(02-01-2019, 10:47 PM)Vasil Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, congrats on the new LTU! It looks like a beast.
2 quick questions:
1) How bad should we expect turbulence to be from the latest DMSI to this assuming the 1 week break?
After my first night on LTU, if I were in your shoes, I would personally give it at least a 2, and more likely a 3 or 4 week break.
Quote:2) Will those who buy LTU in 5.5 G get a discount on the 6 G version?
Thanks!
I have no idea if there even will be a 6G version. But I'm not currently planning to give a discount on a 6G version if I make one. That may or may not change as I have time to strategize and think about it.
(02-02-2019, 01:25 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ]If a single stage 5.5G now costs $600 dollars, I'm fairly sure I will never be able to afford a 6G multistage. What will it be, 3k, 5k?
You are using faulty logic here. A single stage 5.5G is $114.95. This isn't just a single stage 5.5G. It's 12 full individual titles in one, plus a load of other stuff. It should cost over $1,300.
And so far the plans to have 6G single stage titles be about $300 each has not changed.
(02-02-2019, 05:58 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 02:20 AM)lokko Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 01:25 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ]If a single stage 5.5G now costs $600 dollars, I'm fairly sure I will never be able to afford a 6G multistage. What will it be, 3k, 5k?
Honestly if it actually achieves its goal than people will buy it, and pay even more for 6G. However truth is, a small sample of people are going to buy it as of now, and it’s going to take Shannon a shit ton of time until he makes good money from it. As a business person I would have sold it for $149.99 so that 300 people buy, rather than $600 where maybe 30 people will buy. But who knows maybe LTU is going to be a game changer. I do agree with you about how it seems quite expensive for only being a single stage 5.5g. If it was 6G technology that was talked about for years now, then id say go for it. But 5.5G was never as hyped up as 6g was.
If it does more than AM6, which is $500, then it may well be worth the money (if you've got it!). I won't be able to afford it though, because my landlord has decided to sell the house I'm living in and the next place I get will have much higher rent. Also, my income has fallen in the last few years. Like I said, if a 6G multistage is 3k or 5k, I'll never be able to try it. My only hope is USLM4, or maybe UMS, which I might just be able to afford.
Yeah, 115 dollars is ok for me for a one stage program, but 600 is way too much. Regardless of its value. I think most people won't buy it because of that, which is a shame.
Also, I remember years ago people were saving for months for AM6. The same will likely happen with LTU, let alone 6Gs.
So it will take a lot of time for people to afford it and for Shannon to profit from these programs.
But we'll see
(02-02-2019, 02:20 AM)lokko Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 01:25 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ]If a single stage 5.5G now costs $600 dollars, I'm fairly sure I will never be able to afford a 6G multistage. What will it be, 3k, 5k?
Honestly if it actually achieves its goal than people will buy it, and pay even more for 6G. However truth is, a small sample of people are going to buy it as of now, and it’s going to take Shannon a shit ton of time until he makes good money from it. As a business person I would have sold it for $149.99 so that 300 people buy, rather than $600 where maybe 30 people will buy. But who knows maybe LTU is going to be a game changer. I do agree with you about how it seems quite expensive for only being a single stage 5.5g. If it was 6G technology that was talked about for years now, then id say go for it. But 5.5G was never as hyped up as 6g was.
The thing is, that sort of thinking sinks a business. You (might) make more in the short run, but even if you do, you kill yourself in the long run. The smart business owner always balances the price with the received and perceived value so that both are equal. This way you make the most possible profits, and you also maintain the value of the brand over time.
That is what I use the models to do when I choose the price. There were three options, and this one was actually the lowest one that came up as working. I chose this one because can raise the price later, after the value has been verified by the current users, and maximize profits now while giving my loyal customers a great deal at the same time I give them a life changing program with incredible value! It's win-win-win.
You see "quite expensive for only being a single stage 5.5g". You're comparing $114.95 to $600. I see twelve complete 5.5G titles in one, plus a load of extra content, which allows me to use all of them at once and change my whole life, without ever having to buy anything again. I see what would normally cost over $1,300 and make me waste most of it because I couldn't use more than one program at a time, now costing only $600 and allowing me to achieve value from every one of those titles at once.
That's why people will buy it at $600 and be happy.
Just read the product page for LTU. damn sam!! This program is worth every penny! understatement. the first 4 listings those combine and if it were just those 4 would be worth it Man!! This program is gonna sell like hot cakes,in a few short months!! Let the word git out,you watch!! all of it combined,though is just incredible.
I have several other titles I need and very much do want to use, however this is one that is sooo attractive to me.
Im in America,and here,some folks spend 600$ a week on dining out combined with Live theater, 'er some such entertainment, in places like NYC,L.A. Chicago,ect...600 bucks man,are you kidding me? this is steal !! it was a helluva deal for me and a few other who got B.A.M.M. 2.0 when it came out initially fer 1,200$ ( just for a few days!) then it jumped to ,3000$,such a deal, I wouldnt call it a steal at all,but it certainly was a major boon to get it for less than half da price. its a whole new world Gents,this stuff is life changing and I believe in the case of LTU,its gonna change some serious shit ,in weeks for some users.
IM sooo looking forward to Ultra Monetary Success,yet theres sooo much in LTU that I need and want to heal & work on. this is what I call " beautiful happy trouble!",so many beautiful,happy choices to come forth from IML. Shannon M. YOU Rock!!
(02-02-2019, 02:37 AM)Hanpan Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 01:57 AM)findingme Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 01:33 AM)Hanpan Wrote: [ -> ]Went through the first night of LTU.
Didn't sleep that well and I have a slight headache. However, I was out (no drinking) and got to bed 5 hours later than usual, so that might be the reason.
What's more important is that I feel really really good. I am starting LTU from a very good place, but I feel extra relaxed and happy today this far. I have a kind of childish bubbly feeling, which is a bit difficult to describe but very cool. Just did some work and my mind seems super sharp.
I know that this is only the first day, but so far so very good.
Will you be starting a LTU journal Hanpan? I'd love to follow your progress on it
Thank you - I might start a journal 
I have some reservations about starting a journal:
1) Just started a new job which takes up a shitload of time and energy. However, I would be interesting to see how LTU (hopefully) helps me in a demanding job.
2) As far as I understand, the admins really don't think that the journals are reliable if you do anything else that might alter your state of mind. I have an awesome meditation practice that I've been building over many years and that I will continue. Personally, I believe that something like that will fit beautifully with many of the goals of LTU, but I don't know. Furthermore, I really prioritize my diet, exercise habits and sleep to optimize my brain function and chemistry, so it might be difficult to tell which results come from LTU or from having a good overall lifestyle/making poor lifestyle decisions.
I think I'll make some posts here, and see what times allow me to do and if it brings any value to people.
HanPan, what I don't find value in is when people use DMSI specifically (which is free upgrades until I get it right in exchange for feedback) and then do things that will destroy my ability to tell whether or not a particular change came from DMSI or some other thing (some other form of mind programming or "therapy". Altering your state of mind isn't an issue. You would be giving me valid feedback.
(02-02-2019, 02:45 AM)Hanpan Wrote: [ -> ]Just realized that this is Shannons journal and not an LTU release thread, so I'll not post a lot in here
This is where people discuss Shannon's journal. It's actually not started by me. But your journal is anticipated, sir.
(02-02-2019, 03:41 AM)OberynMartell Wrote: [ -> ]Long time no see guys! Still an avid user of DMSI, didn't journal though because of some very heavy personal stuff. Now I see that Shannon dropped LTU 4.0, very exciting stuff!
So @Shannon, what should I do? I really want to experience this new sub, however could it be an escape tactic for DMSI?
What version of DMSI are you using? How long has it been? What results are you getting? I don't know enough to answer your question.
(02-02-2019, 04:12 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]Good lord - just saw the description of LTU , sounds more like life transformation. Id like to get on it after a few more weeks of brain repair. I didn’t say this but kept going into this state of deep self acceptance and love , and have had people showing up to insulate me from things which otherwise would have consumed all my bandwidth, I’m wondering now if that was TID from LTU. I’m torn slightly between LTU an UMS.
Very well could be TID. I have seen some pretty wild stuff from the TID this thing has given me in the last week.
I'd switch to ltu in an instant, but me and the girl dont stay together every night and so buying two is kind of daunting, and there's not really a good way to do one copy for us.
(02-02-2019, 05:58 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 02:20 AM)lokko Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 01:25 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ]If a single stage 5.5G now costs $600 dollars, I'm fairly sure I will never be able to afford a 6G multistage. What will it be, 3k, 5k?
Honestly if it actually achieves its goal than people will buy it, and pay even more for 6G. However truth is, a small sample of people are going to buy it as of now, and it’s going to take Shannon a shit ton of time until he makes good money from it. As a business person I would have sold it for $149.99 so that 300 people buy, rather than $600 where maybe 30 people will buy. But who knows maybe LTU is going to be a game changer. I do agree with you about how it seems quite expensive for only being a single stage 5.5g. If it was 6G technology that was talked about for years now, then id say go for it. But 5.5G was never as hyped up as 6g was.
If it does more than AM6, which is $500, then it may well be worth the money (if you've got it!). I won't be able to afford it though, because my landlord has decided to sell the house I'm living in and the next place I get will have much higher rent. Also, my income has fallen in the last few years. Like I said, if a 6G multistage is 3k or 5k, I'll never be able to try it. My only hope is USLM4, or maybe UMS, which I might just be able to afford.
As I said before... 5.5G standard programs are and always will be $114.95 a copy for single stage. Some programs will be special in some way and will cost more than that. This one is 12 titles in 5.5G all in one. That makes it cost more.
6G standard price for a single stage is and has been for a long time expected to be $299.95 a copy.
(02-02-2019, 06:42 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 05:58 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 02:20 AM)lokko Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 01:25 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ]If a single stage 5.5G now costs $600 dollars, I'm fairly sure I will never be able to afford a 6G multistage. What will it be, 3k, 5k?
Honestly if it actually achieves its goal than people will buy it, and pay even more for 6G. However truth is, a small sample of people are going to buy it as of now, and it’s going to take Shannon a shit ton of time until he makes good money from it. As a business person I would have sold it for $149.99 so that 300 people buy, rather than $600 where maybe 30 people will buy. But who knows maybe LTU is going to be a game changer. I do agree with you about how it seems quite expensive for only being a single stage 5.5g. If it was 6G technology that was talked about for years now, then id say go for it. But 5.5G was never as hyped up as 6g was.
If it does more than AM6, which is $500, then it may well be worth the money (if you've got it!). I won't be able to afford it though, because my landlord has decided to sell the house I'm living in and the next place I get will have much higher rent. Also, my income has fallen in the last few years. Like I said, if a 6G multistage is 3k or 5k, I'll never be able to try it. My only hope is USLM4, or maybe UMS, which I might just be able to afford.
As I said before... 5.5G standard programs are and always will be $114.95 a copy for single stage. Some programs will be special in some way and will cost more than that. This one is 12 titles in 5.5G all in one. That makes it cost more.
6G standard price for a single stage is and has been for a long time expected to be $299.95 a copy.
To Me Man, the pricing is all very reasonable. when I think about what My Life would be like WITHOUT USLM3, 115$ isnt a lot to ask compared to what I've gotten and am getting from its usage!! So 300 bucks for a life altering program in 6G single stage,isn't too much to ask. infact if it were any other Man creating such,he''d be charging a helluva lot more of it, its not that Shannon doesnt deserve it,its just that he's fairer than most,finding a balance between value,cost,energy input in creating,ect. thank you Shannon fer helping us help ourselves to change for the better. I think I Might even be getting some of the TID from LTU and Im not even utilizing this program (consciously),buying it yet.
(02-02-2019, 06:28 AM)pakr93 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 05:58 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 02:20 AM)lokko Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 01:25 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ]If a single stage 5.5G now costs $600 dollars, I'm fairly sure I will never be able to afford a 6G multistage. What will it be, 3k, 5k?
Honestly if it actually achieves its goal than people will buy it, and pay even more for 6G. However truth is, a small sample of people are going to buy it as of now, and it’s going to take Shannon a shit ton of time until he makes good money from it. As a business person I would have sold it for $149.99 so that 300 people buy, rather than $600 where maybe 30 people will buy. But who knows maybe LTU is going to be a game changer. I do agree with you about how it seems quite expensive for only being a single stage 5.5g. If it was 6G technology that was talked about for years now, then id say go for it. But 5.5G was never as hyped up as 6g was.
If it does more than AM6, which is $500, then it may well be worth the money (if you've got it!). I won't be able to afford it though, because my landlord has decided to sell the house I'm living in and the next place I get will have much higher rent. Also, my income has fallen in the last few years. Like I said, if a 6G multistage is 3k or 5k, I'll never be able to try it. My only hope is USLM4, or maybe UMS, which I might just be able to afford.
Yeah, 115 dollars is ok for me for a one stage program, but 600 is way too much. Regardless of its value. I think most people won't buy it because of that, which is a shame.
Also, I remember years ago people were saving for months for AM6. The same will likely happen with LTU, let alone 6Gs.
So it will take a lot of time for people to afford it and for Shannon to profit from these programs.
But we'll see
Some people will have your point of view, and they won't buy it. Some people will have a different point of view. What it comes down to is, how much do you need what this program does, and how willing are you to do what it takes to get it? And, how do you perceive money? Plus, I think if you look at it, "most people" won't buy anything you offer to the public. The only thing I can think of that "most people" will buy is soap and fast food.
For some people, it would take a long time to save up $600. For some people, it's pocket change. If $600 is too much, and you want to use LTU, buy the 5G version, which is $89.95. That one is still available for exactly that reason. And if you want to use the 5.5G version enough, you'll find a way to pay for it.
But things are going to be changing for the positive in the next couple years, and we are going to see a LOT more sales than we do now - many times more, at least. It's not going to be that sales go down as my prices go up, because we will be offering more value than we ask payment for, as usual.
6G has been 6 years in development for good reason. And for those who can afford it, it will be well received. But you don't see Canon, for example, or Nikon, worrying about making their top end camera lenses inexpensive because they will sell fewer copies. They make lower end lenses to fit those price points. 5.5G and 6G are top end technologies in this field. They will have an appropriately top-end price tag. And there are plenty of other options if that is too much for you. We have 5G and 4G too. Or you can save up.
(02-02-2019, 06:36 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Just read the product page for LTU. damn sam!! This program is worth every penny! understatement. the first 4 listings those combine and if it were just those 4 would be worth it Man!! This program is gonna sell like hot cakes,in a few short months!! Let the word git out,you watch!! all of it combined,man,though I have several other titles I need and very much do want to use,this is one that is sooo attractive to me.
Im in America,and here,some folkd spend 600$ a week on dining out combined with Live theater,NYC,L.A. Chicago,ect...600 bucks man,are you kidding me. this is steal !! it was a helluva deal for me and a few other who got B.A.M.M. 2.0 when it came out initially fer 1,200$ ( just for a few days!) then it jumped to ,3000$,such a deal, I wouldnt call it a steal at all,but it certainly was a major boon to get it for less than half da price. its a whole new world Gents,this stuff is life changing and I believe in the case of LTU,its gonna change some serious shit ,in weeks for some users.
IM sooo looking forward to Ultra Monetary Success,yet theres sooo much in LTU that I need and want to heal & work on. this is what I call " beautiful happy trouble!",so many beautiful,happy choices to come forth from IML. Shannon M. YOU Rock!!
Interesting how we have such polar reactions to the price. We are seeing, "What? You're crazy! Nobody would pay that!" and "That's perfectly reasonable. I'll buy a copy." and "Holy cow, that's a very low price for that level of value!"
I guess it's all about point of view.