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(02-14-2019, 03:11 AM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2019, 08:30 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2019, 08:18 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Like Life Tune Up is doing for some amazing things for Men here,one of them is they are comiong to enjoy socializing more aka "Socializing is just a fun game",Shannon what if "Making Money,Creating Oppurtunities for More money,manifesting more money & success,were just a fun game" and we could approach it from such perspectives as a fun game,pleasurable,enjoyable over Oh MY gosh,gasp...survival,choking,as if the all air is gonna suddenly leave the room or the planet for that matter! I just had that though! Money is a fun game!! I do know a few people that money is the least of their concerns,its the easiest of things to have,come into their lives,make,attract. These folk play plenty big in life too on many levels!! a fun game...wow,shure would be nice( gross,huge understatement)
what if those kinds of things could be included in UMS and BAMM,alike???? what if?
Robert F. Kennedy " Men see things and say WHY? I Dream of things that never were,and say WHY NOT!!??"

That's actually a really good idea, thank you for that!

I read a quote somewhere a long time ago, can't remember where, but it said something like "The most successful entrepreneurs are those who can take on the perspective of their challenges in a playful way and treat their course of being an entrepreneur somewhat like a game that shall be mastered". I recgonize that somewhat when I have come into a flow, for example writing my master thesis, when I just saw it as a challenge to be conquered I had an easier time thinking more freely and being more creative and being less constricted by thoughts of limitation, etc.

This sounds like an excellent general addition.
(02-14-2019, 03:08 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-14-2019, 02:16 AM)Username Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2019, 02:51 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]And 'Username' it's pretty obvious all you're trying to do is stir up shit for some reason after Shannon told you it's not a good idea to do the older version of DMSI. Because since then you've had several posts like this.

I suggest you read the rules and don't continue to do so.
Actually, it's not that obvious, cause it is conveniently overlooking the fact that I was right... That overpowering the script can have the opposite effect.

@Shannon I just wrote a long reply, to your post, but now I don't see any point at posting it.
But I will tell one observation ...thinking that communication in restaurants is rather meaningful... Is like a guy saying that he's good with women, while he only hangs out with escorts.

Dude, You already get a warning , which is quite generous given the circumstances, and then you have to get in the last word with that last comparison which is just plain asinine. I've seen people having rather meaningful conversations all the time in lots of places. I have seen people have them at gyms, malls, and all sorts of places. Hell, I've had a very spiritual and philosophical conversation with a person I barely even knew right before a game of Ultimate Frisbee years back. I don't know what is up with you but you've been saying some pretty patently provably wrong stuff and mostly based on the whole idea of "Oh well I've never experienced that for myself so it must be wrong". As if the reality you experience is the only way things are and if everyone experiences differently it is "implied" (by your language) that they are morons or inferior to your view.

Jeez, get off your high horse will ya. Granted, If past experience with people who went down the road your going right now is any indicator your probably not going to listen and have similar results to them.

Trollers gonna troll. This troll has a month to think about it. If that's not enough, we can always make it permanent. I have better things to do than humor people like him, and these posts of his violate our rules. Sadly, trolls don't care about the rules, they just want the "joy" of pissing people off. Sorry, troll, I'm not falling for it. You can go sit in the corner instead and think about whether or not you want to be a part of this community.
(02-14-2019, 05:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-14-2019, 03:11 AM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2019, 08:30 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2019, 08:18 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Like Life Tune Up is doing for some amazing things for Men here,one of them is they are comiong to enjoy socializing more aka "Socializing is just a fun game",Shannon what if "Making Money,Creating Oppurtunities for More money,manifesting more money & success,were just a fun game" and we could approach it from such perspectives as a fun game,pleasurable,enjoyable over Oh MY gosh,gasp...survival,choking,as if the all air is gonna suddenly leave the room or the planet for that matter! I just had that though! Money is a fun game!! I do know a few people that money is the least of their concerns,its the easiest of things to have,come into their lives,make,attract. These folk play plenty big in life too on many levels!! a fun game...wow,shure would be nice( gross,huge understatement)
what if those kinds of things could be included in UMS and BAMM,alike???? what if?
Robert F. Kennedy " Men see things and say WHY? I Dream of things that never were,and say WHY NOT!!??"

That's actually a really good idea, thank you for that!

I read a quote somewhere a long time ago, can't remember where, but it said something like "The most successful entrepreneurs are those who can take on the perspective of their challenges in a playful way and treat their course of being an entrepreneur somewhat like a game that shall be mastered". I recgonize that somewhat when I have come into a flow, for example writing my master thesis, when I just saw it as a challenge to be conquered I had an easier time thinking more freely and being more creative and being less constricted by thoughts of limitation, etc.

This sounds like an excellent general addition.

Let me chime in...

In my culture (Chinese-Indonesian), if we want to know what business you are in, we said: "Main apa?". Literary means: "What are you playing?".

When we address someone who has been in a particular business/field for a long time, we said: "Pemain lama". Literary means: "Old player/long-time player".

When we address someone who is new in a particular business/field, we said: "Pemain baru". Literary means: "New player".

Above are just few example of many phrases and metaphors we use representing business/entrepreneurship as game. So, "money is a fun game" is not much of a stretch.
Just saw your notes Shannon. I see a potential problem with that last one though. What if the negativity sent your way is too strong? Like wearing a bullet proof vest but getting shot by heavy artillery... or a nuclear bomb.
(02-13-2019, 03:31 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2019, 03:09 PM)AlphaRomeo Wrote: [ -> ]Question(s) about lucid dreaming and subs (I´m not sure where to post it so I put it here).
Is that considered mind programming in a sense that it might conflict with or lessen the effects of subs? Sometimes it gets tricky to estimate if certain skills development can get in a way of subs. If I want to have more control of my dreams will it prevent my subconscious mind to fully process what it needs to process regarding to subliminals while I sleep, or can my subc "multitask" so to speak at sleep so that I get both done?

Lucid dreaming is fine, but it also depends on what you do with it. If you're trying to use it for mind programming purposes, it may create issues. Then again, it again depends on what you're trying to do. I would err on the side of caution and not try to use lucid dreams as mind programming while you are using one of my subs.

Quote:How about remote viewing? In order to do that I need to go into state of trance/hypnosis, but it will be self hypnosis. In this case,an relaxed/altered state where the aim is to be receptive to information that the non-local awareness is telling to my conscious mind. If my memory serves me, Shannon, you have said that even self hypnosis (in general) conflicts the subs, but I do remember one particular instance where I told about my insane nightmares back when I was doing MLS where you told that my subc was telling me that the instructions were "alien" to it, and I responded that I would do certain self hypnosis (NLP based parts integration process, but using hypnosis) and you liked the reply. So I concluded that it was ok to do self hypnosis for that instance. If it was ok there, but not in general...where is the line? Lucid dream development ok? Remote viewing ok?

Hypnosis/NLP used for mind programming is best avoided because of the potential for unexpected conflict. Remote viewing isn't mind programming, is it?

Thank you very much for fast and such a valuable reply Shannon. That clarifies a lot and also answers to a better question that I failed to ask (how what I intend to actually do/achieve with lucid dreaming and states that are required for remote viewing, or any other skills that requires "extended perception" for that matter, effects subs).
(02-14-2019, 08:48 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]Just saw your notes Shannon. I see a potential problem with that last one though. What if the negativity sent your way is too strong? Like wearing a bullet proof vest but getting shot by heavy artillery... or a nuclear bomb.

First time I replied to this, I misread the question, so here goes take 2.

If the source is too powerful, it will overwhelm your ability to transmute it all, quite simply.

But, I don't think too many people are going to be dealing with that level of negative energy, and if they are, they are going to be better off regardless of which of those shields they use than they would be otherwise.
(02-14-2019, 06:49 AM)Nara Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-14-2019, 05:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-14-2019, 03:11 AM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2019, 08:30 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-13-2019, 08:18 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Like Life Tune Up is doing for some amazing things for Men here,one of them is they are comiong to enjoy socializing more aka "Socializing is just a fun game",Shannon what if "Making Money,Creating Oppurtunities for More money,manifesting more money & success,were just a fun game" and we could approach it from such perspectives as a fun game,pleasurable,enjoyable over Oh MY gosh,gasp...survival,choking,as if the all air is gonna suddenly leave the room or the planet for that matter! I just had that though! Money is a fun game!! I do know a few people that money is the least of their concerns,its the easiest of things to have,come into their lives,make,attract. These folk play plenty big in life too on many levels!! a fun game...wow,shure would be nice( gross,huge understatement)
what if those kinds of things could be included in UMS and BAMM,alike???? what if?
Robert F. Kennedy " Men see things and say WHY? I Dream of things that never were,and say WHY NOT!!??"

That's actually a really good idea, thank you for that!

I read a quote somewhere a long time ago, can't remember where, but it said something like "The most successful entrepreneurs are those who can take on the perspective of their challenges in a playful way and treat their course of being an entrepreneur somewhat like a game that shall be mastered". I recgonize that somewhat when I have come into a flow, for example writing my master thesis, when I just saw it as a challenge to be conquered I had an easier time thinking more freely and being more creative and being less constricted by thoughts of limitation, etc.

This sounds like an excellent general addition.

Let me chime in...

In my culture (Chinese-Indonesian), if we want to know what business you are in, we said: "Main apa?". Literary means: "What are you playing?".

When we address someone who has been in a particular business/field for a long time, we said: "Pemain lama". Literary means: "Old player/long-time player".

When we address someone who is new in a particular business/field, we said: "Pemain baru". Literary means: "New player".

Above are just few example of many phrases and metaphors we use representing business/entrepreneurship as game. So, "money is a fun game" is not much of a stretch.

I Love it ,I Love it ,I Love it Man!! that is awesome!! In MY Mother's Language( American Indian) There are no words for goodbye & in my Father's Traditional Celtic Gaelic it roughly translates into something like : we pass this way,again,for we will always travel the circle (come round)
essentially its the same thing,there is no good bye in the great sacred hoop of all life! I Love the idea of Business owners as players,old and new. awesome!! Money and Success are but a fun game! damn that rocks!!
Shannon,do the various shields already draw energy,that is inner energy from the person & for the person? could they draw energy from the Sun,Air,Water,Earth....solar shield energy,from the tree's,ect...empowerment from being outside in nature? drawing positive or neutral energies from Nature?
what if one in the case of say UMS and/or BAMM... the shield would be able to take any negative energy, from say someone who was in state of jealousy,envy sending you "I hope/want you to fail,so I dont look like a fool" or whatever kind of F-ed up energy, and be able to transform that into green money energy. Green Lantern's Light Prevails!! Going Green !!Ha!! but with money not envy!!:-)
( I know ,I Know other countries have monies of different colours,symbols,etc,,but since I AM an AMERICAN I used green:-)

PS: hours later: Parts of anger management would be so helpful in light of having more money,both ways, dealing with other peoples anger/resentments around money as well as one's own. a Lotta people resent folks who have money/a better life and so what happens when they themselves become more wealthy,theky start projecting as in if they've resented folks who have more money than they do then what do you think will happen with them if they get more the projection is that they will be fearing " If I have more money,the others will resent me for having it,just like I've resented others in the past for having more money' and potentially blocking and sabotaging it to 'stay safe".

IM shure fear remover 4.4 'er 5.0 would help greatly just wondering if there might be something else needed to move past that kind of resistance-- once having money,keeping it responsibly,just wanted to run those by you,see what you think/others think in light of that. I tend not to resent people with money,fore my approach is more like, heck thier human beings & Im a human being,if they can do it/have it.then so can
I. however I do know individ's who very much resent others fer having money,some relatives included!! thanx. Keith,
Hey Shannon I know you mentioned your mild disdain for redoing the sub again but what are the chances FRM (up to date) could allow MLS to really dig deeper and provide the effects users are looking for?

I'm just pondering what to run after my time with DMSI as the FRM is really awesome in the current version. FRM would work wonders in most subs I reckon - unless it's AYP in which case it's all about the manifestation.
(02-14-2019, 12:47 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,do the various shields already draw energy,that is inner energy from the person & for the person? could they draw energy from the Sun,Air,Water,Earth....solar shield energy,from the tree's,ect...empowerment from being outside in nature? drawing positive or neutral energies from Nature?
what if one in the case of say UMS and/or BAMM... the shield would be able to take any negative energy, from say someone who was in state of jealousy,envy sending you "I hope/want you to fail,so I dont look like a fool" or whatever kind of F-ed up energy, and be able to transform that into green money energy. Green Lantern's Light Prevails!! Going Green !!Ha!! but with money not envy!!:-)
( I know ,I Know other countries have monies of different colours,symbols,etc,,but since I AM an AMERICAN I used green:-)

non-personal sources of energy to power the shield will have to wait until I build them as stand-alone subs. At that time I can consider whether that is necessary, and if so, what the best solution is. Right now, I don't know.

But it is possible to transmute energy intended to degrade your success, and use it to power your success.
(02-14-2019, 01:50 PM)LiquidMind Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon I know you mentioned your mild disdain for redoing the sub again but what are the chances FRM (up to date) could allow MLS to really dig deeper and provide the effects users are looking for?

I don't think I would calkl it mind disdain. I don't like that sub a lot more than mild disdain for the number of hours I have spent working on it.

FRM is basically what the program needs to work. But I'm not rebuilding it until I can rebuild it in 6G. It's only going to be built one more time.

Quote:I'm just pondering what to run after my time with DMSI as the FRM is really awesome in the current version. FRM would work wonders in most subs I reckon - unless it's AYP in which case it's all about the manifestation.

That's why FRM is part of the skeleton script. And it will also work wonders for manifestation subs, because it is fear that prevents people from achieving the results. That fear is what makes them unable to "set it and forget it". Those people don't have what they want to manifest because they're afraid of the results that having it would bring, and as a result, when you instruct them to manifest it, one or both of their conscious/subconscious minds objects and basically prevents it from happening in some way.
(02-14-2019, 02:37 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]That's why FRM is part of the skeleton script. And it will also work wonders for manifestation subs, because it is fear that prevents people from achieving the results. That fear is what makes them unable to "set it and forget it". Those people don't have what they want to manifest because they're afraid of the results that having it would bring, and as a result, when you instruct them to manifest it, one or both of their conscious/subconscious minds objects and basically prevents it from happening in some way.

Hmm since you mentioned that I was just thinking is there any Chance once 6G is done that you might release the AYP subs kind of like you did the focus fire subs in between major releases? I'm assuming of course that if you gotten one Romatic/Sexual AYP done that it would be quick and easy to make others since you would only be switching out certain words. I know you need to get the first 6G sub out which I assume is going to be the self confidence sub (ASC) and then after that you need to work on the custom but after that would it be possible to release some AYPs in between major releases?
(02-14-2019, 02:46 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-14-2019, 02:37 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]That's why FRM is part of the skeleton script. And it will also work wonders for manifestation subs, because it is fear that prevents people from achieving the results. That fear is what makes them unable to "set it and forget it". Those people don't have what they want to manifest because they're afraid of the results that having it would bring, and as a result, when you instruct them to manifest it, one or both of their conscious/subconscious minds objects and basically prevents it from happening in some way.

Hmm since you mentioned that I was just thinking is there any Chance once 6G is done that you might release the AYP subs kind of like you did the focus fire subs in between major releases? I'm assuming of course that if you gotten one Romatic/Sexual AYP done that it would be quick and easy to make others since you would only be switching out certain words. I know you need to get the first 6G sub out which I assume is going to be the self confidence sub (ASC) and then after that you need to work on the custom but after that would it be possible to release some AYPs in between major releases?

AYP are old technology. The 6G will be manifestation programs, not attraction programs. It is possible that making 6G MYPs will be quick and easy focus fire stuff, but I have to look at a lot of script and how it interacts first.

I don't know when all this will be released. My work queue is a mile deep.
Quote:AYP are old technology. The 6G will be manifestation programs, not attraction programs. It is possible that making 6G MYPs will be quick and easy focus fire stuff, but I have to look at a lot of script and how it interacts first.

I don't know when all this will be released. My work queue is a mile deep.

I’m really looking forward to the day MYPFWB is available in 6G. I will definitely be trying a MYP (most likely ‘Friends With Benefits’) once it has FRM and whatnot.

In the meantime, are you going to be making ‘Improve Your Love Life’ as a 5.5G sub for $114.95?


Edit: What’s the differences between ‘manifestation programs’ and ‘attraction programs’?
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