Subliminal Talk

(09-28-2018, 10:22 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, I remember you said your advisor has an ace up their sleeve in regards to the development of DMSI. Can you clarify what that is?

Who said I know what it is yet? They don't tell me everything, and they don't tell me what I want to know, when I want to know it, just because I want to know it.

I am told only if there is a necessity and the time is right.

Shannon, if Ricardo's belief system is what you explained it to be and he doesn't consider himself attractive, then wouldn't the experience of girls that he finds very attractive consistently and blatantly finding him equally or more attractive correct his belief system?

Just to be clear, is this what DMSI is designed to do or is there something specific, some "pre-DMSI" work that needs to be done for DMSI to work properly? If it's not, this should definitely be addressed in the next version.

Thanks in advance

(09-28-2018, 09:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]@lano1106, what you are experiencing is a deep change that the program is making, which your subconscious wants to resist, but can't. It feels hopeless to prevent that change, and that hopelessness is being communicated to your conscious awareness as the depressive response you are experiencing.

I am quite happy of the explanation. The way I feel is proof that change is occuring!

Here is a quick follow-up question for you @Shannon : What does my current condition tells on the effectiveness of the program?

If I continue the program by following its instructions up to the end, is 100% AM6 programming integration still a possibility or feeling the way that I am is a good indication that multiple runs would be beneficial for me?

Note that at least a second run is planned when you release AM7...

(09-28-2018, 10:59 AM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, if Ricardo's belief system is what you explained it to be and he doesn't consider himself attractive, then wouldn't the experience of girls that he finds very attractive consistently and blatantly finding him equally or more attractive correct his belief system?

It is possible that this is the case. However, we experience what we get from our beliefs, which attune us to that reality. If his beliefs were easily changed (he was cooperating with DMSI) then that may have already have happened. DMSI has apparently had little to no impact on him or his beliefs, meaning that he prefers those beliefs over anything else. This is further demonstrated by his attempt at stating that what has happened that proves we are on the right track with DMSI is invalid, simply because he didn't experience it.

When you encounter someone who wants so badly to believe whatever they currently believe that they make attempts at revising history to suit their desired beliefs instead of adjusting their beliefs to what has happened that proves them wrong, you are getting into an area where they are refusing to see and accept reality. That means that it is likely that simply having the experience of having attractive women consistently treat him as attractive is likely to be met with denial at the least, and outright self delusion at the worst, in order to maintain his preferred point of view, beliefs, reality and experiences.

CatMan has demonstrated this very thing on more than one occasion with regards to DMSI, so it's no surprise that they agree with eachother.

Beyond a certain point, all you have is too much fear of change to accept anything but what you want to see, regardless of evidence or proof to the contrary.

Quote:Just to be clear, is this what DMSI is designed to do or is there something specific, some "pre-DMSI" work that needs to be done for DMSI to work properly? If it's not, this should definitely be addressed in the next version.

Thanks in advance

DMSI is designed to get you to clear and heal all of everything that stands in your way of executing DMSI's instructions and achieving and experiencing the results. And as I have said before, at this point, the only thing we have left to do is kill the fear that prevents the rest from taking effect. And that's what I have been working on.

(09-28-2018, 11:24 AM)lano1106 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-28-2018, 09:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]@lano1106, what you are experiencing is a deep change that the program is making, which your subconscious wants to resist, but can't. It feels hopeless to prevent that change, and that hopelessness is being communicated to your conscious awareness as the depressive response you are experiencing.

I am quite happy of the explanation. The way I feel is proof that change is occuring!

Here is a quick follow-up question for you @Shannon : What does my current condition tells on the effectiveness of the program?

I'm not sure what you mean.

Quote:If I continue the program by following its instructions up to the end, is 100% AM6 programming integration still a possibility or feeling the way that I am is a good indication that multiple runs would be beneficial for me?

Note that at least a second run is planned when you release AM7...

AM6 is a powerful program, of that there is no doubt. However, there are two things to consider when looking at how many runs are necessary:

1. The power level of 5G is much less than what we currently have to work with, and
2. The amount of change a person can make at a time without causing issues is finite.

So it is common and reasonable for people to run AM6 multiple times to achieve maximum effect.

(09-28-2018, 09:34 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-27-2018, 04:58 AM)DavisMind91 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-27-2018, 12:52 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-26-2018, 08:52 PM)DavisMind91 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-26-2018, 08:13 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: [ -> ]I reckon the new LTU should focus on emotional wellbeing, positive thinking, uplifting mindset(s) and the like. Such as E2, PTPA, USLM, Overcome Procrastination, Happiness and Joy, Gratitude, old LTU, etc. (pretty certain Shannon is already planning on adding all these).

The stuff that Shannon mentioned seems like an awesome program.

If you add anything else, it should be about emotional well-being, such as Attract Positive Energy, or Auric Shielding from bad vibes. Maybe some new enhanced emotional healing modules. Also, Everything is Possible could be good to add.


Other things are kinda ‘bloaty’ though.

Stuff about diet and supplements = bloat.
Exercise routine improvement = bloat.
Financial = bloat.
Stop swearing = bloat.
Mental = maybe add just 1 or 2 basic lines in the script about this. But this is still bloat.
Social = (old LTU already covers this).

So...you do realize the title of the subliminal is life tune up right?...Since when are areas like mental, financial, and physical health been considered “bloat”?...when in fact these things, rather poorly or excellently handled are still factors that make up the sum total of a person’s life?

What you’re recommending the new LTU focus on are the same areas the old one does, just with new modules, minus of course the USLM and E2. The current LTU already assists with emotional well-being in many ways, it just doesn’t seem geared towards emotional healing, at least not in the way that E2 does. Instead it focuses on things like instilling a winner’s mindset, over coming guilt, shame, and fear, increasing self confidence, and even improving one’s health, etc.

I feel making the most effective sub geared towards improving one’s life will do more than just generally motivate them and make them feel good. It should also urge them to get off their ass and focus on taking action steps to improve literally all areas of their life in more specific and focused ways. Ultimately rather a person does anything action-oriented is still up to them but we have plenty subs in the shop already that can help a person simply feel better. Those subs have their place and are important, but it appears to me when you’re talking about LTU you’re talking about a sub that’s meant to assist with a total life overhaul from the inside out.

Just to add my opinion, some of the stuff mentioned already are covered. As @MasterEnki already mentioned, which came to mind when I read your post, something motivating a healthy lifestyle was already in the old LTU so things like diet and excise will already be included in the updated version. Social is already covered as well. Meh, swearing I would agree is not a high priority. Now Financial and mental would definitely I think need to be included if we are talking about an all around tune up your life sub.

I think for those it should just be some broad statements that will affect those areas and don't need to be as detailed. I do see mental as being important seeing as its already covered the physical (healthy lifestyle, detoxing) and emotional (upgraded E2, detoxing the emotions) sides of a persons life. For mental, for example, I think just some "broad" statements to maximize: Intelligence, Memory, focus, and understanding of concepts/information quickly. For financial stuff maybe things like: Attract financial success and Think like a successful person (I know there is the "think like a millionaire" sub but just to make it more broad). For the Mental stuff just thought it should just touch broadly on that since I know Shannon hated working on that program.

In the end whether these suggestions are approve for being good inclusions or not, I really look forward to this program. If the Fear modules end up working just great in 3.3 and properly deal with fear, just imagine a sub like this working on you with barely any resistance? Seems like it would be amazing and life changing in many ways.

I can understand there being more blanket statements in terms of the financial and mental improvements (or anything else). I'm throwing out ideas of what sort of suggestions could be written in the new LTU script, Seeing as how most people tend to have issues with credit is why I suggested statements geared towards that as well, like a "Get out of Debt" inclusion from the 3G subs.

It's great if one attracts financial success, but if they don't have a pragmatic mindset that allows them to hold on to that success when it comes to dealing with their finances, they'll be worse off than when they even started to improve financially.

Also, what I'm getting at is for ALL my suggestions, is trying to probe Shannon's mind as to how he can make statements that not only plants suggestions and instructions into this program to assist with conscious and subconscious general life improvements, but also instructions that'll help individuals actually maintain (or better yet) build upon the improvements that were made during the LTU 5.5G run. I remember Shannon stating he wants to have a person achieve the goals of the program all in one run (correct me if I'm wrong). If that's the case, the program, down to it's core will have to find a way to instill instructions to help keep one on track, long after they even stop running the program.

I want people to achieve the goals of the program. It isn't going to be a one run and done type thing, though: people have different levels of issues to work on, different levels of readiness, different circumstances, etc. So much like E2, it will be designed to always be there to help you improve whatever you can improve when you run it. If I were to try to make it so that you ran it once for 6 months and it couldn't do anything else, that would not be taking into account the dynamic nature of people, the circumstances in which they might find themselves, etc.

Basically, LTU 5.5G will be designed to improve your life as much as possible during each run, but to be used periodically to continue stepping up over time, taking into account the changes to self and circumstance each time.

I'm liking LTU 5.5G more and more already. I feel like I get benefits from each sub I run but the effects are just isolated to that one area such as Self esteem, detox, and success. It will be nice to see how LTU 5.5G is able to improve all of these areas in my life and more.
I never ran LTU 5G so I don't have a frame of reference from which to compare but I know it was a really popular sub. I expect the new one to be no different.

I was mentioned, so I guess I need to post now.

Right. So basically, you're saying that the girls I wanted, actually wanted me all along somehow, and my "fear blinded me to that". Well that's weird, because their actions and words said the exact opposite.

That's why I got rejected or treated like trash by them. Even some saying point blank they weren't attracted to me were also apparently attracted. Because in another thread you said people generally respond to attraction with attraction. Of course, if that was actual reality...we wouldn't even NEED DMSI obviously. And Jessica Alba would be attracted to most of the men in the world, lol. Or also that I'm "denying" they wanted me for some random reason, I guess lying about it all. Or that I had sex or whatever with them all, but "blinded" myself to all of it and don't recall any of it. You've spoke often of me allegedly "denying" all these amazing results DMSI is giving me that I can't recall at all. I can recall of no amazing results I've had on this. But then again, I'm probably just blinded to it so don't take my word for it.

(09-28-2018, 10:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-28-2018, 10:07 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]"Overcome Fear of being Alone" is needed in DMSI

Wouldn't that be covered by the "Fear Removal Module" I'm working on? Designed to remove any and all fears preventing you from executing DMSI fully?

Remember when I said that.. After stopping DMSI i have this fear of being alone even in daytime.. As if someone or something is gonna grab me.. Thats why i said that.

(09-28-2018, 01:00 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-28-2018, 10:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-28-2018, 10:07 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]"Overcome Fear of being Alone" is needed in DMSI

Wouldn't that be covered by the "Fear Removal Module" I'm working on? Designed to remove any and all fears preventing you from executing DMSI fully?

Remember when I said that.. After stopping DMSI i have this fear of being alone even in daytime.. As if someone or something is gonna grab me.. Thats why i said that.

Soukds like you have a blocked solar plexus chakra. That can’t cause fear of being alone.

Catman,

I think what Shannon meant is your deep fears what prevented you from achieving DMSI goals.

Therefore if you execute DMSI, you will get the girls you want.

(09-28-2018, 01:47 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Catman,

I think what Shannon meant is your deep fears what prevented you from achieving DMSI goals.

Therefore if you execute DMSI, you will get the girls you want.

Hi Samba,

We'll see if that happens. Like I've said before, I'm so glad that I have nowhere near as much fixation on girls as long ago. This constant failure doesn't bother me nearly as much anymore. Chasing them and obsessing over them seems to have been such a massive waste of time for me. I'm much more worried about this crisis at my second company, fixing that, rather than continuing to chase girls for zero ROI. I do know I'm vastly less interested in pursuing anything anymore. Maybe that's some IDGAF outcome independence, or some kind of sense of futility, who knows.

I just get irritated with this backwards notion that I'm "denying" these awesome results I'm apparently getting meanwhile I've been snubbed constantly. So I needed to speak up.

I meant nothing bad or troll etc. with my words. Probably a bit strong, but I didn't mean anything bad. Just wanted to be truthful.

(09-28-2018, 11:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-28-2018, 11:24 AM)lano1106 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-28-2018, 09:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]@lano1106, what you are experiencing is a deep change that the program is making, which your subconscious wants to resist, but can't. It feels hopeless to prevent that change, and that hopelessness is being communicated to your conscious awareness as the depressive response you are experiencing.

I am quite happy of the explanation. The way I feel is proof that change is occuring!

Here is a quick follow-up question for you @Shannon : What does my current condition tells on the effectiveness of the program?

I'm not sure what you mean.

Well, your second answer pretty much addressed the first question. I was trying to figure out if a run with or without resistance was any indication if the end result would include 100% of the program objectives implemented in full force.

I am aware that 5G programs are much less powerful than what is released with current generation. I definitely want to run at least one more time the AM program but just to optimize my ROI, I will wait for AM7 release to do the second run...

(09-28-2018, 11:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:If I continue the program by following its instructions up to the end, is 100% AM6 programming integration still a possibility or feeling the way that I am is a good indication that multiple runs would be beneficial for me?

Note that at least a second run is planned when you release AM7...

AM6 is a powerful program, of that there is no doubt. However, there are two things to consider when looking at how many runs are necessary:

1. The power level of 5G is much less than what we currently have to work with, and
2. The amount of change a person can make at a time without causing issues is finite.

So it is common and reasonable for people to run AM6 multiple times to achieve maximum effect.

(09-28-2018, 09:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-26-2018, 06:05 PM)DavisMind91 Wrote: [ -> ]Been a while. Feels good to be back. With that being said I’d like to ask Shannon, when you build this new LTU, do you plan to have it contain modules that assist with every area of life?...I know spiritual will be a tricky one due to everyone having different beliefs and it’s probably better to Omit that area all together. I’m speaking more in terms of:

Physical - Focus on improving one’s diet and creating and/or improving an exercise routine, and supplementation regiment to attain and maintain optimal health and nutrition.

Mental - Some sort of module similar to MLS (if not outright using MLS altogether in the new LTU)

Emotional - You pretty much already mentioned E2 being in there possibly. Along with a culmination of other positive and healthy emotional mindsets such as self - esteem and confidence, etc.

Financial - Getting one to focus on getting and staying out of debt, and learning to utilize credit and their financial resources to help maintain excellent financial health.

Social - Including a module like the one in AM6 that not only helps you manifest genuine, quality social bonds, but also motivates you to maintain them. Ensuring you’d be the best friend, Spouse, lover, Parent, etc. that you could be. (Of course everyone’s social roles would be different and depend upon their commitments).

I realize it’ll be a while before you’d truly know what was possible to do with the new LTU but maybe some of this can give ideas as to what direction you could take the project when it comes to helping the sub improve the specific areas ( and ultimately the total sum) of the user’s life.

I'm planning to make LTU self optimizing polymorphic, meaning that it will adapt itself to whatever you need to improve your life.

The self optimizing polymorphic approach to LTU 5.5g sounds awesome.

(09-28-2018, 08:37 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Just had a quick read of Shannon's journal about looks.

I feel looks don't seem to matter to women that are either yes ugly or women that are older.

By older I mean approx 30+.

Women from the age of 18-30 will have the minorities for whom beyond looks what truly matters in a relationship is values and morals however for the majority what they find as the perfect man usually is the proverbial Prince charming, the quarterback etc.

If this wasn't the reality of life then movies wouldn't make movies of such.

Having been to many universities in my lifetime so far I have always come to the conclusion based on observations that women above 18 always seek out good looking men as their mate for sex and a relationship.

They only during a relationship will then consider other factors beyond looks which is the same for men too on the whole.

Above 30+ approx women tend to forgo men's looks based on what level of a provider and safety provider he can be as for them the body clock is ticking yet if they could get the whole package ie good looks too they will go for that.

A key requirement for many women has been grooming and grooming means congruence to the image that male is trying to exhibit. As long as he groom's as best as he can he raises up the image ladder in her eyes if he is indeed what she finds attractive.

I found when I was good looking I got more attention than no2 as an older less attractive male. My personality has improved my opinions have matured and I have become a better man for it but body image matters and counts.

Of cos this is all my current belief system and I welcome DMSI to change this in any way possible to allow me to attract higher sexier classier women than normal but my current world view is based on my years of observations.

Excuse any typos as I am typing from my phone and also haven't had time to read all posts as time is scarce for me once again.

Ps: I just finished reading all of the journal entry from Shannon and didn't see if this realisation from Shannon means that he can now include something else into DMSI which will work on changing this new "fear/lack of new belief acceptance" that he has had an epiphany about?

I have the exact opposite happen to me.

I’m fit and ripped, and have a great physique from years of gym training, running and swimming.

Yet, women who are <30 avoid me like the plague and totally ignore me. I even get IODs from them. On buses / trains they never sit near me, and will stand if the only free seat is next to me. Middle aged women don’t mind sitting next to me though (though middle-aged women only sit next to me if the other seats are taken).

At uni, the women (<30s) avoided me and sat away from me in lectures, except women who were middle aged. Two middle aged women offered / gave me lifts, but neither made any moves. It was handy to get free lifts though.


The only women who have shown any interest in me are between the ages of 37 - 47 specifically.

‘37yo woman’ (M1) has said several times she wants to sleep with me (the group home situation makes it complicated). She has also been naked in front of me (and her tits are beautiful, fully natural and slightly smaller than the average ten-pin bowling ball). Her brain damage is a huge barrier to sex happening, so I’ve given up on getting with her. I still see her occasionally for lunch, as just friends.

A who is 39, walked up and grabbed me and kissed me. Nothing sexual happened though and the attraction seems to have ‘fizzed out’.

M2 who is 39 says that I’m ‘hot’, but doesn’t make any moves on me. She just calls me ‘hot’. TBH, I’m not that interested in her, but enjoy being called ‘hot’.

D who is 47 (I mistakenly said she was 45 in another post(s). But found out recently that she is actually 47) has made out with me several times. She keeps on flaking / ghosting whenever any dating plans are made, so I think that maybe she doesn’t really want to date me, but just wants to make out (which is still awesome). I often she her with different guys, so she is likely a Nympho (I don’t mind Nymphos).


All this interest has been in the last year and a bit (since 2017). I have yet to experience sex, BJs or handy-Js though. Making out is the furthest I’ve gotten so far.


As one of my close friends said:
“You’re like weird art. The weirder the art, the more socially divided people are about it. Most people will dislike you. But a niche group of people will absolutely love and appreciate your weirdness.”.

Another friend says about me:
“I find your unique brand of social awkwardness to be refreshing.”.


I am quite different from the typical 30yo male. And most likely a statistical exception to your argument that “women who are 18-30 are mostly interested in looks”.

But my experiences suggests that women 18-30 do NOT consider looks the most important thing (otherwise I would have the 18-30s making out with me and calling me ‘hot’, and sitting next to me, etc.). Instead I seem to attract middle aged women, and repel younger women.


I reckon these middle aged (37 - 47 yo) women are interested in me for more than just looks.

Only one of them has seen me without a shirt (37yo woman) and she said that I “look good”. The others have only seen me in a long sleeve hoodie and jeans, so they have never seen my physique.