Quote:I will leave the decision as to whether or not to use the AS in 3.3 up to the models. If they show me that it is safe and beneficial to turn it off, then I will. If not, then you will have the AS balancing the AF. Let's face it, turning off fear means you have to think, and in "I'm horny!" mode, most people simply don't.
I think I can get behind whatever the models say on this. Also, something else you said actually made this discussion make more sense and it does put things in a different light. I guess I was "assuming" (Incorrectly) that since I have enough common sense that over rides my attraction to a woman that most people would have that. I've noticed particularly over the years that if a woman acts crazy or disrespectful enough my attraction goes down and then I just cut her out of my life with no problem really. Its now at a level where I can end a relationship and then not even be affected the next day.
I know what you mean now though, not everyone can get cut things off or get over things that easily. Nor do they have the experience sometimes to over ride when they are in "horny mode" in order to make a good rational decision. Either way, you do need to make the product work for most people and I guess having the models decide things when it comes to the AS would be best.
(09-20-2018, 06:53 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You are misunderstanding the situation. There is only one safety. It is used throughout the program to prevent the program from becoming dangerous to the user. The issue was that the safety was worded such that it could be interpreted that executing something that was considered dangerous simply because you had a fear of it, when it wasn't actually dangerous, was allowing people do do exactly that.
I changed it. Now the safety does what it was originally intended to do, it prevents executing the program itself from potentially damaging the user. It doesn't allow you to refuse to execute because the goals seem scary anymore.
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Shannon,
In what cases for example would you say it becomes potentially damaging for the user, that the script stops executing?
Also regarding script execution, I have a suspicion that ever since a married woman hitted on me (on v3.1) and I rejected her advances, execution became less & less frequent. Could it be the subconscious is using this as an escape route to avoid execution with the premise that "if I execute, married would go after me". Of course I can simply reject her, but the subconscious is not logical.
(09-20-2018, 12:06 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 01:00 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (09-20-2018, 12:06 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Please do us all a favor, Sarge. Don't reproduce until you outgrow this level of maturity. This is going to make for some seriously ***** up children, and we don't need more of those in this world.
Lol wow. F*ck you too. That's all I have to say to that.
On this one, I stepped over the line, and I apologize. As I said recently in my journal post, I am out of balance right now and when I am out of balance while dealing with grief, I tend to do and say things that are inappropriate, uncalibrated, and sometimes just stupid. This is one of those times. My apologies.
I appreciate that Shannon, thank you. I did not see your recent journal post. I'm sorry for your troubles. May I also say I admire your ability to keep things from spiraling out of control in this instance.
(09-20-2018, 12:06 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-20-2018, 08:20 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (09-20-2018, 06:33 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 01:00 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Agree with DarkXedonias.
I even remember people harping on me for getting sexual with that herpes girl and yet I'm STD free. Not condoning my actions, rather pointing out that if you're careful you will be fine.
As for the fear of "drama". Come on guys, who here is an alpha male? If you consider yourself one then grow a spine and deal with the women as an alpha would. Alphas don't need anti-snipers.
That's like saying "real men don't need safeties on their BFG 9000's!" But I'll tell you, a "real man" has the wisdom to choose his safety and health over "being a real man" to some other guy. Maybe if you find yourself wishing there had been an anti-sniper you'll understand some day.
Maybe, but I'd much rather learn to ride a bike than spend a lifetime on training wheels.
There's a big difference between a safety mechanism and "training wheels". Using the gun analogy again, there is a reason most guns have a manual safety. It prevents a negligent discharge. That has nothing to do with training.
I see. Well, I guess we'll have to see what you decide.
(09-20-2018, 12:06 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 06:45 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (09-20-2018, 06:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 06:45 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 06:19 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]
Dealing with "drama" when it comes to women is almost always inevitable and something you'll have to deal with accordingly especially if you're talking about dealing with multiple women which is what I assume most guys. Is it something that would be cool NOT to have to deal with and have supportive women around you akin to what @mat422 said? Absolutely. No doubt...after DMSI has proven it can accomplish it's goals first.
/\ This.
I know for a fact my subconscious (and my conscious, if I'm honest) uses that as a good reason to not execute. Who has time for women and their shit let's be honest. I know I sure don't. But a guy has to get laid, and have children someday (I do actually want children someday). So it comes with the territory.
Also, in terms of what Enki was saying "If only women were like..." he seems to be describing a GUY. GUYS are like that quite often, women are NOT it's just nature.
So Sarge, if you know and admit that you are consciously resisting... WHY USE THE DAMNED THING?!
Am I the only one using it despite knowing I resist? Singling me out again. Triggered Shannon is back ladies and gents.
This is a helpful response, Sarge. I'm asking you why you're using it if you know you are consciously resisting. Consciously resisting is a whole different ball game than subconsciously resisting. Why would you bother trying to use it if you know you are resisting at a conscious level? That's not something you can sweep under the carpet with "But it's my subconscious, and I don't know how to do anything about it!" Consciously resisting is just trying to fail, intentionally. At that point, logic dictates that you are wasting your time, and the question of why you are bothering becomes a valid and reasonable one.
I don't mean I'm consciously resisting in the way of getting up in the morning and saying "I will resist today", what I mean is, most women (99-100% of them) to me are too much trouble/headache to deal with. So I consciously choose to not get involved with most of them as soon as any resistance or shit tests are thrown around.
I guess I'm hoping 1 of 2 things with DMSI:
1. It will be powerful enough to have the women I want keep that kind of behavior under wraps while with me
2. DMSI will help me embrace and learn to deal with it.
It is that specific behavior that is "unhappiness causing" (as well as a list of others) which is why I think the anti-sniper should be removed in THAT (read: "unhappiness causing") regard. As I've said repeatedly elsewhere for anyone just reading this argument: I do not oppose the AS for physical threats, prison, STD's, pregnancy, false rape charges, things of THAT nature. But being annoyed because girls don't use a male communication style? That IS unhappiness causing for ME (as an example, there are more I assure you), but it's not a valid reason for the AS imo. Hope that clears things up for everyone.
It is also why I believe I've done better with 3.2 because it doesn't have the AS and I've actually been trying to interact with more women even after they do shit that irks me (read: always).
Still, I recall you saying Shannon that DMSI is aimed at getting the girls we want to use male communication styles to get with us, which would be great. But I do think the AS is subject to abuse in that regard.
(09-19-2018, 04:59 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-18-2018, 09:41 AM)Williamx25 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon
I started to listen to MLS 5.5G, I'm only a few minutes in of my daily 4 loops and I noticed something.
I hear a constant trickling stream with a constant volume and after 20-30 sec I get a drop in volume or something. It's a constant volume with descents in the volume, is this how the program is supposed to work?
I downloaded the FLAC file and I've uploaded the file to my Iphone 8 plus on VLC player.
Could someone chime in and tell me what's wrong with the file? I don't hear a constant volume, I keep getting drops in volume, minor drops for like 1 sec.
Have you checked the MD5Sums?
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Shannon
I don't get it, what do you mean with the MD5Sums? the notes that come with the zip files? What is MD5SUms?
(09-20-2018, 01:06 PM)Williamx25 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 04:59 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-18-2018, 09:41 AM)Williamx25 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon
I started to listen to MLS 5.5G, I'm only a few minutes in of my daily 4 loops and I noticed something.
I hear a constant trickling stream with a constant volume and after 20-30 sec I get a drop in volume or something. It's a constant volume with descents in the volume, is this how the program is supposed to work?
I downloaded the FLAC file and I've uploaded the file to my Iphone 8 plus on VLC player.
Could someone chime in and tell me what's wrong with the file? I don't hear a constant volume, I keep getting drops in volume, minor drops for like 1 sec.
Have you checked the MD5Sums?
@Shannon
I don't get it, what do you mean with the MD5Sums? the notes that come with the zip files? What is MD5SUms?
It's basically a way for you to verify that the file you downloaded is "byte for byte" the same as it was originally created. Errors can sometimes happen when you download/write the file onto your hard drive. There are other potential reasons as well. Those errors can cause audio glitches. There is a more detailed explanation in the FAQ section under "About Subliminals", and download links for the software are included there as well.
And I know what you're saying, I'm getting those as well with the trickling stream version. And I'm using a different subliminal. I think that is because the masked audio of the stream is looped and the beginning and the end don't align perfectly with each other.
I haven't verified my copy yet.
EDIT: Mine matched
(09-20-2018, 06:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 09:51 PM)Djinnni Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 12:53 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]I rather have the power spent on trying to get these other men not to get in physical fights with me and persuade them to become co-operative instead.
Agreed - Can we extend this to actively 'cuckold' the partner (CTP)? 
This was - I hope - a joke.
Remember that whatever you can "do to them", can also happen to you. And given my experience with "what comes around, goes around - it will.
Yes Indeed it was a joke. I'm all about what goes around comes around.
(09-20-2018, 06:59 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-20-2018, 06:53 AM)Darkness Wrote: [ -> ] (09-20-2018, 06:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 12:53 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 11:42 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]On the other hand the guys who want it sound like they are too fearful.
I have to agree here with Sarge, though I will be careful in the way I say this. This isn't meant as a flame (which obviously would break the rules) and I hope it isn't taken that way. I'm just going to point out a few things:
(1) I remember when it was announced that the AS wouldn't be in 3.2 and it seemed like some of the forums were upset saying this would be a bad decision. Well, 3.2 came out without the AS and nothing bad happened that I have recalled to the people who actually executed (I would include myself there when I went on my trip). If a woman started acting uppity I know for myself I would just break contact with her and move on to the next woman. Its not that hard to do. When you have the power in the relationship, higher value, and know you have an abundance of options its not that hard to leave someone really. As for STDs/HIV I think some here will remember that I gave a complete chard on the chances of condom breaking (Which you should be wearing one anyway) and you sleeping with someone who has STDs/HIV is very stupidly low and is the chance of them having a sexual disease is highly depended on how many sexual partners they have had in the past.
You can't know what the AS was or was not doing because we don't have sufficient execution to reveal that yet.
Quote:(2) My rational is in align with Catman's pretty much. Lets worry about actually having everyone execute first before we waste power on something we aren't even sure we even need. If Crazy women start becoming a problem (which I don't know why you can't deal with that in the first place) then we can consider using some power for that. As someone else mentioned I rather have the power spent on trying to get these other men not to get in physical fights with me and persuade them to become co-operative instead. That seems to be a bigger problem (which has been said in journals for quite a while now) then having to deal with crazy women and the low chances of encountering someone with a sexual disease. Did you know that the Prevalence rate of HIV/AIDs in the US, for example, is only .30% of the population. So chances of a condom breaking ( seen anywhere from 10-15%) and you having sex with a person from that group (only .30% of the population) is stupidly low. For Europe its mostly even lower.
The world is not the United States. AIDS is not the only dangerous STD.
Quote:(3) If It comes to a point where it becomes a problem I would like to add a nice suggestion , similar to what I suggested the last time this subject came up, why not have some kind of "Spider sense" as it were. Where the subconscious notices that there is something wrong with this woman and then communicates to your conscious that there is something wrong with this particular person. It could just be an intuitive feeling that something is wrong with the person for example. At that point the user has the option to proceed or reject the person at their leisure. Problem is solved without stepping on people's toes. Granted, I could see a issue with that suggest as well. What if the subconscious resists by giving false positives? Though that could be said of the AS being used by resistance (haven't experienced it myself but Catman could have it right on this point).
This works great, in theory., Then you have reality, where people do things like Sarge did, where they get horny, they stop thinking and they do things that they would not necessarily have done under rational thought. Most guys do that at least once in their lives, and it can result in some pretty nasty stuff. Sarge got very lucky. So Spidey Sense doesn't matter for shit if you're sufficiently hormonal and horny. That's why I didn't use that in the first place.
On the intuition tip, I disagree. On SM, when the intuition kicked in and said don’t trust her, I followed it and it was beforehand right on meeting her.
If so make the intuition senses so strong so loud that they can’t ever be ignored.
So the user is still universally massively attractive and has sharp instincts sexually.
So you assume that everyone thinks, perceives and responds the way you do, then. They don't. There are people out there as dumb and stubborn as granite boulders, and people smarter than I will ever have the hope to be and everything in between. I have to make it work for all of them. I have to consider all of them. And they don't all have the same balance of awareness of instincts, logic, common sense, education, or intelligence.
So you can't assume that just because it worked for you, or didn't, that it is the best overall choice.
I don’t understand your stance
It isn’t assumption in any regard . Considering a couple posts back you stated that the Anti sniper module was using the subconscious mind’s capability of knowing/sensing with accurate determination whether the person attracted to the user is good/bad news for the user.
So, an intuition/instinctive mechanism innate in all persons, why would it not work yet an energy costing, function contradictory, more complex option be more a viable over a more enhanced simpler one ?
(09-20-2018, 12:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-20-2018, 09:48 AM)Broski Wrote: [ -> ] (09-20-2018, 06:28 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 08:37 AM)Broski Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 04:57 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]So basically you have a fear based feedback loop that you have focused on yourself, for infinite replay-ability. Congrats, you're afraid of yourself.
How many loops a day are you using USLM for?
I don't think there is a need to make fun of me/the situation. I am trying to be honest and open with you here and don't really appreciate that. It's not like I intentionally tried to create the situation and it hasn't exactly been pleasant. I have been doing 1 loop a day.
I apologize for the tone of the post, there was no insult or negativity intended. When I wrote that I was simply at my wit's end with how things have been going lately and I was about to lose it. I had to spend most of yesterday trying to come back from that state, in fact, so I could remain functional. So please don't take it as being sarcasm or nastiness, it wasn't.
Okay, so at one loop per day you're having an extreme fear response, and this is being triggered by your fears based on the psychology class you took. That is a complex issue right there.
Have you attempted more than 1 loop per day?
It is okay Shannon. I appreciate the apology. I hope everything going on with you turns around soon and you start feeling better. I THINK it is from psychology class that is at least my best guess. I don;t know though if something might have happened earlier in my life also that caused me to react in the way i did to it. I have been only doing one loop because I see myself as a "control freak" type and figured more would NOT be better in that case. The weird thing is this fear really started popping up strongly again the day BEFORE I started running US/LM. Could that be TID resistance?
That would absolutely be TID resistance.
It is worth noting that 7 loops was recommended for those who did not do well with one loop.
In some cases, more loops causes execution and bypassing of issues because there is enough of the exposure to do so. I suggest you switch to 7 loops and see what happens.
And I understand you have fears, but seriously, give 7 loops a serious, significant chance.
Tomorrow starts my 2 off days, but after that I will give 7 loops a shot and report back with how it seems to affect me.
(09-15-2018, 08:33 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2018, 08:33 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2018, 06:39 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2018, 07:31 PM)jonathan4all Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon please empower DMSI 3.3, USLM and UMOP with Beast17.
I built B17 instead of working on DMSI 3.3 so that I could work on getting some things from B17 into the skeleton script for 3.3. Not everything, there's too much else to do on 3.3. But some of the most important things.
USLM and UMOP will get those additions when we upgrade them to 6G.
Cool, Any thing besides the fear removal at your looking at improving from dmsi 3.3 from B17?
There will be a number of modules that make it from B17 to 3.3 if they work. What they do is... wait for it... secret.
Quote: Also anything learned Anti-Sniper Module being turned off in 3.2?
I learned that no matter what, you guys won't be happy.
(09-20-2018, 06:43 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 02:54 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 11:51 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 06:21 AM)Roy Wrote: [ -> ] (09-19-2018, 05:58 AM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty much this. It makes life more exciting and "forces" you to be responsible yourself. Like now im feeling everyone being attracted to me. Also, the gf of a friend of mine is showing increasing IOIs, starstruck trance moments. I just dont do anything with her, because idgaf if something happens or not.
It might be also one of the reasons I feel DMSI 3.2 is stronger.
Getting STDs and rape charges doesn't make life exciting.Dealing with insane women doesn't make life better.Anti sniper is for extreme cases.
^^This. I have been for a while with a girl on chat who said she separated from her bf. But two days ago she sounded like there have been somehow together (again?). And somehow she said he has been very jealous and stuff and wanted my contact details and she gave him. Well, I didn't hear from that guy (maybe USLM saved me, lol) and I don't know what will happen but THAT is some of the situations I would like an anti-sniper for. Only for extreme cases, not this unhappiness stuff which was well meant but too vague and would probably lead to everyone inexperienced to some degrading results.
Ideally, one would get the goals of the program, with none of the more extreme drama.
I dread thinking about these kind of possibilities.
I honestly cannot tell which women are toxic and which aren’t, until I get to know them, and by then it could be too late to avoid drama.
I already got a false accusation against me from a woman I knew for about 4 years, and she seemed perfectly nice, friendly and goodwilled over those 4 years. It was a very hurtful shock to be called into a meeting with my manager (and manager’s manager) with nasty accusations against me.
This woman had no obvious red flags. Nothing about her said ‘crazy’.
You, subconsciously, can sense which women are what, and to what degree. That's how the AS works in the first place.
I too have had a woman I was warned about, and vetted for fully 4 years, turn on me in a vicious way, after spending those 4 years testing her and coming to trust her. This is why you need the AS.
I will leave the decision as to whether or not to use the AS in 3.3 up to the models. If they show me that it is safe and beneficial to turn it off, then I will. If not, then you will have the AS balancing the AF. Let's face it, turning off fear means you have to think, and in "I'm horny!" mode, most people simply don't.
I think it's a mixed bag as at best like you i had a girl i had been with for years turn on me in a bad way. that being said it has opened doors to girls that yes had problems but caused us to move forward since 3.2 before that nothing ever happened. So i say leave it out and just have to deal with the possibility that a few crazy girls pop up or some girl turns on ya. Cause it's worth the risk.
I saw you post about not being sure about what’s happening to you. Yesterday I though (without seeing that’s lost) that I liked how you were being more blunt and transparent with your opinions with others, previously being just diplomatic and purely logical (which personally I have understood, but though lacked your personal opinion in the case of the matter). Maybe not just negative changes?
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Shannon I understand that you are extremely busy and I apologize for the off topic question below . Feel free to ignore it. Just took the courtesy as you are the only expert I know that can reply with a reliable answer.
There are many subliminal software that are all about flashing affirmations every second on your screen for a duration of 0.02 secs so that you can see it but not read it. Are they worth it at all? If I use such a software for 30 affirmations, for 90 days and sit on my computer for like 5-6 hours per day will it result in programming the subconscious at all?
I've been away for 3 months and I'm astounded at the amount of growth I can see in some of the members here.
Well done to all
So I've been off 3.2 since 10th of August. Lately I've been feeling lots of unexplainable tiredness... +lots of crazy dreams. So ether it runs past 35 days... Or how far is the new version? Tid? By the way I consider myself rather sensitive in this area... I see future dreams quite often, on subliminals or not.
