is why we frequently end up needing to use tools like hypnosis, NLP and subliminals to change what our subconscious has accepted as being true and "runs as programming". The subconscious awareness (or some part[s] of it) also percieve time and reality very differently than the conscious mind does.
This means that the "reasons" that the subconscious may resist may be completely unexpected and unexplainable from a purely conscious point of view, which is what the conscious mind has to go on. For example, the conscious mind perceives time as a "point of now",. whereas my experiments consistently show that the subconscious perceives it as a smear, which encompasses several minutes (at least) into what the conscious mind perceives as being "the future". The subconscious also may have parts that experience reality as if they are still a different, younger age than the conscious mind experiences. You may have experienced a seriously traumatic event at 13, and that apparently can create a "snapshot" of yourself subconsciously that retains awareness at that level of understanding and maturity until it is healed. That part of you may object because of (irrational and currently potentially completely irrelevant) fear for your (it's) safety. Fear is not rational or logical. No emotion is. And the subconscious seems to largely (if not completely) rely on emotional awareness for its ability to think and it's brand of logic.
So fear of sex itself may not be your reason for resisting. Fear of women may not. Maybe you fear getting a bad reputation. Maybe you fear having an inappropriate woman respond, and her husband trying to come after you. Maybe you fear contracting an STD, or creating a pregnancy. Maybe you fear being rejected while having sex. The potential explanations are endless.
They don't all have to make sense, be logical or be anything that has any bearing whatsoever on reality! But they do matter to the objecting part of your subconscious, and that part is usually not logical in the way the conscious mind is. Since we are acting to use subliminals based on conscious choices and conscious scripting methods, the only way forward is to understand the difference between the conscious and subconscious minds, and work in the ways that the subconscious understands.
That is why I had to create my predictive models, and why it is taking so long for me to make progress to achieving all of my goals. Conversely, that is why I am making progress that is triggering more and more resistance, and why my subs are becoming more and more powerful and (when not resisted) successful.
(04-21-2018, 08:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (04-20-2018, 10:28 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
Why have you suggested to Catman to do 7loops of DMSI? Is that one of initial options the models suggested?
The models returned the value of 7 loops for CatMan to achieve significant success. The fact that he found an excuse to only do 1 loop tells me that he knows that would have worked, so he escaped in what way he could. Which really doesn't surprise me, since I predicted that some of you guys would do exactly that sort of thing in response to 3.2 and later, on this very forum, before releasing 3.2. I even told you guys that the excuses would end up being very logical, creative, well thought out and believable. But they are still excuses.
Shannon, I think a resistance excuse happened to me as well.It was extremely logical. Please provide some input.
When I started 3.2 I did B for a whole month until A came out. During B use few female interest showed up but things didn’t seem to progress so I decided to do A.
When I switched to A within 2days only I felt really tired so I blamed version A for this (but now thinking about it I think it was my ridiculous sleeping cycle that was changing constantly that caused tiredness) anyways after 2days I went back to B for few days then I kept feeling tired and brain fog basically I couldn’t think clearly. And then boom I had extreme urge to smoke weed. So I decided to smoke some weed.
I started smoking weed (lightly only) and it really seemed as I was releasing resistance by smoking weed. My brain and thinking got very clear, My sleep routine got fixed (didn’t have a sleeping routine for few years!) and I started to do goal list and journaling! I also started to approach girls with purpose.
For a week now I have been using A. And still smoking weed. But as I am writing this I am deciding to not use weed again because it may be a clever resistance that got me to believe it was helping me.
What do you think? This was a real confusing situation. Becuase it seemed like weed was helping me to execute DMSI and release resistance (the sleep cycle got fixed...tiredness gone... clear mind...etc)
But maybe just maybe this was an extreme clever resistance from my subconscious mind.
Note all this was with 1loop per day and some missing days in between.
(04-21-2018, 08:37 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2018, 08:17 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (04-20-2018, 04:34 PM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]Will the end product of DMSI be 6G or will it remain as 5.5G?
I haven't decided yet, it will depend on the timing of other things. 3.4 is going to be final for the 3.x branch of DMSI regardless. It is at current very unlikely that I will be willing to go beyond 3.4, since I am pretty sick of working on DMSI at this point as it is.
I know ASC will be the first 6G program but I recall Shannon saying that 3.4 might be the first 6G sub yet all of this is contingent on many factors as Shannon said.
I’m frankly looking forward to the new focus fire subs Shannon makes
The first 6G will be ASC. The second will be the costom that is contracted for, which will be made available to the public after it is delivered. I believe it will be popular with a lot of you based on its design goal. The third may be DMSI 3.4, but it is more likely that 3.4 will be released in late 5.5G, since 6G will require that I finish achieving design spec with Beast, and then spend considerable time mining the technology modules out of it and translating them to work in the (very different) 5.5/6G skeleton script. I am using the 5.5/6G skeleton script as an opportunity to correct whatever mistakes were made during the development process of Beast, and optimize what I can otherwise, instead of just copy and paste.
If 3.4 is built in 5.5G and I make enough progress in the future with 6G, I may at some point build a 6G DMSI as the 4.0 release, but that's not exactly certain, since as I said, kind of sick of this program at this point. It is serving its purpose in developing the skeleton script, but it's also a taxing, frustrating, annoying and painful job at this point. If I wasn't shaving my head every other day, I'd probably have gone bald from pulling out my hair in response to DMSI by now.
That said... there is only do or not to. If I "not do" I fail. I am unwilling to fail, so I keep doing. But eventually whether or not I can or do achieve the goals of DMSI, I will have to stop working on it and develop 6G from Beast Final.
Worst case scenario, 6G comes out, and I can make DMSI better from it, and I build 4.0 eventually. But I will have to de-compress from the building of DMSI for a while after 3.4 if that is the case.
(04-21-2018, 08:40 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]I've also noticed that I've been emitting a stronger odor similar to that I was emitting on 3.1 but stronger.
I would describe it as a dirty type of musk definitely not very enjoyable. Could this be reversal resistance or are you trying to tell me that there are women that will actually find this smell enjoyable?
Did you know that pheromones are chemical communication signals to the brain? And that they are perceived differently according to the gender and age of the person experiencing them?
For example, when I have the sexual scent of my girlfriend on my face, I perceive it as smelling like the ocean, with a light, faint, very pleasant and very erotic musk. She will not kiss me when I have it on my face, because to her it smells like a strong negative body odor.
The reason for this is, it is a signal to the male brain (mine) saying, "I am suitable for and ready for sex and reproduction, and you should fuck me." But to the female brain of a heterosexual woman, this very same signals says, "I am competition, (and in her case of smelling herself) I am too close to you genetically, and you need to avoid me, so perceive me as being unpleasant."
Same signal, two completely different responses and perceptions.
Your pheromone signature is not supposed to smell good and attractive to you, it's supposed to smell good and attractive to those females you want to have sex with. And it will.
(04-21-2018, 09:14 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2018, 08:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (04-20-2018, 10:28 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
Why have you suggested to Catman to do 7loops of DMSI? Is that one of initial options the models suggested?
The models returned the value of 7 loops for CatMan to achieve significant success. The fact that he found an excuse to only do 1 loop tells me that he knows that would have worked, so he escaped in what way he could. Which really doesn't surprise me, since I predicted that some of you guys would do exactly that sort of thing in response to 3.2 and later, on this very forum, before releasing 3.2. I even told you guys that the excuses would end up being very logical, creative, well thought out and believable. But they are still excuses.
Shannon, I think a resistance excuse happened to me as well.It was extremely logical. Please provide some input.
When I started 3.2 I did B for a whole month until A came out. During B use few female interest showed up but things didn’t seem to progress so I decided to do A.
When I switched to A within 2days only I felt really tired so I blamed version A for this (but now thinking about it I think it was my ridiculous sleeping cycle that was changing constantly that caused tiredness) anyways after 2days I went back to B for few days then I kept feeling tired and brain fog basically I couldn’t think clearly. And then boom I had extreme urge to smoke weed. So I decided to smoke some weed.
I started smoking weed (lightly only) and it really seemed as I was releasing resistance by smoking weed. My brain and thinking got very clear, My sleep routine got fixed (didn’t have a sleeping routine for few years!) and I started to do goal list and journaling! I also started to approach girls with purpose.
For a week now I have been using A. And still smoking weed. But as I am writing this I am deciding to not use weed again because it may be a clever resistance that got me to believe it was helping me.
What do you think? This was a real confusing situation. Becuase it seemed like weed was helping me to execute DMSI and release resistance (the sleep cycle got fixed...tiredness gone... clear mind...etc)
But maybe just maybe this was an extreme clever resistance from my subconscious mind.
Note all this was with 1loop per day and some missing days in between.
Here's what we know.
B side did not trigger any issues with sleep and brain fog. A side apparently did. This suggests that something in A side triggered a form of resistance, which was one of the following three things:
1. It was your resistant subconscious attempting to thwart your cooperative subconscious, and resulting in exhaustion.
2. It was some part of your subconscious attempting to trigger brain fog and tiredness to give you conscious incentive to stop using what it didn't like.
3. 1 and 2.
Now we have you deciding to smoke weed also. There are only the following reasons why people smoke weed:
A) It allows them to fit in socially with others whom they value the company of, which they believe they need to be good enough, and which is perceived as only being accessible if they also smoke weed.
B) They are attempting to self medicate and/or escape some sort of emotional and/or mental pain, stress and/or fear.
C) they are using it medically to alleviate the physical issues of XYZ.
We know that weed is a strong state shifter. We know it derails DMSI. It seems unlikely that you would need weed for reason C; it seems unlikely that you would be choosing to suddenly use weed for reason A; and this leaves us with reason B. Which boils down to an attempt to escape from and/or derail DMSI out of fear.
Seems pretty clear to me what it is, based on what information I have to go by.
(04-21-2018, 09:34 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2018, 09:14 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-21-2018, 08:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (04-20-2018, 10:28 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
Why have you suggested to Catman to do 7loops of DMSI? Is that one of initial options the models suggested?
The models returned the value of 7 loops for CatMan to achieve significant success. The fact that he found an excuse to only do 1 loop tells me that he knows that would have worked, so he escaped in what way he could. Which really doesn't surprise me, since I predicted that some of you guys would do exactly that sort of thing in response to 3.2 and later, on this very forum, before releasing 3.2. I even told you guys that the excuses would end up being very logical, creative, well thought out and believable. But they are still excuses.
Shannon, I think a resistance excuse happened to me as well.It was extremely logical. Please provide some input.
When I started 3.2 I did B for a whole month until A came out. During B use few female interest showed up but things didn’t seem to progress so I decided to do A.
When I switched to A within 2days only I felt really tired so I blamed version A for this (but now thinking about it I think it was my ridiculous sleeping cycle that was changing constantly that caused tiredness) anyways after 2days I went back to B for few days then I kept feeling tired and brain fog basically I couldn’t think clearly. And then boom I had extreme urge to smoke weed. So I decided to smoke some weed.
I started smoking weed (lightly only) and it really seemed as I was releasing resistance by smoking weed. My brain and thinking got very clear, My sleep routine got fixed (didn’t have a sleeping routine for few years!) and I started to do goal list and journaling! I also started to approach girls with purpose.
For a week now I have been using A. And still smoking weed. But as I am writing this I am deciding to not use weed again because it may be a clever resistance that got me to believe it was helping me.
What do you think? This was a real confusing situation. Becuase it seemed like weed was helping me to execute DMSI and release resistance (the sleep cycle got fixed...tiredness gone... clear mind...etc)
But maybe just maybe this was an extreme clever resistance from my subconscious mind.
Note all this was with 1loop per day and some missing days in between.
Here's what we know.
B side did not trigger any issues with sleep and brain fog. A side apparently did. This suggests that something in A side triggered a form of resistance, which was one of the following three things:
1. It was your resistant subconscious attempting to thwart your cooperative subconscious, and resulting in exhaustion.
2. It was some part of your subconscious attempting to trigger brain fog and tiredness to give you conscious incentive to stop using what it didn't like.
3. 1 and 2.
Now we have you deciding to smoke weed also. There are only the following reasons why people smoke weed:
A) It allows them to fit in socially with others whom they value the company of, which they believe they need to be good enough, and which is perceived as only being accessible if they also smoke weed.
B) They are attempting to self medicate and/or escape some sort of emotional and/or mental pain, stress and/or fear.
C) they are using it medically to alleviate the physical issues of XYZ.
We know that weed is a strong state shifter. We know it derails DMSI. It seems unlikely that you would need weed for reason C; it seems unlikely that you would be choosing to suddenly use weed for reason A; and this leaves us with reason B. Which boils down to an attempt to escape from and/or derail DMSI out of fear.
Seems pretty clear to me what it is, based on what information I have to go by.
Yes it’s very clear that it is B. Because I am a sigma type personality I really do not look for validation from others nor I have ever cared for it.
The weed got some things fixed up for me. That’s why I thought it was doing me a favor.
Thank you for your input. I’ll keep doing version A and see how things turn out. It seems like my subconscious is reaching a tip point of resistance like it looks for whatever there is to create resistance.
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Shannon , I was doing 2 loops of B for the last week and a half. Would you suggest that I try 2 loops for A as well?
(04-22-2018, 01:11 PM)Razib1988 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon , I was doing 2 loops of B for the last week and a half. Would you suggest that I try 2 loops for A as well?
I suggest following the directions.
