Subliminal Talk

@Shannon , is LRS coming back in 3.3?

Hi @Shannon I wanted to ask if DMSI relies on any external factors of the person to work? For example would it work the same for someone who is living with their parents and no job vs someone who owns his freedom and his own business?

Thanks

I’m currently running AYP Friend-with-Benefits (on Day 126 today). I have been compiling questions over the last few months,

@Shannon

Q1 - What kind of factors are involved in defining ‘Perfect for me’?

Q2 - How would being a virgin affect results (compared to being experienced with women)?

Q2b - By having no sexual experience(s) to draw upon, would the subconscious focus on other, non-sexual criteria to define ‘Perfect for me’?

Q3 - The concept of personal energies was recently mentioned in this forum thread. Are these personal energies a significant factor in the definition(s) of what is ‘perfect for me’?

Q3b - Shannon, you have successfully used multiple AYP subs. Did personal energies play a significant part in what you attracted / what was perfect for you. For example, you mentioned that some of your exs had significant synergy between your personal energies and theirs, a magnetic attraction. Were (some of) these exs the women you manifested by using AYP subs?


On 11-09-2015:

Quote:Shannon Wrote:

Perfect sexual lover means perfect sexual lover. Don’t expect your perfect romantic lover, your perfect girlfriend, your perfect submissive or dominant, your perfect friend with benefits, your perfect wife or husband, etc.

I also noticed that the SubShop website AYP Friend-with-Benefits official page has no warnings (like the sexual lover programs do).

Q4 - How does ‘friend-with-benefits’ differ from ‘sexual lover’?

I’m using AYP Friend-with-Benefits 4G.

Q4b - I’m guessing that FWBs is more focused on hanging out as friends, and non-sexual qualities, as well as being able to have sex (As opposed to ‘sexual lovers’, where sexual compatiability the only thing that matters). Is this accurate or not?

Q4c - Would the criteria for ‘perfect’ Friend-with-Benefits focus on non-sexual qualities of the relationship, as well as sexual?

I know that ‘perfect sexual lover’ is focused entirely on sex / sexual compatiability. For example, Shannon’s first ‘perfect sexual lover’ sounds pretty horrible.

I’m using AYP FWB instead, since I hope to lose my virginity to someone who is fairly nice, respectful, trustworthy, etc.

Q4d - Will personality traits, such as the ones mentioned above, be considered / be factors in defining what is ‘perfect for me’?


Q5 - The manifestation / whoever I attract (my perfect FWBs) will definately give fully informed sexual consent (and have full capacity to fully consent sexually) to a sexual relationship with me?

I have attracted a woman who seems to really like me. The other problem is is that she is mentally impaired / has brain damage. She has a court order that mandates that she is ‘unable to give consent to any, and all, form(s) of sexual relationships’.

Her legal guardian said to me that any sexual contact is statutory rape, and that she (the legal guardian) will go to the police if any thing happens between me and this woman.

Q5b - Whoever I manifest will be 100% willing to consent to a sexual relationship with me, and do so without mind-games, ghosting, flaking, withdrawing consent, blackmail, threats of false rape charges, etc,?


One more thing, some members on the forum said that you can meet your manifestation, and mess it up, and lose the chance to be with her.

I am fairly awkward socially (that’s what my friends, colleagues, among others tell me). I also have stigmas / am stigmatised (in my country / according to its dominant social programming), and these are fairly noticeable stigmas, one of them being a genetic-based condition (it is noticeable in my facial characteristics) that my country / society considers undesirable.

I’m guessing that if she is ‘perfect for me’, then it is impossible for me to mess it up, etc. I’m guessing that ‘perfect for me’ would include someone who appreciates my quirks, stigmas, etc.

Also, I have no ‘game’ with women.

Q6 - Whoever you manifest, you will certainly be in a sexual relationship with?
If you do mess it up (if that is even possible with manifestations), then will you get unlimited chances with the ‘target’ / manifestation?


Thanks


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(05-25-2018, 05:48 PM)Razib1988 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon , is LRS coming back in 3.3?

Probably not.

(05-25-2018, 06:39 PM)Leo1990 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi @Shannon I wanted to ask if DMSI relies on any external factors of the person to work? For example would it work the same for someone who is living with their parents and no job vs someone who owns his freedom and his own business?

Thanks

It will work the same for anyone who executes it fully. There are external factors that will adjust how the results play out. But the program will work the same for everyone executing it fully.

I can tell you from first hand experience, that when I was living with my mother, first before I ever moved out and then after I came back home to take care of her, that that fact made very little difference to the women I attracted, regardless of my age. I didn't always have a job, either.

But, all those factors will influence the results. It will of course depend on how high value the program's results cause you to be perceived as being as to whether those factors matter to the affected.

Super hot and incredibly irresistibly sexually attractive, lives at home, has no job is a common thing for hot women to go after, for instance.

Is self esteem healing in dmsi A and B ? If so what is the difference between SE and whats offered in DMSI ?

(05-25-2018, 11:16 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: [ -> ]I’m currently running AYP Friend-with-Benefits (on Day 126 today). I have been compiling questions over the last few months,

@Shannon

Q1 - What kind of factors are involved in defining ‘Perfect for me’?

Your subconscious defines what is perfect for you.

Quote:Q2 - How would being a virgin affect results (compared to being experienced with women)?

Does the definition of "perfect" change with experience, or is perfect always perfect?

Quote:Q2b - By having no sexual experience(s) to draw upon, would the subconscious focus on other, non-sexual criteria to define ‘Perfect for me’?

Excellent question. Does the subconscious require your current level of experience to define perfect? Or is it possible to define perfect without experience, either because you have subconscious experience we don't consciously know you have, or because the definition of perfect does not require experience? We don't know.

Quote:Q3 - The concept of personal energies was recently mentioned in this forum thread. Are these personal energies a significant factor in the definition(s) of what is ‘perfect for me’?

Once again, that is up to the subconscious, and we don't know. I do know that whenever I have used an AYP sub I have always gotten a responder who was perfect for me according to the key I used. That means they had personal energies that fit what you are talking about.

Quote:Q3b - Shannon, you have successfully used multiple AYP subs. Did personal energies play a significant part in what you attracted / what was perfect for you. For example, you mentioned that some of your exs had significant synergy between your personal energies and theirs, a magnetic attraction. Were (some of) these exs the women you manifested by using AYP subs?

It seems to me that by default, "perfect" would include a very high level of energy compatibility and attraction.

When I was younger, I had no social skills and no "game". I only had
crippling social anxiety, terrible personal circumstances and manifestation techniques with which to meet women. So almost all of the women I have dated were the result of a manually done manifestation, or an AYP.

Quote:On 11-09-2015:

Quote:Shannon Wrote:

Perfect sexual lover means perfect sexual lover. Don’t expect your perfect romantic lover, your perfect girlfriend, your perfect submissive or dominant, your perfect friend with benefits, your perfect wife or husband, etc.

I also noticed that the SubShop website AYP Friend-with-Benefits official page has no warnings (like the sexual lover programs do).

One can't remember everything. But caution should be exercised regardless.

Quote:Q4 - How does ‘friend-with-benefits’ differ from ‘sexual lover’?

I’m using AYP Friend-with-Benefits 4G.

What is the difference between a perfect sexual lover and a perfect friend with benefits? One will leave you open to a romantic component, and the other will not. One will focus on her perfection for sex, and the other will focus on her perfection for sex within the definition of "friends with benefits", thus causing the perfect sexual lover to potentially be a better sexual match to some degree. A perfect friend with benefits will be a alot less drama/relationship/romance potential, on the other hand.

Quote:Q4b - I’m guessing that FWBs is more focused on hanging out as friends, and non-sexual qualities, as well as being able to have sex (As opposed to ‘sexual lovers’, where sexual compatiability the only thing that matters). Is this accurate or not?

Friends with benefits are, by definition, friends who are having sex. The focus is on the perfect relationship that includes the best sex possible within the confines of that definition of a relationship (friends with benefits). Aside from that, you are correct.

Quote:Q4c - Would the criteria for ‘perfect’ Friend-with-Benefits focus on non-sexual qualities of the relationship, as well as sexual?

I know that ‘perfect sexual lover’ is focused entirely on sex / sexual compatiability. For example, Shannon’s first ‘perfect sexual lover’ sounds pretty horrible.

I’m using AYP FWB instead, since I hope to lose my virginity to someone who is fairly nice, respectful, trustworthy, etc.

Yes, it would. My experience with my first AYP sub was not "Attract Your Perfect Sexual Lover". It would not have turned out the way it did if I had asked for my "Perfect Sexual Lover". Instead, it being my first time making such a sub, and the sub being experimental in nature, I made a mistake based on lack of understanding. That is why we now have "Attract Your Perfect Sexual Lover" instead of the one I used. Not everyone is going to have my experience, and in fact, I'm pretty sure that almost nobody else will. My case is a pretty unusual one in a lot of cases.

AYPSL would be just as good as AYPFWB for finding someone to lose your virginity to, it just depends on what aspect you want to focus on.

Quote:Q4d - Will personality traits, such as the ones mentioned above, be considered / be factors in defining what is ‘perfect for me’?

Your subconscious takes into account a lot of things when defining "perfect". Exactly what it takes into account, is up to it.

Quote:Q5 - The manifestation / whoever I attract (my perfect FWBs) will definately give fully informed sexual consent (and have full capacity to fully consent sexually) to a sexual relationship with me?

I have attracted a woman who seems to really like me. The other problem is is that she is mentally impaired / has brain damage. She has a court order that mandates that she is ‘unable to give consent to any, and all, form(s) of sexual relationships’.

Her legal guardian said to me that any sexual contact is statutory rape, and that she (the legal guardian) will go to the police if any thing happens between me and this woman.

If the person you attracted was not willing or able to give you full and informed consent to have sex with you, would they be perfect for you in that regard? Obviously not.

Quote:Q5b - Whoever I manifest will be 100% willing to consent to a sexual relationship with me, and do so without mind-games, ghosting, flaking, withdrawing consent, blackmail, threats of false rape charges, etc,?

In the cases I have seen, the perfect lover/friend with benefits is so mutually attracted to you that it just flows right into what the goal is. But it is definitely apparent that you have so much fear of these things that you are unlikely to allow the program to work. Set it and forget it is the mantra because that means you don't spend all your time worrying about what could go wrong and "protect yourself" from the goal, and instead, just trust your subconscious and let it execute the script.

Quote:One more thing, some members on the forum said that you can meet your manifestation, and mess it up, and lose the chance to be with her.

It is possible to mess it up with your manifestation, but you would really have to try hard. When you do it right, it's an almost irresistible force of attraction between you,m and it won't matter what you get wrong. It's going to happen because your subconscious will guide you in all of what needs to be done, automatically. It's only when you don't "set it and forget it" and try to involve the conscious mind that things get screwed up. The conscious mind cannot see what the subconscious can see, nor can it see what the subconscious is doing to align the factors that need to be aligned for the goal to be achieved. It therefore operates in relative ignorance, and thus fear, which causes it to try too hard to control things and gets in the way of the subconscious making the manifestation happen.

Quote:I am fairly awkward socially (that’s what my friends, colleagues, among others tell me). I also have stigmas / am stigmatised (in my country / according to its dominant social programming), and these are fairly noticeable stigmas, one of them being a genetic-based condition (it is noticeable in my facial characteristics) that my country / society considers undesirable.

I’m guessing that if she is ‘perfect for me’, then it is impossible for me to mess it up, etc. I’m guessing that ‘perfect for me’ would include someone who appreciates my quirks, stigmas, etc.

Also, I have no ‘game’ with women.

If you get out of the way and let your subconscious do it's thing, none of that matters.

Quote:Q6 - Whoever you manifest, you will certainly be in a sexual relationship with?
If you do mess it up (if that is even possible with manifestations), then will you get unlimited chances with the ‘target’ / manifestation?


Thanks


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If the person is your perfect friend with benefits, then having a friends with benefits relationship is going to be inevitable. It will be mutually desirable and mutually irresistible.

The most common way to "mess it up" is to have your conscious mind "protect you" by preventing the manifestation in the first place. That seems like what you are doing.

Once you have met them, if you got out of the way of your subconscious, then there will be an irresistible mutual attraction in the right ways to result in your relationship being what you asked for. It is possible to do things that will permanently disqualify yourself; for example, when I met Bernadette (perfect lover), I had a girlfriend, and Bernadette disqualified me for that reason. Did it stop the relationship from happening? No. It just delayed it.

I could have done something to offend her on purpose, if I chose to, but I did not.

In fact I told her on our first date that she was taking me out to dinner, and that was that. And she did.

When you get the manifestation right and don't self sabotage, it's pretty hard to mess up what you get. Still possible, but pretty hard.

Bernadette certainly messed up what we had, but she spent quite a bit of time having sex with me before she did that.

Worrying about it means you are trying to involve the conscious mind too much, and that will always prevent your success.

Set it and forget it.

(05-26-2018, 07:35 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Is self esteem healing in dmsi A and B ? If so what is the difference between SE and whats offered in DMSI ?

There is no "self esteem healing" in DMSI. It is the key script from the Self Esteem focusfire. The very same one.

(05-26-2018, 07:51 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-26-2018, 07:35 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Is self esteem healing in dmsi A and B ? If so what is the difference between SE and whats offered in DMSI ?

There is no "self esteem healing" in DMSI. It is the key script from the Self Esteem focusfire. The very same one.

I am interested in the same question: Is the SE script only active in version A?

DMSI shop page says that goal No.2 (which contains self esteem, but as far as I remember that was even there before the new SE sub came out) is only active in version A. Since SE is now part of the skeleton script I could imagine that it is also active in B?

(05-26-2018, 08:18 AM)changer Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-26-2018, 07:51 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-26-2018, 07:35 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Is self esteem healing in dmsi A and B ? If so what is the difference between SE and whats offered in DMSI ?

There is no "self esteem healing" in DMSI. It is the key script from the Self Esteem focusfire. The very same one.

I am interested in the same question: Is the SE script only active in version A?

DMSI shop page says that goal No.2 (which contains self esteem, but as far as I remember that was even there before the new SE sub came out) is only active in version A. Since SE is now part of the skeleton script I could imagine that it is also active in B?

SE is part of the skeleton script, and is present in both A and B.

I have to say, I am looking forward to the future upgraded AYP series from you Shannon, especially having a selection of specific ones for Girlfriend/Romantic Lover in 6G.

I imagine that wil be coming 2019?

Turns out I have wifi on the bus :o

Apologies if this has been asked already but is autopilot deactivated in 3.2? And if so, will it be coming back for 3.3?

Hey Shannon I've slowly come to the realization that attempting to control my subconscious fear response expends a lot of energy for little gain. I don't think I can control it. But I can control how I respond to it. But with all the resistance tactics lately I wanted your opinion if letting go of the need to control that fear is a step in the right direction.

(05-26-2018, 09:20 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Turns out I have wifi on the bus :o

Apologies if this has been asked already but is autopilot deactivated in 3.2? And if so, will it be coming back for 3.3?

Autopilot is gone for good. See my post 2-3 pages earlier

It is not present in 3.2. Last version was 3.1