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Sick of seeing people bitch about the LTU price. Break the parasite mentality you have and understand the work it must’ve taken to even bring this thing into fruition. You already know something like this wasn’t gonna be cheap. Shannon went as far as to choose the absolute lowest price to start with in order to roll the subliminal out with a bargain price (at least temporarily). All the other points as to how and why the $600 price is there have already been made so I won’t bother repeating those. Bottom line is, if your ass can’t afford it right now then how about you spend less time complaining and more time figuring out how to save up the money for it.
@Shannon I'm still trying to decide between whether to get E3 or LTU. Is the stand alone E3 more effective than LTU at emotional healing and clearing, and if so, how much more effective?

Part of me wants to keep on going with DMSI to try to get that area of my life sorted out, but I'm guessing both E3 and LTU could also help make me more attractive as a side effect, and also help me out in other areas of my life that would be more useful in the long run.
(02-02-2019, 07:09 AM)DavisMind91 Wrote: [ -> ]Sick of seeing people bitch about the LTU price. Break the parasite mentality you have and understand the work it must’ve taken to even bring this thing into fruition. You already know something like this wasn’t gonna be cheap. Shannon went as far as to choose the absolute lowest price to start with in order to roll the subliminal out with a bargain price (at least temporarily). All the other points as to how and why the $600 price is there have already been made so I won’t bother repeating those. Bottom line is, if your ass can’t afford it right now then how about you spend less time complaining and more time figuring out how to save up the money for it.

I haven't seen anyone bitch about it. Must be another one of those perception things.
(02-02-2019, 07:09 AM)DavisMind91 Wrote: [ -> ]Sick of seeing people bitch about the LTU price. Break the parasite mentality you have and understand the work it must’ve taken to even bring this thing into fruition. You already know something like this wasn’t gonna be cheap. Shannon went as far as to choose the absolute lowest price to start with in order to roll the subliminal out with a bargain price (at least temporarily). All the other points as to how and why the $600 price is there have already been made so I won’t bother repeating those. Bottom line is, if your ass can’t afford it right now then how about you spend less time complaining and more time figuring out how to save up the money for it.

I'm not bitching about the price, just stating a fact that people on a tight budget will probably be priced out of 6G when it comes.
(02-02-2019, 07:07 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 06:36 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Just read the product page for LTU. damn sam!! This program is worth every penny! understatement. the first 4 listings those combine and if it were just those 4 would be worth it Man!! This program is gonna sell like hot cakes,in a few short months!! Let the word git out,you watch!! all of it combined,man,though I have several other titles I need and very much do want to use,this is one that is sooo attractive to me.
Im in America,and here,some folkd spend 600$ a week on dining out combined with Live theater,NYC,L.A. Chicago,ect...600 bucks man,are you kidding me. this is steal !! it was a helluva deal for me and a few other who got B.A.M.M. 2.0 when it came out initially fer 1,200$ ( just for a few days!) then it jumped to ,3000$,such a deal, I wouldnt call it a steal at all,but it certainly was a major boon to get it for less than half da price. its a whole new world Gents,this stuff is life changing and I believe in the case of LTU,its gonna change some serious shit ,in weeks for some users.
IM sooo looking forward to Ultra Monetary Success,yet theres sooo much in LTU that I need and want to heal & work on. this is what I call " beautiful happy trouble!",so many beautiful,happy choices to come forth from IML. Shannon M. YOU Rock!!

Interesting how we have such polar reactions to the price. We are seeing, "What? You're crazy! Nobody would pay that!" and "That's perfectly reasonable. I'll buy a copy." and "Holy cow, that's a very low price for that level of value!"

I guess it's all about point of view.

It might be very fairly priced, or even cheap, for all I know. I'm just sad that 6G will probably be out of my reach.
It is obvious that some will find the price huge and others a bargain.

Ask someone living in a country that gets a $400 monthly wage, someone that gets $3k monthly wage and someone who pays a performance coach for $200 a session and you will get three different stories about how good or bad the LTU price is.

Even if you go further some people value self-development more and some others not. I paid $500 for AM, run it twice already and did a hundred changes in my appearance, lifestyle and character in general. If I was to do this with coaching I would definitely need a team of different people to coach me, a lot of energy and focus and would still not have the natural smooth changes I experienced. Now if someone would take all these back and make me pay again I would pay at least $5k to get them back.

It is also obvious as terry44 mentioned that an ideal price (which I am not sure how it can be properly determined) will make more profit to Shannon. Yet again Shannon might have other things in mind. For example keeping a specific price and delivering results-value to customers might attract the right audience that can pay.
(02-02-2019, 08:05 AM)racktree Wrote: [ -> ]It is obvious that some will find the price huge and others a bargain.

Ask someone living in a country that gets a $400 monthly wage, someone that gets $3k monthly wage and someone who pays a performance coach for $200 a session and you will get three different stories about how good or bad the LTU price is.

Even if you go further some people value self-development more and some others not. I paid $500 for AM, run it twice already and did a hundred changes in my appearance, lifestyle and character in general. If I was to do this with coaching I would definitely need a team of different people to coach me, a lot of energy and focus and would still not have the natural smooth changes I experienced. Now if someone would take all these back and make me pay again I would pay at least $5k to get them back.

It is also obvious as terry44 mentioned that an ideal price (which I am not sure how it can be properly determined) will make more profit to Shannon. Yet again Shannon might have other things in mind. For example keeping a specific price and delivering results-value to customers might attract the right audience that can pay.

Yeah, I suppose that would mean that subs have gone from something anyone with an open mind and a modest income could afford to try, to something only those with a much larger amount of spare cash can afford.
(02-02-2019, 07:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 06:28 AM)pakr93 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 05:58 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 02:20 AM)lokko Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 01:25 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ]If a single stage 5.5G now costs $600 dollars, I'm fairly sure I will never be able to afford a 6G multistage. What will it be, 3k, 5k?


Honestly if it actually achieves its goal than people will buy it, and pay even more for 6G. However truth is, a small sample of people are going to buy it as of now, and it’s going to take Shannon a shit ton of time until he makes good money from it. As a business person I would have sold it for $149.99 so that 300 people buy, rather than $600 where maybe 30 people will buy. But who knows maybe LTU is going to be a game changer. I do agree with you about how it seems quite expensive for only being a single stage 5.5g. If it was 6G technology that was talked about for years now, then id say go for it. But 5.5G was never as hyped up as 6g was.

If it does more than AM6, which is $500, then it may well be worth the money (if you've got it!). I won't be able to afford it though, because my landlord has decided to sell the house I'm living in and the next place I get will have much higher rent. Also, my income has fallen in the last few years. Like I said, if a 6G multistage is 3k or 5k, I'll never be able to try it. My only hope is USLM4, or maybe UMS, which I might just be able to afford.

Yeah, 115 dollars is ok for me for a one stage program, but 600 is way too much. Regardless of its value. I think most people won't buy it because of that, which is a shame.

Also, I remember years ago people were saving for months for AM6. The same will likely happen with LTU, let alone 6Gs.
So it will take a lot of time for people to afford it and for Shannon to profit from these programs.

But we'll see Big Grin

Some people will have your point of view, and they won't buy it. Some people will have a different point of view. What it comes down to is, how much do you need what this program does, and how willing are you to do what it takes to get it? And, how do you perceive money? Plus, I think if you look at it, "most people" won't buy anything you offer to the public. The only thing I can think of that "most people" will buy is soap and fast food.

For some people, it would take a long time to save up $600. For some people, it's pocket change. If $600 is too much, and you want to use LTU, buy the 5G version, which is $89.95. That one is still available for exactly that reason. And if you want to use the 5.5G version enough, you'll find a way to pay for it.

But things are going to be changing for the positive in the next couple years, and we are going to see a LOT more sales than we do now - many times more, at least. It's not going to be that sales go down as my prices go up, because we will be offering more value than we ask payment for, as usual.

6G has been 6 years in development for good reason. And for those who can afford it, it will be well received. But you don't see Canon, for example, or Nikon, worrying about making their top end camera lenses inexpensive because they will sell fewer copies. They make lower end lenses to fit those price points. 5.5G and 6G are top end technologies in this field. They will have an appropriately top-end price tag. And there are plenty of other options if that is too much for you. We have 5G and 4G too. Or you can save up.

I'll pay for 6g DMSI
It is an unfortunate reality because Shannon's based in the US, so he needs the dollar value. F. in. for me 600$ is also quite a lot of potato (the buying power of 600$ around here is pretty high, though perhaps not as much as in other places), but - then again - where there's a will, there's a way.

Here's a trick anyone could try:

1) Acquire a copy of USLMaxx for 114.95$

2) Run it, set making 600$ of disposable income ASAP as one of your main goals

3) Earn the 600$ (you can change the goal now if you want to Wink )

4) Purchase LTU 5.5g

5) ....

6) Profit!

You are now receiving this trick for free, later on I will be charging 12.45$ for the e-book explaining it in all of its intricacies, so sign up for my mailing list and BUY NOW!!!!

( Wink )
(02-02-2019, 08:23 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 08:05 AM)racktree Wrote: [ -> ]It is obvious that some will find the price huge and others a bargain.

Ask someone living in a country that gets a $400 monthly wage, someone that gets $3k monthly wage and someone who pays a performance coach for $200 a session and you will get three different stories about how good or bad the LTU price is.

Even if you go further some people value self-development more and some others not. I paid $500 for AM, run it twice already and did a hundred changes in my appearance, lifestyle and character in general. If I was to do this with coaching I would definitely need a team of different people to coach me, a lot of energy and focus and would still not have the natural smooth changes I experienced. Now if someone would take all these back and make me pay again I would pay at least $5k to get them back.

It is also obvious as terry44 mentioned that an ideal price (which I am not sure how it can be properly determined) will make more profit to Shannon. Yet again Shannon might have other things in mind. For example keeping a specific price and delivering results-value to customers might attract the right audience that can pay.

Yeah, I suppose that would mean that subs have gone from something anyone with an open mind and a modest income could afford to try, to something only those with a much larger amount of spare cash can afford.

From Shannon’s earlier post, it sounds like he plans to offer 4G and 5G products at lower price points and keep 6G higher priced as a way to offer different sub levels for a wide variety of consumers. Somewhat similar to the way a new smartphone comes out each year and the last year’s gets cheaper.

It’s a smart approach imo but the big issue I see is the limit of 4G and 5G subs. From what I’ve seen, it could be that a 4G and a 6G version of the same sub exists and someone would be more than willing to pay the price for the 6G but they never tried subs so they try the 4G one out but they “resist” the entire sub and decide they just don’t work. Whereas if they had used the 6G one they’d get the results and stay a long time customer.

I think it’d be great though if at some point 4G and 5G received some kind of “anti resisting” upgrade so that doesn’t happen. Or maybe something where you take an online quiz that tells you the minimum sub generation you should use. Just something that crossed my mind.
(02-02-2019, 08:57 AM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 08:23 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 08:05 AM)racktree Wrote: [ -> ]It is obvious that some will find the price huge and others a bargain.

Ask someone living in a country that gets a $400 monthly wage, someone that gets $3k monthly wage and someone who pays a performance coach for $200 a session and you will get three different stories about how good or bad the LTU price is.

Even if you go further some people value self-development more and some others not. I paid $500 for AM, run it twice already and did a hundred changes in my appearance, lifestyle and character in general. If I was to do this with coaching I would definitely need a team of different people to coach me, a lot of energy and focus and would still not have the natural smooth changes I experienced. Now if someone would take all these back and make me pay again I would pay at least $5k to get them back.

It is also obvious as terry44 mentioned that an ideal price (which I am not sure how it can be properly determined) will make more profit to Shannon. Yet again Shannon might have other things in mind. For example keeping a specific price and delivering results-value to customers might attract the right audience that can pay.

Yeah, I suppose that would mean that subs have gone from something anyone with an open mind and a modest income could afford to try, to something only those with a much larger amount of spare cash can afford.

From Shannon’s earlier post, it sounds like he plans to offer 4G and 5G products at lower price points and keep 6G higher priced as a way to offer different sub levels for a wide variety of consumers. Somewhat similar to the way a new smartphone comes out each year and the last year’s gets cheaper.

It’s a smart approach imo but the big issue I see is the limit of 4G and 5G subs. From what I’ve seen, it could be that a 4G and a 6G version of the same sub exists and someone would be more than willing to pay the price for the 6G but they never tried subs so they try the 4G one out but they “resist” the entire sub and decide they just don’t work. Whereas if they had used the 6G one they’d get the results and stay a long time customer.

I think it’d be great though if at some point 4G and 5G received some kind of “anti resisting” upgrade so that doesn’t happen. Or maybe something where you take an online quiz that tells you the minimum sub generation you should use. Just something that crossed my mind.

I'm wondering if you do say E3, or something with advanced fear removal, that it would help with a lot of resistance to 5G subs. So you could do 6 months on a sub with general fear removal and then do the 5G sub you want without as much/any resistance.
(02-02-2019, 08:57 AM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 08:23 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 08:05 AM)racktree Wrote: [ -> ]It is obvious that some will find the price huge and others a bargain.

Ask someone living in a country that gets a $400 monthly wage, someone that gets $3k monthly wage and someone who pays a performance coach for $200 a session and you will get three different stories about how good or bad the LTU price is.

Even if you go further some people value self-development more and some others not. I paid $500 for AM, run it twice already and did a hundred changes in my appearance, lifestyle and character in general. If I was to do this with coaching I would definitely need a team of different people to coach me, a lot of energy and focus and would still not have the natural smooth changes I experienced. Now if someone would take all these back and make me pay again I would pay at least $5k to get them back.

It is also obvious as terry44 mentioned that an ideal price (which I am not sure how it can be properly determined) will make more profit to Shannon. Yet again Shannon might have other things in mind. For example keeping a specific price and delivering results-value to customers might attract the right audience that can pay.

Yeah, I suppose that would mean that subs have gone from something anyone with an open mind and a modest income could afford to try, to something only those with a much larger amount of spare cash can afford.

From Shannon’s earlier post, it sounds like he plans to offer 4G and 5G products at lower price points and keep 6G higher priced as a way to offer different sub levels for a wide variety of consumers. Somewhat similar to the way a new smartphone comes out each year and the last year’s gets cheaper.

It’s a smart approach imo but the big issue I see is the limit of 4G and 5G subs. From what I’ve seen, it could be that a 4G and a 6G version of the same sub exists and someone would be more than willing to pay the price for the 6G but they never tried subs so they try the 4G one out but they “resist” the entire sub and decide they just don’t work. Whereas if they had used the 6G one they’d get the results and stay a long time customer.

I think it’d be great though if at some point 4G and 5G received some kind of “anti resisting” upgrade so that doesn’t happen. Or maybe something where you take an online quiz that tells you the minimum sub generation you should use. Just something that crossed my mind.

ASC 6G will be offered for free, so that "resistor" type would have an opportunity to experience the power of a 6G sub without risk.

And there will still be UMS 5.5G - I think we'll see quite a few people makin' some moula. Dude who won the Pick 5 Lotto using USLM3 certainly has enough cash to buy whatever subs he wants to run in the future, lol. Obviously, that result comes w/ a tag "results not typical," but who knows...maybe one day, they will be (typical).
(02-02-2019, 09:10 AM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]ASC 6G will be offered for free, so that "resistor" type would have an opportunity to experience the power of a 6G sub without risk.

And there will still be UMS 5.5G - I think we'll see quite a few people makin' some moula. Dude who won the Pick 5 Lotto using USLM3 certainly has enough cash to buy whatever subs he wants to run in the future, lol. Obviously, that result comes w/ a tag "results not typical," but who knows...maybe one day, they will be (typical).

USLM3 hasn't really helped my luck much. It has been great for fear removal and being more confident and positive. I'm still hoping it will deliver some money luck eventually though.
(02-02-2019, 07:10 AM)DMSIuser78 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I'm still trying to decide between whether to get E3 or LTU. Is the stand alone E3 more effective than LTU at emotional healing and clearing, and if so, how much more effective?

Part of me wants to keep on going with DMSI to try to get that area of my life sorted out, but I'm guessing both E3 and LTU could also help make me more attractive as a side effect, and also help me out in other areas of my life that would be more useful in the long run.

What is your priority? Is it the results DMSI is going for, or the results E3 is going for, or the results LTU is going for?

The primary goal of DMSI is to cause yourself to become irresistibly sexually attractive, and have others try to get in your pants as a result.

The primary goal of E3 is to give you deep, powerful emotional healing and clearing that makes you healthier emotionally.

The primary goal of LTU is to make your life as much better as possible in as many directions as possible, in the shortest amount of time possible, all at once.

Sounds like a pretty distinct set of choices to me.
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