(07-16-2018, 03:52 AM)Runitonce Wrote: [ -> ]I emailed support and was told to post here since there's a better chance of it being viewed by Shannon.
I did AM6 for 2 years, DMSI 3.1 for few months, 3.2b for few weeks without any negative side effects. I recently started 3.2A and i'm experiencing pain in the back of the head that lasts all day. Once i stop using dmsi, the pain goes away after 2 days. Once i start using dmsi again, it comes back. It's not a headache like feeling but more like a head injury pain feeling and pressure pain like your head is in a vice clamp. Support believed it was due to healing? Should i continue using dmsi 3.2a or discontinue? Thanks.
This sounds like a reaction to the fear this program generates which results in a pain being experienced as an effort by the subconscious to express itself, either in how afraid it is of this change, or the perception of some danger, or the resistance it has (stop, or I'll make you suffer).
I cannot know for sure what the pain is from, but if I was a gambling man, I would put my money on the latter.
As to whether you should continue, that is up to you.
(07-16-2018, 05:24 AM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, I've run 7 loops of B last 9 days and I watched porn and masturbated to it 3 days. Also, I went to a strip club and spent money on lap dances since I hadn't gotten any sexual pleasure. I had lost total interest in visiting strip clubs on 3.1 and 3.2 with the lower number of loops. Saturday, before watching porn and fapping, my mind was persuading me to give up DMSI by saying, "**** it! DMSI isn't doing anything. Watch porn and fap." So, I spent the entire day watching porn and fapping. I did the same thing yesterday too. Along with those, I had too much rage about the societal conditioning and my family's upbringing of me. I feel now I should have transmuted that rage and sexual energy into something productive to achieve the goal. But my mind tricked me into staying home and doing nothing over the weekend. Nothing at all.
Now, what is special about it is it took years for me to totally eliminate porn from my life. I used to be a porn addict and it engulfed almost 5 years of my life. I was able to totally remove it after years of trial and error 3 years ago. I reset my brain, I was enjoying my life. But this kind of IDGAF attitude brought up by 7 loops of B is totally unusual. I feel very meek and scared today. I regret about the relapse. I know a lot of disadvantages that can be brought by porn and masturbation to porn specially to one's brain. I researched a lot since I needed to get myself out of it in order to change my life. This relapse is creating a lot of anger in me now and I literally want to burst like a bomb. I can feel the rage trying to come out of my skin specially my hands and my legs. I wish I could kick and punch everything in front of me.
I wonder this IDGAF attitude is a loophole to prevent one from achieving any of the goal of DMSI. Please suggest me what I should do and also if you could close this loophole in 3.3 that would be fantastic.
So it sounds to me like what you are experiencing is a very scared little boy inside you is trying his damnedest to resist the program by reversal, deception and creating a situation in which it becomes disadvantageous to run DMSI. Disincentive, as it were.
First, I would say that you should be on A, bot B, with your reactions, if you are going to run DMSI. This screams "resistance in multiple directions at once". It also means the program is touching a nerve somewhere, and your subconscious is freaking out and doing whatever it can to fight the program.
If there is a loophole, it is that I don't yet know how to stop and prevent reversal resistance and resistance in general. The best efforts I have been able to come up with at the time of 3.2 exist within 3.2, at least those that have been released to the public. A big issue that you seem to face is that you are refusing to take personal responsibility for your choices and actions; it is always a choice what we do in response to an urge, desire or want, and it is a
conscious choice. You keep choosing to allow your subconscious desires to win.
If I were in your shoes, I would switch to 3.2-A at 7 loops, and try to do everything in my power to consciously resist the urge to do what you know DMSI is trying to prevent.
(07-16-2018, 07:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2018, 09:14 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Reality bending is designed to create a situation in which you make certain adjustments that result in the goals of the program. It's aimed not so much at magnifying the effects of the program, but the effectiveness of the program in achieving its goals. It is for the most part ASS/ART. The magnitude of "luck" is handled by something else.
@Shannon That last line caught my eye so I wanted to ask: Have you learned a lot from when you made LM 4g til now to the point where you can increase the magnitude by a lot?
I can increase the magnitude, but it is as yet somewhat unclear how much.
Quote:Also, I was just curious because I remember you saying that with reality bending there is dangers if you do too much reality bending. I was wondering is there any dangers with increasing the magnitude of "luck" too much?
If pushed too far, there are dangers to manipulating luck too much. They are in fact similar to those of reality bending, but to a lesser degree in most cases. Manipulating your reality must be done with respect for the rules by which reality works, and with an awareness in mind for the universe to always balance itself. It is with these things in mind that we must proceed with appropriate wisdom, restraint, technique and caution in doing so. That is why we at IML take small steps and do not throw caution and safety to the wind. It takes longer, but it is a better result in the end.
Quote:Is there any limits to how much "luck" can be manipulated?
Yes.
Quote:Lastly, can't remember if you said you put LM in the DMSI already but if not will you probably make LM part of the skeleton script to aid in the goals of whatever program it is in? So, might be possible to see it in 3.3 (if it isn't already included in DMSI that is). Sorry if this is too many questions I'm just really interested in knowing this and excited about this subject.
There is a module in the skeleton script that does something similar to what LM does, but which is more appropriate for helping the user achieve the goals of the program they are using. It is not using luck, however.
So will limits on how much luck can be manipulated result in there being what can be manifested using LM/US?
(07-16-2018, 06:06 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (07-16-2018, 05:56 AM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2018, 08:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2018, 02:15 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2018, 08:05 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I have a list of additions as long as my arm. lol I want some of them to be a pleasant surprise that I tell you about when I release the program, but a few from the list include...
- Prevent unwanted conception.
- Improve anti-STD programming.
- Make it win-win for the user and the affected to execute.
- Improve adjustment of self image to be congruent with what DMSI is attempting to achieve.
- Make your actions and choices congruent with celebrity.
- Prevent hiring a hooker or an escort to pay your way to sex as an escape from executing DMSI.
- Adjust the perception of the goals of the program to make them reasonable, natural, possible.
- Modulate the effects of the entire aura to make them non-threatening on a case by case basis.
- Improve disconnect from negativity programming.
- Communicate to all layers and levels of awareness that you consciously want to achieve the goals of this program, and are giving yourself permission to do so.
I'll stop there. There's a lot more, of course. I have been gathering ideas from the forum discussions for a while now. The really interesting stuff will remain a secret, at least for now.
May I ask you include a feature in future versions to increase sperm volume ? if that is possible.
I am sure the ladies would love to have their sperm volume increased.
Why would you ask for that, women users aside?
It's here. I quoted some more stuff because the female sperm count dealio amuses me.
I think strip-clubs, etc., would somehow fall into "paying for sex", or at least that bit can be further developed to encompass strip clubs etc. also.
Thank you Have at ye!
I think most women DO want more sperm count actually. 
Ahem, anyhow, if it hasn't already been noted: sexual performance needs to be improved for SURE. Whether that be getting erections or lasting longer than a few seconds.
I lasted long my last time in bed with a girl, but wasn't hard enough to **** her. Just got deep throat BJ's for 15 minutes, which is great, but the poor girl wants the D, you know?
We need that fixed.
I'm already looking into eating better to improve it, but since I wake up with diamond hard erections most nights, I know my dick can get erected just fine. It's lasting long that is my main concern atm.
Anyhow, good stuff. Looking forward to 3.3! :o
The sexual performance module is a rock vs. a hard place for me. If I am too agressive (3.1), people either get insane results or they reverse resist and shut down completely. If I try to do what will work for everyone (3.2) those of you who are not getting enough sexual frequency will complain because it isn't working fast enough.
The module is designed to improve your sexual performance every time you have sex, to whatever degree you are comfortable with. For this to help someone starting off without a lot of sexual experience, they need to have sex to a certain degree of frequency to cause that module to create the circumstances that are desired.
So this isn't something "wrong with the sexual performance module" that "needs to be fixed". It's a limitation of the universally effective approach that requires you to be having enough sex for it to make a significant difference.
Presuming you're not resisting it for some reason, of course.
(07-15-2018, 08:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2018, 12:04 PM)Williamx25 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2018, 07:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-11-2018, 02:14 PM)Williamx25 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-09-2018, 12:03 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I can't say for sure what they will do for you. I know that we are steadily increasing how well the programs work on resistant behavior. But if and when any particular person will start executing significantly, I cannot know.
How do I consciously know what the instructions are? Or is it something that I will execute subconsciously?
You don't consciously know what the instructions are. They will be executed entirely at the subconscious level.
Quote:What do you exactly mean with those instructions? Adjusting body language/ voice tone / eye contact ? Becoming a more attractive man through body language? Or is it the programming that goes right into my subconscious mind?
I'm not sure what instructions you are referring to. The script? The program instructions? Something I mentioned?
Quote:If approaching girls isn’t executing the instructions, or talking to them, what is it then? Just curious 
DMSI is designed to make you so sexually attractive that you don't have to approach. It doesn't stop you, but why would it be executing the instructions to approach if the goal is to simply be so attractive that that is not necessary in the first place?
Executing the instructions is just that. Those instructions are not public, so you won't know consciously what they are. When you start executing them, however, you should see a drastic change, like Thor did.
What you describe sounds like stonewalling.
I was referring to the instructions that DMSI gives you. I saw you mention that in a few posts. And of course, everything is subconsciously programmed so I can't know/hear them consciously.
I was trying to figure out what the instructions are, but now I understand it. I just have to wait and see how the women flock on to me and escalate sexually with me. I think my resistancev is also partly the fact that I was stressing about ''approaching''. Like when I was out in public or at the gym I got eye contact and I was like: SHIT, I HAVE TO APPROACH, DO SOMETHING? And then I got really confused about everything.. So DMSI is just basically wait until they talk to you and then you can arrange a date and escalate sexually?
I still pussy out when a girl stares in my direction/ have eye contact with a girl
I got male pattern baldness and a very young age (15). So i'm already 10 years bald and I hate it. And my fat body doesn't help aswell lol. THat's my major resistance. I am disgusted by my looks. But i'm working hard in the gym trying to gain muscles and lower in bodyfat.
So you are having a conflict between the goals of DMSI and your self image. I see we will need a self image adjustment module upgrade in 3.3.
Quote:I was walking around with all the PUA stuff in my head, I'm trying to get rid of it, I mean the mindset that a man must hunt etc... I just need women to come to me and then I will sexually escalate.
Once again, DMSI does not stop you from using PUA. It is not required that you do. But, when she must hunt you, it tells her that you have enough options that you don't need to hunt, and your value is percieved to be very high as a result. Men with an abundance of women don't hunt, they select from the offerings. But until you start having women react to the program enough to spark off the social proof that will result when you do, making your interests known isn't necessarily a bad thing. You just want to do it in a way that does not suggest you are of less value than DMSI is telling them you are. As in, don't go sarging the whole damned room. Pick one woman, the most attractive one, and let her and her alone know you are interested, but do it in a way that shows you don't need her, but you do want her. No desperation.
Quote:What do you mean with stonewalling? Like hard resistance?
Refusing to execute.
Quote:I'm going to increase my loops to 8 hours, i'm going to get those sleepheadphones, I need to crush and push through this resistance at all costs. Even if I have to listen 10 hours a day. So be it....
I think you have will have to work on this forever. Everything needs to get upgraded to 10G or something. Maybe 50G. Or make a script that will equal 1 hour of listening to 1000 hours of listening lol.
I am not going to work on this forever, regardless of what the last version does. I am going to push it as far as I can, and then stop. It's been 5 years now working to just upgrade 5G to 6G, and most of the progress is not visible to you guys because I haven't taken it out of Beast yet. There will be a HUGE jump when I do. And we are not far off at all from when I finish developing beast.
6G is the end of the line for the foreseeable future, but just FYI: 1 hour of 5.5G current already is about 1000 hours of listening compared to a 3 or 4G. What we need isn't more hours, it's the rest of the modules that get us past the resistance. Beast 16 is doing a really good job of that so far; not perfect, but good enough that testing it requires a lot of care.
DMSI 3.3 will be a large improvement over 3.2, just as 3.2 was over 3.1, and 3.1 was over 3.01. But it is likely to be either 3.4 or 4.0 where the biggest jump in power occurs. I'm only going to be mining Beast for the technology after it achieves design spec. We are getting close. Did a test yesterday that really surprised me, and formal testing is coming up shortly as well.
Thank you for extensive reply. That clear up alot of things for me.
So 6G is the end line for the foreseeable future, that means all of your products will end at 6G? What's left is tweaking the modules in order to get 99% past the resistance am I right? That sounds awesome, you are really doing an outstanding job Shannon. I appreciate your work!
For us beta testers of DMSI 3.2, will we get all of our upgrades for free or do you have to charge an x amount for the either 3.4 / 4.0 version? The latest version that will come out for DMSI?
Also will you use Beast 16 or 17 for the development of the last definite version of our DMSI? I can imagine that will drive up the costs of course.
I can't wait until it all comes out! I'm definitely saving up! If I want to run 3 different products: DMSI, AM, MLS, with each 35 days of rest in between. Will the other programs stay permanent in my subconscious? So when i'm running maximum learning speed I also get all the benefits from Alpha Male and DMSI ?
(07-15-2018, 08:05 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2018, 01:33 PM)Morgul Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2018, 08:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-14-2018, 03:23 AM)Morgul Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon says to not try to clear things on our own (or at least not with any mind programming, or mind altering, no EFT tapping...), and let the sub do it, to not interfere. But I never follow that advice for long, because to me it's more important to become free, successful, and have what I want, than to wait and see how the subliminal solves it all subconsciously. I can't wait that long, I am committed to myself and my life.
So by doing that you invalidate the ability to know what DMSI is and is not doing, and slow me down from achieving the development it needs. That is a big part of the problem we have here, I never know if what you guys report is DMSI or something else you're doing that I don't know about.
I give those instructions for good reasons. Disregarding them slows down development. That's why we are stretching on into years now.
I'm not using DMSI, I didn't buy it yet. And most probably, even I'm curious, I won't do so unless a version of it is released, that is compatible with having an exclusive relationship with loyalty. What I'm using now is WM, the original version, doing stage 5 now. Now that I think, I will put it on my signature as many people do, it can prevent misunderstandings.
But because of my calling for healing and evolution, and the integrity with my coaching work, I will be unavoidably touching within things related to what the subliminals are doing. I simply cannot not use and be good at the tools that my clients pay me to teach them and help them with. Also in order to properly help them, I must grow at all costs, it can't be in any other way.
So yes, I don't count as a valid user to observe results from. Sorry for that. But I was doing it correctly before, years ago, while I could, when I wasn't forced to improve faster.
I'm not worried about you being a valid user, because you're not using an experimental. But if you give advice that detracts from my ability to gather useful data from those who are using the experimental, it makes things harder for me. They are already ridiculously difficult. I want people who are using DMSI to use it alone so I can see what IT does and does not do, not have to guess if it was DMSI or any of whatever other things they are doing/taking/trying/etc.
That's correct, I just edited that post to make it clear that what I shared I do, shouldn't be done by those using DMSI or any other experimental or test programs.
Is the US/LM focus fire sub a part of DMSI? Or it's own sub completely separate from it? Thanks.
Have anyone feels any signs of TDI 3.3 already?
(07-16-2018, 10:37 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]Is the US/LM focus fire sub a part of DMSI? Or it's own sub completely separate from it? Thanks.
It is it’s own separate sub completely.
(07-16-2018, 10:53 AM)Dmitry Wrote: [ -> ]Have anyone feels any signs of TDI 3.3 already?
I think I have felt TID from 3.3 before only a few times but I'm not sure. I think what I'm mostly feeling right now though is TID from US/LM. I say this because over the last week or so I've been feeling this want to start my college course already online and and feel motivated to finish my degree at the 2-3 month mark instead of going at my own pace and finish at the 6 month mark instead. Like I just got off my job right now and the thought that came through my mind wasn't going home and playing video games or something. It was wishing I was already starting on my courses so I can go home and work on finishing everything up. This is kind of different for me really.
Hey Shannon, is US/LM 5.5g more effective than the current BAMM for achieving wealth/success?
(07-16-2018, 11:34 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ] (07-16-2018, 10:53 AM)Dmitry Wrote: [ -> ]Have anyone feels any signs of TDI 3.3 already?
I think I have felt TID from 3.3 before only a few times but I'm not sure. I think what I'm mostly feeling right now though is TID from US/LM. I say this because over the last week or so I've been feeling this want to start my college course already online and and feel motivated to finish my degree at the 2-3 month mark instead of going at my own pace and finish at the 6 month mark instead. Like I just got off my job right now and the thought that came through my mind wasn't going home and playing video games or something. It was wishing I was already starting on my courses so I can go home and work on finishing everything up. This is kind of different for me really.
Now that you mention it, I had INSANE luck in a card game last night at a family gathering. It wasn't for any insane amount of money, but I won nearly ever single hand after nearly losing all my chips at one point. I went on to win the game. Never seen anything like it, neither had anyone else.