Subliminal Talk

@Shannon

Quickie: Is it possible to stonewall 3.2 at higher loops if one had executed at 1 loop?

Its early days, only 18 so far of me listening to 6 or 7 loops at night with my mobile phone to 3.2, however its also been 18days of masturbation, something I havent done in a long long time (years i feel) and with 3.2 at 1 loop with headphones, I as you know executed no fap immediately and stopped fapping for 56days until I stopped running 3.2 at that time due to travel/exams etc.

I know Thor listens to 7loops with headphones and after 30days saw execution take place so maybe im unable to get the same success.

wonder what you think.

thanks my friend.

(07-17-2018, 03:15 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-17-2018, 02:25 PM)jonathan4all Wrote: [ -> ]Howabout a focus fire sub on ultramotivation and overcoming procrastination together since those two were long due. Nothing beats a strong workethic afterall.

I like this idea of this program in addition to US/LM.

@Shannon in addition to these, would a LM focusfire be possible? Since Us/LM will be delayed, I can’t decide which one as a solo I would rather run.

(07-18-2018, 08:18 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-17-2018, 10:50 PM)dweller94 Wrote: [ -> ]This badboy LM/US combo, I’ve had dreams about me running this years ago and that it’ll be a major success for all, just putting this out there.

Well when I have time to make it instead of DMSI and the focus fires...

I think it would be worth the time to develop it. It would make quite a bit of money for you and would work well for us. Could work on it round robin style while you work on DSMI?

An Ultra Motivation/Overcome Procrastination sub would be amazing. Absolutely amazing in what it could do for people. I've long considered procrastination to be a silent killer of potential in life, robs people of so much opportunity and success, happiness.

Procrastination is something that at least for me, requires a lot of conscious overriding to try to keep at bay. I recognise it's a challenge, and more than that for others, debilitating.

I hope this gets made as a focus fire. A kind of program that can drastically change lives.

(07-18-2018, 08:20 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-17-2018, 11:23 PM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-17-2018, 02:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-17-2018, 10:13 AM)kornjacinvrac Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon i have been using 6 loops on masked with earbuds and something is happening, im on the second day i feel my emotions are getting stronger, courage is present and DMSI is pushing something, i mean... its doing its work. Also, inside me i feel a "i don't give a f" attitude which maybe is resistance or maybe i dont give a f anyways, or something i don't know. My question is, i hear my ears buzzing sometimes, for how long can i listen to 6 loops max? For one month, two three? What is the optimal time lenght you recommend?

By "buzzing" are you referring to tinnitus? Tinnitus is only possible if you are using the ultrasonic or hybrid track too loudly, or you are playing the masked tracks WAY the hell too loudly (heavy metal concert loudly) on speakers. If this is the case, all you need to do is adjust the volume downwards or switch to masked. I suggest that if you have ringing in your ears, it is most likely the ultrasonic being too loud, so just adjust it downwards a bit per day until that stops.

You can listen to it forever, as long as you're using it at a safe volume. I suggest you use it for (X-35) more days, where X is the date of release for DMSI 3.3.

I wasn't in either of this cases and I still got tinnitus from subliminals, so I doubt that it's the only possible way to get tinnitus.

I seriously doubt that. I would say you already had tinnitus and using the subliminals the way you did made it more obvious. But the masked tracks cannot give you tinnitus unless you use them at rock concert level volumes, because they are just like any other sound. Ultrasonic audio is known to trigger tinnitus, and it has to be used at lower volumes than masked to prevent that for some people.

Not sure if you remember Shannon, but I had the same experience with tinnitus before - on DMSI 3.1 I believe, which I heavily resisted. Actually since trying out MLS again with the new secondary A...something I have a slight tinnitus again. And I only listen to the hybrid at night at a very moderate volume - one that let's me easily fall asleep. Maybe it's a weird form of resistance...

(07-18-2018, 09:02 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]An Ultra Motivation/Overcome Procrastination sub would be amazing. Absolutely amazing in what it could do for people. I've long considered procrastination to be a silent killer of potential in life, robs people of so much opportunity and success, happiness.

Procrastination is something that at least for me, requires a lot of conscious overriding to try to keep at bay. I recognise it's a challenge, and more than that for others, debilitating.

I hope this gets made as a focus fire. A kind of program that can drastically change lives.

That indeed sounds even more tempting than UM alone. Would be awesome if these two could be combined. And very much agreed on the crippling effects on life!

(07-18-2018, 03:33 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon tomorow night is my last night on 3.2b masked for 7 loops before a day off and going back to 3.2a.

I was on 3.2a for atleast 2 plus months with no changes internally, but will give it another go at 7 loops hybrid and see if something does change.

You mean, no changes that you noticed consciously.

Quote:There is nothing i can do to get past whatever my subconscious is resisting to get something to change or work is there? Basically got to keep waiting until 3.2a brings things to surface so the script can start to execute?

The issue is that I am trying to communicate with a level of human awareness that does not communicate as the conscious mind does, or comprehend language as the conscious mind does. It's "logic" isn't, and I can't see, hear, smell, taste or touch it. Communicating with it in ways that work for the conscious mind to understand is challenging, so I am having to piece together what is what based on its responses, and even those change from person to person, belief system to belief system, age group to age group, gender to gender, culture to culture, etc. Therefore, truly understanding what is happening, and what is being resisted, and why, and how to correct it, is extraordinarily challenging. That we have gotten DMSI to be as effective as it is, is truly incredible if you think about it.

To get past your resistance, you have to understand what is being resisted and why, and then deal with the root cause in a way that causes it to stop being a cause of resistance. A side is designed to do that. So aside from running A side and trying to find the right loops/day, format and volume, I can only suggest that you try doing meditations that allow you to communicate with the parts of you that are resisting, in a way your conscious mind can comprehend and remember, and then with the understanding of what is being resisted and why, proceed to deal with those reasons in a way that causes them to stop being points of resistance.

Quote:Obviously being around so many attractive women and cant get any attention or even able to get them to talk to me for more than a minute or 2 when i do approach and talk to them only to watch many others have 10-15 minute chats with the same women easily can be frustrating.

Would i be best doing the hybrid track for 2 weeks before a break or should i try for a 2 week break before trying hybrid 3.2a to see if anything changes?

I suggest you choose between using A side immediately and seeking the right setup and usage patterns for yourself, or taking a week off, see what happens, and then doing that.

Quote:I dont know why my subconscious wants to resist something i want to work consciously.

Thanks.

The conscious and subconscious minds largely represent the mutually exclusive methods of thinking held by the rational vs the emotional minds/brains. They therefore frequently understand the same things in radically different ways, for radically different reasons, which often make no sense from one side to the other. When the subconscious wants X and the conscious mind wants -X, there is potential for resistance and deadlock until the two of them agree. The conscious mind may want -X because it is logically the best way forward to achieve success and happiness, and the subconscious mind may irrationally associate that very same thing with, for example, a threat to the person's life based on something that was experienced when the person was 2 years old that was understood as "a threat to my life" and associated with the -X, but really has no logical association or value as a credible threat to the person's life.

The issue boils down to mutually exclusive ways of thinking, understanding and comprehension between the conscious and subconscious awarenesses. My job appears to be to find a way to reconcile this.

(07-18-2018, 09:25 AM)hsindermann Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-18-2018, 09:02 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]An Ultra Motivation/Overcome Procrastination sub would be amazing. Absolutely amazing in what it could do for people. I've long considered procrastination to be a silent killer of potential in life, robs people of so much opportunity and success, happiness.

Procrastination is something that at least for me, requires a lot of conscious overriding to try to keep at bay. I recognise it's a challenge, and more than that for others, debilitating.

I hope this gets made as a focus fire. A kind of program that can drastically change lives.

That indeed sounds even more tempting than UM alone. Would be awesome if these two could be combined. And very much agreed on the crippling effects on life!

yeah this would be great, I would buy and run this instantly(after the 21 day break tho) here's to hoping

(07-18-2018, 08:39 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-18-2018, 08:17 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-17-2018, 03:15 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-17-2018, 02:25 PM)jonathan4all Wrote: [ -> ]Howabout a focus fire sub on ultramotivation and overcoming procrastination together since those two were long due. Nothing beats a strong workethic afterall.

I like this idea of this program in addition to US/LM.

That seems possible.

I would LOVE a Overcoming Procratination sub coupled with a ultra motivation sub together so if this is possible please @Shannon do this.

Can goal achieving, goal focus or something to do with hitting our daily goals be incorporated into this so that we do the daily tasks we need to to hit our goals please?

I came to this site due to my procrastination and fears of being lazy rather than a goal achiever and my journey and commitment continues.

@Shannon do you think would this sub work for me if 3.2 hasnt, with the 3.2 tech in it since ALL previous subs have not worked for me yet? thanks alot buddy!

You guys love to turn focus-fire subs into non-focus-fire subs.

I have no idea what it would do for you right now.

(07-18-2018, 08:41 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

Hope your well Man again thank you for your hard work and efforts we do notice and appreciate it!!

Thank you.

(07-18-2018, 08:44 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

Quickie: Is it possible to stonewall 3.2 at higher loops if one had executed at 1 loop?

Is it possible to trigger greater subconscious fear and resistance by increasing loops and making the program more likely to succeed?

Quote:Its early days, only 18 so far of me listening to 6 or 7 loops at night with my mobile phone to 3.2, however its also been 18days of masturbation, something I havent done in a long long time (years i feel) and with 3.2 at 1 loop with headphones, I as you know executed no fap immediately and stopped fapping for 56days until I stopped running 3.2 at that time due to travel/exams etc.

I know Thor listens to 7loops with headphones and after 30days saw execution take place so maybe im unable to get the same success.

wonder what you think.

thanks my friend.

I think you need to consciously choose to not masturbate or do the rest of the things you know are resistance and self sabotage.

(07-18-2018, 08:46 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-17-2018, 03:15 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-17-2018, 02:25 PM)jonathan4all Wrote: [ -> ]Howabout a focus fire sub on ultramotivation and overcoming procrastination together since those two were long due. Nothing beats a strong workethic afterall.

I like this idea of this program in addition to US/LM.

@Shannon in addition to these, would a LM focusfire be possible? Since Us/LM will be delayed, I can’t decide which one as a solo I would rather run.

LM is the reason US/LM cannot be made as a focusfire. It is too complex a script. So... no.

(07-18-2018, 08:57 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-18-2018, 08:18 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-17-2018, 10:50 PM)dweller94 Wrote: [ -> ]This badboy LM/US combo, I’ve had dreams about me running this years ago and that it’ll be a major success for all, just putting this out there.

Well when I have time to make it instead of DMSI and the focus fires...

I think it would be worth the time to develop it. It would make quite a bit of money for you and would work well for us. Could work on it round robin style while you work on DSMI?

I agree, it is a very worthwhile sub, and I get a very good feeling about it. I do plan to develop it. And I probably will work on it round robin while doing DMSI 3.3. But for the time being, we have to get some things out, and they have to be good things that are worth your money. That's why I am working right now on Sleep Induction Aid 2.0 in 5.5G, which is looking really interesting so far.

I have finished calculating the ideal phrasing for the key script, and now I am determining what should be turned on and off in the skeleton script to make it work at its best. Not yet sure what I'll be working on after that - maybe a US focusfire, maybe a Motivation/Anti-Procrastination focusfire (if that can be made as a focusfire), maybe Awakener 2.0 in 5.5G. Looks like the most likely one right now is the UM/AP, f it can be done as a focusfire.

(07-18-2018, 09:23 AM)hsindermann Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-18-2018, 08:20 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-17-2018, 11:23 PM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-17-2018, 02:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-17-2018, 10:13 AM)kornjacinvrac Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon i have been using 6 loops on masked with earbuds and something is happening, im on the second day i feel my emotions are getting stronger, courage is present and DMSI is pushing something, i mean... its doing its work. Also, inside me i feel a "i don't give a f" attitude which maybe is resistance or maybe i dont give a f anyways, or something i don't know. My question is, i hear my ears buzzing sometimes, for how long can i listen to 6 loops max? For one month, two three? What is the optimal time lenght you recommend?

By "buzzing" are you referring to tinnitus? Tinnitus is only possible if you are using the ultrasonic or hybrid track too loudly, or you are playing the masked tracks WAY the hell too loudly (heavy metal concert loudly) on speakers. If this is the case, all you need to do is adjust the volume downwards or switch to masked. I suggest that if you have ringing in your ears, it is most likely the ultrasonic being too loud, so just adjust it downwards a bit per day until that stops.

You can listen to it forever, as long as you're using it at a safe volume. I suggest you use it for (X-35) more days, where X is the date of release for DMSI 3.3.

I wasn't in either of this cases and I still got tinnitus from subliminals, so I doubt that it's the only possible way to get tinnitus.

I seriously doubt that. I would say you already had tinnitus and using the subliminals the way you did made it more obvious. But the masked tracks cannot give you tinnitus unless you use them at rock concert level volumes, because they are just like any other sound. Ultrasonic audio is known to trigger tinnitus, and it has to be used at lower volumes than masked to prevent that for some people.

Not sure if you remember Shannon, but I had the same experience with tinnitus before - on DMSI 3.1 I believe, which I heavily resisted. Actually since trying out MLS again with the new secondary A...something I have a slight tinnitus again. And I only listen to the hybrid at night at a very moderate volume - one that let's me easily fall asleep. Maybe it's a weird form of resistance...

That does sound like it could potentially be resulting from resistance. I have as yet been unable to determine the root cause of tinnitus, so it has been as yet a relatively fruitless journey trying to turn it off.

I have noted that if I have been using an ultrasonic for too long at too high a volume, I have to stop using anything with an ultrasonic component and allow the tinnitus to go away before I can use ultrasonics again without tinnitus. So try the masked track option.