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(05-31-2018, 11:24 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-31-2018, 10:06 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-31-2018, 08:23 AM)NoLimit Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-27-2018, 11:15 PM)Churchill Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon. I'm greatful for this wonderful tape called 'ASC'. Although I'm mad at what's happened lately.
At some point this tape got me so confident, I felt like I could see the matrix. I was awesome, eye contact awesome!, Body language was super dominant and flawless. My speech and tonality were on point. I even got the attractive sales girl practically begging for attention. But that only lasted for about 6 days. I wake up on day 7 thinking I'm still in God mode, until I realize I'm back to the way I was 6 days ago. Not like I'm completely lacking of confidence now, I'm just saying I am currently nothing close to the way I was in those six days. What the heck?. Why did ASC get me there only to take me back later? I'm angry at this. It's been about a week since then, still not back to that mode in spite of my 5hrs minimum a day commitment to listening.

PS. I've been listening to ASC months prior to that '6 days of awesomeness'.

If I keep listening, am I ever gonna get it back?, will it be permanent if I listen long enough?

I have also remarqued that Shannon's subs work really well the first week, and then result decrease quickly and then after some time you have sparks of result.

On DMSI first week had 2 new crazy lays and lot of IOI and after 3 months of use I did not even have half the attention of the first week, on a daily basis.

Also I took back MLS 1 week ago and during all the week my cognitive ability were greatly improved, and I also had some great discussion with people which made me rethink and see some subject with a new angle and I know it's a discussion that happened because of the sub.
But now I'm on week 2 and I already feel the decrease of the power.

Maybe the subconscious is just lazy as **** and is having a hard time maintening the execution of instructions.

Edit : Just saw Shannon's explanation, but my problem is even after 6 months of use for DMSI 3.1 for exemple I did not have better results than the 2 firsts weeks.

Is it possible that the sub consuis mind builds a resistance to the sub ? Hence it failing to work after 2 weeks ?

I have also noticed this phenomenon on many many occasions over the years here.

Those for whom the subs work and who remain here to post about it seem to have a good initial time and then reduce in effects.

I think Shannon addressed this some weeks/months ago that what seems to happen is that the subC sees the success and builds resistance to this, as it fears the change.

In all honesty im unsure so Shannon will clarify but if this is the case then it seems that there may be 3 types of resistance for Shannon to fight against:

A) The resistance that causes us to either NOT execute at all known as stonewalling.

B) The resistance that causes us to execute only some but not all of the sub.

C) The resistance that when you are executing the sub kicks in later and causes you to regress back to the initial state, as if the sub was never even bought.

Seems we have a long way to go yet guys.

I do know however that Shannon said somewhere in the past that there are like (im going to paraphrase) 100s and 100s of tech or script or something he still hasnt added to DMSI and wont even get round to adding it in 3.3.

I therefore suggest to all, that wouldnt it be better that we give Shannon the time to put in as much as he can and obviously wants to (since he needs to then track the data and assess the competence of said tech and sub) rather than pushing him to release the next version?

I always feel that there is that initial euphoria when we all wait for the latest DMSI in the hope to help us execute at the start only to be then dismayed, causing us to wait for the next version lol

So I say im happy to wait as long as it needs for Shannon to knock our socks off with 3.3 Blackhat

A lot of the problem you guys have is that you build up each release with unrealistic expectations and then when your expectations do not match reality, you feel disappointed and blame the sub. I was surprised to hear some of you say that 3.2 was "hyped" because I specifically made efforts to avoid hype with it, since you guys blamed me for this previously. It isn't my fault if I am trying not to build expectations, and you guys go all pie in the sky anyway. You have to approach each release from the point of view of, "I don't know what this will do, so I will approach it from a neutral standpoint and let it show me what it does."

You guys are so addicted to anything new and different that you work yourselves up into a tizzy regardless of what I say or do. Maybe with 3.3, I should just do everything in secrecy and just drop it on you out of nowhere.
(06-01-2018, 03:56 AM)Dmitry Wrote: [ -> ]What if change paradigm from “guys are resisting DMSI script” to “there is something in DMSI script that causing the resistance”?.
Btw, I had a strange dream tonight. This is first time when I had a dream about Shannon and his subs.
Plot in the dream: Shannon told me (I never saw Shannon in person but I felt that it is him) that he tries to bring alive his mother through DMSI, “thats why it is so complex that no one really understand””. I woke up with strange feelings.

What is the difference? If there is something in the script that they are resisting, then guys are resisting DMSI, aren't they? No difference.

Your dreams make me wonder about you, Dmitry.
(06-01-2018, 07:49 AM)Gotcha Wrote: [ -> ]Hey guys! I switched from 3.2B to A three weeks ago. Ran B from release. Haven’t noticed any external results on A as of yet. (Didn’t notice much on B either)

I am however having some pretty messed up dreams on A, compared to hardly any dreams on B. Nothing on B but now on A I’m feeling depressed and kind of worthless. Like a failure, mostly careerwize. (Not fishing for sympathy here, just painting a picture)

Also, I have been missing my ex gf something fierce for the last two weeks. I didn’t hardly think about her for months after the breakup, but now I do it quite often. Thinking about what I did wrong, how special she was and about getting back together with her and such (though deep down I know she wasn’t that special and that it would be a terrible idea to get back with her).

What do you guys think, is this part of the healing or is this me resisting A? Has any of this stuff happened to any of you?

This is a combination of H&C and resistance/avoidance behavior on the part of your subconscious. Getting back with her means you don't have to execute.
Shannon does DMSI create masculine polarity ? even though it is a unisex script ?
(06-01-2018, 08:26 PM)Broski Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon,

Currently on day 77 of no fap(longest streak yet) and I believe dmsi 3.2 has really helped me here. I have barely had any urges to masturbate during this time. What I have noticed however as of late is my mind is going into ultra fantasy mode with a particular girl i like and i get a similar dopamine rush pleasure sensation that one gets from porn or masturbation. Just thought I would bring that to your attention in case it was a possible resistance loophole that needs to be plugged up

That's direct reversal resistance of at least one part of the script. Not yet sure how we deal with reversal resistance.
(06-01-2018, 09:37 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]6 days into DMSI version A 7 loops strong wood in the mornings. This might be due to taking M stack for the gym. M stack is a natural supplement for body building.

On the 6th day i got angry and began masturbating. The IDGAF is kicking in strong. No external results yet.

Got angry and started masturbating. Got angry at what? DMSI telling you not to derail DMSI by masturbating? Sounds like it. IDGAF, in that case, sounds like a resistance mechanism; if you don't care about anything, then the script has nothing to use as an execution target. That's why so many guys are suddenly "losing interest in women/sex/etc" on 3.2.

This will be corrected on 3.3.
(06-02-2018, 02:38 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon
I have a question about ara and dra vs E2. I have neither "Anxiety" or "Depression" speaking in clinical terms, but I have plenty of depression and anxiety within me, more so than in the past. How would you compare running E2 for say 90 days, vs running ara for 45 and dra for another 45 in terms of making me a happier, depression and anxiety free individual? Ara/dra have newer tech which definitely appeals to me more, but I wonder if they're as effective at actually clearing out issues as E2, of they're sort of more of a bandaid, having 'relief' in the title.. I don't want relief I want total healing.

E2 is a better long term choice.
(06-02-2018, 12:19 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon does DMSI create masculine polarity ? even though it is a unisex script ?

DMSI uses a set of goals and the Optimus Engine. The goals all focus on becoming sexually irresistible to those people you want to have sex with. If your subconscious believes that you need to increase your masculinity to achieve that, it will do so in response to the Optimus Engine.

Unisex scripting has nothing to do with it.
(06-02-2018, 11:02 AM)Dmitry Wrote: [ -> ]It will be very cool to have EHPRA V3.0.

It will be very cool to be done developing 6G, which E3 will be built in, too.
Does the subconscious always know what the right thing to do to achieve the goals outlined in DMSI?

Hard question to phrase.
(06-02-2018, 12:32 PM)Leo1990 Wrote: [ -> ]Does the subconscious always know what the right thing to do to achieve the goals outlined in DMSI?

Hard question to phrase.

If the instruction set is correct, it should. Or at least, some level of it should.
I have experienced thinking about my ex girlfriend too recently and I too thought it might be resistance, but then again I did have fears that being in the relationship with her pushed me to face. All this stuff is very paradoxical to know what is the real reason.

For example I have been shifting between staying and going towards a degree, or leaving for a year working/travelling.

Obviously getting back with girlfriend can be seen as opposite to DMSI goals, even though DMSI could be healing/clearing issues I have with being in a relationship, as I had fears of bringing her back to my parents place because of past hurts from my Marriage that I had here that involved my parents.

Staying or going. I can imagine going away I would meet more people (Women) because I would be in staying in a cities and staying in hostels etc ....But then I don't know if I am "running" away? Even though I know I will grow.

Staying and going towards a degree would benefit me more long term I imagine and I would still be meeting women along this journey. I also can continue certain hobbies I am passionate about if I stayed. If I stayed I would have to continue living with my parents for at least another year though. Is this comfort zone? or is it because I am thinking smart and thinking of my future?

Things are more complicated when things are affecting your subconscious mind, as we don't know what is towards the goals or resistance, especially when everything seems to have a bit of both sides Blink
(06-02-2018, 12:47 PM)Fluffy Wrote: [ -> ]I have experienced thinking about my ex girlfriend too recently and I too thought it might be resistance, but then again I did have fears that being in the relationship with her pushed me to face. All this stuff is very paradoxical to know what is the real reason.

For example I have been shifting between staying and going towards a degree, or leaving for a year working/travelling.

Obviously getting back with girlfriend can be seen as opposite to DMSI goals, even though DMSI could be healing/clearing issues I have with being in a relationship, as I had fears of bringing her back to my parents place because of past hurts from my Marriage that I had here that involved my parents.

Staying or going. I can imagine going away I would meet more people (Women) because I would be in staying in a cities and staying in hostels etc ....But then I don't know if I am "running" away? Even though I know I will grow.

Staying and going towards a degree would benefit me more long term I imagine and I would still be meeting women along this journey. I also can continue certain hobbies I am passionate about if I stayed. If I stayed I would have to continue living with my parents for at least another year though. Is this comfort zone? or is it because I am thinking smart and thinking of my future?

Things are more complicated when things are affecting your subconscious mind, as we don't know what is towards the goals or resistance, especially when everything seems to have a bit of both sides Blink

By your own words, getting into a committed relationship is contrary to the goals of DMSI. Therefore, it cannot be DMSI pushing you to do that.

The rest... I don't know about.
(06-02-2018, 12:22 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-01-2018, 09:37 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]6 days into DMSI version A 7 loops strong wood in the mornings. This might be due to taking M stack for the gym. M stack is a natural supplement for body building.

On the 6th day i got angry and began masturbating. The IDGAF is kicking in strong. No external results yet.

Got angry and started masturbating. Got angry at what? DMSI telling you not to derail DMSI by masturbating? Sounds like it. IDGAF, in that case, sounds like a resistance mechanism; if you don't care about anything, then the script has nothing to use as an execution target. That's why so many guys are suddenly "losing interest in women/sex/etc" on 3.2.

This will be corrected on 3.3.

Yes! I feel like this is what has directly caused me to fail at executing DMSI. I'll gain some execution in the start of every version I've tested and it eventually gets me to just not care.

I'm excited for this one to be changed.
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