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(03-13-2018, 07:42 PM)lano1106 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2018, 05:06 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]although no sex yet. But I feel like I might be close and the dam could burst at any moment.

Me neither no sex yet. You know, it is either a limiting belief or a very lucid view of reality but I have a hard time imagining a woman taking the lead to have sex (at least not the type of women that I find attractive...)

In my reality model, a woman wanting to have sex with me will be extremely cooperative with my suggestion of isolation her but as a man, I still have to lead to make it happen.

To have everyday adventures that would put to shame most of the best cheesy porn scenarios is certainly accessible to all DMSI users. It is just a matter to have the strong belief that it is possible and behave accordingly and make moves on girls.

Possibly this is something you acquire with positive experience feedback...at first slowly and eventually, you become a legendary stud....

I still have restraints in that department possibly due to strong social programming. I think that minimal actions is required by the user to get results IOW, execute the script (know idea consciously what it is the script exactly...)

I think the two biggest things holding you guys back are the prison bars you have created for yourselves from fear of succeeding at the goals (not knowing yet how to get from Point A to Point C, with Point B being scary because it is undefined), or being afraid of women, sex, the potential consequences of having sex, or maybe even your own sexuality;

...and the prison bars you have created for yourselves concerning what it means to "be a man". A lot of you have so built your core identities on "Me man, me must hunt, me must be initiator, me must be aggressor, me must do all work, me man!" that you cannot conceive in your own heads of being a man and being so high value that none of that is actually necessary. The really high value males, the real top level guys, the guys who are truly the cream of the crop, they do not chase because they never have to! You instead are stuck in the logical fallacy of insisting on the past: 1. It has never happened to me before that way, so obviously, it never will. 2. I have never seen a woman come on to a man in real life, so obviously that is impossible. 3. I have never been that high value before to a woman, so obviously, I never will.

These are the final barriers we face for almost all of you. Think about them. Realize how much YOU are stopping yourself by accepting these as true. I already have programming in the script that tries to deal with all of this, but you guys are fighting it so hard in a lot of cases that you refuse to allow it to execute, and refuse to open yourself to the new reality in which these beliefs are no longer limiting you.
(03-13-2018, 08:24 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]DMSI 3.2b makes me extremely horny when the night time approaches. I listen to the sub in the morning.

It’s so frustrating to be this horny and no girl around. And trust me porn/ masturbation won’t work it will shut it off for 30min maybe one hour max. Then the urge is back. That’s why some of you got to jerk it out 3-4 times in a day lol. Back in 3.1 I used to take sexual herbs supplements. I wonder how my sexuality going to be if I take sexual herbs with this version .

Anyways attraction is pretty high now, even my workout buddy keeps telling me how girls are looking at me. He was surprised saying this girl got a bf why she’s looking at you? Another one has a husband and looking and smiles too....

Also this buddy started to touch me a lot on my shoulders. Like ***** a lot lol. He’s not gay so I assume it could be the celebrity effect or my energy is just delicious

Masturbation will not satisfy your sexual needs if you are executing the script. Only real sex will.
(03-13-2018, 09:38 PM)eternity Wrote: [ -> ]Its really hard for me to muster up the strength to post this but the girl i was seeing for the past 6 months passed away yesterday. Life is too short. She was 24. If there is something i take away from this experience to share with yall.. its that life is too short to sit on the sidelines and let life pass you by. Every moment is precious.

We must definitely remember to appreciate and embrace the people we have in our lives, because there is no guarantee that they will be there even later on today. It is a painful reminder to lose someone, especially that young. My best wishes are with you, my friend. Peace be with the both of you.
(03-14-2018, 03:17 AM)AstonMartin Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, what can you estimate about the effectiveness of H&C in 3.2A then compared to 3.1A?
Maybe in percentage.

You're asking me what percentage of red is redder if we have more red than we have now. There's no way to answer. I have said this before several times already, but I will say it again:

DMSI will do what it takes to get you to the finish line, provided you execute the script.

A side will try to actively and gently clear and heal those issues that block you, and may take longer. B side will leave that job up to the Optimus Engine, which will achieve the goal by whatever means are most expedient. They will both get you past that barrier if you need H&C to do it; it's not a matter of which one is "more effective", but of which one is more suitable for your personality type.
(03-14-2018, 08:16 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2018, 07:42 PM)lano1106 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2018, 05:06 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]although no sex yet. But I feel like I might be close and the dam could burst at any moment.

Me neither no sex yet. You know, it is either a limiting belief or a very lucid view of reality but I have a hard time imagining a woman taking the lead to have sex (at least not the type of women that I find attractive...)

In my reality model, a woman wanting to have sex with me will be extremely cooperative with my suggestion of isolation her but as a man, I still have to lead to make it happen.

To have everyday adventures that would put to shame most of the best cheesy porn scenarios is certainly accessible to all DMSI users. It is just a matter to have the strong belief that it is possible and behave accordingly and make moves on girls.

Possibly this is something you acquire with positive experience feedback...at first slowly and eventually, you become a legendary stud....

I still have restraints in that department possibly due to strong social programming. I think that minimal actions is required by the user to get results IOW, execute the script (know idea consciously what it is the script exactly...)

I think the two biggest things holding you guys back are the prison bars you have created for yourselves from fear of succeeding at the goals (not knowing yet how to get from Point A to Point C, with Point B being scary because it is undefined), or being afraid of women, sex, the potential consequences of having sex, or maybe even your own sexuality;

...and the prison bars you have created for yourselves concerning what it means to "be a man". A lot of you have so built your core identities on "Me man, me must hunt, me must be initiator, me must be aggressor, me must do all work, me man!" that you cannot conceive in your own heads of being a man and being so high value that none of that is actually necessary. The really high value males, the real top level guys, the guys who are truly the cream of the crop, they do not chase because they never have to! You instead are stuck in the logical fallacy of insisting on the past: 1. It has never happened to me before that way, so obviously, it never will. 2. I have never seen a woman come on to a man in real life, so obviously that is impossible. 3. I have never been that high value before to a woman, so obviously, I never will.

These are the final barriers we face for almost all of you. Think about them. Realize how much YOU are stopping yourself by accepting these as true. I already have programming in the script that tries to deal with all of this, but you guys are fighting it so hard in a lot of cases that you refuse to allow it to execute, and refuse to open yourself to the new reality in which these beliefs are no longer limiting you.

That's some profound insight. I'm gonna rethink my beliefs and no longer impose any boundaries on myself. Gonna adopt the 'anything is possible' mentality from now on.
(03-13-2018, 09:38 PM)eternity Wrote: [ -> ]Its really hard for me to muster up the strength to post this but the girl i was seeing for the past 6 months passed away yesterday. Life is too short. She was 24. If there is something i take away from this experience to share with yall.. its that life is too short to sit on the sidelines and let life pass you by. Every moment is precious.
Im so sorry to hear this. Please except my deepest condolences.
(03-14-2018, 08:24 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:16 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2018, 07:42 PM)lano1106 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2018, 05:06 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]although no sex yet. But I feel like I might be close and the dam could burst at any moment.

Me neither no sex yet. You know, it is either a limiting belief or a very lucid view of reality but I have a hard time imagining a woman taking the lead to have sex (at least not the type of women that I find attractive...)

In my reality model, a woman wanting to have sex with me will be extremely cooperative with my suggestion of isolation her but as a man, I still have to lead to make it happen.

To have everyday adventures that would put to shame most of the best cheesy porn scenarios is certainly accessible to all DMSI users. It is just a matter to have the strong belief that it is possible and behave accordingly and make moves on girls.

Possibly this is something you acquire with positive experience feedback...at first slowly and eventually, you become a legendary stud....

I still have restraints in that department possibly due to strong social programming. I think that minimal actions is required by the user to get results IOW, execute the script (know idea consciously what it is the script exactly...)

I think the two biggest things holding you guys back are the prison bars you have created for yourselves from fear of succeeding at the goals (not knowing yet how to get from Point A to Point C, with Point B being scary because it is undefined), or being afraid of women, sex, the potential consequences of having sex, or maybe even your own sexuality;

...and the prison bars you have created for yourselves concerning what it means to "be a man". A lot of you have so built your core identities on "Me man, me must hunt, me must be initiator, me must be aggressor, me must do all work, me man!" that you cannot conceive in your own heads of being a man and being so high value that none of that is actually necessary. The really high value males, the real top level guys, the guys who are truly the cream of the crop, they do not chase because they never have to! You instead are stuck in the logical fallacy of insisting on the past: 1. It has never happened to me before that way, so obviously, it never will. 2. I have never seen a woman come on to a man in real life, so obviously that is impossible. 3. I have never been that high value before to a woman, so obviously, I never will.

These are the final barriers we face for almost all of you. Think about them. Realize how much YOU are stopping yourself by accepting these as true. I already have programming in the script that tries to deal with all of this, but you guys are fighting it so hard in a lot of cases that you refuse to allow it to execute, and refuse to open yourself to the new reality in which these beliefs are no longer limiting you.

That's some profound insight. I'm gonna rethink my beliefs and no longer impose any boundaries on myself. Gonna adopt the 'anything is possible' mentality from now on.

In my case there is option 4: I have been approached multiple times in my life but have never gotten past making out. The girl does a 180 on me every time.
Believe it or not, "Anything is possible" has been in the script for a long time...
(03-14-2018, 08:28 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:24 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:16 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2018, 07:42 PM)lano1106 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2018, 05:06 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]although no sex yet. But I feel like I might be close and the dam could burst at any moment.

Me neither no sex yet. You know, it is either a limiting belief or a very lucid view of reality but I have a hard time imagining a woman taking the lead to have sex (at least not the type of women that I find attractive...)

In my reality model, a woman wanting to have sex with me will be extremely cooperative with my suggestion of isolation her but as a man, I still have to lead to make it happen.

To have everyday adventures that would put to shame most of the best cheesy porn scenarios is certainly accessible to all DMSI users. It is just a matter to have the strong belief that it is possible and behave accordingly and make moves on girls.

Possibly this is something you acquire with positive experience feedback...at first slowly and eventually, you become a legendary stud....

I still have restraints in that department possibly due to strong social programming. I think that minimal actions is required by the user to get results IOW, execute the script (know idea consciously what it is the script exactly...)

I think the two biggest things holding you guys back are the prison bars you have created for yourselves from fear of succeeding at the goals (not knowing yet how to get from Point A to Point C, with Point B being scary because it is undefined), or being afraid of women, sex, the potential consequences of having sex, or maybe even your own sexuality;

...and the prison bars you have created for yourselves concerning what it means to "be a man". A lot of you have so built your core identities on "Me man, me must hunt, me must be initiator, me must be aggressor, me must do all work, me man!" that you cannot conceive in your own heads of being a man and being so high value that none of that is actually necessary. The really high value males, the real top level guys, the guys who are truly the cream of the crop, they do not chase because they never have to! You instead are stuck in the logical fallacy of insisting on the past: 1. It has never happened to me before that way, so obviously, it never will. 2. I have never seen a woman come on to a man in real life, so obviously that is impossible. 3. I have never been that high value before to a woman, so obviously, I never will.

These are the final barriers we face for almost all of you. Think about them. Realize how much YOU are stopping yourself by accepting these as true. I already have programming in the script that tries to deal with all of this, but you guys are fighting it so hard in a lot of cases that you refuse to allow it to execute, and refuse to open yourself to the new reality in which these beliefs are no longer limiting you.

That's some profound insight. I'm gonna rethink my beliefs and no longer impose any boundaries on myself. Gonna adopt the 'anything is possible' mentality from now on.

In my case there is option 4: I have been approached multiple times in my life but have never gotten past making out. The girl does a 180 on me every time.

Instead of expecting and insisting on failure, figure out what YOU are doing to get that reaction, and change it. That's how I stopped choosing women who would cheat on and betray me.
(03-14-2018, 08:29 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Believe it or not, "Anything is possible" has been in the script for a long time...

this makes me wonder are there certain things that are easily executed by all, such as no masturbation and then are there those elements in DMSI that are NOT being executed at all, such as "anything is possible"?

Wouldnt the wall therefore eventually stop all from resisting?
(03-14-2018, 08:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 03:17 AM)AstonMartin Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, what can you estimate about the effectiveness of H&C in 3.2A then compared to 3.1A?
Maybe in percentage.

You're asking me what percentage of red is redder if we have more red than we have now. There's no way to answer. I have said this before several times already, but I will say it again:

DMSI will do what it takes to get you to the finish line, provided you execute the script.

A side will try to actively and gently clear and heal those issues that block you, and may take longer. B side will leave that job up to the Optimus Engine, which will achieve the goal by whatever means are most expedient. They will both get you past that barrier if you need H&C to do it; it's not a matter of which one is "more effective", but of which one is more suitable for your personality type.

I have no idea for me which therefore is better. As a stonewaller that is now not stonewalling on B, so far not fapping is the only tangible result I have noticed. I dont want to sabotage this by changing to A but I also dont want to miss on any better effect that A may give me. No idea. I would only change to A because the "H&C" sounds so amazing as I would love to heal and clear my inner garbage but at the same time, B being a sledgehammer will achieve this too and smash through.

I feel like im stuck between a rock and a hard place with this.
(03-14-2018, 08:40 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 03:17 AM)AstonMartin Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, what can you estimate about the effectiveness of H&C in 3.2A then compared to 3.1A?
Maybe in percentage.

You're asking me what percentage of red is redder if we have more red than we have now. There's no way to answer. I have said this before several times already, but I will say it again:

DMSI will do what it takes to get you to the finish line, provided you execute the script.

A side will try to actively and gently clear and heal those issues that block you, and may take longer. B side will leave that job up to the Optimus Engine, which will achieve the goal by whatever means are most expedient. They will both get you past that barrier if you need H&C to do it; it's not a matter of which one is "more effective", but of which one is more suitable for your personality type.

I have no idea for me which therefore is better. As a stonewaller that is now not stonewalling on B, so far not fapping is the only tangible result I have noticed. I dont want to sabotage this by changing to A but I also dont want to miss on any better effect that A may give me. No idea. I would only change to A because the "H&C" sounds so amazing as I would love to heal and clear my inner garbage but at the same time, B being a sledgehammer will achieve this too and smash through.

I feel like im stuck between a rock and a hard place with this.

What if you cease to identify yourself as a stonewaller?
(03-14-2018, 08:42 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:40 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 03:17 AM)AstonMartin Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, what can you estimate about the effectiveness of H&C in 3.2A then compared to 3.1A?
Maybe in percentage.

You're asking me what percentage of red is redder if we have more red than we have now. There's no way to answer. I have said this before several times already, but I will say it again:

DMSI will do what it takes to get you to the finish line, provided you execute the script.

A side will try to actively and gently clear and heal those issues that block you, and may take longer. B side will leave that job up to the Optimus Engine, which will achieve the goal by whatever means are most expedient. They will both get you past that barrier if you need H&C to do it; it's not a matter of which one is "more effective", but of which one is more suitable for your personality type.

I have no idea for me which therefore is better. As a stonewaller that is now not stonewalling on B, so far not fapping is the only tangible result I have noticed. I dont want to sabotage this by changing to A but I also dont want to miss on any better effect that A may give me. No idea. I would only change to A because the "H&C" sounds so amazing as I would love to heal and clear my inner garbage but at the same time, B being a sledgehammer will achieve this too and smash through.

I feel like im stuck between a rock and a hard place with this.

What if you cease to identify yourself as a stonewaller?

I am no longer a stonewaller. I was but now I am released from this and so i am an executer? hows that sound? as ill need to change my descrip' under my name.
(03-14-2018, 08:33 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:29 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Believe it or not, "Anything is possible" has been in the script for a long time...

this makes me wonder are there certain things that are easily executed by all, such as no masturbation and then are there those elements in DMSI that are NOT being executed at all, such as "anything is possible"?

Wouldnt the wall therefore eventually stop all from resisting?

Various things represent goals that are more or less desirable to the subconscious being tasked with achieving them as goals, and they will be responded to accordingly by virtue of how much it tries to resist or escape in some way.

The wall is there to prevent you from escaping through things like masturbation. It is an aspect of ASS/ART, but not by itself the end-all be-all.

When I figure out what is allowing people to do the things they do in response to a script that should already be producing results for everyone, I close that gate or loophole. Then the subconscious tries to find or create another. This is a game that I will eventually win, because eventually there will be none left. Whatever it can do, I can figure out and un-do. And by doing it, it reveals what can be done, and eventually, how. I will win.

Of course it seems unlikely that I will ever achieve 100% execution for 100% of the users, if only because once I achieve say 95% the return on energy and time invested to get that last 5% is no longer worth the cost to me. At that point, those who continue to choose to fail will be given my blessing to enjoy their failure, and the rest of us will move on to 6G.
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