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(08-25-2018, 11:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2018, 10:00 AM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

I seem to have some sort of memory loss going on. I can pass three days and not recall which day I started the next loop on multiple ocassions. My guess its because of the h/c and reality bending. Wanted to give you this feedback as it is kinda funny but also slightly hard to keep yrack on the 7 days on 1 day off and such.

That could not result from the reality bending. It has nothing to do with the healing and clearing. It sounds like a creative attempt to disrupt your proper use of the program by the subconscious to me.

Something similar is happening to me. I set an alarm for a little over an hour before I actually have to wake up, and I listen to my loop while I sleep until my second alarm hits. I had no issues for months under DMSI until some time before I switched to US/LM. Now maybe once a week I simply forget why I set my alarm or simply ignore it and quickly return to sleep. This happened this morning, so I listened to it later in the day. Last week I had to take my 1 day break a day early because I forgot to run it early and then wasn't motivated to run it later in the day. Ohmy

I'm just giving you another thing to consider in case the keys do not do the trick. If this is some clever subconscious 'resistance' tactic, I'm definitely going to put some extra effort to get my loop in no matter what. Superman
I'd just like to STAY grounded in who I am all the time,be around family,freinds,ect and have a more IDGAF approach,as well, that feels all natural to me,sourcing even great parts of self, includng self love/self validation/forgiveness of self and others and related. does USLM have at the more of the latter in it Shannon? will these things be automatically included in many of the future programs,like LTU,BAMM,etc?
(08-25-2018, 05:25 PM)Hatman Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2018, 11:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2018, 10:00 AM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

I seem to have some sort of memory loss going on. I can pass three days and not recall which day I started the next loop on multiple ocassions. My guess its because of the h/c and reality bending. Wanted to give you this feedback as it is kinda funny but also slightly hard to keep yrack on the 7 days on 1 day off and such.

That could not result from the reality bending. It has nothing to do with the healing and clearing. It sounds like a creative attempt to disrupt your proper use of the program by the subconscious to me.

Something similar is happening to me. I set an alarm for a little over an hour before I actually have to wake up, and I listen to my loop while I sleep until my second alarm hits. I had no issues for months under DMSI until some time before I switched to US/LM. Now maybe once a week I simply forget why I set my alarm or simply ignore it and quickly return to sleep. This happened this morning, so I listened to it later in the day. Last week I had to take my 1 day break a day early because I forgot to run it early and then wasn't motivated to run it later in the day. Ohmy

I'm just giving you another thing to consider in case the keys do not do the trick. If this is some clever subconscious 'resistance' tactic, I'm definitely going to put some extra effort to get my loop in no matter what. Superman

USLM has Key #1 implemented, but not Key #2. Key #1 simply prevents the use of the safeties as an excuse to refuse to execute. So given that, it would seem this is a creative way to prevent execution after using that loophole Key #1 closes was shut down.
(08-25-2018, 05:36 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]I'd just like to STAY grounded in who I am all the time,be around family,freinds,ect and have a more IDGAF approach,as well, that feels all natural to me,sourcing even great parts of self, includng self love/self validation/forgiveness of self and others and related. does USLM have at the more of the latter in it Shannon? will these things be automatically included in many of the future programs,like LTU,BAMM,etc?

Grounding of awareness, and IDGAF isn't part of the skeleton script. It prevents brain fog as long as you don't reverse resist.

Self love, validation, forgiveness are part of the skeleton script, but only are turned on where they will enhance the achievement of the goal of the program.

IIRC those were turned off for UMOP B. There may be self validation active, but I don't remember right now. Whether they are on or off, they will be turned on in A side of UMOP when I build it.
(08-25-2018, 05:01 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]First point: You guys are misunderstanding how DMSI works. All subliminals work this way. All hypnosis is self hypnosis for the same reason: subliminals are a set of instructions, and nothing more. You either choose to execute, or you choose not to. At no time do you ever "relinquish control" to this program. That's about like seeing a grocery list on the table and thinking you have to "give it control" in order to go buy groceries. It's so far off that it's ridiculous. You never relinquish control, and I have stated many times that I will never create a program that takes away your control of yourself.

Key #2 will help with this. The fear removal module will help a lot. I'm also working on some special modules right now that should help further, if the Fear Remover doesn't do it all.

But I'd like to point out that the fear of death being equated with executing DMSI's instructions is almost certainly the subconscious self resisting changing what it believes to be true, because it has built it's entire world view on those things. If they change or are not true, then the perception of everything must be re-evaluated. In other words, it fears this change as a death because this change would mean that not just one thing changes, but EVERYTHING changes. The whole of the self would have to change in some cases, as well as all of how the outside world was perceived.

Taking CatMan as an example, he states again and again, unchangingly that he cannot believe the program will ever work. That it is "too far outside his reality". What he is saying is, "This reality I have created from all of my life experiences and the resulting beliefs I have formed would have to change too drastically for me to feel safe, so I will not allow that to happen." To preserve his reality asit is, he even goes so far as to report results and then in a day or a week, reverse what he said before, and prevent himself from being able to see it or remember it. It conflicted with his reality and it frightened that part of him so much that it was rejected and replaced with what was already there, which was comfortable. Instead of making the incremental improvements and growth steps that would have resulted in him achieving the design goals as others have done, his subconscious has actively sought to un-do all progress and then erase it, deny it, doubt it, etc. in order to maintain the status quo he started with. (Did you know you were doing that, CM?) Thus we have his "I've been using this for 2 years and seen nothing" posts.

There are ways past even this, and with 3.3, I will be implementing several new ideas which I believe will at least make good progress.

I had a question regarding this Shannon since you mentioned it (Great analogy btw). Could also part of the reason be that we so Identify with these certain beliefs that we see it as literally killing us. As in we know if we remove these things we will have to change almost everything about our self and how we perceive things, but since we Identify with them so heavily that we see it as committing suicide (for lack of a better word). Like we perceive these beliefs to be synonymous with "ourselves"?

Also, as a side thing because I've been wanting to ask this for a while. Have you ever planned to make a Psychic type sub later on in the 6G line? I just ask because out of all the things, that is probably one of the ones I would be most interested in if it were eventually made. Always found that subject or any kind of so called "paranormal" situations interesting. I do remember you saying that there was a level of the subconscious that doesn't even perceive time at all. So would you guess that people ,who might legitimately call stuff that happening at the right time, might just being accessing that part of the subconscious for whatever reason?
@Shannon

I had an epiphany today.

In UM/OP is there an:

1) anti-self sabotage module?

2) ant self chastisement module for blaming ourselves and feeling we dont deserve good?


thanks Shannon
(08-25-2018, 07:02 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2018, 05:01 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-24-2018, 06:40 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-24-2018, 07:06 AM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ][quote='K-Train' pid='204264' dateline='1535085869']
[quote='kingpill' pid='204249' dateline='1535072674']

-SNIP

Most people are fearful of death and so at the end of their lives, the fear consumes them, hence making them weak. Not me. I wanna look death in the eye and laugh as I die. I wanna f*** lady death.

Executed like crazy right after this realization.

I've noticed the EXACT same thing. V3.2 generates/generated a lot of fear in me. My anxiety would ratchet up. I found that most of the fear in my life centered around death. I would sometimes visualizes myself holding lady death's hand and looking her in the eyes and saying "I'm not afraid of you". By releasing this fear of death I also found it easier to execute DMSI.

Quote:I believe the reason for this is because part of the subconscious for some people equates losing/relinquishing control to DMSI as dying. Almost EVERY person is wired to avoid death and survive but I believe that people who are "resistant" have this subconscious "survival program" running in overdrive. The reality is that death is unavoidable and a necessary step that all of us will eventually take. When the subconscious realizes this and begins treating death as something natural it relaxes so to speak and this is when DMSI is able to work its magic because the instructions are no longer seen as a threat.

I reserve the right for my opinion to be totally wrong!


Shannon in regards to this post from Kingpill's journal, does Key #1 or Key #2 address the subconscious identifying the relinquishing of control/compliance to DMSI's instrunctions with death? As someone who has had issues with "being told what to do" I can most certainly attest to sometimes equating "loss of control" with dying. My results with DMSI improved drastically when this was overcome and I believe it may hold an important key to improving the results for others.

Also sidebar question: Do you think that US/LM is having a positive benefit on your progress with DMSI? If yes could you please continue running it for the next year so we get more kickass subs? Thanks!

*This was a copy and paste from Kingpill's journal. This post was supposed to be here originally but I posted it in the wrong journal. Consider this a request for the return of the 'delete post' button.

First point: You guys are misunderstanding how DMSI works. All subliminals work this way. All hypnosis is self hypnosis for the same reason: subliminals are a set of instructions, and nothing more. You either choose to execute, or you choose not to. At no time do you ever "relinquish control" to this program. That's about like seeing a grocery list on the table and thinking you have to "give it control" in order to go buy groceries. It's so far off that it's ridiculous. You never relinquish control, and I have stated many times that I will never create a program that takes away your control of yourself.

Key #2 will help with this. The fear removal module will help a lot. I'm also working on some special modules right now that should help further, if the Fear Remover doesn't do it all.

But I'd like to point out that the fear of death being equated with executing DMSI's instructions is almost certainly the subconscious self resisting changing what it believes to be true, because it has built it's entire world view on those things. If they change or are not true, then the perception of everything must be re-evaluated. In other words, it fears this change as a death because this change would mean that not just one thing changes, but EVERYTHING changes. The whole of the self would have to change in some cases, as well as all of how the outside world was perceived.

Taking CatMan as an example, he states again and again, unchangingly that he cannot believe the program will ever work. That it is "too far outside his reality". What he is saying is, "This reality I have created from all of my life experiences and the resulting beliefs I have formed would have to change too drastically for me to feel safe, so I will not allow that to happen." To preserve his reality asit is, he even goes so far as to report results and then in a day or a week, reverse what he said before, and prevent himself from being able to see it or remember it. It conflicted with his reality and it frightened that part of him so much that it was rejected and replaced with what was already there, which was comfortable. Instead of making the incremental improvements and growth steps that would have resulted in him achieving the design goals as others have done, his subconscious has actively sought to un-do all progress and then erase it, deny it, doubt it, etc. in order to maintain the status quo he started with. (Did you know you were doing that, CM?) Thus we have his "I've been using this for 2 years and seen nothing" posts.

There are ways past even this, and with 3.3, I will be implementing several new ideas which I believe will at least make good progress.

Quote:Also sidebar question: Do you think that US/LM is having a positive benefit on your progress with DMSI? If yes could you please continue running it for the next year so we get more kickass subs? Thanks!

USLM is having a positive effect on all areas of my life, but life doesn't revolve around one subliminal. I've been running MIR for a while because my girlfriend was sick. I need to run MHS to help my lungs. I need to test Beast on myself, not just others. And other subs may come along that I want to run, also.

You will get more kickass subs regardless, I assure you. Smile

If @Shannon designs BAMM 3.0 to achieve the goal in 4-8 years then that is still leaps and bounds faster than the average time it takes for many to become a multi-millionaire. I know people that own businesses and are struggling. Imagine if they had a tool like BAMM 3.0. I think we are very fortunate such a tool exists. Many would kill for something like BAMM 3.0
Like Shannon said, BAMM 2.0 couldn’t get past a lot of the deep fears I have. These fears were very deep and only surfaced after sometime running the program.

yeah in MY case when using BAMM, MY Life,kicked into REVERSE mode,I went from prospering fairly decently I wouldn say fantastically, but decently, to going backwards and THEN my life fell apart,I almost wound up on the streets and penniless. it was very scary indeed. I can only chalk it up to some serious resistance,that was NOT resolved at that time,to say da least. once I stopped utlizing BAMM ,MY Life started to "come back together", so to speak.
I AM totally willing to give it more than another go,once again,for shure. with all the new technology,all the new bells & whistles,kitchen sinks in it & all the other good shit that sin it,that in itself for any program is encouraging as hell!! For shure, Plus I've paid for the muther when it FIRST first came out, it was on sale for just ONLY a very few days and I got it right in ,between that window of Opp, before it went up in price! Free Upgrades,are a helluva encouragement,too!! Understatements !!
IM shure BAMM 3.0 will rock da house and our lives with positive change. Might I suggest adding in Positive Thinking,Positive Attitude/USLM,Money Magnet,entire scripts,adjusted to the spec's of the program of course,ect. IM shure Shannon has already thot these things and more by now.. or will when the time comes... I'M glad this subject came up again, keeps the Life force energy of Bamm alive & Kickin'! ha! Have a Most groovy evening Yawl!! yes Groovy!!
what? I can't be an Old soul,Old Hippie,,healer,redneck,world traveled,edu-ma-cated Man from da stix of Carolina,who says "groovy' every now'un'neen? Ha!!
(08-25-2018, 05:57 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2018, 05:01 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]First point: You guys are misunderstanding how DMSI works. All subliminals work this way. All hypnosis is self hypnosis for the same reason: subliminals are a set of instructions, and nothing more. You either choose to execute, or you choose not to. At no time do you ever "relinquish control" to this program. That's about like seeing a grocery list on the table and thinking you have to "give it control" in order to go buy groceries. It's so far off that it's ridiculous. You never relinquish control, and I have stated many times that I will never create a program that takes away your control of yourself.

Key #2 will help with this. The fear removal module will help a lot. I'm also working on some special modules right now that should help further, if the Fear Remover doesn't do it all.

But I'd like to point out that the fear of death being equated with executing DMSI's instructions is almost certainly the subconscious self resisting changing what it believes to be true, because it has built it's entire world view on those things. If they change or are not true, then the perception of everything must be re-evaluated. In other words, it fears this change as a death because this change would mean that not just one thing changes, but EVERYTHING changes. The whole of the self would have to change in some cases, as well as all of how the outside world was perceived.

Taking CatMan as an example, he states again and again, unchangingly that he cannot believe the program will ever work. That it is "too far outside his reality". What he is saying is, "This reality I have created from all of my life experiences and the resulting beliefs I have formed would have to change too drastically for me to feel safe, so I will not allow that to happen." To preserve his reality asit is, he even goes so far as to report results and then in a day or a week, reverse what he said before, and prevent himself from being able to see it or remember it. It conflicted with his reality and it frightened that part of him so much that it was rejected and replaced with what was already there, which was comfortable. Instead of making the incremental improvements and growth steps that would have resulted in him achieving the design goals as others have done, his subconscious has actively sought to un-do all progress and then erase it, deny it, doubt it, etc. in order to maintain the status quo he started with. (Did you know you were doing that, CM?) Thus we have his "I've been using this for 2 years and seen nothing" posts.

There are ways past even this, and with 3.3, I will be implementing several new ideas which I believe will at least make good progress.

I had a question regarding this Shannon since you mentioned it (Great analogy btw). Could also part of the reason be that we so Identify with these certain beliefs that we see it as literally killing us. As in we know if we remove these things we will have to change almost everything about our self and how we perceive things, but since we Identify with them so heavily that we see it as committing suicide (for lack of a better word). Like we perceive these beliefs to be synonymous with "ourselves"?

The concept of "self" is basically the conglomeration of what your awareness has experienced and what you felt, thought and reacted with as a result, on top of the natural "starting point" that is your physical body's strengths and weaknesses and the things it allows and predisposes for you emotionally and intellectually, as you have come to understand them.

The "unknown" is scary. Universally scary. Some people enjoy the sensation of fear because it produces a rush for them, through adrenaline or endorphins or whatever, but that rush is generated by fear.

Making a drastic change, which in some cases may be required to achieve a specific major goal, generates a reaction according to how many steps away from "normal" that change and result is for that person. Too many steps in between, and it becomes difficult for the person to follow from where they are (Point A) to where the goal is (Point Z). The Point Z is "alien" and the amount of difference creates the "unknown" in how A becomes Z, thus creating this fear, because Points B through Y cannot be seen, or understood. If the change is great enough, then Point A is seen as "completely me" and Point Z is seen as "completely not me". Point Z is rejected because it is "not me" and the contrast is perceived to be so great that "me" would be lost in the change, thus the association with "death".

The truth is, this is just limited thinking and perception. You are the same person you were at age 10, but very much changed now, and you did not perceive becoming the "you now" as "dying" at 10. Likewise, looking back, you don't see the change from "you now" back to "10 year old you" as "death". You see it as a flow of change.

There is no literal death in all this, it is only transformation from one state of being to another, but "you" are always there, alive and "you".

Quote:Also, as a side thing because I've been wanting to ask this for a while. Have you ever planned to make a Psychic type sub later on in the 6G line? I just ask because out of all the things, that is probably one of the ones I would be most interested in if it were eventually made. Always found that subject or any kind of so called "paranormal" situations interesting. I do remember you saying that there was a level of the subconscious that doesn't even perceive time at all. So would you guess that people ,who might legitimately call stuff that happening at the right time, might just being accessing that part of the subconscious for whatever reason?

I may create such a subliminal, it is certainly a possibility.

What most call "psychic ability" is always present in all of us. The degree to which we can access it at a conscious or subconscious level and experience it in the body is various from person to person for a lot of different reasons, usually dealing heavily with the specific configuration of your body, which may completely prevent access or completely flow into it or anything in between, as well as your belief system (one that encourages it will do so, and one that rejects it will tend to stifle it) and how much you use it.
(08-25-2018, 06:03 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

I had an epiphany today.

In UM/OP is there an:

1) anti-self sabotage module?

Yes. Many of them. In Side B they are turned off.

Quote:2) ant self chastisement module for blaming ourselves and feeling we dont deserve good?

Yes. But again, in B side, it is turned off.

My approach to "H&C" in B side was aimed at preventing people from getting caught up on the script itself. It also uses methods that enhance the desire to execute. For some of you, there is still resistance, and apparently increased resistance, apparently because of the power of the program. This means that simply getting caught up in the scripting itself isn't the reason you resist, as I suspected, and it also enhances the execution of those who do execute.

So I guess I'll be making an A side of UMOP soon.
(08-25-2018, 06:33 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2018, 07:02 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2018, 05:01 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-24-2018, 06:40 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-24-2018, 07:06 AM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ][quote='K-Train' pid='204264' dateline='1535085869']
[quote='kingpill' pid='204249' dateline='1535072674']

-SNIP

Most people are fearful of death and so at the end of their lives, the fear consumes them, hence making them weak. Not me. I wanna look death in the eye and laugh as I die. I wanna f*** lady death.

Executed like crazy right after this realization.

I've noticed the EXACT same thing. V3.2 generates/generated a lot of fear in me. My anxiety would ratchet up. I found that most of the fear in my life centered around death. I would sometimes visualizes myself holding lady death's hand and looking her in the eyes and saying "I'm not afraid of you". By releasing this fear of death I also found it easier to execute DMSI.

Quote:I believe the reason for this is because part of the subconscious for some people equates losing/relinquishing control to DMSI as dying. Almost EVERY person is wired to avoid death and survive but I believe that people who are "resistant" have this subconscious "survival program" running in overdrive. The reality is that death is unavoidable and a necessary step that all of us will eventually take. When the subconscious realizes this and begins treating death as something natural it relaxes so to speak and this is when DMSI is able to work its magic because the instructions are no longer seen as a threat.

I reserve the right for my opinion to be totally wrong!


Shannon in regards to this post from Kingpill's journal, does Key #1 or Key #2 address the subconscious identifying the relinquishing of control/compliance to DMSI's instrunctions with death? As someone who has had issues with "being told what to do" I can most certainly attest to sometimes equating "loss of control" with dying. My results with DMSI improved drastically when this was overcome and I believe it may hold an important key to improving the results for others.

Also sidebar question: Do you think that US/LM is having a positive benefit on your progress with DMSI? If yes could you please continue running it for the next year so we get more kickass subs? Thanks!

*This was a copy and paste from Kingpill's journal. This post was supposed to be here originally but I posted it in the wrong journal. Consider this a request for the return of the 'delete post' button.

First point: You guys are misunderstanding how DMSI works. All subliminals work this way. All hypnosis is self hypnosis for the same reason: subliminals are a set of instructions, and nothing more. You either choose to execute, or you choose not to. At no time do you ever "relinquish control" to this program. That's about like seeing a grocery list on the table and thinking you have to "give it control" in order to go buy groceries. It's so far off that it's ridiculous. You never relinquish control, and I have stated many times that I will never create a program that takes away your control of yourself.

Key #2 will help with this. The fear removal module will help a lot. I'm also working on some special modules right now that should help further, if the Fear Remover doesn't do it all.

But I'd like to point out that the fear of death being equated with executing DMSI's instructions is almost certainly the subconscious self resisting changing what it believes to be true, because it has built it's entire world view on those things. If they change or are not true, then the perception of everything must be re-evaluated. In other words, it fears this change as a death because this change would mean that not just one thing changes, but EVERYTHING changes. The whole of the self would have to change in some cases, as well as all of how the outside world was perceived.

Taking CatMan as an example, he states again and again, unchangingly that he cannot believe the program will ever work. That it is "too far outside his reality". What he is saying is, "This reality I have created from all of my life experiences and the resulting beliefs I have formed would have to change too drastically for me to feel safe, so I will not allow that to happen." To preserve his reality asit is, he even goes so far as to report results and then in a day or a week, reverse what he said before, and prevent himself from being able to see it or remember it. It conflicted with his reality and it frightened that part of him so much that it was rejected and replaced with what was already there, which was comfortable. Instead of making the incremental improvements and growth steps that would have resulted in him achieving the design goals as others have done, his subconscious has actively sought to un-do all progress and then erase it, deny it, doubt it, etc. in order to maintain the status quo he started with. (Did you know you were doing that, CM?) Thus we have his "I've been using this for 2 years and seen nothing" posts.

There are ways past even this, and with 3.3, I will be implementing several new ideas which I believe will at least make good progress.

Quote:Also sidebar question: Do you think that US/LM is having a positive benefit on your progress with DMSI? If yes could you please continue running it for the next year so we get more kickass subs? Thanks!

USLM is having a positive effect on all areas of my life, but life doesn't revolve around one subliminal. I've been running MIR for a while because my girlfriend was sick. I need to run MHS to help my lungs. I need to test Beast on myself, not just others. And other subs may come along that I want to run, also.

You will get more kickass subs regardless, I assure you. Smile

If @Shannon designs BAMM 3.0 to achieve the goal in 4-8 years then that is still leaps and bounds faster than the average time it takes for many to become a multi-millionaire. I know people that own businesses and are struggling. Imagine if they had a tool like BAMM 3.0. I think we are very fortunate such a tool exists. Many would kill for something like BAMM 3.0
Like Shannon said, BAMM 2.0 couldn’t get past a lot of the deep fears I have. These fears were very deep and only surfaced after sometime running the program.

yeah in MY case when using BAMM, MY Life,kicked into REVERSE mode,I went from prospering fairly decently I wouldn say fantastically, but decently, to going backwards and THEN my life fell apart,I almost wound up on the streets and penniless. it was very scary indeed. I can only chalk it up to some serious resistance,that was NOT resolved at that time,to say da least. once I stopped utlizing BAMM ,MY Life started to "come back together", so to speak.
I AM totally willing to give it more than another go,once again,for shure. with all the new technology,all the new bells & whistles,kitchen sinks in it & all the other good shit that sin it,that in itself for any program is encouraging as hell!! For shure, Plus I've paid for the muther when it FIRST first came out, it was on sale for just ONLY a very few days and I got it right in ,between that window of Opp, before it went up in price! Free Upgrades,are a helluva encouragement,too!! Understatements !!
IM shure BAMM 3.0 will rock da house and our lives with positive change. Might I suggest adding in Positive Thinking,Positive Attitude/USLM,Money Magnet,entire scripts,adjusted to the spec's of the program of course,ect. IM shure Shannon has already thot these things and more by now.. or will when the time comes... I'M glad this subject came up again, keeps the Life force energy of Bamm alive & Kickin'! ha! Have a Most groovy evening Yawl!! yes Groovy!!
what? I can't be an Old soul,Old Hippie,,healer,redneck,world traveled,edu-ma-cated Man from da stix of Carolina,who says "groovy' every now'un'neen? Ha!!

Did you realize that everything falling apart was a reversal resistance response at the time, Keith? I wish I had known about and understood that phenomenon sooner than I did. I don't think any of us connected the dots at that time.

BAMM 3.0 is going to have a lot different approach. I am confident that it will be able to achieve its goals.
Hi Shannon, i have stopped dmsi now like you suggested to do until 3.3 is released and see if a bloom happens.

In a post above you mentioned some get results, some have fears triggered and get some small results and others get lots of fear.

Can i still get fear without actually knowing its happening, so for me not seeing any results could i of had lots of fear deep down for some reason that fails to allow me to execute but also for it not to surface so i dont know that its there if that makes sense?

I see a lot with dreams and having up and down days, i never experienced any of those so thats why asking the question.
(08-25-2018, 05:25 PM)Hatman Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2018, 11:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2018, 10:00 AM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

I seem to have some sort of memory loss going on. I can pass three days and not recall which day I started the next loop on multiple ocassions. My guess its because of the h/c and reality bending. Wanted to give you this feedback as it is kinda funny but also slightly hard to keep yrack on the 7 days on 1 day off and such.

That could not result from the reality bending. It has nothing to do with the healing and clearing. It sounds like a creative attempt to disrupt your proper use of the program by the subconscious to me.

Something similar is happening to me. I set an alarm for a little over an hour before I actually have to wake up, and I listen to my loop while I sleep until my second alarm hits. I had no issues for months under DMSI until some time before I switched to US/LM. Now maybe once a week I simply forget why I set my alarm or simply ignore it and quickly return to sleep. This happened this morning, so I listened to it later in the day. Last week I had to take my 1 day break a day early because I forgot to run it early and then wasn't motivated to run it later in the day. Ohmy

I'm just giving you another thing to consider in case the keys do not do the trick. If this is some clever subconscious 'resistance' tactic, I'm definitely going to put some extra effort to get my loop in no matter what. Superman

Getting my loops in isnt really the problem. I have difficulties to trace back the days. Lets say im on day 4 and started 4 days ago ( for example, starting monday, and 4 days passed ) on day 4 I start to think "was my first day monday? Was it Tuesday?" That kinda thing. Even if Im writing it down, there are days that I seem to care 0 at all to note it down. Akong with doubt, my mind seems to go into spiral. The ignoring part you wrote is something similar to being trance like in autopilot.
Shannon I posted here at

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s...s-Hulk-Out-

Will you be building a sub to increase muscle mass anytime soon ?. I do not know how feasible this is with 5.5 soon to be 6G. Having looked at other subliminal companies they are offering subs to help build muscle however whether they actually work or not is another matter.
(08-26-2018, 05:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2018, 06:33 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2018, 07:02 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2018, 05:01 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-24-2018, 06:40 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]I've noticed the EXACT same thing. V3.2 generates/generated a lot of fear in me. My anxiety would ratchet up. I found that most of the fear in my life centered around death. I would sometimes visualizes myself holding lady death's hand and looking her in the eyes and saying "I'm not afraid of you". By releasing this fear of death I also found it easier to execute DMSI.



Shannon in regards to this post from Kingpill's journal, does Key #1 or Key #2 address the subconscious identifying the relinquishing of control/compliance to DMSI's instrunctions with death? As someone who has had issues with "being told what to do" I can most certainly attest to sometimes equating "loss of control" with dying. My results with DMSI improved drastically when this was overcome and I believe it may hold an important key to improving the results for others.

Also sidebar question: Do you think that US/LM is having a positive benefit on your progress with DMSI? If yes could you please continue running it for the next year so we get more kickass subs? Thanks!

*This was a copy and paste from Kingpill's journal. This post was supposed to be here originally but I posted it in the wrong journal. Consider this a request for the return of the 'delete post' button.

First point: You guys are misunderstanding how DMSI works. All subliminals work this way. All hypnosis is self hypnosis for the same reason: subliminals are a set of instructions, and nothing more. You either choose to execute, or you choose not to. At no time do you ever "relinquish control" to this program. That's about like seeing a grocery list on the table and thinking you have to "give it control" in order to go buy groceries. It's so far off that it's ridiculous. You never relinquish control, and I have stated many times that I will never create a program that takes away your control of yourself.

Key #2 will help with this. The fear removal module will help a lot. I'm also working on some special modules right now that should help further, if the Fear Remover doesn't do it all.

But I'd like to point out that the fear of death being equated with executing DMSI's instructions is almost certainly the subconscious self resisting changing what it believes to be true, because it has built it's entire world view on those things. If they change or are not true, then the perception of everything must be re-evaluated. In other words, it fears this change as a death because this change would mean that not just one thing changes, but EVERYTHING changes. The whole of the self would have to change in some cases, as well as all of how the outside world was perceived.

Taking CatMan as an example, he states again and again, unchangingly that he cannot believe the program will ever work. That it is "too far outside his reality". What he is saying is, "This reality I have created from all of my life experiences and the resulting beliefs I have formed would have to change too drastically for me to feel safe, so I will not allow that to happen." To preserve his reality asit is, he even goes so far as to report results and then in a day or a week, reverse what he said before, and prevent himself from being able to see it or remember it. It conflicted with his reality and it frightened that part of him so much that it was rejected and replaced with what was already there, which was comfortable. Instead of making the incremental improvements and growth steps that would have resulted in him achieving the design goals as others have done, his subconscious has actively sought to un-do all progress and then erase it, deny it, doubt it, etc. in order to maintain the status quo he started with. (Did you know you were doing that, CM?) Thus we have his "I've been using this for 2 years and seen nothing" posts.

There are ways past even this, and with 3.3, I will be implementing several new ideas which I believe will at least make good progress.

Quote:Also sidebar question: Do you think that US/LM is having a positive benefit on your progress with DMSI? If yes could you please continue running it for the next year so we get more kickass subs? Thanks!

USLM is having a positive effect on all areas of my life, but life doesn't revolve around one subliminal. I've been running MIR for a while because my girlfriend was sick. I need to run MHS to help my lungs. I need to test Beast on myself, not just others. And other subs may come along that I want to run, also.

You will get more kickass subs regardless, I assure you. Smile

If @Shannon designs BAMM 3.0 to achieve the goal in 4-8 years then that is still leaps and bounds faster than the average time it takes for many to become a multi-millionaire. I know people that own businesses and are struggling. Imagine if they had a tool like BAMM 3.0. I think we are very fortunate such a tool exists. Many would kill for something like BAMM 3.0
Like Shannon said, BAMM 2.0 couldn’t get past a lot of the deep fears I have. These fears were very deep and only surfaced after sometime running the program.

yeah in MY case when using BAMM, MY Life,kicked into REVERSE mode,I went from prospering fairly decently I wouldn say fantastically, but decently, to going backwards and THEN my life fell apart,I almost wound up on the streets and penniless. it was very scary indeed. I can only chalk it up to some serious resistance,that was NOT resolved at that time,to say da least. once I stopped utlizing BAMM ,MY Life started to "come back together", so to speak.
I AM totally willing to give it more than another go,once again,for shure. with all the new technology,all the new bells & whistles,kitchen sinks in it & all the other good shit that sin it,that in itself for any program is encouraging as hell!! For shure, Plus I've paid for the muther when it FIRST first came out, it was on sale for just ONLY a very few days and I got it right in ,between that window of Opp, before it went up in price! Free Upgrades,are a helluva encouragement,too!! Understatements !!
IM shure BAMM 3.0 will rock da house and our lives with positive change. Might I suggest adding in Positive Thinking,Positive Attitude/USLM,Money Magnet,entire scripts,adjusted to the spec's of the program of course,ect. IM shure Shannon has already thot these things and more by now.. or will when the time comes... I'M glad this subject came up again, keeps the Life force energy of Bamm alive & Kickin'! ha! Have a Most groovy evening Yawl!! yes Groovy!!
what? I can't be an Old soul,Old Hippie,,healer,redneck,world traveled,edu-ma-cated Man from da stix of Carolina,who says "groovy' every now'un'neen? Ha!!

Did you realize that everything falling apart was a reversal resistance response at the time, Keith? I wish I had known about and understood that phenomenon sooner than I did. I don't think any of us connected the dots at that time.

BAMM 3.0 is going to have a lot different approach. I am confident that it will be able to achieve its goals.

@Shannon It didn’t dawn on me that it was reverse resistance at the time either.

With 6G tech and your greater understanding of fear and resistance,BAMM 3.0 will be night and day compared 2.0.

I’m looking forward to see what you come up with!
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