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Hi Shannon i noticed you suggested to not skip a day and do 6 loops hybrid for another person earlier, just wondering since im not noticing much change internally or externally, even though some changes may be happening its hard to see them. The hair colour change is different though and only dmsi can account for that i think since only happened recently.

I just got back from a cruise unfortunately being a longer cruise many my age wernt around, but the ones that were i wasnt able to approach and they seemed to have no intention to approach to talk to me either.

Back in gym today plenty around but no looks, i also can still look at porn easily even if dont actually watch much. Confidence around women just isnt there.

I did 7 loops daily on masked for last 14 days and today is day off, thinking of now trying hybrid version on 3.2b which is what i just completed in masked format and see if make any progress. Should i still take a day rest after each 14 days or just stay on 3.2b everyday for a while and maybe go onto 3.2a after 2 cycles each time.

Thanks

(06-18-2018, 01:58 PM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]Touching on Premature Ejaculation...

With all this semen retention,

All this semen retention? How many of you are not still masturbating? By the sounds of it, not a lot.

Quote:I can imagine when we do start getting sex, it is obviously going to feel super duper fantastical amazing and we will be busting all kinds of nuts super fast at maximum pleasure, especially if we start getting seduced next year haha!

You're assuming things that set you up for expectations which may generate premature ejaculation as a result. The speed at which you orgasm is still regulated in part by the subconscious, as is the amount of pleasure you experience. That is why the sexual performance enhancer module exists.

Quote:Does this "Performance enhancement" in DMSI touch on Premature Ejaculation? Like...so we can go as long as we want, have conscious control over when we ejaculate? and prevents us from using the instructions in DMSI to take pills instead of doing it naturally?

By definition, does your best performance include "premature ejaculation"? That module is designed to work you up to your best performance. It causes you to experience, when you execute, improvements that your subconscious can agree with (instead of going from zero to hero instantly, that's usually too much of a jump) and then builds on each improvement. It does nothing to prevent you from taking pills.

(06-19-2018, 04:26 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 01:58 PM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]Touching on Premature Ejaculation...

With all this semen retention,

All this semen retention? How many of you are not still masturbating? By the sounds of it, not a lot.

I, for one, am not.

By the by, this reminds me of something you'll be pleased to hear - when I was doing 4 loops of ver. B, I did experience something of a wet dream, and one part of my subconscious was trying to find release through ejaculating in my sleep, while another part acted to prevent this from happening and won out. So I did not ejaculate in my sleep. I woke up soon after, though - it was happening right as I was about to wake up, hence I can remember what was going on in my mind at the time.

(06-18-2018, 02:27 PM)DarkPlouf Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 09:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 07:42 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I have switched over to decaf Tea, mostly. I have one normal Tea in the morning, but I am sure it won't be that hard to twitch over that one cup, aswell.

Shannon, when you can get around to it any chance of a Deep Gratitude and Appreciation focusfire sub?

When I can get a round tuit, sure.

Shannon what was you experience with a gratitude lifestyle if you had any ?
Do you have any conviction in the usefulness of consciously being grateful as much as possible?

A gratitude lifestyle didn't bring much to my life when I adopted it. Usually with LOA techniques I can see reality shifting but with gratitude I couldn't tell if life was improving at all. I went on for like, 2+ months with that.
I feel like gratitude is a consequence of a blissful state rather than one of possible trigger of that said state.
So I'm curious if you had any evidence (at least from experience) of the benefits of an attitude of gratitude.

Gratitude only works when it's genuine. Genuine gratitude is its own reward, and you won't be looking for other things in response to it. Trying to generate gratitude and then look for something else to happen as a result is not really being grateful.

Gratitude is a result of being grateful, genuinely grateful of and appreciating, what is in some direction. It is not a consequence of a blissful state, it is a blissful state. Gratitude is the end result of genuine appreciation. You can't fake it and then expect things to happen. You can't do it on the surface and expect things to change. You have to be genuinely appreciative and genuinely grateful. "Doing it for two months" doesn't happen when you're doing it right, it becomes a default state.

It - appreciation and gratitude - is a choice, yes, but the difference between what you were probably doing and doing it the right way is that the right way is not trying to get something else as a result. Genuine appreciation is not a tool to get gratitude, but it usually naturally results in genuine gratitude. Likewise, genuine gratitude is not a tool to get something else, but it frequently results in many other things, such as an increase in genuine contentment, success, happiness, etc.

Stop trying to get something as a result of being grateful. The end goal should be gratitude. The rest will happen naturally and automatically as a consequence of being genuinely grateful.

And yes, I have a lot of experience with a lifestyle that includes genuine gratitude. It changed my whole life around. It's also very useful for combating negative thinking, anger, frustration and depression.

(06-18-2018, 03:36 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 03:32 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 11:31 AM)Adrien Silva Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-17-2018, 07:42 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-17-2018, 06:46 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Hey @Shannon

A quick one, I recall you said in the past somewhere that there are yet so many many things to add to DMSI, that werent even included in the 3.3.... I think you said somewhere in the region of over 100 things are on the list.

Is it possible (if you deem it wise) to add as much as you can into 3.3, even if that means theres a delay on its release?

and for myself anything to help me execute ALOT more than just no fapping please lol

thanks alot in advance buddy!!

3.3 has a lot of things to add, but the things that are left to add are not all going in for 3.3. 3.3 is primarily aimed at adjusting the aura, improving the powering of the program, and there will be some additions designed to help overcome resistance.

3.4 is going to be where I try to finish adding all I can add at the time it's built, and polishing it all up. If 6G exists before 3.4, then 3.4 will be built on the 6G skeleton script. If not, I may choose to make a 4.0 based on that. Currently I would prefer to just retire the project after 3.4 and move on to other things.

However, any version of DMSI built after the 3.x-Final will not be a free upgrade. You will pay full price for it, and it will not be priced at what it currently goes for a copy anymore at that point. If it is successful enough to be worth extending beyond 3.4, the price will go up.

3.3 will not be on a deadline, and neither will anything else. We will fit what we can fit into 3.4 3.3 according to the rough schedule I have in mind for what to do at each release so I know what and how to move forward in the best way possible.

What you going to do if dmsi 3.4 final doesn't work for people?

Most likely, those for whom it does not achieve the design goal for, who want it, will get a refund in the form of a gift certificate.

I'm not expecting to need to issue a lot of those.

What are the chances that DSMI will not achieve design by for majority of users by 3.4 and/ or in 6G?

I am told that it will achieve the design goal for the vast majority of users in its final version. I was even given a specific percentage. How accurate that is, I don't know yet. We will have to wait and see. I personally do not believe that there will be very many left at the end who have failed to achieve thew design goal of the program, if they use it correctly. A small handful, at most.

(06-19-2018, 04:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 03:36 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 03:32 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 11:31 AM)Adrien Silva Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-17-2018, 07:42 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]3.3 has a lot of things to add, but the things that are left to add are not all going in for 3.3. 3.3 is primarily aimed at adjusting the aura, improving the powering of the program, and there will be some additions designed to help overcome resistance.

3.4 is going to be where I try to finish adding all I can add at the time it's built, and polishing it all up. If 6G exists before 3.4, then 3.4 will be built on the 6G skeleton script. If not, I may choose to make a 4.0 based on that. Currently I would prefer to just retire the project after 3.4 and move on to other things.

However, any version of DMSI built after the 3.x-Final will not be a free upgrade. You will pay full price for it, and it will not be priced at what it currently goes for a copy anymore at that point. If it is successful enough to be worth extending beyond 3.4, the price will go up.

3.3 will not be on a deadline, and neither will anything else. We will fit what we can fit into 3.4 3.3 according to the rough schedule I have in mind for what to do at each release so I know what and how to move forward in the best way possible.

What you going to do if dmsi 3.4 final doesn't work for people?

Most likely, those for whom it does not achieve the design goal for, who want it, will get a refund in the form of a gift certificate.

I'm not expecting to need to issue a lot of those.

What are the chances that DSMI will not achieve design by for majority of users by 3.4 and/ or in 6G?

I am told that it will achieve the design goal for the vast majority of users in its final version. I was even given a specific percentage. How accurate that is, I don't know yet. We will have to wait and see. I personally do not believe that there will be very many left at the end who have failed to achieve thew design goal of the program, if they use it correctly. A small handful, at most.

Oh ok cool. So you will likely move on to newer things after 3.4?

(06-19-2018, 04:26 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 01:58 PM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]Touching on Premature Ejaculation...

With all this semen retention,

All this semen retention? How many of you are not still masturbating? By the sounds of it, not a lot.

Quote:I can imagine when we do start getting sex, it is obviously going to feel super duper fantastical amazing and we will be busting all kinds of nuts super fast at maximum pleasure, especially if we start getting seduced next year haha!

You're assuming things that set you up for expectations which may generate premature ejaculation as a result. The speed at which you orgasm is still regulated in part by the subconscious, as is the amount of pleasure you experience. That is why the sexual performance enhancer module exists.

Quote:Does this "Performance enhancement" in DMSI touch on Premature Ejaculation? Like...so we can go as long as we want, have conscious control over when we ejaculate? and prevents us from using the instructions in DMSI to take pills instead of doing it naturally?

By definition, does your best performance include "premature ejaculation"? That module is designed to work you up to your best performance. It causes you to experience, when you execute, improvements that your subconscious can agree with (instead of going from zero to hero instantly, that's usually too much of a jump) and then builds on each improvement. It does nothing to prevent you from taking pills.

When I said about pills, I meant as a form of resistance to the Performance Enhancement, so instead of subconsciously doing it naturally...you use Viagra instead. Which is not ideal as it has alot of side effects, that are not worth the hassle. Happened to me on DMSI 3.1.

All this semen retention, I am speaking about me really, I haven't released in 4 weeks and I am really starting to FEEL the frustration. My mind even thought about contacting my ex because I am horny, it has happened before, I contacted her and then released my self after and then wondered why I contacted her lol. The sexual desire does not always make you think right....it's better to release then make decisions, especially in this case. I haven't done anything crazy yet, as I learn from the past. But I would rather release than think with my sausage.

Think I am either feeling resistance or healing or clearing, as last few days, especially last night I have been feeling alone. Pre DMSI I was OK with being alone (Don't want/need friends), even felt I was tough because I could handle being alone....now I seem to feel actually alone, it's like a sudden realization that I am actually alone.

(06-19-2018, 04:11 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon i noticed you suggested to not skip a day and do 6 loops hybrid for another person earlier, just wondering since im not noticing much change internally or externally, even though some changes may be happening its hard to see them. The hair colour change is different though and only dmsi can account for that i think since only happened recently.

There are always reasons and options that are not obvious. There are doubtless other possible explanations.

Quote:I just got back from a cruise unfortunately being a longer cruise many my age wernt around, but the ones that were i wasnt able to approach and they seemed to have no intention to approach to talk to me either.

Back in gym today plenty around but no looks, i also can still look at porn easily even if dont actually watch much. Confidence around women just isnt there.

I did 7 loops daily on masked for last 14 days and today is day off, thinking of now trying hybrid version on 3.2b which is what i just completed in masked format and see if make any progress. Should i still take a day rest after each 14 days or just stay on 3.2b everyday for a while and maybe go onto 3.2a after 2 cycles each time.

Thanks

If you're not seeing results with "just execute mode" (B), you should be using "Heal and clear whatever is preventing execution mode" (A).

If you haven't received specific instructions from me to deviate from the instructions, then don't. The only exception is that I have opened it up for you guys to use whatever number of loops you like.

(06-19-2018, 04:33 AM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-19-2018, 04:26 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 01:58 PM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]Touching on Premature Ejaculation...

With all this semen retention,

All this semen retention? How many of you are not still masturbating? By the sounds of it, not a lot.

I, for one, am not.

I, for two, am not either

The whole time I've been on DMSI (since early November 2017), I masturbated only twice...not with my hand though.

Thanks will go back to 3.2a for 7 loops see how it goes i was using 3.2a for a while with not much and did a run of 7 days at 7 loops without any change then tried 3.2b but will stay on 3.2a for a while see if anything happens.

(06-19-2018, 04:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 03:36 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 03:32 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 11:31 AM)Adrien Silva Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-17-2018, 07:42 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]3.3 has a lot of things to add, but the things that are left to add are not all going in for 3.3. 3.3 is primarily aimed at adjusting the aura, improving the powering of the program, and there will be some additions designed to help overcome resistance.

3.4 is going to be where I try to finish adding all I can add at the time it's built, and polishing it all up. If 6G exists before 3.4, then 3.4 will be built on the 6G skeleton script. If not, I may choose to make a 4.0 based on that. Currently I would prefer to just retire the project after 3.4 and move on to other things.

However, any version of DMSI built after the 3.x-Final will not be a free upgrade. You will pay full price for it, and it will not be priced at what it currently goes for a copy anymore at that point. If it is successful enough to be worth extending beyond 3.4, the price will go up.

3.3 will not be on a deadline, and neither will anything else. We will fit what we can fit into 3.4 3.3 according to the rough schedule I have in mind for what to do at each release so I know what and how to move forward in the best way possible.

What you going to do if dmsi 3.4 final doesn't work for people?

Most likely, those for whom it does not achieve the design goal for, who want it, will get a refund in the form of a gift certificate.

I'm not expecting to need to issue a lot of those.

What are the chances that DSMI will not achieve design by for majority of users by 3.4 and/ or in 6G?

I am told that it will achieve the design goal for the vast majority of users in its final version. I was even given a specific percentage. How accurate that is, I don't know yet. We will have to wait and see. I personally do not believe that there will be very many left at the end who have failed to achieve thew design goal of the program, if they use it correctly. A small handful, at most.

By final version, do you mean 3.4 or 4.0 and beyond?

Also, would DMSI help me tap into my language skill? I'm asking because I speak English as a second language coupled with the fact that I'm a stutterer. Sometimes, it's hard for me to relate to not only girls but with people too on a deeper level as I don't know what to talk about or my mind shuts me down entirely.

If DMSI helps us overcome all the issues that are preventing us from being sexually irresistible, how much time will it take to destroy them even for the most resisting guys like me and Catman? I'm 31 and Catman is also over 30. Time is not endless and we can't spend our lives without sex.

(06-18-2018, 04:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 04:30 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Day 23 7 loops

Had a dream i was shaving myself in the mirror
WTF ? Not clear what thats means.

No external results so far

This dream likely indicates that you are subconsciously "grooming yourself" to prepare and be ready for the results you are trying to achieve.

It may also indicate that you are outgrowing your fear of your father, as you seem to relate to him from the point of view of a child, whereas it is a man who shaves, not a child.

Shaving can also indicate removing the unwanted about yourself.

I have also experienced dreams where I am shaving myself- although this was like 2-3 months ago when I still had a full beard so it made more sense then.

I recently got the urge to go clean shaven and have shaved off my beard, so I guess it was a build up of sorts.

(06-12-2018, 10:43 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-12-2018, 03:08 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, thought I would give a kind of report on things. Will make it short since i'm currently in vacation in the philippines and i'm on a tablet at the moment. I will report on what I how I might have been resisting in ordee to improve things. I had to stop the program due the main reason I will explain though I think I may have gotten a late manifestation after not using it for a while.

The main thing my mind seemed to use to resist was that same attitude of I don't care but it seemed to be worst than I thought. It seemed to evolve into straight up nihilism. "I don't care, nothing matters, its all unimportant". It wasn't just towards women either it was towarda everyrhing and it started to affect my motivation towards anything I needed to get accomplished which is bad since I currently need to search for a new job once I get back. So pretty much the main way it seemed to resist was through complete nihilism and no motivation towards anything. Not sure if this nihilism might be in relation with the idea that I will die if I execute the script.

Another smaller thing that is getting annoying is my inability to "finish" when actually having sex. It's like I will get close to finishing multiple times but every time its like some old program in my mind will come online and totally shut off any pleasure I was feeling at the moment or reset me back to 0 just when I was about to reach 100% if that makes sense. I dont know what is causing this. Also I noticed I don't seem to be able to even be close to finishing if i'm just ***** a chick. Its like I don't have enough sensitivity from the regular act to be pushed over the edge. Though I did notice, on previous versions though not on this one, that whenever I was taking Aniracetam , a nootropic, I seemed to be able to finish even with just intercorse. Aniracetam is known to reduce stress, depression and cause a kind of relaxed feeling. Not sure if that means my subconscious is also highly resisting the anti anxiety and depression scripting.

Anyway thought I would report on that for now.

Very interesting report, thank you. Do you have any idea what is so scary to your subconscious that this would be a way it would react? I'm taking it past hurts?

It would seem the wall is working for you, but your subconscious found and maximally capitalized on the IDGAF loophole.

Hey Shannon, sorry for the long wait for a reply. I do think I have some important info though after dealing with my late manisfestation and thinking about your question. I think this experience as revealed a lot to me and maybe showed me where a lot of this resistance is coming from. I'm still in the philippines right now and typing from a tablet, sorry for any typos, so I will keep this short and give you a more detailed report when I get back.

As I mentioned before I did get a late manisfestation and got in a relationship for a while, kind of pushed her away a bit so don't know where things are now. I think my reaction to it probably more clearly defined my issues for me. She was very affectionate, loving , very open and honest with her feelings. Seemed to have a high sex drive as. She never seemed to deny me or resist me when I wanted sex which weirdly when she wanted it more than me I stopped wanting it as much and not to mention the fact that some subconscious belief kept me from enjoying. I was very happy with being shown lots of love and loving in return at first but then something in me just kept growing. This sense of fear of being so emotionally and physically close to some one.

After some thought I think I realized where this comes from. In my younger years I was pratically isolated and neglected by my own family. Because of this I never really was close emotionally or physically to anyone. My siblings wanted nothing to do with me and my mother was a career feminist type so she didn't have time for that. My step father worked night shifts and slept most of the day. The only time so called friends wanted anything to do with me most of the time was when they wanted something, basically to use me. Since I think I never had the normal experiences of being in close relationships I find myself feeling very uncomfortable being in them and down right fearful.

Part of the fears if I could list them seem to be

-fear of being emotionally, physically close to someone allows them to affect me too much emotionally

- they will have power over me if I let them in (seems to be based on neglect and pass hurts)

-seem to have low toleration for the intense emotions as relationship entails.

- fear of related to above of lossing control over "me" having control over how I feel.

From realizing this I noticed that my intense need for control and not being told what to do seems to stim from my early enviroment of isolation and neglect where it was only me so only "I" had control over myself. So being in a different situation where I need to give up some of that control over myself to someone in any type of close relationship scares the shit out of me. It also annoyed and aggitated me when I was with the girl and she could make me feel things , whether good or negative. The fear of allowing someone power over me as I said seems to come from past hurts and abuse from people I have opened up to before. I just noticed that all my attempts at close relations before usually followed the same I had with my relatives. I get feelings but the chick just straights up rejects me or tries to use me. Or sometimes I've realized I will self sabotage the thing myself because its getting to emotionally close, like this first real relationship I just had.

Anyway, I though I would shared that. I known there is a module or something that subconsciously trains you to help achieve the goals of the program. Would this perhaps help with training the person to be comfortable being physically/emotionally close to a person, not freak out doing so, and perhaps help them deal with the emotions that are part of having a short or long term relationship with a woman?

Anyway, I hope this helps in development somehow especially for people who have troubles being in close relationships with people.

(06-19-2018, 04:34 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 02:27 PM)DarkPlouf Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 09:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2018, 07:42 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I have switched over to decaf Tea, mostly. I have one normal Tea in the morning, but I am sure it won't be that hard to twitch over that one cup, aswell.

Shannon, when you can get around to it any chance of a Deep Gratitude and Appreciation focusfire sub?

When I can get a round tuit, sure.

Shannon what was you experience with a gratitude lifestyle if you had any ?
Do you have any conviction in the usefulness of consciously being grateful as much as possible?

A gratitude lifestyle didn't bring much to my life when I adopted it. Usually with LOA techniques I can see reality shifting but with gratitude I couldn't tell if life was improving at all. I went on for like, 2+ months with that.
I feel like gratitude is a consequence of a blissful state rather than one of possible trigger of that said state.
So I'm curious if you had any evidence (at least from experience) of the benefits of an attitude of gratitude.

Gratitude only works when it's genuine. Genuine gratitude is its own reward, and you won't be looking for other things in response to it. Trying to generate gratitude and then look for something else to happen as a result is not really being grateful.

Gratitude is a result of being grateful, genuinely grateful of and appreciating, what is in some direction. It is not a consequence of a blissful state, it is a blissful state. Gratitude is the end result of genuine appreciation. You can't fake it and then expect things to happen. You can't do it on the surface and expect things to change. You have to be genuinely appreciative and genuinely grateful. "Doing it for two months" doesn't happen when you're doing it right, it becomes a default state.

It - appreciation and gratitude - is a choice, yes, but the difference between what you were probably doing and doing it the right way is that the right way is not trying to get something else as a result. Genuine appreciation is not a tool to get gratitude, but it usually naturally results in genuine gratitude. Likewise, genuine gratitude is not a tool to get something else, but it frequently results in many other things, such as an increase in genuine contentment, success, happiness, etc.

Stop trying to get something as a result of being grateful. The end goal should be gratitude. The rest will happen naturally and automatically as a consequence of being genuinely grateful.

And yes, I have a lot of experience with a lifestyle that includes genuine gratitude. It changed my whole life around. It's also very useful for combating negative thinking, anger, frustration and depression.

Yes as I thought so... In fact I wrote carefully "consciously being grateful", because I know there's the genuine state which is totally effortless.
The way gratitude is taught by the new age movement is "fake it until you make it", which is what I tried.
What you said makes perfect sense and I agree.
Well in some instances faking work. But when it comes to gratitude, not so much it appears. Thanks for the input.
I still dwell in gratitude whenever I can as it generates positive emotions. That's better than nothing.

So to follow up with the suggestion yes that would be a good thing a gratitude sub. I am not a fan of having it as just a focus fire sub. It would however fits so well with PTPA, SE and such.
I think later when you have room you could make a "bundle" of these subs. Like for US + LM.