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(06-17-2018, 06:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-17-2018, 06:02 AM)subliminalsrcool Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon,

When you said

For those using MLS 5.5G, the best secondary ASRB appears to be 1 day on, 1 day off.

1. What is ASRB

ASRB stands for Audio to Silence Balancing Ratio. If the input is too demanding, it can cause the optimal processing and execution to degrade. So we add periodic silences of various lengths to compensate.

Primary ASRB is always included within the audio itself, so it's not something you have to worry about, except that you should always run your loops back to back, so you don't introduce a lesser secondary ASRB by doing so and again unbalance the optimizations.

Secondary ASRB is the number of days you use the program to the number of days you take as rest.

Quote:2. I am still using MLS 5.5G, can you elaborate on the above; maybe its because I don't know what ASRB is so I'm confused.

Thanks

Just start using it with a secondary ASRB of 1:1. That is... use it as instructed for one day, then take the next day off, and repeat.

Are you suggesting that is better to use MLS 1 day on 1 day off?
(06-18-2018, 05:03 AM)ianmarconi Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-17-2018, 06:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-17-2018, 06:02 AM)subliminalsrcool Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon,

When you said

For those using MLS 5.5G, the best secondary ASRB appears to be 1 day on, 1 day off.

1. What is ASRB

ASRB stands for Audio to Silence Balancing Ratio. If the input is too demanding, it can cause the optimal processing and execution to degrade. So we add periodic silences of various lengths to compensate.

Primary ASRB is always included within the audio itself, so it's not something you have to worry about, except that you should always run your loops back to back, so you don't introduce a lesser secondary ASRB by doing so and again unbalance the optimizations.

Secondary ASRB is the number of days you use the program to the number of days you take as rest.

Quote:2. I am still using MLS 5.5G, can you elaborate on the above; maybe its because I don't know what ASRB is so I'm confused.

Thanks

Just start using it with a secondary ASRB of 1:1. That is... use it as instructed for one day, then take the next day off, and repeat.

Are you suggesting that is better to use MLS 1 day on 1 day off?

No I am stating explicitly that that is how it will best achieve it's goals.
(06-18-2018, 04:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-17-2018, 08:06 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, any way you could make it so that DMSI is not affected by caffeine or alcohol? The reason I ask is because I like to drink Matcha Tea for the health benefits but it has caffeine in it. It's a shame because it's VERY good for you, but if it derails DMSI I don't drink it as much as I'd like.

As for alcohol, almost every date I've been on at least involves a glass of wine simply because that's "the thing" to do. It seems like shooting ourselves in the foot if DMSI is affected by the very things most people consume on dates (coffee or alcohol).

I am planning to try to achieve this, but it is as yet unclear just how possible it is to override physical chemistry with the power of the mind - at least, what power I can trigger users to execute. It may simply not be possible to do, and if it's not, then you'll have to learn to politely decline alcohol and use decaf tea.

But I am working on it.

The trouble with decaf tea is the health benefits are minimal compared to matcha tea. And if I stopped drinking wine the girl might fear I'm just trying to get her drunk while staying sober myself.

But, I appreciate your efforts. If it doesn't turn out to work then that's fine. I'll deal with it. Thanks Shannon.
(06-18-2018, 05:58 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 04:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-17-2018, 08:06 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, any way you could make it so that DMSI is not affected by caffeine or alcohol? The reason I ask is because I like to drink Matcha Tea for the health benefits but it has caffeine in it. It's a shame because it's VERY good for you, but if it derails DMSI I don't drink it as much as I'd like.

As for alcohol, almost every date I've been on at least involves a glass of wine simply because that's "the thing" to do. It seems like shooting ourselves in the foot if DMSI is affected by the very things most people consume on dates (coffee or alcohol).

I am planning to try to achieve this, but it is as yet unclear just how possible it is to override physical chemistry with the power of the mind - at least, what power I can trigger users to execute. It may simply not be possible to do, and if it's not, then you'll have to learn to politely decline alcohol and use decaf tea.

But I am working on it.

The trouble with decaf tea is the health benefits are minimal compared to matcha tea. And if I stopped drinking wine the girl might fear I'm just trying to get her drunk while staying sober myself.

But, I appreciate your efforts. If it doesn't turn out to work then that's fine. I'll deal with it. Thanks Shannon.

I just let them know up front... I don't drink, and that's a hard rule, and you're welcome to do as you please, but that's how I roll. That way they know it has nothing to do with you trying to get them drunk. If they drink, and how much they drink, is on them.

I don't touch women who have been drinking anyway, since these days, even fully sober she can just say you did XYZ and destroy your whole life, no matter how insane what she claims you did is. Add in alcohol and it just makes it easier for her. Fuck that.

I don't think it is going to be too difficult to override caffeine, but I am not sure yet what can be done realistically.
(06-18-2018, 06:24 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 05:58 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 04:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-17-2018, 08:06 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, any way you could make it so that DMSI is not affected by caffeine or alcohol? The reason I ask is because I like to drink Matcha Tea for the health benefits but it has caffeine in it. It's a shame because it's VERY good for you, but if it derails DMSI I don't drink it as much as I'd like.

As for alcohol, almost every date I've been on at least involves a glass of wine simply because that's "the thing" to do. It seems like shooting ourselves in the foot if DMSI is affected by the very things most people consume on dates (coffee or alcohol).

I am planning to try to achieve this, but it is as yet unclear just how possible it is to override physical chemistry with the power of the mind - at least, what power I can trigger users to execute. It may simply not be possible to do, and if it's not, then you'll have to learn to politely decline alcohol and use decaf tea.

But I am working on it.

The trouble with decaf tea is the health benefits are minimal compared to matcha tea. And if I stopped drinking wine the girl might fear I'm just trying to get her drunk while staying sober myself.

But, I appreciate your efforts. If it doesn't turn out to work then that's fine. I'll deal with it. Thanks Shannon.

I just let them know up front... I don't drink, and that's a hard rule, and you're welcome to do as you please, but that's how I roll. That way they know it has nothing to do with you trying to get them drunk. If they drink, and how much they drink, is on them.

I don't touch women who have been drinking anyway, since these days, even fully sober she can just say you did XYZ and destroy your whole life, no matter how insane what she claims you did is. Add in alcohol and it just makes it easier for her. **** that.

I don't think it is going to be too difficult to override caffeine, but I am not sure yet what can be done realistically.

You make a good point about the alcohol.

As for caffeine, how disruptive is it to dmsi? I mean, will the aura and effects of the program be lessened for as long as the caffeine is in your system or what? And then, how does dmsi compare to before the caffeine? So let's say you had 2 months of perfect dmsi use under your belt, then decide to have some caffeine. Then, when the caffeine is out of your system, is dmsi back to full strength or are we at square one now?
(06-18-2018, 06:31 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 06:24 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 05:58 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 04:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-17-2018, 08:06 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, any way you could make it so that DMSI is not affected by caffeine or alcohol? The reason I ask is because I like to drink Matcha Tea for the health benefits but it has caffeine in it. It's a shame because it's VERY good for you, but if it derails DMSI I don't drink it as much as I'd like.

As for alcohol, almost every date I've been on at least involves a glass of wine simply because that's "the thing" to do. It seems like shooting ourselves in the foot if DMSI is affected by the very things most people consume on dates (coffee or alcohol).

I am planning to try to achieve this, but it is as yet unclear just how possible it is to override physical chemistry with the power of the mind - at least, what power I can trigger users to execute. It may simply not be possible to do, and if it's not, then you'll have to learn to politely decline alcohol and use decaf tea.

But I am working on it.

The trouble with decaf tea is the health benefits are minimal compared to matcha tea. And if I stopped drinking wine the girl might fear I'm just trying to get her drunk while staying sober myself.

But, I appreciate your efforts. If it doesn't turn out to work then that's fine. I'll deal with it. Thanks Shannon.

I just let them know up front... I don't drink, and that's a hard rule, and you're welcome to do as you please, but that's how I roll. That way they know it has nothing to do with you trying to get them drunk. If they drink, and how much they drink, is on them.

I don't touch women who have been drinking anyway, since these days, even fully sober she can just say you did XYZ and destroy your whole life, no matter how insane what she claims you did is. Add in alcohol and it just makes it easier for her. **** that.

I don't think it is going to be too difficult to override caffeine, but I am not sure yet what can be done realistically.

You make a good point about the alcohol.

As for caffeine, how disruptive is it to dmsi? I mean, will the aura and effects of the program be lessened for as long as the caffeine is in your system or what? And then, how does dmsi compare to before the caffeine? So let's say you had 2 months of perfect dmsi use under your belt, then decide to have some caffeine. Then, when the caffeine is out of your system, is dmsi back to full strength or are we at square one now?

For most people the optimal dominant brainwave frequency is most likely going to be between 6.3 and 9 Hz as a result of the state shifting and autopiloting.

Caffeine drags it into the higher Beta ranges. 18 to 22 Hz, if memory serves. I reserve the right to be wrong here, because I haven't seen the specifics in a long time. But you can see it's definitely not going to put you where you want to be for optimal flow and execution.

Of course it depends on how much caffeine you ingest. I don't have data on how much is too much, etc. You may want to do some experiments for yourself.
(06-18-2018, 06:43 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 06:31 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 06:24 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 05:58 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 04:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I am planning to try to achieve this, but it is as yet unclear just how possible it is to override physical chemistry with the power of the mind - at least, what power I can trigger users to execute. It may simply not be possible to do, and if it's not, then you'll have to learn to politely decline alcohol and use decaf tea.

But I am working on it.

The trouble with decaf tea is the health benefits are minimal compared to matcha tea. And if I stopped drinking wine the girl might fear I'm just trying to get her drunk while staying sober myself.

But, I appreciate your efforts. If it doesn't turn out to work then that's fine. I'll deal with it. Thanks Shannon.

I just let them know up front... I don't drink, and that's a hard rule, and you're welcome to do as you please, but that's how I roll. That way they know it has nothing to do with you trying to get them drunk. If they drink, and how much they drink, is on them.

I don't touch women who have been drinking anyway, since these days, even fully sober she can just say you did XYZ and destroy your whole life, no matter how insane what she claims you did is. Add in alcohol and it just makes it easier for her. **** that.

I don't think it is going to be too difficult to override caffeine, but I am not sure yet what can be done realistically.

You make a good point about the alcohol.

As for caffeine, how disruptive is it to dmsi? I mean, will the aura and effects of the program be lessened for as long as the caffeine is in your system or what? And then, how does dmsi compare to before the caffeine? So let's say you had 2 months of perfect dmsi use under your belt, then decide to have some caffeine. Then, when the caffeine is out of your system, is dmsi back to full strength or are we at square one now?

For most people the optimal dominant brainwave frequency is most likely going to be between 6.3 and 9 Hz as a result of the state shifting and autopiloting.

Caffeine drags it into the higher Beta ranges. 18 to 22 Hz, if memory serves. I reserve the right to be wrong here, because I haven't seen the specifics in a long time. But you can see it's definitely not going to put you where you want to be for optimal flow and execution.

Of course it depends on how much caffeine you ingest. I don't have data on how much is too much, etc. You may want to do some experiments for yourself.

Fair enough. The thing about matcha is it calms the body while stimulating the mind. Monks use it for meditation and I know you've said meditation was bad for dmsi as well.

But ok, I'll test it out and see
Thanks Shannon.
Yeah I have switched over to decaf Tea, mostly. I have one normal Tea in the morning, but I am sure it won't be that hard to twitch over that one cup, aswell.

Shannon, when you can get around to it any chance of a Deep Gratitude and Appreciation focusfire sub?
(06-18-2018, 07:42 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I have switched over to decaf Tea, mostly. I have one normal Tea in the morning, but I am sure it won't be that hard to twitch over that one cup, aswell.

Shannon, when you can get around to it any chance of a Deep Gratitude and Appreciation focusfire sub?

When I can get a round tuit, sure. Wink
(06-18-2018, 09:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 07:42 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I have switched over to decaf Tea, mostly. I have one normal Tea in the morning, but I am sure it won't be that hard to twitch over that one cup, aswell.

Shannon, when you can get around to it any chance of a Deep Gratitude and Appreciation focusfire sub?

When I can get a round tuit, sure. Wink

Gratitude in DMSI would be nice...
(06-18-2018, 09:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 07:42 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I have switched over to decaf Tea, mostly. I have one normal Tea in the morning, but I am sure it won't be that hard to twitch over that one cup, aswell.

Shannon, when you can get around to it any chance of a Deep Gratitude and Appreciation focusfire sub?

When I can get a round tuit, sure. Wink

What's your postal address?

Tongue
(06-18-2018, 09:29 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 09:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 07:42 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I have switched over to decaf Tea, mostly. I have one normal Tea in the morning, but I am sure it won't be that hard to twitch over that one cup, aswell.

Shannon, when you can get around to it any chance of a Deep Gratitude and Appreciation focusfire sub?

When I can get a round tuit, sure. Wink

Gratitude in DMSI would be nice...

If it would be nice, you would already be appreciating it. It's in there.
(06-18-2018, 10:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 09:29 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 09:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-18-2018, 07:42 AM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I have switched over to decaf Tea, mostly. I have one normal Tea in the morning, but I am sure it won't be that hard to twitch over that one cup, aswell.

Shannon, when you can get around to it any chance of a Deep Gratitude and Appreciation focusfire sub?

When I can get a round tuit, sure. Wink

Gratitude in DMSI would be nice...

If it would be nice, you would already be appreciating it. It's in there.

Lol, this is fantastic!
(06-17-2018, 07:42 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-17-2018, 06:46 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-17-2018, 05:13 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-17-2018, 01:51 AM)hsindermann Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-16-2018, 12:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The ideal secondary ASRB value for MLS 5.5G appears to be 1:1, 1 day on, 1 day off.

Great, thanks! I guess with this I'll give MLS another try, as it's one of those subs I really want to get to work for me. When I tried it, it seemed to do fine for the first few weeks and then effects faded away quickly without ever resurfacing during the three months I've used it. I hope the secondary ASRB will do the trick here.

With an ASRB of 1:1, the program has to be pretty damned demanding. That may explain why you had that experience.

Quote:Two quick questions - just so I can plan ahead my sub use for the next months a little, as these relate to subs I would want to use:
1) Of the focus fire subs you've planned to build in the near future, is Ultra Motivation one of those?

I believe it was. Not sure, though. I have to finalize the list when I finish the custom still.

Quote:2) I know you hate that kinda question, but if possible could you give a rough estimate of when the updated Weight Loss sub would surface? Not talking exact date here, but just something like 'probably in X months'.

Thanks!

It looks like this.

I'm roughly expecting the custom to take me another 9 to 16 more days to complete and deliver. Then I'm going to take a few days off to rest, and then I'm going to start working on some focusfire subs. Each of those should take 3 days to build, and I'm hoping to release 3 of them, so another 9 days, plus 2 or 3 for unexpected stuff and days off. Then comes DMSI 3.3, which should take me 1-2 months. After that I'm looking to work on Weight Loss full time.

So a rough estimate of the maximum time frame would be 16 days + 3 days + 12 days + 2 months before I start working on it full time. So roughly 3 months.

That said... I am already working on it at a trickle. I think this one is going to be very interesting.

Hey @Shannon

A quick one, I recall you said in the past somewhere that there are yet so many many things to add to DMSI, that werent even included in the 3.3.... I think you said somewhere in the region of over 100 things are on the list.

Is it possible (if you deem it wise) to add as much as you can into 3.3, even if that means theres a delay on its release?

and for myself anything to help me execute ALOT more than just no fapping please lol

thanks alot in advance buddy!!

3.3 has a lot of things to add, but the things that are left to add are not all going in for 3.3. 3.3 is primarily aimed at adjusting the aura, improving the powering of the program, and there will be some additions designed to help overcome resistance.

3.4 is going to be where I try to finish adding all I can add at the time it's built, and polishing it all up. If 6G exists before 3.4, then 3.4 will be built on the 6G skeleton script. If not, I may choose to make a 4.0 based on that. Currently I would prefer to just retire the project after 3.4 and move on to other things.

However, any version of DMSI built after the 3.x-Final will not be a free upgrade. You will pay full price for it, and it will not be priced at what it currently goes for a copy anymore at that point. If it is successful enough to be worth extending beyond 3.4, the price will go up.

3.3 will not be on a deadline, and neither will anything else. We will fit what we can fit into 3.4 3.3 according to the rough schedule I have in mind for what to do at each release so I know what and how to move forward in the best way possible.

What you going to do if dmsi 3.4 final doesn't work for people?
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