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Quote:Goal #2: To support goal #1, we have to develop, enhance and improve your self esteem, self respect, sense of self worth, self liking, self love, self validation, deservingness, self support, self confidence, self image, overcome fear, guilt and shame (yes, it has the entire script of E2’s OGSF and self validation modules in it [V2.0 and later], although it is modified to not disrupt the goals of this program) and so forth. These are the goals that will make you congruent with the effects you get from Goal #1, which is required for maximum success. Now much more heavily, aggressively and specifically focused on the achieving the goals of the program. This goal is only active in 3.2-A.

Shannon, kinda confused. Just to clarify... is goal 2 (as above) not in the skeleton script of DMSI 3.2B?

And goal 2 stuff is only in version A?

Also how does the Self Esteem program fit into this because that program was added to 3.2B, so is that left out of A because goal 2 deals with self esteem already?
Hi Shannon,

In regards to sleep aid, I can fall in asleep super quick, but also a very light sleeper so my true rest hours are like 2 each night even I was in bed sleeping for 7.

I’m thinking of a playlist of one loop of DMSI followed by multiple loops of sleep aid for the rest of the night. Do you think it will work?
3.2A definitely causes a drain, I need at least 2-3 hrs of extra sleep to function normally and am twice as hungry as normal, I experienced a similar occurrence with 3.1A.
Funny, I'm having zero issues with drain, hunger or tiredness on A.
Quote:H&C should not drain you.

Hmm interesting. It does to me. Even with other things like tapping or brainspotting if i've worked on something intense then i'm drained for a few days while it's processing. So I just kind of accepted that as normal.
I would also chime in that I'm feeling the drain as well. Need extra sleep a lot more now. I do wonder, if its not H&C then could it be a change in epigenetics then? I remember you saying that you had a strong disposition to believe that the sub at this point might be affecting us on a epigenetic level. If this is true could this be whats causing some of the tiredness maybe? I know we discussed how when you implement changing on a genetic level that you might experience tiredness from weeks to maybe even months. So maybe even a change at the epigenetic level might cause similar tiredness.

Also Shannon I had 2 questions if you aren't busy. I know you said before that you might come out with the genetic changing stuff at around or slightly after 6G is finished. Have you considered maybe finishing it first then have it included in DMSI final? I'm just asking because I do think it might play an important part. If evolutionary theory is true and women choose the man with the most resources and/or best genetics to breed with wouldn't it make sense to have that included in DMSI final? Obviously I think you already said you might include something with wealth management/growth in a later edition but just seeing if you gave more thought to tackling the other side of the issue with the genetic stuff. I can't speak for anyone else but I know for myself I wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer for final if it included the genetic component (granted we still have 3.3 before that).

Also, have you thought about where you will put AYPs in 6G in the que? Would consider it probably after your done testing 6G with ASC (possibly DMSI final if that turns out to be 6G)? I mention that because I know from the threads that it seems like AM7 would be the most wanted 6G sub after your done testing but I know it usually takes you a while to complete a 6 stage sub (that's if AM7 even needs to be 6 stages). Could it be possible to maybe squeeze a few 6G AYPs in between that time since I assume ( I hope correctly) that the AYPs wouldn't take as much time due to length of the scripts and if they are of the same type you would only have to change a few words around?
Shannon would DMSI 3.2 in the long term help with Avoidant Attachment Style

More specifically, Fearful-Avoidant Attachment: People with Fearful-Avoidant Attachment patterns are ambivalent and afraid of commitment. They strike a balance in relationships in an attempt to avoid being too close or distant. They want to have their emotional needs met, but fear being too close.

Some examples I see in myself:

"Avoidants need love like everyone else, so they will miss their partners when they are not around. Once their partners return, they feel ‘trapped’ and hanker after space again."

This I see as a positive "Consequently, Avoidant partners cherish independence. They are firmly self-reliant and condescend to those who need others. Conversely, those who are secure realize the need for both freedom and partnership."

This dislike for attachment is for friends too, this is why I have no close friends because I feel that when people get close, I lose freedom, so I choose to keep guys on a top surface level.

Saying that though... I am able to get close to certain women (The ones I end up being in a relationship with) as close intimacy with a woman is more enjoyable and obviously has more perks. I enjoy the feminine energy of an attractive woman, especially if we have things in common and "connect". But that closeness only goes so far obviously.

I am a loner, but it is only because I feel like I lose my freedom if I let people get close to me, so I keep them at bay, I have been like this for a long time, so I am use to it and I do enjoy it to some extent because ...I have no attachments and I am free. Now I am just questioning it and wondering why I feel like it and wondering why I am like it. If I continue like this I will be fine, I would rather be like this than have toxic people and/or people I don't get on with ...suffocating me.

I can imagine it would be nice to have genuine close friends that I can connect with and have things in common with and enjoy times with and laugh together etc. That does feel alien to me now though.

I did one month of DMSI 3.2 B and I then took a week off because I chose to do something with another company but noticed it created resistance within me and realised how with DMSI 3.2 B, I never experienced resistance (All your other subs gave me resistance) and remembered how good I felt. So last night I decided to come back and start with DMSI 3.2 "A" this time round, even though I did not feel any resistance on version B.
(03-31-2018, 03:10 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon would DMSI 3.2 in the long term help with Avoidant Attachment Style

More specifically, Fearful-Avoidant Attachment: People with Fearful-Avoidant Attachment patterns are ambivalent and afraid of commitment. They strike a balance in relationships in an attempt to avoid being too close or distant. They want to have their emotional needs met, but fear being too close.

Some examples I see in myself:

"Avoidants need love like everyone else, so they will miss their partners when they are not around. Once their partners return, they feel ‘trapped’ and hanker after space again."

This I see as a positive "Consequently, Avoidant partners cherish independence. They are firmly self-reliant and condescend to those who need others. Conversely, those who are secure realize the need for both freedom and partnership."

This dislike for attachment is for friends too, this is why I have no close friends because I feel that when people get close, I lose freedom, so I choose to keep guys on a top surface level.

Saying that though... I am able to get close to certain women (The ones I end up being in a relationship with) as close intimacy with a woman is more enjoyable and obviously has more perks. I enjoy the feminine energy of an attractive woman, especially if we have things in common and "connect". But that closeness only goes so far obviously.

I am a loner, but it is only because I feel like I lose my freedom if I let people get close to me, so I keep them at bay, I have been like this for a long time, so I am use to it and I do enjoy it to some extent because ...I have no attachments and I am free. Now I am just questioning it and wondering why I feel like it and wondering why I am like it. If I continue like this I will be fine, I would rather be like this than have toxic people and/or people I don't get on with ...suffocating me.

I can imagine it would be nice to have genuine close friends that I can connect with and have things in common with and enjoy times with and laugh together etc. That does feel alien to me now though. .

I'm pretty much exactly the same way
Me too. Actually works pretty well when getting into relationships because I let them come to me emotionally, but it's like a constant break that's there, preventing me from ever letting go too much. Idk of that's something left by an over-controlling parent, or why would there be that association from allowing too close to loss of freedom, when one doesn't have much trouble saying no and making his own damn choices otherwise.
(03-29-2018, 09:21 PM)ChangeMaker Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks Benjamin for you answer! I saw many testimonials here regarding combining BIATBW 8.0, and DAOS 2.0, since both are 4G products!

Do you think combining both create a bigger difference?
In my eyes, attraction, and seduction are not same! I may attract very hot women, but after I attract her, when we communicate with each other, if I fail to seduce her, she will throw me at her friend-zone!
Do you think, these programs are gonna make me naturally good with women, not just atrract them!

It's also important to mention that the subliminals that are creating an aura of sexiness around you is kinda like skipping steps. You are meant to have that kind of an aura after a great deal of sexy experiences with women. The experiences create a certain belief system that creates that aura.
(03-31-2018, 09:52 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-29-2018, 09:21 PM)ChangeMaker Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks Benjamin for you answer! I saw many testimonials here regarding combining BIATBW 8.0, and DAOS 2.0, since both are 4G products!

Do you think combining both create a bigger difference?
In my eyes, attraction, and seduction are not same! I may attract very hot women, but after I attract her, when we communicate with each other, if I fail to seduce her, she will throw me at her friend-zone!
Do you think, these programs are gonna make me naturally good with women, not just atrract them!

It's also important to mention that the subliminals that are creating an aura of sexiness around you is kinda like skipping steps. You are meant to have that kind of an aura after a great deal of sexy experiences with women. The experiences create a certain belief system that creates that aura. But Sex Magnet has all that, so if you get the money try sex magnet or dmsi.

Does that mean that after enough exposure to the sub and with enough sexy experience with women, the aura becomes permanent?
(04-01-2018, 01:57 AM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-31-2018, 09:52 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-29-2018, 09:21 PM)ChangeMaker Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks Benjamin for you answer! I saw many testimonials here regarding combining BIATBW 8.0, and DAOS 2.0, since both are 4G products!

Do you think combining both create a bigger difference?
In my eyes, attraction, and seduction are not same! I may attract very hot women, but after I attract her, when we communicate with each other, if I fail to seduce her, she will throw me at her friend-zone!
Do you think, these programs are gonna make me naturally good with women, not just atrract them!

It's also important to mention that the subliminals that are creating an aura of sexiness around you is kinda like skipping steps. You are meant to have that kind of an aura after a great deal of sexy experiences with women. The experiences create a certain belief system that creates that aura. But Sex Magnet has all that, so if you get the money try sex magnet or dmsi.

Does that mean that after enough exposure to the sub and with enough sexy experience with women, the aura becomes permanent?

I dont know. Never tried that.
The respect you get from DMSI is f***g real.

Last night, I was in a hookah place watching the Antony Joshua match with a friend and a few other people he knew.

A guy came to sit with us (call him A) that knew one of the girls. I didn't speak to him as he was all the way on the other side, he was only talking to about 2 people in out group.

30 mins after he sat down, a guy (call him B) approached the guy A sitting with us and stated he knew him. A's cousin had stabbed the B's friend and he recognised A's face as one of the people who were there when this happened. All of B's friends were in this venue and more were coming once they realized they caught an 'opp'. Within 20 minutes, there were about 20 guys outside with knives and a couple of guns. A's friends weren't coming to help him out even after he sat there for an hour trying to call them.

How did DMSI affect me in this situation?
1. Saw the whole situation as unfortunate but there was literally 0 fear. Everyone around me was shook up.
2. I walked past a few of B's friends when I was going to the toilet. They were real polite. There was a narrow pass where only one person could walk through- they let me pass first saying 'after you bro'. Bearing in mind that these guys had guns/knives and were here to seriously injure someone or worse.
3. Even before the whole situation, guys seem to be somehow intimidated/have respect for me.
4.IOIs from most good looking girls I saw.

There was also a girl there that wanted to hit on me. The more I ignored her and focused on something else, more she liked me. She ended up witting next to me etc. Wasn't hot enough for me so I didn't try anything.

Im pretty sure DMSI can easily hit the design goals if I lowered my standards. lol
(04-01-2018, 05:39 AM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]The respect you get from DMSI is f***g real.

Last night, I was in a hookah place watching the Antony Joshua match with a friend and a few other people he knew.

A guy came to sit with us (call him A) that knew one of the girls. I didn't speak to him as he was all the way on the other side, he was only talking to about 2 people in out group.

30 mins after he sat down, a guy (call him B) approached the guy A sitting with us and stated he knew him. A's cousin had stabbed the B's friend and he recognised A's face as one of the people who were there when this happened. All of B's friends were in this venue and more were coming once they realized they caught an 'opp'. Within 20 minutes, there were about 20 guys outside with knives and a couple of guns. A's friends weren't coming to help him out even after he sat there for an hour trying to call them.

How did DMSI affect me in this situation?
1. Saw the whole situation as unfortunate but there was literally 0 fear. Everyone around me was shook up.
2. I walked past a few of B's friends when I was going to the toilet. They were real polite. There was a narrow pass where only one person could walk through- they let me pass first saying 'after you bro'. Bearing in mind that these guys had guns/knives and were here to seriously injure someone or worse.
3. Even before the whole situation, guys seem to be somehow intimidated/have respect for me.
4.IOIs from most good looking girls I saw.

There was also a girl there that wanted to hit on me. The more I ignored her and focused on something else, more she liked me. She ended up witting next to me etc. Wasn't hot enough for me so I didn't try anything.

Im pretty sure DMSI can easily hit the design goals if I lowered my standards. lol

Word for the wise, never ever turn down a pussy smash one-time act like it never happened
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