Subliminal Talk

Oh shit fam lets gooooo

Thank you @Shannon!

*rubs hands together quickly with a mischievous grin*

Thanks for the release, Shannon and the IML squad!

Enjoy your steaks and naps.

EDIT

One question: DMSI 3.3 is still employing the "morphine drip" thingy, correct? Because it sure feels like it.

Thanks Shannon! Dl/ing now.

(12-07-2018, 12:09 AM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-06-2018, 01:03 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-06-2018, 11:56 AM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:I forgot to mention this earlier, but I was looking into what MD5Sum uses for checksumming, and discovered that:

A) It does not take into account the name or metadata of the file (like tags on an audio file), and
B) it is difficult, but not impossible, to fake an MD5 Sum hash signature

So, from now on, we will be calculating an MD5 Sum Hash value and an SHA512 Sum hash value. The latter is a bit for bit check, and if ANYTHING changes, it will change, and it is cryptographically secure, meaning that there is no known way to fake it. So you will have proof positive that the files are exactly as I made them, and NOTHING has been changed, if that is what you seek.

So at first you didn't really care about checking files integrity for audio as you didn't provide any checksum and your reasoning made sense at the time.
But now MD5 isn't sufficient, there is a need for SHA512??
Seriously??
You are sounding like someone trying trick people that because it is cryptographically secure then it is perfect. I'm not sure you are doing it but it seems to be that from reading that text. I hope it's not.

I don't know why someone like you who could put anything in your subs without anyone knowing would fake an MD5 checksum, please enlighten me

I don't think you're understanding.

In the beginning, I didn't know that checksums would be worthwhile because nobody asked for them. Then someone asked how they could know if they had downloaded the file correctly, so I started making MD5Sum hashes of the files.

Later I discovered that that program doesn't take into account changes to the name and metadata, meaning that someone could scrub those and re-sell my work as their own and it would remain capable of reproducing the same MD5Sum hash.

Now, to make sure that people cannot do that, I provide both.

It's not me who would fake an MD5sum hash. It would be someone who altered the file and then adjusted it so you get the same hash, which would hide the alteration.

SHA512 or 256 will reveal such a thing, because it cannot be faked by a pirate or someone who is trying to alter the files.

I have no reason to even try to fake a signature. Those signatures are your guarantee that the file is exactly as I created it, and unaltered. That's why md5sum is insufficient, given those weaknesses.

Now it's more clear, it's for protecting your work.

I still don't understand how SHA512 would protect it more though. At best it would help the pirates in my opinion as now with your checksum they know if their pirated version is the same as the original. So they don't need to download the original and pay for it as it is now cryptographically secure for them that it is the same version.

But I don't understand how that SHA512 would prevent them from reselling your work. Maybe if they just don't mention the existence of SHA512 checksum to begin with.

It doesn't seem be that useful in my opinion or I don't understand something.

Now it can be proven whether or not the files have been changed. It can also be shown whether the filenames and tags were changed, but not the original audio. And if they have the original names and tags but they don't match either checksum, it can be seen that they are corrupt.

It's not just for protecting my work, it's also for protecting my customers.

SHA won't prevent those thieves who are reselling my work from doing so, but it will give me an avenue to prove what is going on.

Ultimately, it's about protecting my customers by making sure that they have what I released, and not something else that is labeled as such.

(12-07-2018, 02:45 AM)TugaInVegas Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-07-2018, 02:43 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Wait DMSI-3.3 is available? I thought you guys were joking.. I was expecting alot of hype, but looks like Shannon kept everything under control.

Time to return to DMSI again

LET'S GO BABYYYY

Edit:Btw, it's 5 loops per day and the secondary ARSB is 5:2

Amazing how you guys have such a hard time reading the product page that you just assume that I never gave a loops and ASRB2.

(12-07-2018, 06:29 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-07-2018, 02:45 AM)TugaInVegas Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-07-2018, 02:43 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Wait DMSI-3.3 is available? I thought you guys were joking.. I was expecting alot of hype, but looks like Shannon kept everything under control.

Time to return to DMSI again

LET'S GO BABYYYY

Edit:Btw, it's 5 loops per day and the secondary ARSB is 5:2

Amazing how you guys have such a hard time reading the product page that you just assume that I never gave a loops and ASRB2.

Before anyone starts asking it, i just wrote it there

(12-06-2018, 05:08 PM)JakeKennedy Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I have experienced great value from USLM1-3 and genuinely appreciate the free upgrades. Personally I would be more than happy to pay for a USLM4 5.5g and again for a 6g version. If you produce USLM4 is your business. If not I will just run another one of your (LTU or UMS) amazing subs until the 6g version. Your efforts have already greatly enriched my life and are much appreciated. Thanks Shannon.

I totally concur Jake Kennedy!! I swear. Shannon's programs are thee best thats out there!! I've used Subliminals since 1985 - I have used tons of different subliminal makers...at one point I had almost 500 different subliminasl-mainly in CASSETTE mode,yes cassettes....NONE of these Sub Maker's EVER had a website forum or direct feedback from the creator of the programs,much less an on going forum to post our experience,concerns,questions.
We are sooo damn fortunate..to even live at this time,much less be this conscious, this lucky to utilize these programs. Our parents and grandparents didnt have these kinds of technologies available to them.
IM kinda pissed off this morning and a bit frustrated,because of some of the bitchin' pissin' and moanin about how the programs 'dont work' and related. fuk! then go create the shit yourself Man, do a better job!!
USLM3 is fukin changing my life in ways I can hardly describe!! and others as well!! Slowly lessening my suffer too!!
WE have sooo much to be grateful for... go live on the pine ridge reservation,in south dakota, for a year,man! try that shit out or venuzela for a year!! YOU be soo greatefu to be back to your regualr Life,you'd kiss the ground in thankfulness!! or to even have the money to afford this good shit!! I Love IML's work.... yes I've had my issues with Shannon and Ben,IML but that doesnt mean,I stopped or am unappreciative of what all they do and what they';re trying to do.I am sooo friggin grateful it almost hurts!! As an Alpha Male,I feel protective of my 'pack',and they are part of my pack,I know I Know they're grown ass Men,I still feel that way,not with standing. IML's programs 'are da shit,man!" IDGF what they say.I think WHEN I hit MY goals(Monetary Success) be with with USLM3 or USLM4 or Ultra Monetary Success,BAMM ect. IM gonna cry for a week,after all the shit and suffering I've been thru-through out my Life on Earth!! the journey continues. Vent Over!! Keith.

(12-07-2018, 06:42 AM)TugaInVegas Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-07-2018, 06:29 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-07-2018, 02:45 AM)TugaInVegas Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-07-2018, 02:43 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Wait DMSI-3.3 is available? I thought you guys were joking.. I was expecting alot of hype, but looks like Shannon kept everything under control.

Time to return to DMSI again

LET'S GO BABYYYY

Edit:Btw, it's 5 loops per day and the secondary ARSB is 5:2

Amazing how you guys have such a hard time reading the product page that you just assume that I never gave a loops and ASRB2.

Before anyone starts asking it, i just wrote it there

Yes, that's what I was commenting on, you were the first to figure that out, when several said they couldn't use it before you.

Thank you for reading the instructions. lol I guess this shows just how little people actually do that.

Im really enjoying 3.3 D Shannon. Thank you for the hard work. It already picks up and gains momentum.

(12-07-2018, 07:03 AM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]Im really enjoying 3.3 D Shannon. Thank you for the hard work. It already picks up and gains momentum.

I think you'll find this version is significantly different than anything that has come before it. I'll let you figure out the difference, because I want to let you guys have the joy of discovering this one without hype.

Wow... awesome!! with the New release of DMSI 3.3,that means you take a break for however many days that is and then you begin your high level work on LTU, thusly and then E3,then USM!! wow. brighter days ahead to say da least!! Really look forward to seeing what the Men here post about their NEW experiences with DMSI 3.3.

Hi Shannon, with the 5 loops i started mine at 8pm tonight so finishes around 1.30am, now i started it at that time do i have to do all 5 days at that time or wont matter too much if i started a bit earlier?

I think on 3.2 cant remember for certain thats why asking but you wanted us to try and use it at the same time each day to have the 24 hour break between? Is that still necessary or just get the 5 loops done in a row but at any time we are able to each day for the 5 days?

Thanks.

Anyone jumping on DMSI 3.3 should consider waiting until Sunday. 5:2 is perfect... you would run it Sunday through Thursday, then have Friday and Saturday all for yourself. Rinse and repeat.