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(02-06-2019, 11:56 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2019, 11:47 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]I had thought the opposite - if we could consciously choose to execute you wouldn’t have had to have worked so hard. I figured To a large extent we just can’t because of unconscious motives - which we can’t just choose to override.

We can choose to consciously override the subconscious choice of how to respond. Every time you consciously react to that resistance by doing something to overcome it, that's exactly what you're doing. We just don't have a really good understanding of how to get these two(?) parts of your awareness to agree on the same goal and go after it.

I'm working on it. But if you couldn't choose to override the subconscious reaction, you would never change.

Epic explanation, thank you
(02-06-2019, 11:52 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]Welcome to the club broski - I’m considering getting it for my partner as well now after the best day I’ve had In a very long time

Thanks my man! Starting my day 2 loops now, but think I started experiencing some TID starting a week ago because I as well have been feeling better and more optimistic lately in general!
(02-06-2019, 11:53 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2019, 11:27 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2019, 05:34 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2019, 01:42 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,

Why didn't you include the high effect in Uslm into DMSI?

As I have said before, LTU is built with USLM4 in it. It has all of everything I planned to put in it, and to build the daughter programs, we simply turn off everything else that isn't the title in question or the skeleton script. So LTU4 will "give birth" to USLM4, E3, UMOP3, etc.

Quote:At the beginning of the new Version of DMSI I got really interesting results but soon after within a week I became numb to life. Literally cant get excited or feeling the joy of life.

Anyways I hope it gets better from now on

Tell me about the results you got and how the transition happened, please.


I think you mis read it Shannon, I said DMSI not LTU in the first part.

Anyways to answer your question here it is.

When I knew DMSI 3.3.1 is coming out, I decided to take a break from the 3.3. After a week and half, you announced that DMSI is 3.3.1 is coming out that day, in which I decided to download it and use it asap when it comes out. As soon as I made that decision women started to give me interest. When I started the new Version 3.3.1 I did one loop only because I simply couldn't run 8. During my very first loop I felt incredible sensation in my chest area. Same as I felt in 3.2 B, but enhanced. I still feel this sensations even with 8 loops.

After I completed the loop in the first day women who did not message me in a long time started to message me out of no where. (more than 3 women) I know these women are DTF. A girl who loves me so much became very sexual and gives me BJ whenever we meet.

I did one loop for 3 days when it came out then I got excited and started doing 8 loops of US during the night. Here the results disappeared. I also became tired and exhausted during the day (no depression)

I also became simply not interested in life as a whole like things that should be exciting and enjoyable are just meh to me. More like a numb feeling.

Now I am not sure what is what. Was my results at first because of a bloom of previous version? I just think the timing was very accurate to consider it as bloom from previous version.

I think what you're dealing with is that one loop was not demanding enough to get to the root of the problem holding you back, limiting your execution, so you were executing what seemed safe. 8 loops does get to that point, and your subconscious is desiring to avoid dealing with it, so it's making you numb.

Now there are a number of possible explanations, of which that is only one. But being numb isn't leading to execution and it's not leading to you being irresistibly sexy, so it has to be some sort of resistance tactic. Especially of fewer loops were getting better results.

Part of the reason the models gave me 8 loops a day was because of the amount of resistance that this version will generate. It's pushing hard to get to the root of your fears and get them gone. What you should see on one loop is that it starts executing well, and then that fades away as the root is approached, because the program doesn't have enough repetitions to stand up to the challenge of getting rid of the fear. The more loops will, and it may be that your numbness is your subconscious' way of making the process painless for you consciously as it happens.

You explained it pretty well actually. Yea it does make sense for me to feel numb then, because feeling numb is actually better than feeling depressed. With older versions with higher loops I felt depressed too in addition to the exhaustion.

I would like you to also know that same pattern happened with Uslm, and older versions of DSMI, except now strangely there is no depression
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Shannon,

A small concern: you removed the script library from the main site. Did you put it somewhere else or was it permanently removed? I'm unsure if you announced this as well.

I'd looked at it many times since your 3G and 4G scripts were very clear and inspiring. I found it missing last week when I went to go look up LTU 5G's script.
(02-06-2019, 01:16 PM)findingme Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,

A small concern: you removed the script library from the main site. Did you put it somewhere else or was it permanently removed? I'm unsure if you announced this as well.

I'd looked at it many times since your 3G and 4G scripts were very clear and inspiring. I found it missing last week when I went to go look up LTU 5G's script.

We have permanently removed the script library, since 3G scripts aren't describing any program in use, and people were assuming that higher level programs used those same scripts, which they do not. Since it no longer reflected current scripting, and 4G is going away in the not too distant future, it was decided that the script library could be retired.
Shannon,my brother is using LTU and reported waking up for the last few days at about 4:30 am at the end of the fifth loop.
(02-06-2019, 03:07 PM)Roy Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,my brother is using LTU and reported waking up for the last few days at about 4:30 am at the end of the fifth loop.

Is this happening from day 1, or after a period of time? Does he remember any dreams or experiences that may have caused him to awaken when he does? I'm presuming he tries to go back to sleep; does he succeed? And he finishes the loops?
I'll ask him.
(02-05-2019, 03:22 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 02:04 PM)OberynMartell Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 06:39 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 03:41 AM)OberynMartell Wrote: [ -> ]Long time no see guys! Still an avid user of DMSI, didn't journal though because of some very heavy personal stuff. Now I see that Shannon dropped LTU 4.0, very exciting stuff!

So @Shannon, what should I do? I really want to experience this new sub, however could it be an escape tactic for DMSI?

What version of DMSI are you using? How long has it been? What results are you getting? I don't know enough to answer your question.
Yeah I didn't give you enough information, sorry about that. Currently using the newest 3.1.1 D, until now 8 back to back loops a day. So not much to say about this, because it's only been 7 days. I've been using the sub DMSI since the beginning, since AOSI it was called if I remember correctly.
I really began to execute around DMSI 3.1, after that no results. Always followed the instructions and amount of loops.
In the meantime: Gained a lot of weight in body fat, which was/is really bad for my confidence. Also had a lot of personal setbacks in that period. After a lot of problems, I'm back at the good things again. Going to start a part time study which my boss will pay fully for, have still great rapport with my female co-workers. People notice that. But other than that, nothing like on 3.1.
So in summary, I know what the program can do, I know its power if you execute. Now to my question, what should I do? I really want to get the results of the program. But LTU sounds so good, it's almost impossible not to try it out. Maybe it is something I should figure out myself, just hoping if you or another member could help me in the right direction. Because it would suck if it was my subconscious trying to deny me results because of fear.

DMSI 3.3.1-D is going to be easier on you than LTU4.

I would keep going on DMSI-3.3.1-D for a while, trying various options like format and volume.

If you're gaining body fat, your subconscious is reverse resisting, and ignoring script, which at this point is pretty much only possible if the settings are not correct.

If you do jump to LTU4, you're going to have to deal with a tornado. You'll not be escaping, just moving to something else that will be doing much the same thing because of overlap when it comes to personal development, and doing it a lot faster and harder.

I would experiment with settings before I switched... presuming you haven't already.

Thanks for your reply Shannon, appreciate it, I will experiment with the settings and formats. Quick question, what about different formats in 1 session? Or is it recommended to use only one?
In the meantime will start journaling again soon, think I'm ready for it again after the terrible year I had. Hopefully I can help you with my feedback again
It is recommended that you stick with one format per listening session.
Shannon, when do you believe that E3 will be released? Would be awesome to have 1 weeks heads-up so I can stop listening to E2 and start on the day of the release.
(02-07-2019, 02:04 AM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, when do you believe that E3 will be released? Would be awesome to have 1 weeks heads-up so I can stop listening to E2 and start on the day of the release.

Things are not going according to plan. I don't know.
Hi Shannon, i was thinking of getting uslm4 when released for my dad, he has very good hearing and im playing dmsi through my speakers in my room, he might still be hearing it barely but its going through 2 closed doors and a fair distance away, if i was to get uslm4 for him and he plays it in his room at night when i got dmsi on will that be an issue? So 2 subs playing with a decent distance apart and seperated by 2 closed doors.
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