(02-05-2019, 10:06 AM)Oversoul Wrote: [ -> ]I think my 'old self' is manifesting itself as stress to prevent execution. Maybe the next dmsi could have some sort of stress relief init if it dosent already?
I need to understand what you mean by this better than I do. Please elaborate.
(02-02-2019, 11:29 AM)Hanpan Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 06:37 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 02:37 AM)Hanpan Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 01:57 AM)findingme Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 01:33 AM)Hanpan Wrote: [ -> ]Went through the first night of LTU.
Didn't sleep that well and I have a slight headache. However, I was out (no drinking) and got to bed 5 hours later than usual, so that might be the reason.
What's more important is that I feel really really good. I am starting LTU from a very good place, but I feel extra relaxed and happy today this far. I have a kind of childish bubbly feeling, which is a bit difficult to describe but very cool. Just did some work and my mind seems super sharp.
I know that this is only the first day, but so far so very good.
Will you be starting a LTU journal Hanpan? I'd love to follow your progress on it
Thank you - I might start a journal 
I have some reservations about starting a journal:
1) Just started a new job which takes up a shitload of time and energy. However, I would be interesting to see how LTU (hopefully) helps me in a demanding job.
2) As far as I understand, the admins really don't think that the journals are reliable if you do anything else that might alter your state of mind. I have an awesome meditation practice that I've been building over many years and that I will continue. Personally, I believe that something like that will fit beautifully with many of the goals of LTU, but I don't know. Furthermore, I really prioritize my diet, exercise habits and sleep to optimize my brain function and chemistry, so it might be difficult to tell which results come from LTU or from having a good overall lifestyle/making poor lifestyle decisions.
I think I'll make some posts here, and see what times allow me to do and if it brings any value to people.
HanPan, what I don't find value in is when people use DMSI specifically (which is free upgrades until I get it right in exchange for feedback) and then do things that will destroy my ability to tell whether or not a particular change came from DMSI or some other thing (some other form of mind programming or "therapy". Altering your state of mind isn't an issue. You would be giving me valid feedback.
One short comment to the money thing and then a question
If money is an issue I would suggest buying US/LM and go through that first. I did that sub in the fall with 3 pretty big goals in different areas of my life (one of them job/financial) and US/LM worked very well. I would imagine that it would work even better if you one had 1 goal (in this case a financial goal).
Now for the question - I just re-read the product page. Shannon (or others) can you give me some indications on how to meassure my progress on this sub? When I did US/LM it was easy since I had 3 goals where 2 of them were almost 100 % messuareble. I think it's a bit more difficult with this sub since it's 12 subs in one and there is no point in meassuring 30-50 different things. Around Christmas, I decided that I would really focus on my degree of presence in everyday life and especially in difficult situations and my level of gratitude. I think that these "goals" go pretty well with LTU.
My initial idea is to set 3 very measureble goals in the "outside world" similar to US/LM and furthermore meassure:
My overall happiness and peace of mind
The way I relate to myself and my inner world
The way I relate to people around me
My level of gratitude
These goals are awesome and important, but they're just a bit difficult to meassure, especially since I'm already trying to optimize this with my lifestyle in general.
So all inputs on ways to meassure my progress on LTU are much appreciated ?
Journal your life for a little while before you start the program, and try to estimate your levels of various factors that should be changing in response to the program.
Journal your journey.
Journal your status when you finish.
I have fund that I am noticeably happier and more playful, less concerned with what normally bothered me, and so on.
(02-02-2019, 12:10 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Well well...what I find interesting and curious is that,since you combined 12 programs into 1 aka LTU,which is incredible,as stated its a first..OK well then, programs like AM7 and BAMM,what in the heck would they contain,as possibilities. This is more like a STATEMENT than a question. its like saying "Geez what are the possibilities here,I wonder? seems like the sky's becoming not even the limit. so it would seem. FRM 4.5 is a mother lode in and of itself.
I'd like you to understand and realize that making more of these mega-programs isn't my goal. I needed one program to use that would help my girlfriend in all the ways she needed help in, all at once, and I decided that if she needed it, others would too.
For future programs, we probably won't be combining full titles.
But FRM is definitely the key to everything, and we are relatively close to finishing it. I would estimate we are between 3 and 9 months from finished.
(02-02-2019, 02:04 PM)OberynMartell Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 06:39 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 03:41 AM)OberynMartell Wrote: [ -> ]Long time no see guys! Still an avid user of DMSI, didn't journal though because of some very heavy personal stuff. Now I see that Shannon dropped LTU 4.0, very exciting stuff!
So @Shannon, what should I do? I really want to experience this new sub, however could it be an escape tactic for DMSI?
What version of DMSI are you using? How long has it been? What results are you getting? I don't know enough to answer your question.
Yeah I didn't give you enough information, sorry about that. Currently using the newest 3.1.1 D, until now 8 back to back loops a day. So not much to say about this, because it's only been 7 days. I've been using the sub DMSI since the beginning, since AOSI it was called if I remember correctly.
I really began to execute around DMSI 3.1, after that no results. Always followed the instructions and amount of loops.
In the meantime: Gained a lot of weight in body fat, which was/is really bad for my confidence. Also had a lot of personal setbacks in that period. After a lot of problems, I'm back at the good things again. Going to start a part time study which my boss will pay fully for, have still great rapport with my female co-workers. People notice that. But other than that, nothing like on 3.1.
So in summary, I know what the program can do, I know its power if you execute. Now to my question, what should I do? I really want to get the results of the program. But LTU sounds so good, it's almost impossible not to try it out. Maybe it is something I should figure out myself, just hoping if you or another member could help me in the right direction. Because it would suck if it was my subconscious trying to deny me results because of fear.
DMSI 3.3.1-D is going to be easier on you than LTU4.
I would keep going on DMSI-3.3.1-D for a while, trying various options like format and volume.
If you're gaining body fat, your subconscious is reverse resisting, and ignoring script, which at this point is pretty much only possible if the settings are not correct.
If you do jump to LTU4, you're going to have to deal with a tornado. You'll not be escaping, just moving to something else that will be doing much the same thing because of overlap when it comes to personal development, and doing it a lot faster and harder.
I would experiment with settings before I switched... presuming you haven't already.
(02-05-2019, 01:45 PM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2019, 04:14 PM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]Please do E3 in two versions with "reflective-back-to-the-person" respectively with "reflective-into-the-air" protective aura. I'm pretty sure my mom will not stop attacking me energetically if she doesn't get a taste of her own medicine.
Some side questions:
- Will the aura be protective of other people getting attacked but being close to me? I'm thinking of my father who also is a victim of my mother's attacking him.
- If the aura make toxic people not able to be toxic towards you, wouldn't that hinder your development of healthy boundaries? But that development maybe is spurred by E3 in itself, not needing the outside pressure. Just a thought.
- What if the case is that I am projecting my own problems on people and just believe them being toxic, without actually being toxic? Would that make the aura repel people that maybe want me good? Or is the aura seeing through my own psychological limitations?
Quoting my own post from a couple of pages as I believe it will get lost along the other ones. I also would like to ask if you can tell when E3 may be released as it would be nice to plan for my 1 week break between E2 and E3.
I unfortunately can't make multiple versions of E3 like that, given the amount of work in my queue. I can make multiple different versions of the stand alone auric shield program when I make it.
Quote:- Will the aura be protective of other people getting attacked but being close to me? I'm thinking of my father who also is a victim of my mother's attacking him.
I don't know. It might. I don't know how big this aura is.
Quote:- If the aura make toxic people not able to be toxic towards you, wouldn't that hinder your development of healthy boundaries? But that development maybe is spurred by E3 in itself, not needing the outside pressure. Just a thought.
The aura prevents toxic or negative energy from reaching you. It prevents undesired influences from reaching or influencing you. It doesn't make toxic people unable to be toxic toward you; it does prevent their toxic energy from reaching you. Boundaries need to be set by you.
Quote:- What if the case is that I am projecting my own problems on people and just believe them being toxic, without actually being toxic? Would that make the aura repel people that maybe want me good? Or is the aura seeing through my own psychological limitations?
The aura only acts as a reflection shield against incoming negative, undesired, manipulative energy.
Just reposting it in case you didn’t see my post earlier:
“Hi Shannon,
I’ve been on USLM3 since release- so around 3 months now.
How is it that I’ve yet to see any truly significant changes or occurrences on USLM3, but on USLM 1+2 I noticed this positive feeling that everything was going to be ok and I also warmed up while I was playing it (kind of like a DMSI aura effect but it happened consistently when I played as opposed to sporadically with DMSI and it was stronger on 2 than 1 but I haven’t felt it at all on 3).
I regularly won something while playing different lotto games on 1+2 and noticed life and job success- more so on 1 than 2, but there was a boost in lotto winnings on 2.
So my main question is how is it that there were benefits and changes noticed on 1+2 but not really on 3, and the improvement was noticed from 1 to 2 but not really in 3. The main thing I noticed on 3 is that I was dead tired for the first 1-2 weeks then went back to normal- I’ve noticed more sabotage and reverse resistance than anything on USLM3.”
I’m trying to justify not returning to an earlier version of USLM when I noticed results the first several weeks of using both of them.
(02-05-2019, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (02-05-2019, 02:53 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Is E3 your next task? I think I’m going to try out E3. If I want to change from DMSI 3.3.1-D to e3, do I need to take a break? How long?
I was planning to do USLM4 and then E3.
I am very much looking forward to running USLM4 and experiencing the new FRM.
It’s looking like I’m going to be able to push the button on USLM4 on Saturday as planned. I was a skeptic about TID, but I’ve definitely felt something going on for the last week or so. I think I can already say this ones more than a step up from 3 and just what I need right now.
(02-05-2019, 03:12 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (02-05-2019, 09:23 AM)Choice Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, can you update the FRM to be capable to work directly on the fears we experience/encounter in our day to day lives?
Do you think that I ever had any different focus in it to begin with?
I wasn't referring to the general process of the FRM removing all fears in the way, but rather adding also a more targeted approach removing the specific fears the user encounters in his day to day life. So for example, you notice a hot girl, but you're too afraid to look at her... FRM kicks in and starts working on removing that fear... and so on.
Hi Shannon, you mentioned fears are being removed quite fast for you in last few days with frm 4.4.
Im almost 2 cycles through dmsi, i havent felt any changes internally or externally, have any suggestions what i should try to do to see something start to happen?
(02-05-2019, 09:23 AM)Choice Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, can you update the FRM to be capable to work directly on the fears we experience/encounter in our day to day lives?
If it's related to the goal of the program then it could have that affect. And you could also have that as a conscious goal in USLM.
(02-05-2019, 03:45 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]Just reposting it in case you didn’t see my post earlier:
“Hi Shannon,
I’ve been on USLM3 since release- so around 3 months now.
How is it that I’ve yet to see any truly significant changes or occurrences on USLM3, but on USLM 1+2 I noticed this positive feeling that everything was going to be ok and I also warmed up while I was playing it (kind of like a DMSI aura effect but it happened consistently when I played as opposed to sporadically with DMSI and it was stronger on 2 than 1 but I haven’t felt it at all on 3).
I regularly won something while playing different lotto games on 1+2 and noticed life and job success- more so on 1 than 2, but there was a boost in lotto winnings on 2.
So my main question is how is it that there were benefits and changes noticed on 1+2 but not really on 3, and the improvement was noticed from 1 to 2 but not really in 3. The main thing I noticed on 3 is that I was dead tired for the first 1-2 weeks then went back to normal- I’ve noticed more sabotage and reverse resistance than anything on USLM3.”
I’m trying to justify not returning to an earlier version of USLM when I noticed results the first several weeks of using both of them.
Well, Version 1 had no FRM and V2 had an early version (V2 if I remember), and V3 has v3.2.
The FRM represents a course of action that the subconscious does not want to take. The stronger it gets, the better it gets, the closer it gets to achieving it's goals regardless of what the subconscious does.
Which is why you see more sabotage and reverse resistance on 3. Your subconscious doesn't want to do what the FRM is telling it to do, and is seeking any possible escape.
Which is why I keep advancing FRM. v3.2 wasn't good enough to be the final version. But it is better and more powerful than v2 and that is apparent by the efforts to resist. If there was no resistance, the goal would be met. Previous versions either didn't aim at the real heart of the matter, or didn't have the power to get past your subconscious escape tactics. This version is good enough and powerful enough that it forces consciously obvious escape tactics to be used to avoid the FRM.
(02-05-2019, 04:43 PM)Choice Wrote: [ -> ] (02-05-2019, 03:12 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (02-05-2019, 09:23 AM)Choice Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, can you update the FRM to be capable to work directly on the fears we experience/encounter in our day to day lives?
Do you think that I ever had any different focus in it to begin with?
I wasn't referring to the general process of the FRM removing all fears in the way, but rather adding also a more targeted approach removing the specific fears the user encounters in his day to day life. So for example, you notice a hot girl, but you're too afraid to look at her... FRM kicks in and starts working on removing that fear... and so on.
"Day to day fears" are nothing more than the consciously observable impact that a deeper fear has on a day to day basis. If that deeper fear, or any of the "day to day" examples, stands in the way if the program achieving its goal, FRM will remove it. That means that it's already designed to do what you describe.
(02-05-2019, 05:05 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, you mentioned fears are being removed quite fast for you in last few days with frm 4.4.
Im almost 2 cycles through dmsi, i havent felt any changes internally or externally, have any suggestions what i should try to do to see something start to happen?
First, understand that for some people, it may take more than 2 cycles.
Second, experiment with settings.
Third, remember that you cannot compare your results to those of others, because others aren't you, and may not be using the same program.
I happen to respond very well to subliminals - my own and those of others, as long as they are made properly. That's a function of my personality as much as anything else. Some people will find FRM 4.4 challenging, which is why I'm not calling it 5.0, which is the finished product.
And last but not least, remember that it is very unlikely that you can stonewall this completely. It is much more likely that you are preventing your conscious self from seeing what is actually happening, in an effort to discourage your use of the program, while changing slowly as you fight the process tooth and nail.