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(01-27-2019, 10:29 PM)lano1106 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

I am about to finish AM6 (roughly 2 weeks left!). My plan is to follow up with SM3 but I had this idea sometime today and I am seeking your opinion on it.

during my first run of DMSI, I kinda discovered that I resisted the script. Since then I realized that there might be some sexuality related fears hiding deep in my mind.

So my question is, would it be a good idea to do a short DMSI run between AM6 and SM3 to eliminate any fears lurking in my mind with your new FRM in order to better benefit the SM3 programming with a fear clear mind?

If it sounds like a good idea, please help me set some of the plan parameters such as:

- DMSI run minimal length for permanent fear removal
- How many weeks of break between DMSI and SM3
- Would I need a AM6 Stage 7 refresher before returning to SM3? If yes for how long?

thank you Shannon for your insights

What version of DMSI did you run last to discover this?

If I were you, I would run DMSI latest for at least 3 months and then assess the situation. I would take 1 week break from AM6 before doing so. If I was to return to SM3 then I would run AM6 Stage 7 for a month before doing so.

What do you expect to get from running SM3 after DMSI?
(01-28-2019, 03:32 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I do have one more question if you have the time to answer and its similar to something I have asked before but it was before you even started working on LTU. Do you think LTU would probably help with say completing a education program or helping you to improve your work so you move up financially? I ask because even after I get to Korea I plan on potentially getting a second Bachelors so I can get a remote software job for really good pay and be able to live where I want. Do you think LTU might be good for accomplishing this given some of the things in it? (Like OP, US, LM, etc). Also, do you think even though something like MLS isn't directly in the sub that you might still get similar benefits due to the OE directing you in the right direction? I think I remember you saying that last part might be possible.

When did you decide to run and hide from DMSI? Have you tried 3.3.1 yet?

If I can get LTU balanced correctly, it will hit you like a tornado. It will be simultaneously doing a massive job of H&C and motivating you to succeed and act and detox and all kinds of other things at the same time. It may be something that you can be active and effective through, and it may take some time to get to that point; I don't know yet. I also still don't know how to make the OP title play nice, although I should be very close to finishing that. OE directs you to achieve the goals of the program, not your conscious goals.

Tell me more about why you aren't doing DMSI.
(01-28-2019, 06:41 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]When did you decide to run and hide from DMSI? Have you tried 3.3.1 yet?

If I can get LTU balanced correctly, it will hit you like a tornado. It will be simultaneously doing a massive job of H&C and motivating you to succeed and act and detox and all kinds of other things at the same time. It may be something that you can be active and effective through, and it may take some time to get to that point; I don't know yet. I also still don't know how to make the OP title play nice, although I should be very close to finishing that. OE directs you to achieve the goals of the program, not your conscious goals.

Tell me more about why you aren't doing DMSI.

Oh, I'm still running DMSI and I haven't missed a day yet. I won't go into too much detail but I know for a fact that this version of FRM is the turning point for me where change can actually happen. Lets just say I had an event happen while I was listening earlier where a part of me finally got tired of being in control of everything and it finally just let go. That is the best way I can put it in an expedient way without going into Journal level details (which I will later after I sleep, i'm too tired at the moment). Anyway, it just let go and is just willing to let the sub do what it will. I am noticing slight changes after I wake up as well to my mentality little by little as well. Sorry, if I haven't reported yet but wanted to at least wait a week before hand. Also, btw no porn used since I've started the sub either even though it has gone through my mind every once in a while but to no affect.

As for asking about LTU that had more to do with my studying at the moment.. which still hasn't gone anywhere currently. I will give a better write up when I wake up though I haven't slept all night.
I think a better course of action is to let DMSI finish doing it's thing.
Hey @Shannon - I made this suggestion a while back; that a sense of self efficacy/competence was central to having any sort of well being.

Further to this, a sense of competence would come primarily from a well functioning, rational mind with high levels of intelligence and ability to learn, as such the cognitive enhancement from MLS and improvement in ones ability to think /learn would be really important for LTU. At the time you said these were good ideas but it was too early to be worrying about what goes into LTU - hopefully now it's a better time.
(01-28-2019, 07:34 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]Hey @Shannon - I made this suggestion a while back; that a sense of self efficacy/competence was central to having any sort of well being.

Further to this, a sense of competence would come primarily from a well functioning, rational mind with high levels of intelligence and ability to learn, as such the cognitive enhancement from MLS and improvement in ones ability to think /learn would be really important for LTU. At the time you said these were good ideas but it was too early to be worrying about what goes into LTU - hopefully now it's a better time.

Thanks for the reminder. I'll look into that.
(01-28-2019, 07:34 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]Hey @Shannon - I made this suggestion a while back; that a sense of self efficacy/competence was central to having any sort of well being.

Further to this, a sense of competence would come primarily from a well functioning, rational mind with high levels of intelligence and ability to learn, as such the cognitive enhancement from MLS and improvement in ones ability to think /learn would be really important for LTU. At the time you said these were good ideas but it was too early to be worrying about what goes into LTU - hopefully now it's a better time.

Have you read Nathaniel Brandens book "six pillars of self esteem"? It covers that topic pretty good. Energy wise that is connected to your solar plexus Chakra if you are interested.
Yup - that's where the terminology and idea came from, and SE/MLS helped me find and implement it. When I work on manipura (assume that's what you're talking about) it's quite a harsh energy and I become a bit unbalanced/aggressive - happy to hear any tips if you could pm them though.
(01-28-2019, 08:46 AM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-28-2019, 07:34 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]Hey @Shannon - I made this suggestion a while back; that a sense of self efficacy/competence was central to having any sort of well being.

Further to this, a sense of competence would come primarily from a well functioning, rational mind with high levels of intelligence and ability to learn, as such the cognitive enhancement from MLS and improvement in ones ability to think /learn would be really important for LTU. At the time you said these were good ideas but it was too early to be worrying about what goes into LTU - hopefully now it's a better time.

Have you read Nathaniel Brandens book "six pillars of self esteem"? It covers that topic pretty good. Energy wise that is connected to your solar plexus Chakra if you are interested.

I did read that book and I concur that it is probably the best resource to understand what self-esteem really is.

Plus every chapters ends with automatic writing behavior introspection questions?

To me, it is a candy field for someone looking for ideas for good self-esteem related affirmations...
(01-28-2019, 06:37 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2019, 10:29 PM)lano1106 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

I am about to finish AM6 (roughly 2 weeks left!). My plan is to follow up with SM3 but I had this idea sometime today and I am seeking your opinion on it.

during my first run of DMSI, I kinda discovered that I resisted the script. Since then I realized that there might be some sexuality related fears hiding deep in my mind.

So my question is, would it be a good idea to do a short DMSI run between AM6 and SM3 to eliminate any fears lurking in my mind with your new FRM in order to better benefit the SM3 programming with a fear clear mind?

If it sounds like a good idea, please help me set some of the plan parameters such as:

- DMSI run minimal length for permanent fear removal
- How many weeks of break between DMSI and SM3
- Would I need a AM6 Stage 7 refresher before returning to SM3? If yes for how long?

thank you Shannon for your insights

What version of DMSI did you run last to discover this?

If I were you, I would run DMSI latest for at least 3 months and then assess the situation. I would take 1 week break from AM6 before doing so. If I was to return to SM3 then I would run AM6 Stage 7 for a month before doing so.

What do you expect to get from running SM3 after DMSI?

Last DMSI version used was 3.2

thank you very much for your suggestion. I am definitely curious to see if your new FRM can have a positive impact on me so I will follow it.

To answer your question... I am not that much into the result itself. It is not just having sex for the sake of having sex. I understand that DMSI is very flexible in which ways the result is obtained.

I want to get the result in a very specific way. The SM3 way. The only thing that I am after is to develop as much as possible my raw masculine polarity. I want specific instructions to alter my behavior to continue my AM journey in the sexual realm. This desire probably come from my childhood where I did lack a strong masculine model by being raised by a feminist single mom.

but of course... I may reevaluate my position depending of where I am after 3 months of DMSI usage...
And, a new version of DMSI/FRM may come out during that time, as well.
(01-28-2019, 06:32 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2019, 07:26 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, is there any good reason to switch from DMSI to E3 with the intention of “clearing the path” for DMSI?

I’m pretty sure it’s not but just want to be sure.

Sure. If you want to run from DMSI, that's a great excuse for doing so. It sounds like it makes great sense, too.

E3 is healing and clearing, and we have already established that the best way forward is going to be FRM on it's own. If the root is fear, then you pull out the root. Anything and everything else is going to be an escape mechanism.

Then what is the purpose of E3? Surely it must have it's uses, otherwise you wouldn't bother with it.

Does DMSI have any modules to deal with toxic shame for instance, or emotional scars from past bullying and abuse, or perfectionism, or approval seeking, or for increased emotional maturity?
(01-28-2019, 10:27 AM)DMSIuser78 Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-28-2019, 06:32 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-27-2019, 07:26 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, is there any good reason to switch from DMSI to E3 with the intention of “clearing the path” for DMSI?

I’m pretty sure it’s not but just want to be sure.

Sure. If you want to run from DMSI, that's a great excuse for doing so. It sounds like it makes great sense, too.

E3 is healing and clearing, and we have already established that the best way forward is going to be FRM on it's own. If the root is fear, then you pull out the root. Anything and everything else is going to be an escape mechanism.

Then what is the purpose of E3? Surely it must have it's uses, otherwise you wouldn't bother with it.

H&C and FRM are both valid on their own, but H&C fails for removing fear. FRM takes over for that.

E3 is designed to trigger emotional healing and provide protection from the pain of doing so.

Both may have effects that overlap, but FRM is designed to prevent people from escaping execution for the excuse of "I need more healing and clearing". E3 is designed so that execution IS healing and clearing.

Quote:Does DMSI have any modules to deal with toxic shame for instance, or emotional scars from past bullying and abuse, or perfectionism, or approval seeking, or for increased emotional maturity?

DMSI can deal with any and all of those, but uses self optimizing polymorphic scripting to do so, with the exception of perfectionism, self criticism and maturity.
Out of context but I just wanna let you guys know that.... I went under full psychiatric evaluation and I just got diagnosed with severe case of OCD. I knew I had OCD but not at a level I thought.

Now that I think of it most of my behaviors/habits make sense. I also told them that I just subliminal, affirmations and hypnotherapy for overcoming various issues. Thanks Shannon btw.

Now I am.gonna have to go for psychotherapy session. Idk what kinda talk they do in there but who cares.

I asked the Psychiatrist to help me with Memory and Focus issues as I really struggle with it and he said within a month I will start noticing improvement in my cognitive functions. I was like okay.. One month is like nothing to me... I can wait..
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