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(07-12-2018, 11:07 PM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]So Shannon, I was stonewalling hardcore and with the learning approach I’ve developed with MLS i was able to frame it as a chance to learn - and what I came up with was that I couldn’t accept that if I’m not smart then I won’t be good enough for the world and I won’t be acceptable or competent. I also found that I couldn’t accept the possibility that no one will like me, people will try to hurt me, and failure is possible.


It was acceptance (and the experiencing of a deep grief) over these possibilities which seemed to move me forward and open me up to the counter possibilities, allowing me to re engage with the sub. At least I think that’s what happened - is this something intended? I don’t get all the psychological underpinnings of this but could you illucidate what that’s all about please? Does it boil down to what you resist persists or is there something more?

Thank ye muchly

The program is designed to find your reasons for resisting and process them, heal them, clear them and move you on to executing.
(07-15-2018, 06:14 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]To All

I wanted to ask if anyone that is listening to (multiple) 7 loops of 3.2 witnessed at the start an increase in masturbation or behaviour that was being controlled with 1 loop?

thanks

I've masturbated twice and spent an entire day watching porn after starting 7 loops of B
(07-13-2018, 03:15 PM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon What are the things you are thinking of adding on to DMSI 3.3? Thanks

I have a list of additions as long as my arm. lol I want some of them to be a pleasant surprise that I tell you about when I release the program, but a few from the list include...
  • Prevent unwanted conception.
  • Improve anti-STD programming.
  • Make it win-win for the user and the affected to execute.
  • Improve adjustment of self image to be congruent with what DMSI is attempting to achieve.
  • Make your actions and choices congruent with celebrity.
  • Prevent hiring a hooker or an escort to pay your way to sex as an escape from executing DMSI.
  • Adjust the perception of the goals of the program to make them reasonable, natural, possible.
  • Modulate the effects of the entire aura to make them non-threatening on a case by case basis.
  • Improve disconnect from negativity programming.
  • Communicate to all layers and levels of awareness that you consciously want to achieve the goals of this program, and are giving yourself permission to do so.

I'll stop there. There's a lot more, of course. I have been gathering ideas from the forum discussions for a while now. The really interesting stuff will remain a secret, at least for now.
(07-13-2018, 03:26 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, just want to find out alpha male v6, is 5g and dmsi is 5.5g, i bought dmsi to help with attraction from women but even on 7 loops of 3.2b they dont even glance in my direction when only metres away.

Would a 5g alpha male work better for me or would i be best waiting for the next version of alpha male and hope that 3.3 dmsi will help get past any subconscious resistance stopping the attraction from happening.

I cant tell if its resistance stopping the script from executing since cant feel any different after many months, so would i have the same troubles with alpha male if the technology in dmsi is a lot stronger?

Today is a good example at the gym 2 very attractive women, one i have spoken to a couple times briefly the other yet to speak with but had the opportunity today when a spare machine was available next to her instead i just walked past and left instead of spending a few minutes on the machine making conversation. The other one i was thinking of going over and saying hi even though had headphones in but still chose not to. Neither of them looked in my direction or noticed i was there.

These are 2 women if could get the sniper part to work would be ones i would want it to work on but so far nothing, so not sure what is best whether to try alpha male the version out now which is meant to help with having a lot of confidence to be able to act on those thoughts without hesitating but dmsi is meant to also have that in it too with the self esteem and self confidence.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

thanks.

If you are getting absolutely no results even at 7 loops, I have to ask the following:

How long have you been using 7 loops?
Why are you using B instead of A when you are stonewalling this hard? Stonewalling is an obstacle, and represents something that will most likely benefit from A side's healing and clearing instructions.

AM6 is much older technology, and if you are resisting DMSI 3.2 at that high a loop count, then you will just be likely to ignore AM6 as well on whatever it is instructing you do do that touches on things you are afraid of.
(07-14-2018, 03:23 AM)Morgul Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-14-2018, 03:05 AM)DarkPlouf Wrote: [ -> ]Sarge is running DMSI for years though...Isn't the program supposed to clear barriers, resistance and such?
Meh in one hand I understand Sarge, PUA seem to have worked for him, PUA being a hack or not, he gave him some results. Would you rather sit down doing nothing waiting for DMSI to "clear" the barrier or do any shit you can to help with it?
Most people running DMSI for such a long time still find them in that same emotional and restrictive state.

That's the issue with taking the path of "healing". Feeling that you aren't ready until you heal. With that mentality, you're going to wait all your lifetime.

Shannon says to not try to clear things on our own (or at least not with any mind programming, or mind altering, no EFT tapping...), and let the sub do it, to not interfere. But I never follow that advice for long, because to me it's more important to become free, successful, and have what I want, than to wait and see how the subliminal solves it all subconsciously. I can't wait that long, I am committed to myself and my life.

So by doing that you invalidate the ability to know what DMSI is and is not doing, and slow me down from achieving the development it needs. That is a big part of the problem we have here, I never know if what you guys report is DMSI or something else you're doing that I don't know about.

I give those instructions for good reasons. Disregarding them slows down development. That's why we are stretching on into years now.
(07-15-2018, 08:05 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-13-2018, 03:15 PM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon What are the things you are thinking of adding on to DMSI 3.3? Thanks

I have a list of additions as long as my arm. lol I want some of them to be a pleasant surprise that I tell you about when I release the program, but a few from the list include...
  • Prevent unwanted conception.
  • Improve anti-STD programming.
  • Make it win-win for the user and the affected to execute.
  • Improve adjustment of self image to be congruent with what DMSI is attempting to achieve.
  • Make your actions and choices congruent with celebrity.
  • Prevent hiring a hooker or an escort to pay your way to sex as an escape from executing DMSI.
  • Adjust the perception of the goals of the program to make them reasonable, natural, possible.
  • Modulate the effects of the entire aura to make them non-threatening on a case by case basis.
  • Improve disconnect from negativity programming.
  • Communicate to all layers and levels of awareness that you consciously want to achieve the goals of this program, and are giving yourself permission to do so.

I'll stop there. There's a lot more, of course. I have been gathering ideas from the forum discussions for a while now. The really interesting stuff will remain a secret, at least for now.

You forget faps and Porn... lol
(07-14-2018, 04:57 AM)guybrush Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-14-2018, 02:27 AM)Morgul Wrote: [ -> ]With PUA you are doing this:

You --- \ Unnatural connection (but partly natural as well) forced, via unnatural tricks
-------- # to bypass your negative mindset about yourself, which is reinforced by
Women / this kind of actions


The thing that you cannot see is the --------- barrier, the one that prevents you from having and seeing natural attraction with women, where you literally have to do nothing to find that attraction. You need to question and challenge the mindset you keep about yourself that you normally cannot see it. It's faith that you have about you not being attractive to women all on your own, without having to do any actions; and who knows which other kind of negative layers, such as shame, guilt, sex not being okay, sexuality doesn't just "happen"...

If you think logically, you will be able to easily admit that you believe things like "I am not attractive to women just by myself". Correct? Well, those are the kind of beliefs that conform that barrier. "Women don't want me" is a big one for you, it seems, because you mentioned that it hurts... removing this particular belief, and clearing the emotions of that pain, will do wonders for you (my guess, knowing how these things work).

Morgul's explanation about believes and reinforcing that barrier is kind of related to something I have been pondering lately.

Basically, DMSI creates insane amounts of attraction in women around me, but as a result, I'm developing a belief that it is all fake and they are not really attracted to me, but to the aura that DMSI creates (based on the HUGELY obvious difference in attraction between with and without DMSI). So in a kind of convoluted way, it reinforces my believes such as "I am not attractive to women just by myself" and I'm only bypassing that barrier in an unnatural way. Have thoughts like this occured to anyone else here?

I'm using ver. A by the way.

Developing a belief that it is all fake is a resistance tactic. It's not all fake; it's just you executing an instruction set that tells you to make yourself more sexually attractive. That is... you. It's a resistance by a point of view you hold about yourself that "I am not really this attractive". It's a clever way to get you to try to discount and invalidate the results and self-de-motivate.
(07-15-2018, 12:48 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Not seen much of the celeb effect in the current version of DMSI unless the celeb effect is part of women being drawn to you and hovering around you ?

Hmmm. Let's think, shall we? How would women respond to, I don't know, a celebrity, Thor? Would they be drawn to him and hover around him?

I think they would.

There's your celebrity effect.
(07-15-2018, 06:02 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, I had a few questions if you don't mind.

(1) Since you'll be working on the focus fire subs soon have you decided on which ones you will be making? Like if its a combo if it will be US/LM or US/UM?

I know I want to make US/LM. I have also been contemplating attempting to make a sleep aid upgrade, but that's not a certainty at all. Aside from that, haven't had a chance to think about it or do anything about it yet.

Quote:(2) I remember you saying reality bending makes it so that what was impossible before happens and it happens a lot more often. In regards of what this would mean for the LM of the combo (if you go that route) that the "lucky" occurrences will probably be more improbable lucky incidences if properly executed?

Reality bending is designed to create a situation in which you make certain adjustments that result in the goals of the program. It's aimed not so much at magnifying the effects of the program, but the effectiveness of the program in achieving its goals. It is for the most part ASS/ART. The magnitude of "luck" is handled by something else.

Quote:(3) You already mentioned before that 3.3 will be more focused on the affected side of things (improving the aura, energy sourcing, etc). Will you also be focusing on adding as many as possible of the 130+ metrics you discovered that women use for basing their attraction on?

I am going to try to focus on that and implementing the ASS/ART additions I have come up with so far, and after that I will be implementing as much as I can from the list. Those 130 metrics are not necessarily direct translation to executable statements, and they will probably be added in 3.4, unless I decide to skip 3.4 and just keep going on 3.3 until everything is added and finished. I am trying to make the program as balanced as possible before I add them, so we can just add them and "fuck shit up".

Quote:Thanks for your hard work on this. Hope you enjoyed your time off.

Time off? Oh, right, I was supposed to get time off, wasn't I? lol Of the four days I took off, I really had what amounted to about a day of rest, but because of how it was cobbled together, probably not even that much.

Such is life, I guess. But thank you. Smile
(07-15-2018, 08:16 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-15-2018, 08:05 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-13-2018, 03:15 PM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon What are the things you are thinking of adding on to DMSI 3.3? Thanks

I have a list of additions as long as my arm. lol I want some of them to be a pleasant surprise that I tell you about when I release the program, but a few from the list include...
  • Prevent unwanted conception.
  • Improve anti-STD programming.
  • Make it win-win for the user and the affected to execute.
  • Improve adjustment of self image to be congruent with what DMSI is attempting to achieve.
  • Make your actions and choices congruent with celebrity.
  • Prevent hiring a hooker or an escort to pay your way to sex as an escape from executing DMSI.
  • Adjust the perception of the goals of the program to make them reasonable, natural, possible.
  • Modulate the effects of the entire aura to make them non-threatening on a case by case basis.
  • Improve disconnect from negativity programming.
  • Communicate to all layers and levels of awareness that you consciously want to achieve the goals of this program, and are giving yourself permission to do so.

I'll stop there. There's a lot more, of course. I have been gathering ideas from the forum discussions for a while now. The really interesting stuff will remain a secret, at least for now.

You forget faps and Porn... lol

That's already in there. The improvement of ASS/ART will hopefully take care of that.
(07-15-2018, 08:05 AM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-15-2018, 06:14 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]To All

I wanted to ask if anyone that is listening to (multiple) 7 loops of 3.2 witnessed at the start an increase in masturbation or behaviour that was being controlled with 1 loop?

thanks

I've masturbated twice and spent an entire day watching porn after starting 7 loops of B

Actions speak louder than words.
(07-15-2018, 08:16 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-15-2018, 08:05 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-13-2018, 03:15 PM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon What are the things you are thinking of adding on to DMSI 3.3? Thanks

I have a list of additions as long as my arm. lol I want some of them to be a pleasant surprise that I tell you about when I release the program, but a few from the list include...
  • Prevent unwanted conception.
  • Improve anti-STD programming.
  • Make it win-win for the user and the affected to execute.
  • Improve adjustment of self image to be congruent with what DMSI is attempting to achieve.
  • Make your actions and choices congruent with celebrity.
  • Prevent hiring a hooker or an escort to pay your way to sex as an escape from executing DMSI.
  • Adjust the perception of the goals of the program to make them reasonable, natural, possible.
  • Modulate the effects of the entire aura to make them non-threatening on a case by case basis.
  • Improve disconnect from negativity programming.
  • Communicate to all layers and levels of awareness that you consciously want to achieve the goals of this program, and are giving yourself permission to do so.

I'll stop there. There's a lot more, of course. I have been gathering ideas from the forum discussions for a while now. The really interesting stuff will remain a secret, at least for now.

You forget faps and Porn... lol

maybe thats already taken care of but strippers/lap dancers also needs a consideration?

I would ask procrastination and fears as a big one if its not there already of course lol

anything to help resistors and stonewallers and those partial executors too please.

Something I find confusing is how people go out at night, to say clubs etc which is the social norm in western society to meet people and then be sleep deprived.

Since DMSI requires good sleep nutrition etc then is it possible to add something that enables us to not have to go out or stay out late and yet draw to us the very people we want and are attracted too?

1 more suggestion is to have us be able to attract to us with the power of DMSI those females we like secretly, such as the friends we find hot, or the girl we see at a shop. Like a distant magnet, we think of the girl we like and boom shes drawn to us physically and chases us.

hope all that made sense and is possible Smile
(07-15-2018, 08:05 AM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-15-2018, 06:14 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]To All

I wanted to ask if anyone that is listening to (multiple) 7 loops of 3.2 witnessed at the start an increase in masturbation or behaviour that was being controlled with 1 loop?

thanks

I've masturbated twice and spent an entire day watching porn after starting 7 loops of B

Ok phew thats reassuring to hear buddy!!
(07-15-2018, 08:29 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ][quote='DarthXedonias' pid='200856' dateline='1531663338']
Hey Shannon, I had a few questions if you don't mind.

(1) Since you'll be working on the focus fire subs soon have you decided on which ones you will be making? Like if its a combo if it will be US/LM or US/UM?

I know I want to make US/LM. I have also been contemplating attempting to make a sleep aid upgrade, but that's not a certainty at all. Aside from that, haven't had a chance to think about it or do anything about it yet.

Quote:(2) I remember you saying reality bending makes it so that what was impossible before happens and it happens a lot more often. In regards of what this would mean for the LM of the combo (if you go that route) that the "lucky" occurrences will probably be more improbable lucky incidences if properly executed?

Reality bending is designed to create a situation in which you make certain adjustments that result in the goals of the program. It's aimed not so much at magnifying the effects of the program, but the effectiveness of the program in achieving its goals. It is for the most part ASS/ART. The magnitude of "luck" is handled by something else.



So I guess “luck” as what would appear in LM would have its own separate dynamic apart from reality bending?

Is LM essentially probability manipulation?
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