(06-03-2018, 03:53 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon
Thanks for your advice, opinions and fascinating discussion(s) about AYPs.
Quote:I didn’t say a FWB would be likely to hurt you.
That is good to hear. I assume all manifestations of AYP programs (my perfect FWB, sexual lover, etc) would be very unlikely to hurt the person who manifests them (AYP sub user).
It depends on the relationship. It isn't going to be a thing to expect right away, but over the course of any relationship, you can get hurt if you aren't growing with the person, in the same direction.
Quote:Quote:However, who do you think is more likely to hurt you? A friend, or someone who is deeply concerned with your emotional and sexual health and well-being?
One thing I didn’t fully consider - and that is STIs. I assume that my perfect FWB (and, in fact, all manifestations of AYPs) are 100% clean and healthy in terms of STIs.
What exactly do you mean by sexual health?
Is there any other, possibly subtle, considerations to sexual health beyond STIs?
They would be clean or they wouldn't be perfect, but that doesn't mean you are careless.
Sexual health refers to how she handles your experience and inexperience, your feelings concerning, sex, etc. When you find someone who cares, she's not going to go hurt you or make fun of you if you can't get it up because you're afraid of something, for example. She'll be understanding instead.
Quote:Quote:It’s just common sense that someone who is more invested in you will be safer than someone who is not.
I thought that manifestation (especially AYP) would create a strong connection between the ‘primary manifestation’ and ‘AYP user’, and that this would naturally cause the manifestation(s) to be greatly invested in the ‘AYP user’ / person who manifested them.
Would a perfect FWB naturally be greatly invested in the ‘AYP FWB user’?
The connection between friends is not the same as between someone who is romantically or otherwise emotionally involved. Friends do not tend to be invested in you like romantic partners, etc.
A friend with benefits will tend to be a friend with whom you have sex. There isn't going to be a lot of investment.
Quote:Do AYPs (when successful) strongly bind the ‘sub user’ and AYP manifestation(s), to one another?
It depends on what the key is you are attempting to manifest.
Quote:Quote:Most people are deeply affected by sex
Could you please explain this point further.
I thought that sexual intercourse was fairly straight-forward.
There is a big difference between having sex and making love. If all you want is the physical act of sex, then AYFWB is perfect. If you want some emotional involvement in your sex, then AYFWB is going to get you hurt. You're missing out if you only want the sex act.
Quote:How is the typical male deeply affected by sex?
The typical male is taught that his emotions don't matter and he has no emotions, so the typical male typically has no idea that the sex act itself, devoid of emotional intimacy, can be emotionally damaging. The fact that most guys don't realize they are potentially hurting themselves by just fucking, doesn't mean it's not affecting them. It tends to feed into the devaluation of the self and the woman, though.
Quote:Quote:and sex with someone you’re only friends with is a good way to have a sub-par first experience
Do you mean sub-par as in awkward, sloppy sex? Or that she will be too rough? She won’t take time to teach me how to have proficient sex? She won’t want to have sex with me?
I mean, friends with benefits sex is supposed to relieve sexual tension and be fun. It is not supposed to be patient, emotionally supportive, emotionally considerate, involving, caring, etc. Your first time is going to be best with someone who is being considerate, understanding, thoughtful, concerned with your well being.
Quote:Or do you mean sub-par as in she will have STI? The sex will cause long-term emotional damage? and serious, long-term consequences.
See above.
Quote:In your opinion, how is losing virginity to a friend a sub-par experience?
She'd better be a pretty special friend for her to be the things I mention above.
Quote:Quote:My point of view may not be the best way for you. But I suggest these things because of my personal experience.
I don’t really know, consciously, what AYP would get me the best result for weekends only, beginner dating. I can see pros for FWB and also other pros for AYPSL, AYPRL, etc. I can also see cons for each type of AYP also.
I really appreciate your point of view, and sharing your experiences with AYPs.
Have you had many FWBs and what has your experience been with FWBs?
I have had a few. It's sex with a friend, mostly for the sake of sex. It can end quickly, and without warning. It's about giving her pleasure and getting pleasure from her. I have a FWB who is now just a friend, simply because we didn't make enough sexual connection. And, she's an idiot about her sexual health and I'm not.
What was the worst thing that happened to you with a FWB?
In one case, she simply told me it was over because she had found someone better (more suiting her tastes). In another case, my FWB turned out to be a moron who was doing the dumbest shit possible with no regard for herself or her lovers, leading to risk of STIs.
Quote:Not many people here have shared their AYP experiences (probably because they haven’t used an AYP program yet).
Also, how many AYPs have you used in total? Overall What kind / quality of women did you manifest?
Three or four. The quality of women you manifest will depend on your level of quality, and the people available to choose from.
