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Just want to say that I was going to work today and I think the FRM fired. I felt much better then normal, after 1 week into the program.
(12-18-2018, 03:15 PM)StridingStrider Wrote: [ -> ]Just want to say that I was going to work today and I think the FRM fired. I felt much better then normal, after 1 week into the program.

Can you describe this in more detail, please?
(12-18-2018, 03:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-18-2018, 03:15 PM)StridingStrider Wrote: [ -> ]Just want to say that I was going to work today and I think the FRM fired. I felt much better then normal, after 1 week into the program.

Can you describe this in more detail, please?

Sure. I was getting a lift to work, and thinking about the day ahead. Started getting anxiety and fear within myself. Arrive at work, walk through the door then I guess state shifting occurs, start smiling at people. Within a couple of minutes of closing the car door the fear and anxiety is pretty much gone.

Upon revision, I guess this was just the state shifting.
(12-15-2018, 01:41 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-15-2018, 10:58 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-15-2018, 09:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-14-2018, 09:38 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-14-2018, 09:32 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]That's been in the skeleton script for literally years now. It apparently does not work, at least so far. I have no idea why.

I think possible reason could be if sound is too low it may not reach the hair cells in the cochlear and if too loud perhaps will create the wrong signals in the hair cells due to over amplification leading to incoherent/incomprehensible instructions in the brain. Obviously you know best I just wonder if this could be the reason.

I can tell you definitively, you can hear and be affected by every volume level on your cell phone. The issue is that different volumes have different levels of impact and affect you at different levels of motivation. Too low, and you trigger activity that is too internal, or too easily ignored. Too loud, and you trigger either "Don't tell me what to do!".
The ideal volumes for very resistant personalities, on an android phone, depend on certain variables, but they strongly tend to be 7, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14 and 15. If I were you, knowing what I do about you, I would use a volume of 12/15, every time you use the program. Every time.

The goal isn't to be comfortable. It's to GET THE RESULTS. And in your case, something is going to have to be dealt with that may not necessarily be comfortable at first.

Stop doing everything in your power to run away and hide from this transition. It doesn't matter how subtlety you try to do it, if you're running away, you're running away.

Make the decision, do you want this result? If the answer is yes, then do whatever is necessary. If it's no, then stop trying.

If you said yes, I really do want to overcome procrastination, then do what is necessary. Use it according to the instructions. Use it at a volume that properly motivates you to achieve the results. Not one that you can ignore or resist.

At this point, you've done so much to resist this that I'm to the point that I'm not really interested in helping you anymore because you're not really interested in getting the results. And after taking a 10 day break, you obviously haven't used it according to the instructions, so you're really not even eligible for a refund anymore.

Make uppa you mind, eh? You're wasting your time and mine at this point. In the end, it's your business if you want to waste your time and your life procrastinating, but I will not waste mine. I have too much to accomplish.

Besides the 10days which I couldn't get 4hrs 43mins in those nights due to late nights esrly mornings and friends coming and going I haven't really done anything to run away.

When I said I had reduced the volume by 1 click you immediately went to the extreme and felt I went to 1 above nill. I had to correct you there politely and explain no I had simply gone down 1 level less to get a comfier volume. It was audible. It wasn't silent.

If you feel after 3 years of being here that no is time up the volume I shall do it but to suggest I am not prepared to is wrong and incorrect.

To suggest I'm running away by not wanting to up the volume is also incorrect. I have given valid reasons as to why I thought after 10 days I thought continue with the asrb after 3 years that's the information I had obtained. There isn't anything clearly written to suggest otherwise.

As soon as you informed me otherwise I immediately course corrected but nothing there had been lost as I listen at night and had all day to simply say ok I will listen and not have a break.

I am not avoiding anything. For 3 years you have said I fail to execute and it's my fault. I don't see how. I have listened and listened and listened.

I only now took 10days off accidentally due to circumstances where my social life and private life got extremely busy and chaotic as I approached Xmas vacations. Life does get in the way as do your cycles for you. I have yet always remained upbeat positive hopefully dignified and polite.

I won up the volume now but as I explained in my reasoning on my thread you have categorically been against upping the volume and to me in particular for 3 years.

Suddenly suggesting I do and for me to not reaffirm this is indeed what you want of me when for 3 years you haven't isn't a running away tactic it is seeking clarity.

We all have ups and downs but when I have been regimental than ever on umop and have tried to share as much data and still not get results I don't see how I am running away.

I'm still here I'm still seeking clarity and I'm still following your instructions albeit 10days where my cycle you could say had a way of obstructing my path.

My objective isn't to get a refund. I even put in my journal I missed 10days when I could have not and I also amended my total count days to reflect this.

When I was on mls e2 and even dmsi I didn't run away I simply have to work around the life I have where I have many demands upon me and my time... many of which I don't share here on the world wide web.

I'm not a child that has chosen to run away or to not get results.

I have listened continuously only missing 10days and prepared to restart 90days again if the 10days is a major issue but I repeat a refund isn't my goal...execution is.

If you cannot help me so be it but I'm dismayed at how you can switch so easily and yes now I'm annoyed but will keep my cool and manners as that's not why I'm here.

If you want to help me so be it but if I can't execute I can't execute and it's me thatslosing out not you.

I come here not to make friends or waste my time I come here to get benefit and help.

No offence intended I'm just annoyed.

Jake, I'm just getting tired of trying to help you and having you resort to various and ever increasing excuses to accomplish your supposed goal. You started off with just stonewalling, and you've moved to self deception, possibly including self delusion, and running away.

If you want to achieve the goal, you will do whatever it takes. People say what they want you to believe, but they always DO the truth. You can always know their true motive and goal by what they do.

And what you are doing is saying you want it, and then doing everything you can to self sabotage, while claiming you are helpless, and refusing to take responsibility for your choices, actions and results.

You're still trying to hide behind me and the sub to have me and the sub take responsibility for you.

The fact is, when you have a goal, you will do whatever it takes to achieve it. And whatever you have, whatever you are moving towards and whatever you are doing, that is what your real goal is.

What you have is 3 years of Types 1, 4, 5, 8 and 9 and possibly 6 resistance, and nothing to show for those three years but talk.

Now we have the program to the point that it probably will work, but you are derailing it. That actually means it probably will work if you actually use it properly. But I'm coming to the point that I don't think you will use it properly. I think that until you change your goal to overcoming procrastination, you will continue to do what you have always done and continue to get the results you have always gotten.

All you have to do is press play, for the right number of loops a day, for the right number of days on and then take a break of the right number of days before repeating.

I can't make it easier than that. You have to want it enough to actually do that.

If you think you're annoyed, you should try being in my shoes.

I only missed 10days over 80+ days of listening. Until which i haven't had any results so it's natural for me to feel despondent or bored however in this case circumstances got in my way. It happens. The other 70 odd days I've done nothing but adhere to the instructions.

Regarding arsb2 I've covered that already.

Regarding volume that's also been covered by me previously and since telling me to change the volume I have done and continue to do so.

Do you want me to restart the 90 days count?
(12-15-2018, 08:45 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-15-2018, 10:58 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-15-2018, 09:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-14-2018, 09:38 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-14-2018, 09:32 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]That's been in the skeleton script for literally years now. It apparently does not work, at least so far. I have no idea why.

I think possible reason could be if sound is too low it may not reach the hair cells in the cochlear and if too loud perhaps will create the wrong signals in the hair cells due to over amplification leading to incoherent/incomprehensible instructions in the brain. Obviously you know best I just wonder if this could be the reason.

I can tell you definitively, you can hear and be affected by every volume level on your cell phone. The issue is that different volumes have different levels of impact and affect you at different levels of motivation. Too low, and you trigger activity that is too internal, or too easily ignored. Too loud, and you trigger either "Don't tell me what to do!".
The ideal volumes for very resistant personalities, on an android phone, depend on certain variables, but they strongly tend to be 7, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14 and 15. If I were you, knowing what I do about you, I would use a volume of 12/15, every time you use the program. Every time.

The goal isn't to be comfortable. It's to GET THE RESULTS. And in your case, something is going to have to be dealt with that may not necessarily be comfortable at first.

Stop doing everything in your power to run away and hide from this transition. It doesn't matter how subtlety you try to do it, if you're running away, you're running away.

Make the decision, do you want this result? If the answer is yes, then do whatever is necessary. If it's no, then stop trying.

If you said yes, I really do want to overcome procrastination, then do what is necessary. Use it according to the instructions. Use it at a volume that properly motivates you to achieve the results. Not one that you can ignore or resist.

At this point, you've done so much to resist this that I'm to the point that I'm not really interested in helping you anymore because you're not really interested in getting the results. And after taking a 10 day break, you obviously haven't used it according to the instructions, so you're really not even eligible for a refund anymore.

Make uppa you mind, eh? You're wasting your time and mine at this point. In the end, it's your business if you want to waste your time and your life procrastinating, but I will not waste mine. I have too much to accomplish.

Besides the 10days which I couldn't get 4hrs 43mins in those nights due to late nights esrly mornings and friends coming and going I haven't really done anything to run away.

When I said I had reduced the volume by 1 click you immediately went to the extreme and felt I went to 1 above nill. I had to correct you there politely and explain no I had simply gone down 1 level less to get a comfier volume. It was audible. It wasn't silent.

If you feel after 3 years of being here that no is time up the volume I shall do it but to suggest I am not prepared to is wrong and incorrect.

To suggest I'm running away by not wanting to up the volume is also incorrect. I have given valid reasons as to why I thought after 10 days I thought continue with the asrb after 3 years that's the information I had obtained. There isn't anything clearly written to suggest otherwise.

As soon as you informed me otherwise I immediately course corrected but nothing there had been lost as I listen at night and had all day to simply say ok I will listen and not have a break.

I am not avoiding anything. For 3 years you have said I fail to execute and it's my fault. I don't see how. I have listened and listened and listened.

I only now took 10days off accidentally due to circumstances where my social life and private life got extremely busy and chaotic as I approached Xmas vacations. Life does get in the way as do your cycles for you. I have yet always remained upbeat positive hopefully dignified and polite.

I won up the volume now but as I explained in my reasoning on my thread you have categorically been against upping the volume and to me in particular for 3 years.

Suddenly suggesting I do and for me to not reaffirm this is indeed what you want of me when for 3 years you haven't isn't a running away tactic it is seeking clarity.

We all have ups and downs but when I have been regimental than ever on umop and have tried to share as much data and still not get results I don't see how I am running away.

I'm still here I'm still seeking clarity and I'm still following your instructions albeit 10days where my cycle you could say had a way of obstructing my path.

My objective isn't to get a refund. I even put in my journal I missed 10days when I could have not and I also amended my total count days to reflect this.

When I was on mls e2 and even dmsi I didn't run away I simply have to work around the life I have where I have many demands upon me and my time... many of which I don't share here on the world wide web.

I'm not a child that has chosen to run away or to not get results.

I have listened continuously only missing 10days and prepared to restart 90days again if the 10days is a major issue but I repeat a refund isn't my goal...execution is.

If you cannot help me so be it but I'm dismayed at how you can switch so easily and yes now I'm annoyed but will keep my cool and manners as that's not why I'm here.

If you want to help me so be it but if I can't execute I can't execute and it's me thatslosing out not you.

I come here not to make friends or waste my time I come here to get benefit and help.

No offence intended I'm just annoyed.

And whenever Shannons says something like this you write a whole 1000 page novel trying to rationalize it. You've been doing this ever since you come here, asking the exact same questions multiple times and such.

Nothing has been asked that was asked before in this matter Ben. Wish you would read rather than always jumping on and repeating the same argument against me but patterns for us are hard to change I see.
(12-16-2018, 01:54 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Jake, You have to consciously find ways to listen to subliminals.

I feel these disturbances you are facing due to which you are not able to listen to the sub is being cause by your subconscious.

I play my sub on my tablet which is in my room and if I wanna go outside then I sync the time at which the sub is playing on my mobile manually and then go outside and when I come back after an hour or two I pause my player on phone as my tablet is already playing exact time.

I have been doing this ever since 5.5G tech came out and all this ASRB stuff.

Even I can tell this Jake that your Subc is trying to make you take breaks and then also making you believe that sub might not be working cause of some weird theory. I also used to have these weird revelations. lol.. Subc much smarter than I thought.

You have to understand this.. Its a pattern of your subconscious for derailing you. I had this. You have no idea how much shit i went thru to finally get my Subc in control

All you have to do is not take a day of unless it's ASRB break.

Whenever you see something stopping you from listening to subs/change it... Remember this "This my Subc trying to **** me up!! I am not gonna let this **** me anymore".

I was the guy who used to feel like changing subs every 15 days and I did. But now that's not the case anymore. Cause I knew that no one was my enemy but myself.. Its a war against yourself.

Thanks alot Zane. I appreciate the support. I'm doing and being more forceful with myself about listening and trying harder.
(12-16-2018, 03:19 PM)Paul1131 Wrote: [ -> ]Jake, try this. Just let the pretty sounds play in your ears for the requisite amount of times every single day your supposed to, and stop worrying about if it’s working for a while. Just listen and let it do it’s thing. Or not, but you might be better by not overthinking so much. I think you might surprise yourself if you just let it do it’s thing.

Thanks Paul. Again appreciate the support. I think overthinking could be a pattern I have which could be causing some issues.

I'll take this advice on board.
Jake, I'm not convinced you will take this seriously. "Only 10 days" is "only 8 days" more than you were supposed to take off, IF it was timed correctly for an ASRB break. Otherwise it was 10 days more. So that, best case scenario, is only what, 400% or 500% more time off than you were supposed to get? Yet here you are talking as if it's no big deal. How do we classify this, Jake? Self deception, or self delusion?

When you want something, you do what it takes to get it. Do what it takes, and I'll believe you're serious. Until I believe you are serious again, you will have to figure it out without my help.
(12-18-2018, 05:40 PM)StridingStrider Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-18-2018, 03:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-18-2018, 03:15 PM)StridingStrider Wrote: [ -> ]Just want to say that I was going to work today and I think the FRM fired. I felt much better then normal, after 1 week into the program.

Can you describe this in more detail, please?

Sure. I was getting a lift to work, and thinking about the day ahead. Started getting anxiety and fear within myself. Arrive at work, walk through the door then I guess state shifting occurs, start smiling at people. Within a couple of minutes of closing the car door the fear and anxiety is pretty much gone.

Upon revision, I guess this was just the state shifting.

It would have been the FRM and the state shifting triggered to synergize in achieving the goals of the program. The state shifting would not have removed the fear, but it would have triggered to help the FRM do it's job.
I just decided to peek and it looks like DMSI 3.3 is out?

I looked in the journal, but didn't see the instructions for loops and how many consecutive days? Can someone fill me in?

Thanks

Sure hope this works.
The description in the catalog can.
This is what, the 6th time someone din't see the loops and ASRB2 listed in the description? WTH?
(12-18-2018, 08:38 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Jake, I'm not convinced you will take this seriously. "Only 10 days" is "only 8 days" more than you were supposed to take off, IF it was timed correctly for an ASRB break. Otherwise it was 10 days more. So that, best case scenario, is only what, 400% or 500% more time off than you were supposed to get? Yet here you are talking as if it's no big deal. How do we classify this, Jake? Self deception, or self delusion?

When you want something, you do what it takes to get it. Do what it takes, and I'll believe you're serious. Until I believe you are serious again, you will have to figure it out without my help.

After 3years if you don't see this as me taking it serious then I don't see what will. First time I've broken asrb.

I'll plod along and hope for the best.
Ah, I wasn't able to check there.

When I went the Subliminal Shop site and clicked log in the page kept trying to load. It wasn't until I literally refreshed a completely different tab that the page just went through. I'll be sure to read the instructions on the product page now.
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