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(09-10-2018, 03:02 AM)worldpua Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon can you explain me the consequences of masturbation and coffeine to a USLM user? I read the faq and you suggest against and in another post here i read they dont have such a big impact. I am drinking black coffee since i was a young man 3-6 cups per day. Even though i have a very active sex life and i do jerk off every day

Do you have these conditions to avoid mental blocks? How important for the progress is to stop coffee? How about jerking off?

Thanks

USLM uses state shifting to help it achieve its goals. If you use caffeine, it will chemically force state to be the result of the caffeine, and not the state USLM is attempting to achieve, thus degrading the effects of USLM.

I don't know that masturbation would make a difference to USLM unless it would somehow sabotage one or more goals you have to try to achieve while using that program.

But 3 to 6 cups of coffee a day is a hell of a lot of caffeine. 3 or more cups of coffee will give me poisoning symptoms, no joke.

This isn't something I put in to try to prevent you from drinking coffee and such, it's a method of making the program more effective that happens to be disrupted by doing things like smoking cigarettes, drinking caffeine, alcohol, doing recreational drugs, etc.
(09-10-2018, 03:56 AM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]Is the new ASC going to be out in a foreseeable future?

I'm expecting it sometime in 2019.
(09-10-2018, 05:09 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Wanted to ask and it is similar to the last topic I asked about. Do you think that genetic programming (Ability for the subliminal to affect the person on a genetic level) might be ready to be included in DMSI 3.4? If not then, maybe down the road if you decided to make a 6G version of the sub? This is all supposing if including that in DMSI would even be effective in the first place.

If I was to focus on it, it might very well be. But why would altering your genes make sense in DMSI? That is what we have to figure out before I start creating subs that are directly trying to achieve genetic manipulation. There has to be a very, VERY good reason to go that low level, and a very clearly defined and very specific goal to achieve.
(09-10-2018, 09:57 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 03:02 AM)worldpua Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon can you explain me the consequences of masturbation and coffeine to a USLM user? I read the faq and you suggest against and in another post here i read they dont have such a big impact. I am drinking black coffee since i was a young man 3-6 cups per day. Even though i have a very active sex life and i do jerk off every day

Do you have these conditions to avoid mental blocks? How important for the progress is to stop coffee? How about jerking off?

Thanks

USLM uses state shifting to help it achieve its goals. If you use caffeine, it will chemically force state to be the result of the caffeine, and not the state USLM is attempting to achieve, thus degrading the effects of USLM.

I don't know that masturbation would make a difference to USLM unless it would somehow sabotage one or more goals you have to try to achieve while using that program.

But 3 to 6 cups of coffee a day is a hell of a lot of caffeine. 3 or more cups of coffee will give me poisoning symptoms, no joke.

This isn't something I put in to try to prevent you from drinking coffee and such, it's a method of making the program more effective that happens to be disrupted by doing things like smoking cigarettes, drinking caffeine, alcohol, doing recreational drugs, etc.

Where is the state shifting mentioned regarding to USLM? I don´t see it in product description nor in faq (at least not found result when using browser search function with "shift" nor "state"). More importantly at this point to me personally; is such a state shifting used in UMOP (again, no search results)? If so, I will cut off even my regular 1 shot of daily espresso to get max out of the sub.

I think it would be good idea to have the state shifting mentioned in every product description that uses it, unless I am missing it/something..
(09-10-2018, 09:59 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 05:09 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Wanted to ask and it is similar to the last topic I asked about. Do you think that genetic programming (Ability for the subliminal to affect the person on a genetic level) might be ready to be included in DMSI 3.4? If not then, maybe down the road if you decided to make a 6G version of the sub? This is all supposing if including that in DMSI would even be effective in the first place.

If I was to focus on it, it might very well be. But why would altering your genes make sense in DMSI? That is what we have to figure out before I start creating subs that are directly trying to achieve genetic manipulation. There has to be a very, VERY good reason to go that low level, and a very clearly defined and very specific goal to achieve.

Why would it not? Isn’t DMSI about sex? And isn’t sex basically about passing on good genes?
(09-10-2018, 10:38 AM)AlphaRomeo Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 09:57 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 03:02 AM)worldpua Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon can you explain me the consequences of masturbation and coffeine to a USLM user? I read the faq and you suggest against and in another post here i read they dont have such a big impact. I am drinking black coffee since i was a young man 3-6 cups per day. Even though i have a very active sex life and i do jerk off every day

Do you have these conditions to avoid mental blocks? How important for the progress is to stop coffee? How about jerking off?

Thanks

USLM uses state shifting to help it achieve its goals. If you use caffeine, it will chemically force state to be the result of the caffeine, and not the state USLM is attempting to achieve, thus degrading the effects of USLM.

I don't know that masturbation would make a difference to USLM unless it would somehow sabotage one or more goals you have to try to achieve while using that program.

But 3 to 6 cups of coffee a day is a hell of a lot of caffeine. 3 or more cups of coffee will give me poisoning symptoms, no joke.

This isn't something I put in to try to prevent you from drinking coffee and such, it's a method of making the program more effective that happens to be disrupted by doing things like smoking cigarettes, drinking caffeine, alcohol, doing recreational drugs, etc.

Where is the state shifting mentioned regarding to USLM? I don´t see it in product description nor in faq (at least not found result when using browser search function with "shift" nor "state"). More importantly at this point to me personally; is such a state shifting used in UMOP (again, no search results)? If so, I will cut off even my regular 1 shot of daily espresso to get max out of the sub.

I think it would be good idea to have the state shifting mentioned in every product description that uses it, unless I am missing it/something..


I didnt even know USLM had state shifting in it...at all...didnt even think about it...but IM loving it,but I can see,how thats been happening since beginning USLM... ON the Coffee thing- MY version of Coffee is this:
1/2 a Cup of ":Real" medium strength Coffee(cant take nor handle the real strong stuff) part hot water,soy milk and then Honey! its almost not even coffee any more. been doing this for 20 yrs now. Replaced Sugar with honey 25 yrs ago..found out that sugar magnifies and/or promotes negative feelings,thinking. Pure cane unprocessed sugar,well that's a horse of a different colour! a whole 'nother thing,altogether.
I Make my Coffee at home 99% of the time,I cant stand starbucks,never have and I dont do Carribo coffee or the like,its way way too industrial for this Kid! I dont wanna drink something that'll keep me up for 4 days,and a da'll make me shake like a Leaf,too. seriously that shits way way too strong fer me. to each HIS own !
As far as USLM usage, Im having some amazing experiences, re-directing & changing my world...14 hours into it( see MY journal),now 2 days into it... and I can definitely see how I've been shifting states, even a little while ago,I experienced such talkin on da phone with a good freind.
I Love this program so much,I dont wanna miss a second of it, that is,in getting my " 7 Loops In!"
I'd love to know more about all the bells and whistle in USLM,though.
(09-10-2018, 11:48 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 10:38 AM)AlphaRomeo Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 09:57 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 03:02 AM)worldpua Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon can you explain me the consequences of masturbation and coffeine to a USLM user? I read the faq and you suggest against and in another post here i read they dont have such a big impact. I am drinking black coffee since i was a young man 3-6 cups per day. Even though i have a very active sex life and i do jerk off every day

Do you have these conditions to avoid mental blocks? How important for the progress is to stop coffee? How about jerking off?

Thanks

USLM uses state shifting to help it achieve its goals. If you use caffeine, it will chemically force state to be the result of the caffeine, and not the state USLM is attempting to achieve, thus degrading the effects of USLM.

I don't know that masturbation would make a difference to USLM unless it would somehow sabotage one or more goals you have to try to achieve while using that program.

But 3 to 6 cups of coffee a day is a hell of a lot of caffeine. 3 or more cups of coffee will give me poisoning symptoms, no joke.

This isn't something I put in to try to prevent you from drinking coffee and such, it's a method of making the program more effective that happens to be disrupted by doing things like smoking cigarettes, drinking caffeine, alcohol, doing recreational drugs, etc.

Where is the state shifting mentioned regarding to USLM? I don´t see it in product description nor in faq (at least not found result when using browser search function with "shift" nor "state"). More importantly at this point to me personally; is such a state shifting used in UMOP (again, no search results)? If so, I will cut off even my regular 1 shot of daily espresso to get max out of the sub.

I think it would be good idea to have the state shifting mentioned in every product description that uses it, unless I am missing it/something..


I didnt even know USLM had state shifting in it...at all...didnt even think about it...but IM loving it,but I can see,how thats been happening since beginning USLM... ON the Coffee thing- MY version of Coffee is this:
1/2 a Cup of ":Real" medium strength Coffee(cant take nor handle the real strong stuff) part hot water,soy milk and then Honey! its almost not even coffee any more. been doing this for 20 yrs now. Replaced Sugar with honey 25 yrs ago..found out that sugar magnifies and/or promotes negative feelings,thinking. Pure cane unprocessed sugar,well that's a horse of a different colour! a whole 'nother thing,altogether.
I Make my Coffee at home 99% of the time,I cant stand starbucks,never have and I dont do Carribo coffee or the like,its way way too industrial for this Kid! I dont wanna drink something that'll keep me up for 4 days,and a da'll make me shake like a Leaf,too. seriously that shits way way too strong fer me. to each HIS own !
As far as USLM usage, Im having some amazing experiences, re-directing & changing my world...14 hours into it( see MY journal),now 2 days into it... and I can definitely see how I've been shifting states, even a little while ago,I experienced such talkin on da phone with a good freind.
I Love this program so much,I dont wanna miss a second of it, that is,in getting my " 7 Loops In!"
I'd love to know more about all the bells and whistle in USLM,though.

I used UMOP few weeks, now been on a "forced" pause for a while due current circumstances and will resume to UMOP quite soon again. I still don´t know if it has or not state shifting, and did´t knew back then so I have been drinking my my daily espresso while on it and possibly breaking the state (if it has it).

Regarding to coffee...I hear you man. I used to drink couple double/triple/quadruple espressos per day. Took shaking to totally new level, I was leaf in a freaking hurricane. Now it´s usually only one single, and I´m considering giving up even that.
Thanks for the tip about using honey instead of sugar, I might try it if I still continue with espresso. I tried caffeine free espresso, but the (beans of that)one in my regular coffee shop tastes crap. I actually like to drink espresso for the taste of it (that is, if it´s made from quality beans) as much as for the effects of it.
Hi Shannon, any advice on how to not stonewall your subliminals, its frustrating to not see any results so if there is a way to get past this stonewalling would be good, or do i just have to hope 3.3 will be able to do that for me?
(09-10-2018, 10:38 AM)AlphaRomeo Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 09:57 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 03:02 AM)worldpua Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon can you explain me the consequences of masturbation and coffeine to a USLM user? I read the faq and you suggest against and in another post here i read they dont have such a big impact. I am drinking black coffee since i was a young man 3-6 cups per day. Even though i have a very active sex life and i do jerk off every day

Do you have these conditions to avoid mental blocks? How important for the progress is to stop coffee? How about jerking off?

Thanks

USLM uses state shifting to help it achieve its goals. If you use caffeine, it will chemically force state to be the result of the caffeine, and not the state USLM is attempting to achieve, thus degrading the effects of USLM.

I don't know that masturbation would make a difference to USLM unless it would somehow sabotage one or more goals you have to try to achieve while using that program.

But 3 to 6 cups of coffee a day is a hell of a lot of caffeine. 3 or more cups of coffee will give me poisoning symptoms, no joke.

This isn't something I put in to try to prevent you from drinking coffee and such, it's a method of making the program more effective that happens to be disrupted by doing things like smoking cigarettes, drinking caffeine, alcohol, doing recreational drugs, etc.

Where is the state shifting mentioned regarding to USLM? I don´t see it in product description nor in faq (at least not found result when using browser search function with "shift" nor "state"). More importantly at this point to me personally; is such a state shifting used in UMOP (again, no search results)? If so, I will cut off even my regular 1 shot of daily espresso to get max out of the sub.

I think it would be good idea to have the state shifting mentioned in every product description that uses it, unless I am missing it/something..

State shifting is a standard part of the 5.5G skeleton script since it's been introduced. It is one of many methods I use to optimize program performance. It may have been that I did not realize I had not stated that publicly.

It is in everything that has been built since it was introduced, and will be in everything from here on out, except where it conflicts with the goals of the program. Which should be pretty rare.
(09-10-2018, 10:47 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 09:59 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 05:09 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Wanted to ask and it is similar to the last topic I asked about. Do you think that genetic programming (Ability for the subliminal to affect the person on a genetic level) might be ready to be included in DMSI 3.4? If not then, maybe down the road if you decided to make a 6G version of the sub? This is all supposing if including that in DMSI would even be effective in the first place.

If I was to focus on it, it might very well be. But why would altering your genes make sense in DMSI? That is what we have to figure out before I start creating subs that are directly trying to achieve genetic manipulation. There has to be a very, VERY good reason to go that low level, and a very clearly defined and very specific goal to achieve.

Why would it not? Isn’t DMSI about sex? And isn’t sex basically about passing on good genes?

Altering your genes has to have one or more specific goals. What are these goals you think DMSI needs to alter genes to achieve?
Hey Shannon, I'd just like to throw out a reassurance, I guess, re your recent breakup and try not to focus too much on it. You probably already know the rational thoughts around it and your using E2 as your primary positive motivator at this time seems to support that, just don't let yourself completely discount the irrational, emotional side of it. 4.5 years is definitely a good chunk of time to spend with someone and it's certainly natural for it to be considered akin to a loss, whether the breakup is mutual or not, so I guess make sure the emotional parts of you have some sort of reassurance that things will be ok.

You seem to know what you're doing re H&C and I don't expect any advice or suggestions I could give to be something you haven't heard before, just know that even if it's people you haven't met in person you have a potential support system if you need it.
(09-10-2018, 05:36 PM)apollolux Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, I'd just like to throw out a reassurance, I guess, re your recent breakup and try not to focus too much on it. You probably already know the rational thoughts around it and your using E2 as your primary positive motivator at this time seems to support that, just don't let yourself completely discount the irrational, emotional side of it. 4.5 years is definitely a good chunk of time to spend with someone and it's certainly natural for it to be considered akin to a loss, whether the breakup is mutual or not, so I guess make sure the emotional parts of you have some sort of reassurance that things will be ok.

You seem to know what you're doing re H&C and I don't expect any advice or suggestions I could give to be something you haven't heard before, just know that even if it's people you haven't met in person you have a potential support system if you need it.

Thanks, man. I am amazed at how this has hit me. The only other time I have had anything hit me like this was when my mother died.

E2 has me functional, but circumstances are conspiring to make that a very slow "functional", because of this and the models being wonky right now.

But I appreciate your support.
(09-10-2018, 05:36 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 10:47 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 09:59 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 05:09 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Wanted to ask and it is similar to the last topic I asked about. Do you think that genetic programming (Ability for the subliminal to affect the person on a genetic level) might be ready to be included in DMSI 3.4? If not then, maybe down the road if you decided to make a 6G version of the sub? This is all supposing if including that in DMSI would even be effective in the first place.

If I was to focus on it, it might very well be. But why would altering your genes make sense in DMSI? That is what we have to figure out before I start creating subs that are directly trying to achieve genetic manipulation. There has to be a very, VERY good reason to go that low level, and a very clearly defined and very specific goal to achieve.

Why would it not? Isn’t DMSI about sex? And isn’t sex basically about passing on good genes?

Altering your genes has to have one or more specific goals. What are these goals you think DMSI needs to alter genes to achieve?

Well first I guess we'd have to define what genes women (the human species?) want, and then proceed to alter our own to be that. It may be a can of worms and I don't even know if it's possible but, theoretically, if genes are what women are searching for, then making the genes "right" would solve every single problem.

It's an exciting prospect but again, I don't know where to begin or how possible it is.
(09-10-2018, 06:03 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 05:36 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 10:47 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 09:59 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-10-2018, 05:09 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Wanted to ask and it is similar to the last topic I asked about. Do you think that genetic programming (Ability for the subliminal to affect the person on a genetic level) might be ready to be included in DMSI 3.4? If not then, maybe down the road if you decided to make a 6G version of the sub? This is all supposing if including that in DMSI would even be effective in the first place.

If I was to focus on it, it might very well be. But why would altering your genes make sense in DMSI? That is what we have to figure out before I start creating subs that are directly trying to achieve genetic manipulation. There has to be a very, VERY good reason to go that low level, and a very clearly defined and very specific goal to achieve.

Why would it not? Isn’t DMSI about sex? And isn’t sex basically about passing on good genes?

Altering your genes has to have one or more specific goals. What are these goals you think DMSI needs to alter genes to achieve?

Well first I guess we'd have to define what genes women (the human species?) want, and then proceed to alter our own to be that. It may be a can of worms and I don't even know if it's possible but, theoretically, if genes are what women are searching for, then making the genes "right" would solve every single problem.

It's an exciting prospect but again, I don't know where to begin or how possible it is.

Altering one's genes is completely unnecessary to achieve the goals of DMSI, as long as you are fully executing it, as far as I can tell. You can alter the perception of the affected much more safely, easily and effectively instead.
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