(07-18-2018, 11:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 08:57 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 08:18 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2018, 10:50 PM)dweller94 Wrote: [ -> ]This badboy LM/US combo, I’ve had dreams about me running this years ago and that it’ll be a major success for all, just putting this out there.
Well when I have time to make it instead of DMSI and the focus fires...
I think it would be worth the time to develop it. It would make quite a bit of money for you and would work well for us. Could work on it round robin style while you work on DSMI?
I agree, it is a very worthwhile sub, and I get a very good feeling about it. I do plan to develop it. And I probably will work on it round robin while doing DMSI 3.3. But for the time being, we have to get some things out, and they have to be good things that are worth your money. That's why I am working right now on Sleep Induction Aid 2.0 in 5.5G, which is looking really interesting so far.
I have finished calculating the ideal phrasing for the key script, and now I am determining what should be turned on and off in the skeleton script to make it work at its best. Not yet sure what I'll be working on after that - maybe a US focusfire, maybe a Motivation/Anti-Procrastination focusfire (if that can be made as a focusfire), maybe Awakener 2.0 in 5.5G. Looks like the most likely one right now is the UM/AP, f it can be done as a focusfire.
Good deal. I figured US/LM might not make it as a focusfire due to the complexity of LM. The Awakener 2.0 sounds like neat idea too. I know I need it sometimes. Haha
Will Sleep Aid 5.5G be out this week possibly?
(07-18-2018, 11:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I have finished calculating the ideal phrasing for the key script, and now I am determining what should be turned on and off in the skeleton script to make it work at its best. Not yet sure what I'll be working on after that - maybe a US focusfire, maybe a Motivation/Anti-Procrastination focusfire (if that can be made as a focusfire), maybe Awakener 2.0 in 5.5G. Looks like the most likely one right now is the UM/AP, f it can be done as a focusfire.
UM/AP sounds absolutely great. I hope it can be done as a focusfire.
Thanks for all your effort and hard work Shannon.
(07-18-2018, 08:20 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2018, 11:23 PM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2018, 02:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2018, 10:13 AM)kornjacinvrac Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon i have been using 6 loops on masked with earbuds and something is happening, im on the second day i feel my emotions are getting stronger, courage is present and DMSI is pushing something, i mean... its doing its work. Also, inside me i feel a "i don't give a f" attitude which maybe is resistance or maybe i dont give a f anyways, or something i don't know. My question is, i hear my ears buzzing sometimes, for how long can i listen to 6 loops max? For one month, two three? What is the optimal time lenght you recommend?
By "buzzing" are you referring to tinnitus? Tinnitus is only possible if you are using the ultrasonic or hybrid track too loudly, or you are playing the masked tracks WAY the hell too loudly (heavy metal concert loudly) on speakers. If this is the case, all you need to do is adjust the volume downwards or switch to masked. I suggest that if you have ringing in your ears, it is most likely the ultrasonic being too loud, so just adjust it downwards a bit per day until that stops.
You can listen to it forever, as long as you're using it at a safe volume. I suggest you use it for (X-35) more days, where X is the date of release for DMSI 3.3.
I wasn't in either of this cases and I still got tinnitus from subliminals, so I doubt that it's the only possible way to get tinnitus.
I seriously doubt that. I would say you already had tinnitus and using the subliminals the way you did made it more obvious. But the masked tracks cannot give you tinnitus unless you use them at rock concert level volumes, because they are just like any other sound. Ultrasonic audio is known to trigger tinnitus, and it has to be used at lower volumes than masked to prevent that for some people.
You can seriously doubt about it if you want it doesn't change what I have experienced.
I never had any problem what so ever in my hearing before doing AM5, I would go in clubs with music much higher than normal level and I wouldn't have any hearing pain or tinnitus sound after it.
After doing AM5 around stage 4 or 5 I started to get tinnitus with pain from just from people speaking if it's a bit loud, I always listened to the masked track during that time. Also the sound level was quite low as my brother couldn't hear it in the next room, certainly not rock concert level.
So according to you it made my tinnitus more obvious, even if it was the case that would still make your subliminal the culprit especially since tinnitus is a subjective problems. Probably everyone can remember an experience when they heard a very loud noise and their hears hurt a little bit, in wars video games you can see that all the time when a grenade explode near the player, to make it realistic the player hear this hissing sound for about 5 seconds or so. Tinnitus is exactly that but it doesn't stop.
In that grenade example would you say if a guy experience that in real life and he got tinnitus afterward from it, would say that grenade wasn't the cause of the tinnitus but that it just made it more obvious to him that he tinnitus before. I could have others example like with headache, if you don't notice you have an headache, then you don't have any headache as it's subjective, same with tinnitus, if you don't notice it then you don't have it.
Quote:because they are just like any other sound.
I agree with you on that. There is a thing written on headset sometimes, like don't listen for long period of time as it may damage your hearing.
It can be normal sound from speaker, it still seems to damage the hearing after long period of times. And to me it's exactly what I experience if I watch movies all day or series or youtube or music all day without stopping my tinnitus gets stronger. And if I use headset it worsen the effects.
The sound doesn't need to be special, hearing your subs more than 8 hours a day is probably not a good thing for anyone long term wise.
(07-18-2018, 01:21 PM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 08:20 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2018, 11:23 PM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2018, 02:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2018, 10:13 AM)kornjacinvrac Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon i have been using 6 loops on masked with earbuds and something is happening, im on the second day i feel my emotions are getting stronger, courage is present and DMSI is pushing something, i mean... its doing its work. Also, inside me i feel a "i don't give a f" attitude which maybe is resistance or maybe i dont give a f anyways, or something i don't know. My question is, i hear my ears buzzing sometimes, for how long can i listen to 6 loops max? For one month, two three? What is the optimal time lenght you recommend?
By "buzzing" are you referring to tinnitus? Tinnitus is only possible if you are using the ultrasonic or hybrid track too loudly, or you are playing the masked tracks WAY the hell too loudly (heavy metal concert loudly) on speakers. If this is the case, all you need to do is adjust the volume downwards or switch to masked. I suggest that if you have ringing in your ears, it is most likely the ultrasonic being too loud, so just adjust it downwards a bit per day until that stops.
You can listen to it forever, as long as you're using it at a safe volume. I suggest you use it for (X-35) more days, where X is the date of release for DMSI 3.3.
I wasn't in either of this cases and I still got tinnitus from subliminals, so I doubt that it's the only possible way to get tinnitus.
I seriously doubt that. I would say you already had tinnitus and using the subliminals the way you did made it more obvious. But the masked tracks cannot give you tinnitus unless you use them at rock concert level volumes, because they are just like any other sound. Ultrasonic audio is known to trigger tinnitus, and it has to be used at lower volumes than masked to prevent that for some people.
You can seriously doubt about it if you want it doesn't change what I have experienced.
I never had any problem what so ever in my hearing before doing AM5, I would go in clubs with music much higher than normal level and I wouldn't have any hearing pain or tinnitus sound after it.
After doing AM5 around stage 4 or 5 I started to get tinnitus with pain from just from people speaking if it's a bit loud, I always listened to the masked track during that time. Also the sound level was quite low as my brother couldn't hear it in the next room, certainly not rock concert level.
So according to you it made my tinnitus more obvious, even if it was the case that would still make your subliminal the culprit especially since tinnitus is a subjective problems. Probably everyone can remember an experience when they heard a very loud noise and their hears hurt a little bit, in wars video games you can see that all the time when a grenade explode near the player, to make it realistic the player hear this hissing sound for about 5 seconds or so. Tinnitus is exactly that but it doesn't stop.
In that grenade example would you say if a guy experience that in real life and he got tinnitus afterward from it, would say that grenade wasn't the cause of the tinnitus but that it just made it more obvious to him that he tinnitus before. I could have others example like with headache, if you don't notice you have an headache, then you don't have any headache as it's subjective, same with tinnitus, if you don't notice it then you don't have it.
Quote:because they are just like any other sound.
I agree with you on that. There is a thing written on headset sometimes, like don't listen for long period of time as it may damage your hearing.
It can be normal sound from speaker, it still seems to damage the hearing after long period of times. And to me it's exactly what I experience if I watch movies all day or series or youtube or music all day without stopping my tinnitus gets stronger. And if I use headset it worsen the effects.
The sound doesn't need to be special, hearing your subs more than 8 hours a day is probably not a good thing for anyone long term wise.
Human ears are designed to be used for very long periods of time. Your whole life, in fact. That warning on the sides of headphones isn't about using them for long periods of time, it's about using them at high volumes for too long. You can listen to waves crashing at the beach for a whole life, if you live at the beach, and never have tinnitus in response. You can listen to jungle sounds under the same circumstances, and same deal. But somehow, listening to a masked subliminal is supposed to be triggering tinnitus because of the masking track being played at reasonable volume? I'm going to have to say that's not possible.
The only way I can think of that you could possibly have tinnitus in direct response to the subliminal under the conditions you describe, is if it is some sort of previously unrealized resistance tactic. I don't question that you experienced it, but I do question what caused it, and I guarantee that the masking tracks I use, played at reasonable volumes, can't do that. I can also guarantee you that the subliminalized audio itself can't do that for the very same reason on a masked track. Leaving us with the only possible explanation being some sort of subconscious response to the subliminal messages. And honestly, I can't see how that is possible either... although I do not know what the cause(s) of tinnitus are (aside from overvolume of audio). So that seems a possible explanation, but I have a significantly hard time following how that is possible even as a resistance tactic unless it is an extremely rare resistance tactic that results from the subconscious trying to get you to stop listening. Otherwise we'd have figured out that it's a resistance tactic already.
Shannon,
Didn't you mention a while back that you already had the skeleton script ready for Life Tune-Up w/ US (manifestation), and that it just had to be built?
I think you said it was a small part of a custom but you didn't know if you could release it yet...
...and Ultra-Success Focus-Fire sounds really good too!
(07-18-2018, 01:35 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 01:21 PM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 08:20 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2018, 11:23 PM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2018, 02:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]By "buzzing" are you referring to tinnitus? Tinnitus is only possible if you are using the ultrasonic or hybrid track too loudly, or you are playing the masked tracks WAY the hell too loudly (heavy metal concert loudly) on speakers. If this is the case, all you need to do is adjust the volume downwards or switch to masked. I suggest that if you have ringing in your ears, it is most likely the ultrasonic being too loud, so just adjust it downwards a bit per day until that stops.
You can listen to it forever, as long as you're using it at a safe volume. I suggest you use it for (X-35) more days, where X is the date of release for DMSI 3.3.
I wasn't in either of this cases and I still got tinnitus from subliminals, so I doubt that it's the only possible way to get tinnitus.
I seriously doubt that. I would say you already had tinnitus and using the subliminals the way you did made it more obvious. But the masked tracks cannot give you tinnitus unless you use them at rock concert level volumes, because they are just like any other sound. Ultrasonic audio is known to trigger tinnitus, and it has to be used at lower volumes than masked to prevent that for some people.
You can seriously doubt about it if you want it doesn't change what I have experienced.
I never had any problem what so ever in my hearing before doing AM5, I would go in clubs with music much higher than normal level and I wouldn't have any hearing pain or tinnitus sound after it.
After doing AM5 around stage 4 or 5 I started to get tinnitus with pain from just from people speaking if it's a bit loud, I always listened to the masked track during that time. Also the sound level was quite low as my brother couldn't hear it in the next room, certainly not rock concert level.
So according to you it made my tinnitus more obvious, even if it was the case that would still make your subliminal the culprit especially since tinnitus is a subjective problems. Probably everyone can remember an experience when they heard a very loud noise and their hears hurt a little bit, in wars video games you can see that all the time when a grenade explode near the player, to make it realistic the player hear this hissing sound for about 5 seconds or so. Tinnitus is exactly that but it doesn't stop.
In that grenade example would you say if a guy experience that in real life and he got tinnitus afterward from it, would say that grenade wasn't the cause of the tinnitus but that it just made it more obvious to him that he tinnitus before. I could have others example like with headache, if you don't notice you have an headache, then you don't have any headache as it's subjective, same with tinnitus, if you don't notice it then you don't have it.
Quote:because they are just like any other sound.
I agree with you on that. There is a thing written on headset sometimes, like don't listen for long period of time as it may damage your hearing.
It can be normal sound from speaker, it still seems to damage the hearing after long period of times. And to me it's exactly what I experience if I watch movies all day or series or youtube or music all day without stopping my tinnitus gets stronger. And if I use headset it worsen the effects.
The sound doesn't need to be special, hearing your subs more than 8 hours a day is probably not a good thing for anyone long term wise.
Human ears are designed to be used for very long periods of time. Your whole life, in fact. That warning on the sides of headphones isn't about using them for long periods of time, it's about using them at high volumes for too long. You can listen to waves crashing at the beach for a whole life, if you live at the beach, and never have tinnitus in response. You can listen to jungle sounds under the same circumstances, and same deal. But somehow, listening to a masked subliminal is supposed to be triggering tinnitus because of the masking track being played at reasonable volume? I'm going to have to say that's not possible.
The only way I can think of that you could possibly have tinnitus in direct response to the subliminal under the conditions you describe, is if it is some sort of previously unrealized resistance tactic. I don't question that you experienced it, but I do question what caused it, and I guarantee that the masking tracks I use, played at reasonable volumes, can't do that. I can also guarantee you that the subliminalized audio itself can't do that for the very same reason on a masked track. Leaving us with the only possible explanation being some sort of subconscious response to the subliminal messages. And honestly, I can't see how that is possible either... although I do not know what the cause(s) of tinnitus are (aside from overvolume of audio). So that seems a possible explanation, but I have a significantly hard time following how that is possible even as a resistance tactic unless it is an extremely rare resistance tactic that results from the subconscious trying to get you to stop listening. Otherwise we'd have figured out that it's a resistance tactic already.
I have had somewhat the same experience, but I can hear how the "tinnitus" is really the track played by my subconscious, as the tinnitus stops in the same way that the subliminal does from time to time. Maybe it's just that we who are affected are more sensitive and can hear what you can't? It comes and goes, I don't hear it all the time, or maybe just don't notice it all the time.
(07-18-2018, 11:13 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 11:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 08:57 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 08:18 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2018, 10:50 PM)dweller94 Wrote: [ -> ]This badboy LM/US combo, I’ve had dreams about me running this years ago and that it’ll be a major success for all, just putting this out there.
Well when I have time to make it instead of DMSI and the focus fires...
I think it would be worth the time to develop it. It would make quite a bit of money for you and would work well for us. Could work on it round robin style while you work on DSMI?
I agree, it is a very worthwhile sub, and I get a very good feeling about it. I do plan to develop it. And I probably will work on it round robin while doing DMSI 3.3. But for the time being, we have to get some things out, and they have to be good things that are worth your money. That's why I am working right now on Sleep Induction Aid 2.0 in 5.5G, which is looking really interesting so far.
I have finished calculating the ideal phrasing for the key script, and now I am determining what should be turned on and off in the skeleton script to make it work at its best. Not yet sure what I'll be working on after that - maybe a US focusfire, maybe a Motivation/Anti-Procrastination focusfire (if that can be made as a focusfire), maybe Awakener 2.0 in 5.5G. Looks like the most likely one right now is the UM/AP, f it can be done as a focusfire.
Good deal. I figured US/LM might not make it as a focusfire due to the complexity of LM. The Awakener 2.0 sounds like neat idea too. I know I need it sometimes. Haha
Will Sleep Aid 5.5G be out this week possibly?
I am wanting to test it for a bit, but it should be built either today or tomorrow. After I am satisfied that it is effective, I'll release it. It will probably be obvious within two or three days of testing whether it works up to snuff. This type of technology (sleep aid) has never been paired with 5.5G technology before, and I need to know that it was done properly.
In the mean time, after building the sleep aid, I'll be working on a second focusfire. Probably the UM/OP.
(07-18-2018, 02:29 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 11:13 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 11:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 08:57 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 08:18 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Well when I have time to make it instead of DMSI and the focus fires...
I think it would be worth the time to develop it. It would make quite a bit of money for you and would work well for us. Could work on it round robin style while you work on DSMI?
I agree, it is a very worthwhile sub, and I get a very good feeling about it. I do plan to develop it. And I probably will work on it round robin while doing DMSI 3.3. But for the time being, we have to get some things out, and they have to be good things that are worth your money. That's why I am working right now on Sleep Induction Aid 2.0 in 5.5G, which is looking really interesting so far.
I have finished calculating the ideal phrasing for the key script, and now I am determining what should be turned on and off in the skeleton script to make it work at its best. Not yet sure what I'll be working on after that - maybe a US focusfire, maybe a Motivation/Anti-Procrastination focusfire (if that can be made as a focusfire), maybe Awakener 2.0 in 5.5G. Looks like the most likely one right now is the UM/AP, f it can be done as a focusfire.
Good deal. I figured US/LM might not make it as a focusfire due to the complexity of LM. The Awakener 2.0 sounds like neat idea too. I know I need it sometimes. Haha
Will Sleep Aid 5.5G be out this week possibly?
I am wanting to test it for a bit, but it should be built either today or tomorrow. After I am satisfied that it is effective, I'll release it. It will probably be obvious within two or three days of testing whether it works up to snuff. This type of technology (sleep aid) has never been paired with 5.5G technology before, and I need to know that it was done properly.
In the mean time, after building the sleep aid, I'll be working on a second focusfire. Probably the UM/OP.
UM/OP sounds like it could be a real hit. Hopefully it can be a focusfire.
You said that the complexity of LM made it impossible to make it a focusfire. What exactly is making it more complex other than the fact that we’re going from 4G to 5.5G with this one.
(07-18-2018, 03:08 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 02:29 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 11:13 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 11:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 08:57 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]I think it would be worth the time to develop it. It would make quite a bit of money for you and would work well for us. Could work on it round robin style while you work on DSMI?
I agree, it is a very worthwhile sub, and I get a very good feeling about it. I do plan to develop it. And I probably will work on it round robin while doing DMSI 3.3. But for the time being, we have to get some things out, and they have to be good things that are worth your money. That's why I am working right now on Sleep Induction Aid 2.0 in 5.5G, which is looking really interesting so far.
I have finished calculating the ideal phrasing for the key script, and now I am determining what should be turned on and off in the skeleton script to make it work at its best. Not yet sure what I'll be working on after that - maybe a US focusfire, maybe a Motivation/Anti-Procrastination focusfire (if that can be made as a focusfire), maybe Awakener 2.0 in 5.5G. Looks like the most likely one right now is the UM/AP, f it can be done as a focusfire.
Good deal. I figured US/LM might not make it as a focusfire due to the complexity of LM. The Awakener 2.0 sounds like neat idea too. I know I need it sometimes. Haha
Will Sleep Aid 5.5G be out this week possibly?
I am wanting to test it for a bit, but it should be built either today or tomorrow. After I am satisfied that it is effective, I'll release it. It will probably be obvious within two or three days of testing whether it works up to snuff. This type of technology (sleep aid) has never been paired with 5.5G technology before, and I need to know that it was done properly.
In the mean time, after building the sleep aid, I'll be working on a second focusfire. Probably the UM/OP.
UM/OP sounds like it could be a real hit. Hopefully it can be a focusfire.
You said that the complexity of LM made it impossible to make it a focusfire. What exactly is making it more complex other than the fact that we’re going from 4G to 5.5G with this one.
Even in 4G, it is too complex to be a focusfire. The means to achieve this end require more than 20 statements even in 4G. It's only going to increase in complexity in 5.5G. The way this must be done is not a simple thing to do.
Hi Shannon, i know this is not recommended especially on dmsi but if i was to use a hypnosis program on confidence before listening to dmsi 3.2a do you think that might be worth trying just to see if things change?
I know its not meant to be done but you also mentioned trying meditation and didnt think we were meant to do that when on 3.2?
Also earlier im not saying nothing is happening just nothing i can see happening at the surface there might be things changing at a subconscious level just without the effects that i can see so far.
Thanks
(07-18-2018, 05:38 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 03:08 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 02:29 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 11:13 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 11:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I agree, it is a very worthwhile sub, and I get a very good feeling about it. I do plan to develop it. And I probably will work on it round robin while doing DMSI 3.3. But for the time being, we have to get some things out, and they have to be good things that are worth your money. That's why I am working right now on Sleep Induction Aid 2.0 in 5.5G, which is looking really interesting so far.
I have finished calculating the ideal phrasing for the key script, and now I am determining what should be turned on and off in the skeleton script to make it work at its best. Not yet sure what I'll be working on after that - maybe a US focusfire, maybe a Motivation/Anti-Procrastination focusfire (if that can be made as a focusfire), maybe Awakener 2.0 in 5.5G. Looks like the most likely one right now is the UM/AP, f it can be done as a focusfire.
Good deal. I figured US/LM might not make it as a focusfire due to the complexity of LM. The Awakener 2.0 sounds like neat idea too. I know I need it sometimes. Haha
Will Sleep Aid 5.5G be out this week possibly?
I am wanting to test it for a bit, but it should be built either today or tomorrow. After I am satisfied that it is effective, I'll release it. It will probably be obvious within two or three days of testing whether it works up to snuff. This type of technology (sleep aid) has never been paired with 5.5G technology before, and I need to know that it was done properly.
In the mean time, after building the sleep aid, I'll be working on a second focusfire. Probably the UM/OP.
UM/OP sounds like it could be a real hit. Hopefully it can be a focusfire.
You said that the complexity of LM made it impossible to make it a focusfire. What exactly is making it more complex other than the fact that we’re going from 4G to 5.5G with this one.
Even in 4G, it is too complex to be a focusfire. The means to achieve this end require more than 20 statements even in 4G. It's only going to increase in complexity in 5.5G. The way this must be done is not a simple thing to do.
Ok. Thanks for explaining it.
It will be a killer program however once it is made.
(07-18-2018, 01:53 PM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 01:35 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 01:21 PM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 08:20 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2018, 11:23 PM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ]I wasn't in either of this cases and I still got tinnitus from subliminals, so I doubt that it's the only possible way to get tinnitus.
I seriously doubt that. I would say you already had tinnitus and using the subliminals the way you did made it more obvious. But the masked tracks cannot give you tinnitus unless you use them at rock concert level volumes, because they are just like any other sound. Ultrasonic audio is known to trigger tinnitus, and it has to be used at lower volumes than masked to prevent that for some people.
You can seriously doubt about it if you want it doesn't change what I have experienced.
I never had any problem what so ever in my hearing before doing AM5, I would go in clubs with music much higher than normal level and I wouldn't have any hearing pain or tinnitus sound after it.
After doing AM5 around stage 4 or 5 I started to get tinnitus with pain from just from people speaking if it's a bit loud, I always listened to the masked track during that time. Also the sound level was quite low as my brother couldn't hear it in the next room, certainly not rock concert level.
So according to you it made my tinnitus more obvious, even if it was the case that would still make your subliminal the culprit especially since tinnitus is a subjective problems. Probably everyone can remember an experience when they heard a very loud noise and their hears hurt a little bit, in wars video games you can see that all the time when a grenade explode near the player, to make it realistic the player hear this hissing sound for about 5 seconds or so. Tinnitus is exactly that but it doesn't stop.
In that grenade example would you say if a guy experience that in real life and he got tinnitus afterward from it, would say that grenade wasn't the cause of the tinnitus but that it just made it more obvious to him that he tinnitus before. I could have others example like with headache, if you don't notice you have an headache, then you don't have any headache as it's subjective, same with tinnitus, if you don't notice it then you don't have it.
Quote:because they are just like any other sound.
I agree with you on that. There is a thing written on headset sometimes, like don't listen for long period of time as it may damage your hearing.
It can be normal sound from speaker, it still seems to damage the hearing after long period of times. And to me it's exactly what I experience if I watch movies all day or series or youtube or music all day without stopping my tinnitus gets stronger. And if I use headset it worsen the effects.
The sound doesn't need to be special, hearing your subs more than 8 hours a day is probably not a good thing for anyone long term wise.
Human ears are designed to be used for very long periods of time. Your whole life, in fact. That warning on the sides of headphones isn't about using them for long periods of time, it's about using them at high volumes for too long. You can listen to waves crashing at the beach for a whole life, if you live at the beach, and never have tinnitus in response. You can listen to jungle sounds under the same circumstances, and same deal. But somehow, listening to a masked subliminal is supposed to be triggering tinnitus because of the masking track being played at reasonable volume? I'm going to have to say that's not possible.
The only way I can think of that you could possibly have tinnitus in direct response to the subliminal under the conditions you describe, is if it is some sort of previously unrealized resistance tactic. I don't question that you experienced it, but I do question what caused it, and I guarantee that the masking tracks I use, played at reasonable volumes, can't do that. I can also guarantee you that the subliminalized audio itself can't do that for the very same reason on a masked track. Leaving us with the only possible explanation being some sort of subconscious response to the subliminal messages. And honestly, I can't see how that is possible either... although I do not know what the cause(s) of tinnitus are (aside from overvolume of audio). So that seems a possible explanation, but I have a significantly hard time following how that is possible even as a resistance tactic unless it is an extremely rare resistance tactic that results from the subconscious trying to get you to stop listening. Otherwise we'd have figured out that it's a resistance tactic already.
I have had somewhat the same experience, but I can hear how the "tinnitus" is really the track played by my subconscious, as the tinnitus stops in the same way that the subliminal does from time to time. Maybe it's just that we who are affected are more sensitive and can hear what you can't? It comes and goes, I don't hear it all the time, or maybe just don't notice it all the time.
I made the same experience and I also think this is my subconscious postprocessing the input if you want it this way.
(07-18-2018, 05:59 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, i know this is not recommended especially on dmsi but if i was to use a hypnosis program on confidence before listening to dmsi 3.2a do you think that might be worth trying just to see if things change?
It is not "not recommended". I am specifically telling you guys, DO NOT MIX MIND PROGRAMMING FROM DIFFERENT PRODUCERS. The scripting methods can conflict and produce some
serious issues. Of course, nobody listens. And by the way, confidence is already dealt with in the script.
Quote:I know its not meant to be done but you also mentioned trying meditation and didnt think we were meant to do that when on 3.2?
Meditation is state shifting. You should not shift state intentionally when DMSI is trying to shift your state, because that is a conflict. But when are you going to meditate when DMSI is trying to get you laid? I'm sure you won't meditate while you're at a dance club, in a grocery store, on the subway, or at a party. Since meditation is done when DMSI would not be functioning anyway - except perhaps for the short range sniper trying to snipe a neighbor, maybe - it should not be a problem.
Quote:Also earlier im not saying nothing is happening just nothing i can see happening at the surface there might be things changing at a subconscious level just without the effects that i can see so far.
Thanks
(07-18-2018, 09:33 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 01:53 PM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 01:35 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 01:21 PM)JackOfHearts Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 08:20 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I seriously doubt that. I would say you already had tinnitus and using the subliminals the way you did made it more obvious. But the masked tracks cannot give you tinnitus unless you use them at rock concert level volumes, because they are just like any other sound. Ultrasonic audio is known to trigger tinnitus, and it has to be used at lower volumes than masked to prevent that for some people.
You can seriously doubt about it if you want it doesn't change what I have experienced.
I never had any problem what so ever in my hearing before doing AM5, I would go in clubs with music much higher than normal level and I wouldn't have any hearing pain or tinnitus sound after it.
After doing AM5 around stage 4 or 5 I started to get tinnitus with pain from just from people speaking if it's a bit loud, I always listened to the masked track during that time. Also the sound level was quite low as my brother couldn't hear it in the next room, certainly not rock concert level.
So according to you it made my tinnitus more obvious, even if it was the case that would still make your subliminal the culprit especially since tinnitus is a subjective problems. Probably everyone can remember an experience when they heard a very loud noise and their hears hurt a little bit, in wars video games you can see that all the time when a grenade explode near the player, to make it realistic the player hear this hissing sound for about 5 seconds or so. Tinnitus is exactly that but it doesn't stop.
In that grenade example would you say if a guy experience that in real life and he got tinnitus afterward from it, would say that grenade wasn't the cause of the tinnitus but that it just made it more obvious to him that he tinnitus before. I could have others example like with headache, if you don't notice you have an headache, then you don't have any headache as it's subjective, same with tinnitus, if you don't notice it then you don't have it.
Quote:because they are just like any other sound.
I agree with you on that. There is a thing written on headset sometimes, like don't listen for long period of time as it may damage your hearing.
It can be normal sound from speaker, it still seems to damage the hearing after long period of times. And to me it's exactly what I experience if I watch movies all day or series or youtube or music all day without stopping my tinnitus gets stronger. And if I use headset it worsen the effects.
The sound doesn't need to be special, hearing your subs more than 8 hours a day is probably not a good thing for anyone long term wise.
Human ears are designed to be used for very long periods of time. Your whole life, in fact. That warning on the sides of headphones isn't about using them for long periods of time, it's about using them at high volumes for too long. You can listen to waves crashing at the beach for a whole life, if you live at the beach, and never have tinnitus in response. You can listen to jungle sounds under the same circumstances, and same deal. But somehow, listening to a masked subliminal is supposed to be triggering tinnitus because of the masking track being played at reasonable volume? I'm going to have to say that's not possible.
The only way I can think of that you could possibly have tinnitus in direct response to the subliminal under the conditions you describe, is if it is some sort of previously unrealized resistance tactic. I don't question that you experienced it, but I do question what caused it, and I guarantee that the masking tracks I use, played at reasonable volumes, can't do that. I can also guarantee you that the subliminalized audio itself can't do that for the very same reason on a masked track. Leaving us with the only possible explanation being some sort of subconscious response to the subliminal messages. And honestly, I can't see how that is possible either... although I do not know what the cause(s) of tinnitus are (aside from overvolume of audio). So that seems a possible explanation, but I have a significantly hard time following how that is possible even as a resistance tactic unless it is an extremely rare resistance tactic that results from the subconscious trying to get you to stop listening. Otherwise we'd have figured out that it's a resistance tactic already.
I have had somewhat the same experience, but I can hear how the "tinnitus" is really the track played by my subconscious, as the tinnitus stops in the same way that the subliminal does from time to time. Maybe it's just that we who are affected are more sensitive and can hear what you can't? It comes and goes, I don't hear it all the time, or maybe just don't notice it all the time.
I made the same experience and I also think this is my subconscious postprocessing the input if you want it this way.
So how then do we explain the complete failure of all attempts I have made to stop, prevent or even reduce tinnitus? Every sub since DMSI 2.5 has had a complete multi-statement anti-tinnitus module, and the 5G program for it also fails.