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Exactly. On my DMSI run I had numerous times the urge to go back on AM6. Even mentioning it seems to awaken the "urge" to do so. When I see people report it, im like "its resistence" if I have it, my mind paints it in glory to do so, while I predict that, if I would give in, I would "regret" it later on.

I feel im executing currently tho. The layers get more clear to me/more obvious as what is "holding me back"
Thanks Guys I needed someone else to confirm that this is indeed me running away from DMSI
I was at the hospital for something minor and while sleeping on the bed, I asked a nurse a question. She immediately looked at me, stuttered, blushed and dropped all her papers on the floor. lol.
I emailed support and was told to post here since there's a better chance of it being viewed by Shannon.

I did AM6 for 2 years, DMSI 3.1 for few months, 3.2b for few weeks without any negative side effects. I recently started 3.2A and i'm experiencing pain in the back of the head that lasts all day. Once i stop using dmsi, the pain goes away after 2 days. Once i start using dmsi again, it comes back. It's not a headache like feeling but more like a head injury pain feeling and pressure pain like your head is in a vice clamp. Support believed it was due to healing? Should i continue using dmsi 3.2a or discontinue? Thanks.
Shannon, I've run 7 loops of B last 9 days and I watched porn and masturbated to it 3 days. Also, I went to a strip club and spent money on lap dances since I hadn't gotten any sexual pleasure. I had lost total interest in visiting strip clubs on 3.1 and 3.2 with the lower number of loops. Saturday, before watching porn and fapping, my mind was persuading me to give up DMSI by saying, "Fuck it! DMSI isn't doing anything. Watch porn and fap." So, I spent the entire day watching porn and fapping. I did the same thing yesterday too. Along with those, I had too much rage about the societal conditioning and my family's upbringing of me. I feel now I should have transmuted that rage and sexual energy into something productive to achieve the goal. But my mind tricked me into staying home and doing nothing over the weekend. Nothing at all.

Now, what is special about it is it took years for me to totally eliminate porn from my life. I used to be a porn addict and it engulfed almost 5 years of my life. I was able to totally remove it after years of trial and error 3 years ago. I reset my brain, I was enjoying my life. But this kind of IDGAF attitude brought up by 7 loops of B is totally unusual. I feel very meek and scared today. I regret about the relapse. I know a lot of disadvantages that can be brought by porn and masturbation to porn specially to one's brain. I researched a lot since I needed to get myself out of it in order to change my life. This relapse is creating a lot of anger in me now and I literally want to burst like a bomb. I can feel the rage trying to come out of my skin specially my hands and my legs. I wish I could kick and punch everything in front of me.

I wonder this IDGAF attitude is a loophole to prevent one from achieving any of the goal of DMSI. Please suggest me what I should do and also if you could close this loophole in 3.3 that would be fantastic.
(07-16-2018, 05:24 AM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, I"ve run 7 loops of B last 9 days and I watched porn and masturbated to it 3 days. Also, I went to a strip club and spent money on lap dances since I hadn't gotten any sexual pleasure. I had lost total interest in visiting strip clubs on 3.1 and 3.2 with the lower number of loops. Saturday, before watching porn and fapping, my mind was persuading me to give up DMSI by saying, "**** it! DMSI isn't doing anything. Watch porn and fap." So, I spent the entire day watching porn and fapping. I did the same thing yesterday too. Along with those, I had too much rage about the societal conditioning and my family's upbringing of me. I feel now I should have transmuted that rage and sexual energy into something productive to achieve the goal. But my mind tricked me into staying home and doing nothing over the weekend. Nothing at all.

Now, what is special about it is it took years for me to totally eliminate porn from my life. I used to be a porn addict and it engulfed almost 5 years of my life. I was able to totally remove it after years of trial and error 3 years ago. I reset my brain, I was enjoying my life. But this kind of IDGAF attitude brought up by 7 loops of B is totally unusual. I feel very meek and scared today. I regret about the relapse. I know a lot of disadvantages that can be brought by porn and masturbation to porn specially to one's brain. I researched a lot since I needed to get myself out of it in order to change my life. This relapse is creating a lot of anger in me now and I literally want to burst like a bomb. I can feel the rage trying to come out of my skin specially my hands and my legs. I wish I could kick and punch everything in front of me.

I wonder this IDGAF attitude is a loophole to prevent one from achieving any of the goal of DMSI. Please suggest me what I should do and also if you could close this loophole in 3.3 that would be fantastic.

Sounds like classic reversal-resistance to me. The radically increased number of loops must have scared some part of you.

First off, try not to beat yourself up, or panic, about what just happened. Accept it as a "mistakes were made" type of deal, as it isn't the end of the world, and try to exercise more willpower in the future.

The rage would also indicate that something big is clearing through, at least I remember getting some serious rage-filled episodes when I was doing 1 loops of ver. A in my original run of it (I kinda broke a chair and made a hole in my door, lol, because I kicked it in rage). And then a big thing cleared through. There's a good chance it's not even porn or masturbation-related. The resistance mechanism used might have actually nothing to do with what your subC is finding scary - it's probably a way of trying to distract you and steer you away from the important stuff going on under the hood.

I do believe Shannon's planning improvements that are going to help with that stuff in 3.3.
We should not ask too many questions to Shannon as he needs the time to begin work on the focus fire subs and the new version of DMSI. I suggest we keep questions to a minimal or address them to Ben.
(07-16-2018, 05:34 AM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-16-2018, 05:24 AM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, I"ve run 7 loops of B last 9 days and I watched porn and masturbated to it 3 days. Also, I went to a strip club and spent money on lap dances since I hadn't gotten any sexual pleasure. I had lost total interest in visiting strip clubs on 3.1 and 3.2 with the lower number of loops. Saturday, before watching porn and fapping, my mind was persuading me to give up DMSI by saying, "**** it! DMSI isn't doing anything. Watch porn and fap." So, I spent the entire day watching porn and fapping. I did the same thing yesterday too. Along with those, I had too much rage about the societal conditioning and my family's upbringing of me. I feel now I should have transmuted that rage and sexual energy into something productive to achieve the goal. But my mind tricked me into staying home and doing nothing over the weekend. Nothing at all.

Now, what is special about it is it took years for me to totally eliminate porn from my life. I used to be a porn addict and it engulfed almost 5 years of my life. I was able to totally remove it after years of trial and error 3 years ago. I reset my brain, I was enjoying my life. But this kind of IDGAF attitude brought up by 7 loops of B is totally unusual. I feel very meek and scared today. I regret about the relapse. I know a lot of disadvantages that can be brought by porn and masturbation to porn specially to one's brain. I researched a lot since I needed to get myself out of it in order to change my life. This relapse is creating a lot of anger in me now and I literally want to burst like a bomb. I can feel the rage trying to come out of my skin specially my hands and my legs. I wish I could kick and punch everything in front of me.

I wonder this IDGAF attitude is a loophole to prevent one from achieving any of the goal of DMSI. Please suggest me what I should do and also if you could close this loophole in 3.3 that would be fantastic.

Sounds like classic reversal-resistance to me. The radically increased number of loops must have scared some part of you.

First off, try not to beat yourself up, or panic, about what just happened. Accept it as a "mistakes were made" type of deal, as it isn't the end of the world, and try to exercise more willpower in the future.

The rage would also indicate that something big is clearing through, at least I remember getting some serious rage-filled episodes when I was doing 1 loops of ver. A in my original run of it (I kinda broke a chair and made a hole in my door, lol, because I kicked it in rage). And then a big thing cleared through. There's a good chance it's not even porn or masturbation-related. The resistance mechanism used might have actually nothing to do with what your subC is finding scary - it's probably a way of trying to distract you and steer you away from the important stuff going on under the hood.

I do believe Shannon's planning improvements that are going to help with that stuff in 3.3.

I hope so Have at ye.

Shannon, I'm with Jake on closing frequenting the strip clubs to get naked dances. It's a loophole from my subconscious.
(07-16-2018, 05:39 AM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-16-2018, 05:34 AM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-16-2018, 05:24 AM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, I"ve run 7 loops of B last 9 days and I watched porn and masturbated to it 3 days. Also, I went to a strip club and spent money on lap dances since I hadn't gotten any sexual pleasure. I had lost total interest in visiting strip clubs on 3.1 and 3.2 with the lower number of loops. Saturday, before watching porn and fapping, my mind was persuading me to give up DMSI by saying, "**** it! DMSI isn't doing anything. Watch porn and fap." So, I spent the entire day watching porn and fapping. I did the same thing yesterday too. Along with those, I had too much rage about the societal conditioning and my family's upbringing of me. I feel now I should have transmuted that rage and sexual energy into something productive to achieve the goal. But my mind tricked me into staying home and doing nothing over the weekend. Nothing at all.

Now, what is special about it is it took years for me to totally eliminate porn from my life. I used to be a porn addict and it engulfed almost 5 years of my life. I was able to totally remove it after years of trial and error 3 years ago. I reset my brain, I was enjoying my life. But this kind of IDGAF attitude brought up by 7 loops of B is totally unusual. I feel very meek and scared today. I regret about the relapse. I know a lot of disadvantages that can be brought by porn and masturbation to porn specially to one's brain. I researched a lot since I needed to get myself out of it in order to change my life. This relapse is creating a lot of anger in me now and I literally want to burst like a bomb. I can feel the rage trying to come out of my skin specially my hands and my legs. I wish I could kick and punch everything in front of me.

I wonder this IDGAF attitude is a loophole to prevent one from achieving any of the goal of DMSI. Please suggest me what I should do and also if you could close this loophole in 3.3 that would be fantastic.

Sounds like classic reversal-resistance to me. The radically increased number of loops must have scared some part of you.

First off, try not to beat yourself up, or panic, about what just happened. Accept it as a "mistakes were made" type of deal, as it isn't the end of the world, and try to exercise more willpower in the future.

The rage would also indicate that something big is clearing through, at least I remember getting some serious rage-filled episodes when I was doing 1 loops of ver. A in my original run of it (I kinda broke a chair and made a hole in my door, lol, because I kicked it in rage). And then a big thing cleared through. There's a good chance it's not even porn or masturbation-related. The resistance mechanism used might have actually nothing to do with what your subC is finding scary - it's probably a way of trying to distract you and steer you away from the important stuff going on under the hood.

I do believe Shannon's planning improvements that are going to help with that stuff in 3.3.

I hope so Have at ye.

Shannon, I'm with Jake on closing frequenting the strip clubs to get naked dances. It's a loophole from my subconscious.

It's in the partial "planned additions" list Shannon posted here recently, IIRC.
(07-16-2018, 05:44 AM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]It's in the partial "planned additions" list Shannon posted here recently, IIRC.

Do you have a link of this list?

Thanks.
(07-15-2018, 08:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-15-2018, 02:15 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-15-2018, 08:05 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-13-2018, 03:15 PM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon What are the things you are thinking of adding on to DMSI 3.3? Thanks

I have a list of additions as long as my arm. lol I want some of them to be a pleasant surprise that I tell you about when I release the program, but a few from the list include...
  • Prevent unwanted conception.
  • Improve anti-STD programming.
  • Make it win-win for the user and the affected to execute.
  • Improve adjustment of self image to be congruent with what DMSI is attempting to achieve.
  • Make your actions and choices congruent with celebrity.
  • Prevent hiring a hooker or an escort to pay your way to sex as an escape from executing DMSI.
  • Adjust the perception of the goals of the program to make them reasonable, natural, possible.
  • Modulate the effects of the entire aura to make them non-threatening on a case by case basis.
  • Improve disconnect from negativity programming.
  • Communicate to all layers and levels of awareness that you consciously want to achieve the goals of this program, and are giving yourself permission to do so.

I'll stop there. There's a lot more, of course. I have been gathering ideas from the forum discussions for a while now. The really interesting stuff will remain a secret, at least for now.

May I ask you include a feature in future versions to increase sperm volume ? if that is possible.

I am sure the ladies would love to have their sperm volume increased.

Why would you ask for that, women users aside?

It's here. I quoted some more stuff because the female sperm count dealio amuses me.

I think strip-clubs, etc., would somehow fall into "paying for sex", or at least that bit can be further developed to encompass strip clubs etc. also.
(07-16-2018, 05:56 AM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-15-2018, 08:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-15-2018, 02:15 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-15-2018, 08:05 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-13-2018, 03:15 PM)kingpill Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon What are the things you are thinking of adding on to DMSI 3.3? Thanks

I have a list of additions as long as my arm. lol I want some of them to be a pleasant surprise that I tell you about when I release the program, but a few from the list include...
  • Prevent unwanted conception.
  • Improve anti-STD programming.
  • Make it win-win for the user and the affected to execute.
  • Improve adjustment of self image to be congruent with what DMSI is attempting to achieve.
  • Make your actions and choices congruent with celebrity.
  • Prevent hiring a hooker or an escort to pay your way to sex as an escape from executing DMSI.
  • Adjust the perception of the goals of the program to make them reasonable, natural, possible.
  • Modulate the effects of the entire aura to make them non-threatening on a case by case basis.
  • Improve disconnect from negativity programming.
  • Communicate to all layers and levels of awareness that you consciously want to achieve the goals of this program, and are giving yourself permission to do so.

I'll stop there. There's a lot more, of course. I have been gathering ideas from the forum discussions for a while now. The really interesting stuff will remain a secret, at least for now.

May I ask you include a feature in future versions to increase sperm volume ? if that is possible.

I am sure the ladies would love to have their sperm volume increased.

Why would you ask for that, women users aside?

It's here. I quoted some more stuff because the female sperm count dealio amuses me.

I think strip-clubs, etc., would somehow fall into "paying for sex", or at least that bit can be further developed to encompass strip clubs etc. also.

Thank you Have at ye!

I think most women DO want more sperm count actually. Lol

Ahem, anyhow, if it hasn't already been noted: sexual performance needs to be improved for SURE. Whether that be getting erections or lasting longer than a few seconds.

I lasted long my last time in bed with a girl, but wasn't hard enough to fuck her. Just got deep throat BJ's for 15 minutes, which is great, but the poor girl wants the D, you know?

We need that fixed.

I'm already looking into eating better to improve it, but since I wake up with diamond hard erections most nights, I know my dick can get erected just fine. It's lasting long that is my main concern atm.

Anyhow, good stuff. Looking forward to 3.3! :o
(07-15-2018, 09:14 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Reality bending is designed to create a situation in which you make certain adjustments that result in the goals of the program. It's aimed not so much at magnifying the effects of the program, but the effectiveness of the program in achieving its goals. It is for the most part ASS/ART. The magnitude of "luck" is handled by something else.

@Shannon That last line caught my eye so I wanted to ask: Have you learned a lot from when you made LM 4g til now to the point where you can increase the magnitude by a lot?

I can increase the magnitude, but it is as yet somewhat unclear how much.

Quote:Also, I was just curious because I remember you saying that with reality bending there is dangers if you do too much reality bending. I was wondering is there any dangers with increasing the magnitude of "luck" too much?

If pushed too far, there are dangers to manipulating luck too much. They are in fact similar to those of reality bending, but to a lesser degree in most cases. Manipulating your reality must be done with respect for the rules by which reality works, and with an awareness in mind for the universe to always balance itself. It is with these things in mind that we must proceed with appropriate wisdom, restraint, technique and caution in doing so. That is why we at IML take small steps and do not throw caution and safety to the wind. It takes longer, but it is a better result in the end.

Quote:Is there any limits to how much "luck" can be manipulated?

Yes.

Quote:Lastly, can't remember if you said you put LM in the DMSI already but if not will you probably make LM part of the skeleton script to aid in the goals of whatever program it is in? So, might be possible to see it in 3.3 (if it isn't already included in DMSI that is). Sorry if this is too many questions I'm just really interested in knowing this and excited about this subject.

There is a module in the skeleton script that does something similar to what LM does, but which is more appropriate for helping the user achieve the goals of the program they are using. It is not using luck, however.
(07-15-2018, 09:24 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]It' been almost two months now running the sub at 7 loops. Over the last few days I am getting dreams of someone asking me to fly a plane and telling me its easy. I prepare myself to fly the plane and the dream ends.

Another one is of me lying their and a naked woman is lying next to me then I see my father in the distant then the dream ends.

Deep down because I have allowed my mother and father to dominate and control my life. Its almost I have guilty feelings because I am distancing myself from them. If I was truely alpha I hate putting labels on things but seriously I wouldn't feel this guilt but I am its like I feel afraid.

I feel there is still some clearing to do the funny thing is when I get scared. I think back to a famous quote in one of the Game of Thrones episodes "At times we are scared it is at these times one must be brave"

Shannon should I run the AMS refresher to clear out these guilty feelings of distancing myself from my parents ?. The reason I do this is to better my life and wanting my happiness it seemed all about their happiness before mine.

Trying to figure out the aeroplane dream and what is means or is trying to tellme.

This, as you already realized, is resistance. You have achieved the goals, but the tide is going out and your subconscious is now working on another fear, which this time is the programming that has been instilled in you that you should feel bad and guilty for not allowing yourself to be manipulated by others, and in this case, your parents in specific.

AM makes no sense to switch to. It is DMSI-A you want.
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