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Ultra Success update was mentioned. It got me thinking how I purchased an early version of that & ASC from Lulu several years ago . I even remember the old website Shannon had
Quote:Haven't been on the forum for a while and might be asking a question that has been answered before: does anybody have an update (potential release date) of the DMSI progress to version 3.3?

Shannon hasn't mentioned anything on it yet.
(05-06-2018, 03:51 PM)Jason Capital Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-06-2018, 05:53 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-06-2018, 05:33 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon

I thought I should report on something that I think might give some benefit on future versions in regards to fear based resistance. I had a dream earlier this week that seemed enlightening to where some of this resistance is coming from, at least for me. I will try to keep it short. Basically I was driving on the highway to some woman's house who I cared for because there was like some "outbreak" of some "monsters" in some lab in the city we were in. I get to her house but by the time I get there the city, maybe the entire country, is overrun so we are trapped in the house. The monsters from what I could tell from the outline of them from the window they were big titan like beings. Apparently there were smaller but still tall, think 6'5, type monsters as well though.

As time went on they kept on breaking in from different portions of the house so the area we got pushed to the center of the house and locked up in there, like the living room or something like that. Now this is the interesting part, the last door towards the front of the house is about to be gone so I go up against it try to keep it from bursting open even though the nails are literally coming off the hinges. At this point I didn't really see what the tall monsters looked like but the image in my mind was of pretty much of giant 6'5 ape type creatures that are highly intelligent. I get this dialogue in my head of what is is saying which is essentially, "Don't worry about the women we will take care of them. You aren't needed anymore". The voice just causes terrifying fear in me and I know its hopeless as I feel i'm going to loose keeping them out at any moment then I wake up in my bed in a position as though I'm holding up against a door on my side.

I have never had this much fear in a dream before. The main thing I got from it though was that I think my subconscious identifies with my current beliefs so much as to see them as "me". Essentially these current beliefs are my "identity". Therefore I surmised that is sees the 3.2 instructions as trying to "kill me" because it is trying to change those beliefs that I identify so much with. I also realized there could be a secondary thing to take away from this which is that It sees becoming what is needed in order achieve the goals of 3.2 is dangerous not only to myself, by killing "me", but also to women. I could assume this is do to years of indoctrination into being a beta and cuck by all forms of media (toxic masculinity, etc).

In all it seems like whether its afraid of death because some women "might" give me suicidal thoughts or that I will be "dead" (current belief me) if I accept the beliefs of 3.2, there always seems to be some belief that I'm going to die if I execute, which obviously is totally irrational. Just thought I should report this seeing as this seems to be a recurring theme that keeps coming up. This idea that I'm going to die one way or another if I accept and execute the script.

P.S. I did feel in the dream there were other people in that room though they felt mostly female. Also, for some reason I can't remember if my mother was in that room as well, I thought she was but wasn't sure.

Interesting information. That should not be happening, as the scripting is designed not to "kill the resisting parts and replace them" but to remove the fear and adjust them to a state of understanding that aligns with achieving the goals of the program. Those parts are not being attacked, killed, replaced, erased, etc., they're being asked to outgrow the fear and get with the program.

The only thing I can think of is that the fear is an irrational response of an irrational portion of your awareness, which experiences an irrational "logic" in terms of explaining for itself what is going on. I'm not sure how to deal with that (or fear, fully) right now.

But I appreciate you reporting this, I will take note of it and review it when the time comes to rebuild it.

I myself have experienced this kinda dreams many times. One in the first week of B in Feb. And then two or three in March End when A was released.

Basically the theme was that the army of soldiers were trying to kill me for something. I would manage to get past them somehow, but as soon as I think I've been saved, they would immediately somehow come out of nowhere, and they seem to exactly know where I am or at least they come in my direction, where I am hiding. Sometimes they are not aware of where I am hiding, but they start coming in the direction where I'm. And in just a few seconds or minutes, they would find me. And the running gets exhausting and the army seems to be increasing moment by moment. No matter what I do, they are ready to kill me, and when I tried to ask what did I do to get this treatment? (paraphrasing) they wouldn't reply or respond. They would just come and try to kill me.

And when I can't seem to get away from them, I would wake up, and I would find myself sweating like a pig, and my whole body is covered in sweat.

I had that kinda dream during my SM3 run, where the whole tribe tried to hang me for adultery or something like that.

So, I don't know what exactly can be done to overcome this. But I think that asking this part of myself to gently understand the logic or make it feel comfortable so that it wants to cooperate instead of running for its life. Like going through surgery. One doesn't like that process, or taking pills orally or injection etc, once accepts it because of consent. So if Shannon you can make the resisting parts understand the goals of the program are very safe and necessary thing to do. It would be much better approach instead of marching through mud. Because fear of death if it is induced, mind will do anything to get away from that.

I had a dream in 3.1 where I had actually killed an old guy, which I felt horrible after because I thought I am serial killer, but I found out that it must be because of my old programming is removed etc.

I would appreciate your thoughts in this regard.

So can you include something that makes the person trying to kill me in dreams to communicate like a doctor instead of executioner. That might be the key to overcoming resistance. (metaphorically)

Obviously the parts of your subconscious generating the dream are afraid of changing, and are equating it with death.

I'm contemplating how to change this interpretation, since it's entirely irrational given what's actually in the script.
How’s Beast 16 coming along?
(05-06-2018, 08:33 PM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ]I haven't seen that, but for some reason I keep having dreams where I'm in the army. Its pretty much every night, and that was not so before 3.2. Can't really remember much details, except from last night. There's small parts of getting sexy attention from females dispersed between various other content - usually the women parts are kinda side roles. Then there's warring and fighting and whatever drama.

This would likely be the part of the script pushing you to fully execute.
Yesterday, I played 2 Loops of DMSI A-US-Track.....Today I feel like a Vegetable. I guess I set volume too high yesterday..
Hi Shannon, im having my one day break tomorow and have been doing 2 loops for the last 7 days on track a this week, im going to try b after tomorow, and going to keep staying with 2 loops.

Would it be less effective to do one loop morning and one at night compared to 2 together, just so far even at 2 loops continuously no changes can be noticed so was thinking to do it that way but if suggest staying with 2 together will do that.
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DMSI? LolLolLol
Damn.. whar a nutter. Shes definately got those crazy eyes.
(05-11-2018, 02:10 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Yesterday, I played 2 Loops of DMSI A-US-Track.....Today I feel like a Vegetable. I guess I set volume too high yesterday..

Two loops a day of DMSI 3.2 is not a light workout. There's a reason I said 1 a day in the instructions.
(05-11-2018, 03:10 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, im having my one day break tomorow and have been doing 2 loops for the last 7 days on track a this week, im going to try b after tomorow, and going to keep staying with 2 loops.

Would it be less effective to do one loop morning and one at night compared to 2 together, just so far even at 2 loops continuously no changes can be noticed so was thinking to do it that way but if suggest staying with 2 together will do that.

Always use DMSI with all loops contiguous (back to back) or you are damaging the primary ASRB if you use more than one loop. So yes, breaking up the loops is less effective.
(05-11-2018, 06:24 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-11-2018, 02:10 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Yesterday, I played 2 Loops of DMSI A-US-Track.....Today I feel like a Vegetable. I guess I set volume too high yesterday..

Two loops a day of DMSI 3.2 is not a light workout. There's a reason I said 1 a day in the instructions.

Shannon I think DMSI is way too strong to be used everyday, speaking in terms of results..
(05-11-2018, 08:23 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-11-2018, 06:24 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-11-2018, 02:10 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Yesterday, I played 2 Loops of DMSI A-US-Track.....Today I feel like a Vegetable. I guess I set volume too high yesterday..

Two loops a day of DMSI 3.2 is not a light workout. There's a reason I said 1 a day in the instructions.

Shannon I think DMSI is way too strong to be used everyday, speaking in terms of results..

Secondary ASRB calculations would have been a lot closer to 1:1 if that were the case for a majority of people.
(05-12-2018, 02:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-11-2018, 08:23 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-11-2018, 06:24 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-11-2018, 02:10 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Yesterday, I played 2 Loops of DMSI A-US-Track.....Today I feel like a Vegetable. I guess I set volume too high yesterday..

Two loops a day of DMSI 3.2 is not a light workout. There's a reason I said 1 a day in the instructions.

Shannon I think DMSI is way too strong to be used everyday, speaking in terms of results..

Secondary ASRB calculations would have been a lot closer to 1:1 if that were the case for a majority of people.

Maybe I’m a special case then, I am a person who do not like being told what to do. In fact I don’t like it all to the point even if something I wanted to do but someone else told me to do it I’ll do the opposite.
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