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(10-19-2018, 04:06 PM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-19-2018, 01:49 PM)brightike Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-19-2018, 09:57 AM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-19-2018, 09:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-19-2018, 09:37 AM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]I actually thought about that. I already experience the frustration so it'd be more like balancing out on both sides.

And I guess I misunderstood the post above, my bad. I appreciate the time and effort you're putting into 3.3, take as much time as you like.

Taking as much time as I like would mean we had 2-3 more months of work on DMSI 3.3. That's not reasonable, given how much crap has already delayed us. So I've decided that I'm going to tie up whatever loose ends are left and start building it around the 20th of November, if it's not ready to build for some reason before that.

I would say take 2-3 months if needed then see how well it works. That would save you time for 3.4

Save time for 3.4??? The testing process has been around 3-6 months per version...

I meant the development time for 3.4. If Shannon doesn't add them now, he'll eventually have to add a couple extra months to work on them anyway in 3.4. Why not do it now and make 3.3 as near perfect as possible?

The issue isn't time to develop DMSI, the issue is interruptions, delays, failures, frustrations, etc.

That will not be happening for much longer, so we should be able to go back to a 2-3 month cycle between builds after December.
US/LM2 Update- 9 Days in

I gotta say Shannon, this new FRM seems to be JUST what I needed to start getting me past this vicious cycle of fear and negativity ive been recently facing in life.

I have noticed that overall my anxiety/fear has seemed to have noticeably reduced in regards to the specific issues I have been suffering with. I have been feeling more relaxed overall, a lighter "good feeling" sense about me more of the time. I have also been feeling more hopeful for the future and confident in who I am.

I have FINALLY gotten a sense of relief from the great mental and emotional turmoil ive been going through for the past few months, and I think I owe a big part of it to you and US/LM2!

Thank you Shannon!

VERY excited to see how this continues to play out and to continue to progress to new uncharted heights going forward! #crushingfearonadaily
@Shannon Hey Buddy

Ive been on UMOP for 34days so far of which 15 have been 5loops. - no change as yet.

Did the models give any indication when I could see some change if any or is it simply a case of a change would be since anytime upto day 90?

Based on this do you feel the FRM would help me at all?

thanks in advance
Will USLM2 A will released after DMSI or somewhere in between? I am asking because it seems that B is like in v1 bringing all the unlucky events and circumstances back in my life where A did very well and removed these unpleasant side effects.
@Shannon Out of curiosity, do you work with unconscious 'archetypes' in our collective psyche when you make subs?

Thanks
I also don't know if its because Im consciously working on them or because of FRM seems to be working. Or maybe its both working synergistically together in some way.
(10-20-2018, 05:35 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Hey Buddy

Ive been on UMOP for 34days so far of which 15 have been 5loops. - no change as yet.

Did the models give any indication when I could see some change if any or is it simply a case of a change would be since anytime upto day 90?

Based on this do you feel the FRM would help me at all?

thanks in advance

They did not indicate when - only that 5 loops should be your second best results. I did not model anything else. I am of the opinion that you have done what I expected you to do, which is, you simply responded to what was forecast for you by adjusting to negate it. I had the feeling that you would do that, and that you would therefore "get no results".

I have run the models again on your situation, and they now show total failure for you at 5 loops per day. That would be what was expected if you were to adjust to the static 5 loops per day to intentionally prevent it from working.

I believe the FRM would help you immensely, as long as it was sufficiently advanced. I don't know if V2 would help you. But it is worth a shot, as is v3, which will be in DMSI 3.3. If you would like to try USLM2 for a while and see if FRMv2 helps, that could be helpful. But the choice of what to do is up to you, but I definitely want to see what DMSI 3.3 does for you when it comes out.
(10-20-2018, 11:49 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]Will USLM2 A will released after DMSI or somewhere in between? I am asking because it seems that B is like in v1 bringing all the unlucky events and circumstances back in my life where A did very well and removed these unpleasant side effects.

If USLM A is released, it will probably be after DMSI 3.3, as I want to see what happens given a reasonable amount of time for B to work on cases like yours, instead of running off to use A.

"Unlucky events" is reverse resistance, especially since that is specifically going against the instructions of at least one module in the script. Reverse resistance is a fear based response. So let's give the FRM more time and see what happens.
(10-20-2018, 02:13 PM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Out of curiosity, do you work with unconscious 'archetypes' in our collective psyche when you make subs?

Thanks

Not directly. But because the scripting is self optimizing/polymorphic, that is a possible result, regardless.
Quote:Not directly. But because the scripting is self optimizing/polymorphic, that is a possible result, regardless.

Hey Shannon I had an idea since this statement from you reminded me of something, just hope I could put it in the right words. I remember in the upgrade version of BASE you had added something like a Polymorphic Aura that would change based on what you needed when interacting with people to move your business forward. I was wondering if you had thought about putting something similar in the LTU? Not in as just a thing needed for business situations but a Polymorphic aura that might be aimed at more at the goals of LTU? Maybe the goal might be a polymorphic aura that will be based on what you need/want when interacting with people to move your life forward? Or maybe what you would need/want to upgrade your life in any area? I hope I put that in the right words.

Also, I could see one other benefit of this. Since I assume LTU will be out after 3.3, you could probably see what is happening 3.3 and if you see the Aura still needs some adjustments or there might be some new ideas you have that you want to test out you could test out those ideas in the aura for LTU instead. You could look at the reports on LTU aura then use that feedback to fine tune things for 3.4. Obviously, the LTU aura and DMSI aura are different but maybe the principles behind them could be similar? I don't know, it was just an idea I had. Also, don't know if anyone else might want a LTU that might be somewhat draining to them due to an Aura component being added to LTU.
Will there be a E3 soon?
(10-20-2018, 08:20 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2018, 05:35 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Hey Buddy

Ive been on UMOP for 34days so far of which 15 have been 5loops. - no change as yet.

Did the models give any indication when I could see some change if any or is it simply a case of a change would be since anytime upto day 90?

Based on this do you feel the FRM would help me at all?

thanks in advance

They did not indicate when - only that 5 loops should be your second best results. I did not model anything else. I am of the opinion that you have done what I expected you to do, which is, you simply responded to what was forecast for you by adjusting to negate it. I had the feeling that you would do that, and that you would therefore "get no results".

I have run the models again on your situation, and they now show total failure for you at 5 loops per day. That would be what was expected if you were to adjust to the static 5 loops per day to intentionally prevent it from working.

I believe the FRM would help you immensely, as long as it was sufficiently advanced. I don't know if V2 would help you. But it is worth a shot, as is v3, which will be in DMSI 3.3. If you would like to try USLM2 for a while and see if FRMv2 helps, that could be helpful. But the choice of what to do is up to you, but I definitely want to see what DMSI 3.3 does for you when it comes out.
Thanks for taking the time to reply as always @Shannon

1) Can I get my money back therefore for UMOP as it hasnt worked after following instructions? if not then must I use it for 90days for this since we both now know it will only fail for me?

2) I understand. I havent intentionally done anything except tried both 3 loops and then 5 loops and just sad its not worked even now. I have shared whatever data I thought I could and should as always and will remain to do this openly going forward too so please do watch for my next journal.

3) Since you want me to try FRM, isnt it possible my subconscious will do the same as it has with 5loops and negate that because you have said try FRM? or am I misunderstanding things here?


4) I feel based on many factors which ill share, that its best I wait for DMSI 3.3 rather than jump onto USLM2 in haste:

a) I know of 1 member that has had reversal resistance on USLM2, and presume as i am a difficult resistant type that thus it may not work for me. (I read posts and came across 1 member but dont read everything so apologise if there are more with resistance on USLM2)

b) I would much rather go for the stronger tech than try and hope that FRM.v2 works. I have in the past chosen subs for a purpose but then jumped onto DMSI for the sole reason of trying to get to the tech that will assist me to execute and only jumped onto UMOP as this was and had always been the 1 sub that I knew I needed most of all. Alas now im back at square 1 so thus will only remain on DMSI until we get me executing.

c) 3.3 will start build around 20th November you said, so makes better sense to wait for that.

d) For me USLM2's effects would be a tricky one to notice, I feel. I feel overall that im a fortunate and lucky guy. At times things just happen for me and I notice these things and then show gratitude each and everytime that it happened. Therefore unless I win the lottery which I dont play or suddenly come into wealth of some large extreme measure I wouldnt be able to notice execution of this sub I feel thus much better to try 3.3 as its results will be beyond obvious in terms of not fapping, not wasting time with porn, getting fitter physically, eating right, looking after myself and overall and most of all getting female attention and females trying to get me.

e) Both YOU and I are eager to see how 3.3 with the v3 of FRM works on me.


5) Shall I therefore take 35days break now in anticipation of DMSI 3.3?

6) When DMSI 3.3 is made and released, would it be better I start the same as every one else or would you prefer to perform a modelling forecast for me with it, so we can hit the ground running at the best number of loops?

I am glad that I didnt in haste spend more money on devices to try the 11loop since now we know (though im not fully sure how) that my subconscious will negate any effects you inform me of. I dont recall you telling me anything about 5loops or 11loops except that the models said that they would work really well and to me this is no different to each and every time I have bought a sub, with the proviso that the sub will work 100% as the sales page suggests it would. Therefore I hope that whatever the issues are for me not executing can be resolved with your help.

My goal is same as yours, to get past whatever obstacles are preventing me from fully executing so that you can make the best subs on the planet and I can of course execute and benefit. If you recall the 1 time I am 100% sure that I executed was on 1 loops with headphones on 3.2. I still believe 1 loop with headphones perhaps is the best way for me to execute but im throwing this in there incase its data you can consider for me.

That being said, thank you for allowing me to be part of this journey with IML and even though im sad about UMOP, after 3 years im still optimistic that I can be helped.


Thanks in advance buddy!

addendum:
I just realised that I havent noticed any TID from 3.3 so does this mean I already wont execute that too? Sad
(10-21-2018, 03:30 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2018, 08:20 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2018, 05:35 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Hey Buddy

Ive been on UMOP for 34days so far of which 15 have been 5loops. - no change as yet.

Did the models give any indication when I could see some change if any or is it simply a case of a change would be since anytime upto day 90?

Based on this do you feel the FRM would help me at all?

thanks in advance

They did not indicate when - only that 5 loops should be your second best results. I did not model anything else. I am of the opinion that you have done what I expected you to do, which is, you simply responded to what was forecast for you by adjusting to negate it. I had the feeling that you would do that, and that you would therefore "get no results".

I have run the models again on your situation, and they now show total failure for you at 5 loops per day. That would be what was expected if you were to adjust to the static 5 loops per day to intentionally prevent it from working.

I believe the FRM would help you immensely, as long as it was sufficiently advanced. I don't know if V2 would help you. But it is worth a shot, as is v3, which will be in DMSI 3.3. If you would like to try USLM2 for a while and see if FRMv2 helps, that could be helpful. But the choice of what to do is up to you, but I definitely want to see what DMSI 3.3 does for you when it comes out.
Thanks for taking the time to reply as always @Shannon

1) Can I get my money back therefore for UMOP as it hasnt worked after following instructions? if not then must I use it for 90days for this since we both now know it will only fail for me?

2) I understand. I havent intentionally done anything except tried both 3 loops and then 5 loops and just sad its not worked even now. I have shared whatever data I thought I could and should as always and will remain to do this openly going forward too so please do watch for my next journal.

3) Since you want me to try FRM, isnt it possible my subconscious will do the same as it has with 5loops and negate that because you have said try FRM? or am I misunderstanding things here?


4) I feel based on many factors which ill share, that its best I wait for DMSI 3.3 rather than jump onto USLM2 in haste:

a) I know of 1 member that has had reversal resistance on USLM2, and presume as i am a difficult resistant type that thus it may not work for me. (I read posts and came across 1 member but dont read everything so apologise if there are more with resistance on USLM2)

b) I would much rather go for the stronger tech than try and hope that FRM.v2 works. I have in the past chosen subs for a purpose but then jumped onto DMSI for the sole reason of trying to get to the tech that will assist me to execute and only jumped onto UMOP as this was and had always been the 1 sub that I knew I needed most of all. Alas now im back at square 1 so thus will only remain on DMSI until we get me executing.

c) 3.3 will start build around 20th November you said, so makes better sense to wait for that.

d) For me USLM2's effects would be a tricky one to notice, I feel. I feel overall that im a fortunate and lucky guy. At times things just happen for me and I notice these things and then show gratitude each and everytime that it happened. Therefore unless I win the lottery which I dont play or suddenly come into wealth of some large extreme measure I wouldnt be able to notice execution of this sub I feel thus much better to try 3.3 as its results will be beyond obvious in terms of not fapping, not wasting time with porn, getting fitter physically, eating right, looking after myself and overall and most of all getting female attention and females trying to get me.

e) Both YOU and I are eager to see how 3.3 with the v3 of FRM works on me.


5) Shall I therefore take 35days break now in anticipation of DMSI 3.3?

6) When DMSI 3.3 is made and released, would it be better I start the same as every one else or would you prefer to perform a modelling forecast for me with it, so we can hit the ground running at the best number of loops?

I am glad that I didnt in haste spend more money on devices to try the 11loop since now we know (though im not fully sure how) that my subconscious will negate any effects you inform me of. I dont recall you telling me anything about 5loops or 11loops except that the models said that they would work really well and to me this is no different to each and every time I have bought a sub, with the proviso that the sub will work 100% as the sales page suggests it would. Therefore I hope that whatever the issues are for me not executing can be resolved with your help.

My goal is same as yours, to get past whatever obstacles are preventing me from fully executing so that you can make the best subs on the planet and I can of course execute and benefit. If you recall the 1 time I am 100% sure that I executed was on 1 loops with headphones on 3.2. I still believe 1 loop with headphones perhaps is the best way for me to execute but im throwing this in there incase its data you can consider for me.

That being said, thank you for allowing me to be part of this journey with IML and even though im sad about UMOP, after 3 years im still optimistic that I can be helped.


Thanks in advance buddy!

addendum:
I just realised that I havent noticed any TID from 3.3 so does this mean I already wont execute that too? Sad

Jake, you are trying everything to prove it does not work and you also don't want to give it time to work. These programs need consistency. It is not a quick fix.
The programs with FRM might help more, but why not just run UMOP for 3 months?

My main question is: How bad do you want to succeed?
Really bad? Or just to show that you tried and failed? If it is the second one then you pattern might also show up when you use DMSI. You are now in a very resistant phase. I would nearly go as far to say that you are very close to executing, because your subconscious tries to fight with tooth an nail it tries to drive you into hopelessness and makes you want to give up. Just finish the three months, otherwise you will never find out if it had worked or not.
(10-20-2018, 08:22 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]"Unlucky events" is reverse resistance, especially since that is specifically going against the instructions of at least one module in the script. Reverse resistance is a fear based response. So let's give the FRM more time and see what happens.

Maybe it is execution according to current beliefs. I just remembered some things I have been always told in my childhood like "We are not lucky, others are" and "Everything good has its price". I somehow got ultra success in creating unlucky events.
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