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(02-07-2019, 07:47 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon i tried frequensee with both doors closed, in his room its at -90db which is as flat as it can be on that app, in my room it plays at -20-30db at night but im partly deaf and plus having it at a lower volume in the past to aim for -40db didnt do anything so at 65%vlc it bounces around the -20-30db for my loops.

Since the frequeensee app shows at -90 or basically flat it should be safe to get him uslm4 when released and he can play it in his room at night and shouldnt have any issues?

As far as I know.
Is E3 going to have FRM in it?

Also, I'm wondering what is the possibility of you combining E3 and Self-Esteem into one program, seeing as they are so closely related and that E2 had "Self esteem/respect/self worth and validity enhancement" modules in it already? I don't want to do LTU yet because I can't afford it, and also cuz I want to be able to focus on purely the E3 H&C and Self-Esteem's deep healing.

I would I guess be down to do both right after another, but why not have the ability to just do both in one since they are so related?
(02-06-2019, 05:30 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2019, 01:13 AM)Username Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-05-2019, 03:08 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-04-2019, 11:54 PM)Username Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-04-2019, 05:20 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like a good way not to get to the program goal to me.
I think it has to do with the additions, that consider sleep. Just like you can't stay still and run at the same time, so if it takes few nights of restless sleep to process some stuff, I don't mind. There are fundamental rules to life and reality, that you can't change... Gravity still works, no matter what your limiting beliefs are. Same way, if there is some heavy stuff to work through, you can't just snip your fingers and get it over with. If you want to get from point A to point B, at one point you have to take those steps. But most people still choose to wait for the teleportatation to be invented, so they wouldn't have to. I have had a week of nice and peaceful sleep, and now it's time to move on.
And yes, I understand your viewpoint, and most likely I would have said the same thing to someone else.

I'm rather confused as to what you're saying the issue is, and I'm guessing sleep interruption.

Going back to an old version doesn't give me the data I need to advance the technology so it works. It is a free upgrade because you're paying for it with your reports. So you're not keeping up your end of the bargain here. Besides, you didn't really give it much of a chance, either, with only a week of use. I understand that life requires you to be functional, but again, you get it as a free upgrade because I get feedback on each new release. The less feedback I get, the longer the process takes. So you tapping out after a week, and saying, "Yeah, I know it's resistance, but **** it." only tells me that you apparently can't handle the job. It doesn't help, or tell me anything else except to confirm what I have been saying for a while now, which is, as we get close to finished, we will have only two options: run away or execute. So you're not helping me develop this thing, you're just reinforcing that we are close.

FRM is possibly the most ridiculous challenge any one person could have undertaken. I need feedback. Lots of feedback.
And Im giving you the feedback. I'm saying that the previous version was best ever that I have run. And the new version is not. And I think that the new restful sleep addition is responsible. It creates this roadblock that subc does not know how to overcome ... In one hand program wants you to process all the fears and get rid of them but the addition is basically puting chains on you, so the brain can't run freely. A good analogy would be to ask a person to relax while they are in the gym lifting a heavy bar. And yes, this my personal experience, other people may have different ones. I think that this is a best feedback that you can get, if you only want one that supports your ideas and opinions and is positive , then you really don't want an actual feedback. So I can't give you feedback of the new version of dmsi, when it does not execute, as much as I wanted to. The change was clear as a day when going from previous to new one. You can say that the week is not enough, but the 3.3 didn't need any time at all, started working during tid already. Question for you, is why should I wait for the miracle, that may or may not happen, if there is a version that works just fine.

Okay, so I think in part we have a miscommunication. Please explain to me why you think the sleep adjustments are responsible for this when the sleep adjustments are only aimed at causing you to sleep through whatever you're working on while listening. It's not trying to get you to relax and be tense at the same time, it's trying to get you to deal with your fears in ways that are easy and stress free, and at the same time, stay asleep.

Second, the program doesn't self execute. You execute it or you don't. If you do or don't is your choice. The only difference between FRM 4.1 and 4.4 is the sleep module, how much easier it tries to make the process, and the amount of power behind the instructions. This would mean that your entire issue is with the amount of power behind it. You're fighting "going that fast" to the goal and giving yourself a free pass by personifying the program as being the one who executes or not.

Look, I see your point of view, that 3.3 seems better because it is more readily executed. But 3.3 failed to get everyone else onboard, and I changed it. Now I need to know how it works for people like you in the longer run. Not just a week. Because if you're fighting 4.4, then you probably weren't fully executing 4.1.

Your feedback amounts to, "I don't want to use the new version because I don't like it. It expects more of me than the last version did, and I don't like what it's trying to get me to do." That isn't what I need to know. What I need to know is, how does it affect that reaction after 2, 3, 4, 6, 8 weeks of use?

Once again...

The agreement is, you pay once, and I work for feedback until it's right. But that feedback has to be the feedback I need to get to advance the program. Not "Last version was easier, you should stop there, and I'm going back to it."

To explain you better my choices.... There are things that go way beyond what anyone's subc is capable of. There's a natural pace for things to happen and when you try to force things with faster and more powerful, you'll set youself up to negative... You can buy a Ferrari and push down the pedal and most likely you end up in a ditch somewhere, when you aren't trained enough to handle it. It's the same thing with dmsi. You like to talk about cycles... Negative and positive, and how they are out of your control... In a sense they are, but same time you are the one who is creating them aswell, by forcing things happen when it's not the right time jet. 3.3 seems to tap into this natural pace for me and I'm sticking with 3.3. And I can give you an update if 16 weeks for example. And when I know that I'm done with it I will make a change to the new version or whatever is available at the time. Right now, all the "signs" that I got, told me that it is not the right time.
Hello Shannon,

There is something i want to discuss,
I have seen the Life Tune Up 5.5G Description, and i see there is a sentence "Your Sense of Self Worth", in the self esteem area,
I just want to ask something about this idea,

Is this one ( Your Sense of Self Worth ) going to make me to be a person that when, "People of my environment mock me, ignore me, neglect me,
I am going to be a person that is going to be so angry because i think that myself is prestige and need to be valued"

Is that scenario going to happen?

Thank you,
Diana
(02-08-2019, 01:59 AM)Diana Wrote: [ -> ]Hello Shannon,

There is something i want to discuss,
I have seen the Life Tune Up 5.5G Description, and i see there is a sentence "Your Sense of Self Worth", in the self esteem area,
I just want to ask something about this idea,

Is this one ( Your Sense of Self Worth ) going to make me to be a person that when, "People of my environment mock me, ignore me, neglect me,
I am going to be a person that is going to be so angry because i think that myself is prestige and need to be valued"

Is that scenario going to happen?

Thank you,
Diana

Not Shannon, but I will surmise, based on my experiences with his subliminals:

It won't. This scenario does not represent an actual sense of self-worth, but more of an egotistic/narcissistic reaction - which is directly the result of a *lack* of self-worth. Modern psychology calls such a scenario "vulnerable narcissism".

The program also features "ego-balancing" which is a tool to counteract this particular scenario, too. Smile

Granted, depending on the user's personality, personal experiences, etc., it may appear to be so for a short while, but in the end, with an increase in actual sense of self-worth, would only be temporary - and given the effectiveness of Shannon's subliminal programs, for a very, very short period of time, I'd wager.
(02-07-2019, 09:28 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Is E3 going to have FRM in it?

Also, I'm wondering what is the possibility of you combining E3 and Self-Esteem into one program, seeing as they are so closely related and that E2 had "Self esteem/respect/self worth and validity enhancement" modules in it already? I don't want to do LTU yet because I can't afford it, and also cuz I want to be able to focus on purely the E3 H&C and Self-Esteem's deep healing.

I would I guess be down to do both right after another, but why not have the ability to just do both in one since they are so related?

E3 will have E2's script, upgraded to modern standards and enhanced with some new scripting, plus Self Esteem. No worries.
(02-08-2019, 12:52 AM)Username Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2019, 05:30 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2019, 01:13 AM)Username Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-05-2019, 03:08 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-04-2019, 11:54 PM)Username Wrote: [ -> ]I think it has to do with the additions, that consider sleep. Just like you can't stay still and run at the same time, so if it takes few nights of restless sleep to process some stuff, I don't mind. There are fundamental rules to life and reality, that you can't change... Gravity still works, no matter what your limiting beliefs are. Same way, if there is some heavy stuff to work through, you can't just snip your fingers and get it over with. If you want to get from point A to point B, at one point you have to take those steps. But most people still choose to wait for the teleportatation to be invented, so they wouldn't have to. I have had a week of nice and peaceful sleep, and now it's time to move on.
And yes, I understand your viewpoint, and most likely I would have said the same thing to someone else.

I'm rather confused as to what you're saying the issue is, and I'm guessing sleep interruption.

Going back to an old version doesn't give me the data I need to advance the technology so it works. It is a free upgrade because you're paying for it with your reports. So you're not keeping up your end of the bargain here. Besides, you didn't really give it much of a chance, either, with only a week of use. I understand that life requires you to be functional, but again, you get it as a free upgrade because I get feedback on each new release. The less feedback I get, the longer the process takes. So you tapping out after a week, and saying, "Yeah, I know it's resistance, but **** it." only tells me that you apparently can't handle the job. It doesn't help, or tell me anything else except to confirm what I have been saying for a while now, which is, as we get close to finished, we will have only two options: run away or execute. So you're not helping me develop this thing, you're just reinforcing that we are close.

FRM is possibly the most ridiculous challenge any one person could have undertaken. I need feedback. Lots of feedback.
And Im giving you the feedback. I'm saying that the previous version was best ever that I have run. And the new version is not. And I think that the new restful sleep addition is responsible. It creates this roadblock that subc does not know how to overcome ... In one hand program wants you to process all the fears and get rid of them but the addition is basically puting chains on you, so the brain can't run freely. A good analogy would be to ask a person to relax while they are in the gym lifting a heavy bar. And yes, this my personal experience, other people may have different ones. I think that this is a best feedback that you can get, if you only want one that supports your ideas and opinions and is positive , then you really don't want an actual feedback. So I can't give you feedback of the new version of dmsi, when it does not execute, as much as I wanted to. The change was clear as a day when going from previous to new one. You can say that the week is not enough, but the 3.3 didn't need any time at all, started working during tid already. Question for you, is why should I wait for the miracle, that may or may not happen, if there is a version that works just fine.

Okay, so I think in part we have a miscommunication. Please explain to me why you think the sleep adjustments are responsible for this when the sleep adjustments are only aimed at causing you to sleep through whatever you're working on while listening. It's not trying to get you to relax and be tense at the same time, it's trying to get you to deal with your fears in ways that are easy and stress free, and at the same time, stay asleep.

Second, the program doesn't self execute. You execute it or you don't. If you do or don't is your choice. The only difference between FRM 4.1 and 4.4 is the sleep module, how much easier it tries to make the process, and the amount of power behind the instructions. This would mean that your entire issue is with the amount of power behind it. You're fighting "going that fast" to the goal and giving yourself a free pass by personifying the program as being the one who executes or not.

Look, I see your point of view, that 3.3 seems better because it is more readily executed. But 3.3 failed to get everyone else onboard, and I changed it. Now I need to know how it works for people like you in the longer run. Not just a week. Because if you're fighting 4.4, then you probably weren't fully executing 4.1.

Your feedback amounts to, "I don't want to use the new version because I don't like it. It expects more of me than the last version did, and I don't like what it's trying to get me to do." That isn't what I need to know. What I need to know is, how does it affect that reaction after 2, 3, 4, 6, 8 weeks of use?

Once again...

The agreement is, you pay once, and I work for feedback until it's right. But that feedback has to be the feedback I need to get to advance the program. Not "Last version was easier, you should stop there, and I'm going back to it."

To explain you better my choices.... There are things that go way beyond what anyone's subc is capable of. There's a natural pace for things to happen and when you try to force things with faster and more powerful, you'll set youself up to negative... You can buy a Ferrari and push down the pedal and most likely you end up in a ditch somewhere, when you aren't trained enough to handle it. It's the same thing with dmsi. You like to talk about cycles... Negative and positive, and how they are out of your control... In a sense they are, but same time you are the one who is creating them aswell, by forcing things happen when it's not the right time jet. 3.3 seems to tap into this natural pace for me and I'm sticking with 3.3. And I can give you an update if 16 weeks for example. And when I know that I'm done with it I will make a change to the new version or whatever is available at the time. Right now, all the "signs" that I got, told me that it is not the right time.

While I have been developing subliminals and learning how to script them, I discovered something that makes it possible, and indeed very likely, that what you are experiencing is not "it's too fast to be possible", but "I really don't want to do it, so I'll convince my conscious self that it's too fast to be possible".

But you do your thing.
(02-08-2019, 01:59 AM)Diana Wrote: [ -> ]Hello Shannon,

There is something i want to discuss,
I have seen the Life Tune Up 5.5G Description, and i see there is a sentence "Your Sense of Self Worth", in the self esteem area,
I just want to ask something about this idea,

Is this one ( Your Sense of Self Worth ) going to make me to be a person that when, "People of my environment mock me, ignore me, neglect me,
I am going to be a person that is going to be so angry because i think that myself is prestige and need to be valued"

Is that scenario going to happen?

Thank you,
Diana

1. Genuine self worth doesn't come from the opinions of others, and it does not arise from the ego of the self. It comes from within the self, and it renders the opinions of others concerning your self worth irrelevant when it is present and developed; but it has nothing to do with the ego. Therefore, the ego does not participate in action or reaction once true self worth is present and developed. Others can disagree, mock you, etc. but your sense of self worth is not derived from their beliefs, choices, actions, attitudes, and therefore those things have no impact on it.
2. There is an ego balancer. It isn't necessary for this particular thing, but it is present to help balance some other things. If this were to be an issue, it would balance that as well.
(02-08-2019, 07:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 09:28 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Is E3 going to have FRM in it?

Also, I'm wondering what is the possibility of you combining E3 and Self-Esteem into one program, seeing as they are so closely related and that E2 had "Self esteem/respect/self worth and validity enhancement" modules in it already? I don't want to do LTU yet because I can't afford it, and also cuz I want to be able to focus on purely the E3 H&C and Self-Esteem's deep healing.

I would I guess be down to do both right after another, but why not have the ability to just do both in one since they are so related?

E3 will have E2's script, upgraded to modern standards and enhanced with some new scripting, plus Self Esteem. No worries.

Awesome !!!
(02-08-2019, 07:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 09:28 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Is E3 going to have FRM in it?

Also, I'm wondering what is the possibility of you combining E3 and Self-Esteem into one program, seeing as they are so closely related and that E2 had "Self esteem/respect/self worth and validity enhancement" modules in it already? I don't want to do LTU yet because I can't afford it, and also cuz I want to be able to focus on purely the E3 H&C and Self-Esteem's deep healing.

I would I guess be down to do both right after another, but why not have the ability to just do both in one since they are so related?

E3 will have E2's script, upgraded to modern standards and enhanced with some new scripting, plus Self Esteem. No worries.

Do you mean the actual Self-Esteem program integrated into E3 and upgraded with new tech? Or just modules pertaining to self-esteem improvement?
For DMSI 3.3.1v & Question for Shannon

Has anyone else noticed that on DMSI now that you turned into someone who is more caring?

For some reason, I am getting a genuine caring feeling for these girls that are in my life. Some I have laid some are just girls I've talked to for some time and some are just friends... But for some reason, I can feel it in my heart that I am feeling happy that I care about their well-being.

This description is one type of my personality but I think before it does not come out as often is due to fear of actually caring may turn the girls away. So I am guessing FRM might dissolve some of those fears so this side of my personality is surfacing more?

This feeling feels freer like I am just being myself. But I am not sure how what I described is helping me developing the maximizing sexual irresistibility side?
(02-08-2019, 10:28 AM)FluffyBunny Wrote: [ -> ]For DMSI 3.3.1v & Question for Shannon

Has anyone else noticed that on DMSI now that you turned into someone who is more caring?

For some reason, I am getting a genuine caring feeling for these girls that are in my life. Some I have laid some are just girls I've talked to for some time and some are just friends... But for some reason, I can feel it in my heart that I am feeling happy that I care about their well-being.

This description is one type of my personality but I think before it does not come out as often is due to fear of actually caring may turn the girls away. So I am guessing FRM might dissolve some of those fears so this side of my personality is surfacing more?

This feeling feels freer like I am just being myself. But I am not sure how what I described is helping me developing the maximizing sexual irresistibility side?

I think a guy that can show genuine care and kindness to woman without coming from a place of neediness is actually pretty attractive to woman. Theres not many guys out there like that. Typically the caring and being nice part stems from a place of neediness, acting in that way to try to get sex/ validation from them, which is why it repels girls, not the act itself. Its all about the place its coming from. So i actually think that is pretty cool that you are feeling that way, and think it will not only lead to you having more sexual opportunities, but also being a happier, more free, and better version of yourself as well!
(02-08-2019, 09:31 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2019, 07:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 09:28 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Is E3 going to have FRM in it?

Also, I'm wondering what is the possibility of you combining E3 and Self-Esteem into one program, seeing as they are so closely related and that E2 had "Self esteem/respect/self worth and validity enhancement" modules in it already? I don't want to do LTU yet because I can't afford it, and also cuz I want to be able to focus on purely the E3 H&C and Self-Esteem's deep healing.

I would I guess be down to do both right after another, but why not have the ability to just do both in one since they are so related?

E3 will have E2's script, upgraded to modern standards and enhanced with some new scripting, plus Self Esteem. No worries.

Do you mean the actual Self-Esteem program integrated into E3 and upgraded with new tech? Or just modules pertaining to self-esteem improvement?

The former.
(02-08-2019, 12:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2019, 09:31 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2019, 07:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 09:28 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Is E3 going to have FRM in it?

Also, I'm wondering what is the possibility of you combining E3 and Self-Esteem into one program, seeing as they are so closely related and that E2 had "Self esteem/respect/self worth and validity enhancement" modules in it already? I don't want to do LTU yet because I can't afford it, and also cuz I want to be able to focus on purely the E3 H&C and Self-Esteem's deep healing.

I would I guess be down to do both right after another, but why not have the ability to just do both in one since they are so related?

E3 will have E2's script, upgraded to modern standards and enhanced with some new scripting, plus Self Esteem. No worries.

Do you mean the actual Self-Esteem program integrated into E3 and upgraded with new tech? Or just modules pertaining to self-esteem improvement?

The former.

Awesome. E3's gonna be a shaker and da money maker!!
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