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(12-28-2018, 05:43 AM)Amann Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-28-2018, 04:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-28-2018, 04:11 AM)Amann Wrote: [ -> ]Quick question for Shannon.... I was wondering how much of the script has changed for USLM 4 compared to USLM 3?

I havent't gotten to adjusting that part of the script yet. USLM3 optimized the key script pretty much as far as it can go. USLM4 is going to make another optimization pass, but I doubt it will change much for that reason. It will have the new FRM backing it up, and it will include a number of new statements that I have determined are missing in USLM3 that will help make it more effective, successful and focused.

Based on the fact that one element (new FRM) is the only real major change, which is to do with removing fear which may prevent success/Luck.

Would it be prudent to say that 10% of the program has changed compared to USLM 3? Not talking about power ...rather change in program.

Based on that...I wonder if anyone would agree with me that previous owners of USLM 3 could pay an additional 10% fee (10% x $114.95 = $11.49) to upgrade to the new version rather than paying for it again.

That way you are compensated for your time and effort in developing the new FRM (which is to go into various programs) and we only have to pay a small fee for an upgrade rather than the entire cost again.

The 10% can be adjusted to how you see fit..

I believe he is charging everyone full price for that one. Quite fair since he did give us two upgrades gratis.
I think it is the power we should look at when considering the price instead of the amount of script that got altered.

In addition to the updated FRM and the slightly optimized key script, don't forget that the skeleton script is getting a substantial upgrade as well from the work that's been done on DMSI and LTU.

A $12 upgrade would sure be nice, but it wouldn't match the level of additional power we get, or the number of hours Shannon spent working on this. Thus, I wouldn't expect to pay anything less than the full price of the program.
(12-28-2018, 08:16 AM)Hatman Wrote: [ -> ]I think it is the power we should look at when considering the price instead of the amount of script that got altered.

In addition to the updated FRM and the slightly optimized key script, don't forget that the skeleton script is getting a substantial upgrade as well from the work that's been done on DMSI and LTU.

A $12 upgrade would sure be nice, but it wouldn't match the level of additional power we get, or the number of hours Shannon spent working on this. Thus, I wouldn't expect to pay anything less than the full price of the program.

Ding!! Bonus round!! Rob,Tell our contestants what they've just won!
Right,Jim...well contestants you've just won an amazing program that clear the slate over time of massive stuff thats been in your way fer years now...just by pushing a button and following these 'simple ass but very important instructions!" now back to you Bob...right,Jim... lets hear some applause for the cause!"
The fear removal technology,is incredible,in and of itself,add on USLM or LTU or USM,ect...you've gotta fear buster on top of the main goal(s) wow! yeah Full price for such ,do-able! I Know of ONLY one other soul that does similar ,which I Love,but I have to pay every month,ect. this is a 'one time shot'..boom...in your 'hands' your will,you life. not too shabby gabby!
(12-28-2018, 08:16 AM)Hatman Wrote: [ -> ]I think it is the power we should look at when considering the price instead of the amount of script that got altered.

In addition to the updated FRM and the slightly optimized key script, don't forget that the skeleton script is getting a substantial upgrade as well from the work that's been done on DMSI and LTU.

A $12 upgrade would sure be nice, but it wouldn't match the level of additional power we get, or the number of hours Shannon spent working on this. Thus, I wouldn't expect to pay anything less than the full price of the program.

Fair enough....if Shannon feels it is 100% more powerful in executing the goal of the sub then buying it outright again is completely justified. When it comes to power... only Shannon can answer that...

I never saw anything regarding the upgrade to the skeleton script but I'll take your word for it...
Shannon,

I’ve noticed a significant decrease in my desire for porn and masturbation as well as desire to bite or chew on my nails over the past several weeks I’ve also noticed a decreased desire and craving of sugar, nicotine, alcohol and caffeine - I have been on USLM3 since it’s release so almost 2 months now.

Could it be that these cravings/desires are rooted in fear and therefore by getting rid of the fear I am also getting rid of these bad habits/cravings/desires- or is just that the program believes these things to be in the way given the goals of the program and my conscious goals
(12-28-2018, 08:52 AM)Amann Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-28-2018, 08:16 AM)Hatman Wrote: [ -> ]I think it is the power we should look at when considering the price instead of the amount of script that got altered.

In addition to the updated FRM and the slightly optimized key script, don't forget that the skeleton script is getting a substantial upgrade as well from the work that's been done on DMSI and LTU.

A $12 upgrade would sure be nice, but it wouldn't match the level of additional power we get, or the number of hours Shannon spent working on this. Thus, I wouldn't expect to pay anything less than the full price of the program.

Fair enough....if Shannon feels it is 100% more powerful in executing the goal of the sub then buying it outright again is completely justified. When it comes to power... only Shannon can answer that...

I never saw anything regarding the upgrade to the skeleton script but I'll take your word for it...

If you aren't sure it is worth spending full price for again, just wait and see what results those who buy it get from it. No risk.
(12-28-2018, 09:16 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,

I’ve noticed a significant decrease in my desire for porn and masturbation as well as desire to bite or chew on my nails over the past several weeks I’ve also noticed a decreased desire and craving of sugar, nicotine, alcohol and caffeine - I have been on USLM3 since it’s release so almost 2 months now.

Could it be that these cravings/desires are rooted in fear and therefore by getting rid of the fear I am also getting rid of these bad habits/cravings/desires- or is just that the program believes these things to be in the way given the goals of the program and my conscious goals

Those things are all responses to fear. They are ways of "self medicating" to deal with, distract from and hide from fear. But they obviously don't work, or there wouldn't be a need for all of them.

It's amazing what fear does to us, which we don't even know it's doing.
(12-28-2018, 10:44 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-28-2018, 09:16 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,

I’ve noticed a significant decrease in my desire for porn and masturbation as well as desire to bite or chew on my nails over the past several weeks I’ve also noticed a decreased desire and craving of sugar, nicotine, alcohol and caffeine - I have been on USLM3 since it’s release so almost 2 months now.

Could it be that these cravings/desires are rooted in fear and therefore by getting rid of the fear I am also getting rid of these bad habits/cravings/desires- or is just that the program believes these things to be in the way given the goals of the program and my conscious goals

Those things are all responses to fear. They are ways of "self medicating" to deal with, distract from and hide from fear. But they obviously don't work, or there wouldn't be a need for all of them.

It's amazing what fear does to us, which we don't even know it's doing.

Shannon,

I only imagine what would this be like in addiction like STMA and No-Smoking sub.

I am making progress on my Nofap journey first time in my life...Check my journal.
Hi Shannon. I have some update and concerns about USLM3.

I have been listening to it for about two months now.

1. Ultra Success: it does give me motivation to succeed. I am rearing to go, go, go for my goals! :-)

2. Luck Maximizer: I have been having a string of bad luck since listening to it: car accident that lead to total loss, disagreements with close friends, computer virus that lead to loss of work files that set me back a month of work, sick, food poisoning, people are being more negative towards me; basically feeling like one step forward and several steps backwards.

It feels like US is taking me one step forward while LM is taking me several steps backwards.

In the first week of listening, LM worked for that one week moment however thereafter for 1 month and 3 weeks it's been not working or possibly causing the opposite of good luck.

@Shannon, what is going on? Why isn't USLM3 working for me? What's causing this string of bad luck? Is something missing from USLM3 to protect me from this odd situation of one step forward but several steps backward progress? Please let me know because it's been a frustrating two months or so. How do I break this string of bad luck that's been going on for two months every single week practically?

Thanks.
Will DMSI 3.3c include an upgraded FRM?
(12-28-2018, 11:05 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]Will DMSI 3.3c include an upgraded FRM?

I believe the answer is no, unfortunately. This is for data gathering purposes and for trying to see what the difference between FRM only and FRM+H&C is. To get the best results, it would be best to keep the power level of the two versions exactly the same. Shannon can clarify on that one Smile
(12-28-2018, 11:03 AM)Sterling Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon. I have some update and concerns about USLM3.

I have been listening to it for about two months now.

1. Ultra Success: it does give me motivation to succeed. I am rearing to go, go, go for my goals! :-)

2. Luck Maximizer: I have been having a string of bad luck since listening to it: car accident that lead to total loss, disagreements with close friends, computer virus that lead to loss of work files that set me back a month of work, sick, food poisoning, people are being more negative towards me; basically feeling like one step forward and several steps backwards.

It feels like US is taking me one step forward while LM is taking me several steps backwards.

In the first week of listening, LM worked for that one week moment however thereafter for 1 month and 3 weeks it's been not working or possibly causing the opposite of good luck.

@Shannon, what is going on? Why isn't USLM3 working for me? What's causing this string of bad luck? Is something missing from USLM3 to protect me from this odd situation of one step forward but several steps backward progress? Please let me know because it's been a frustrating two months or so. How do I break this string of bad luck that's been going on for two months every single week practically?

Thanks.

The only way that is possible is if you are experiencing subconscious reversal resistance to that part of the script. It is also - by what you describe - probable that some of it has nothing to do with LM. Apparently some part of you is extremely afraid of "good luck", and is seeking to reverse the instructions. This violates multiple parts of the ASS/ART, and right now I do not know how that is possible or what to do about it, shy of upgrading the FRM.

Everything to prevent that is already included in the script.

The only thing I can suggest is:

1. Try adjusting your usage patterns. What format you are using can have a big impact on how effective it is. Same with volume. Too high can trigger resistance. Too low may allow the subconscious to successfully evade execution.
2. Seek out why you are apparently terrified of "good luck" on a subconscious level.
3. Consider using USLM4. I don't want to make you think I'm trying to up-sell, because I'm not, but it will be more advanced and have upgrades that may solve the problem. While this may help, I have no idea why you are able to violate the sections of ASS/ART script that are designed to prevent this, so there is no guarantee that USLM4 will solve the issue.

If I were in your shoes, I might also try using it during the opposite time as you are now; awake if you are currently using it asleep, asleep if you are currently using it awake.

And if nothing else works, try these:

1. Start using it for a large number of loops per day. This will eventually become exhausting, but it should also push you past resistance if the volume and format are correct. I found that listening for 5 loops at night and then all day too allowed me to force success, but over the course of about a week, I became too exhausted to run the program.
2. Stop using it and allow it to bloom. In some cases this stops resistance because there is nothing left to "resist", as in "being told what to do".
(12-28-2018, 11:15 AM)Hatman Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-28-2018, 11:05 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]Will DMSI 3.3c include an upgraded FRM?

I believe the answer is no, unfortunately. This is for data gathering purposes and for trying to see what the difference between FRM only and FRM+H&C is. To get the best results, it would be best to keep the power level of the two versions exactly the same. Shannon can clarify on that one Smile

Correct. As much as I would like to upgrade the FRM in DMSI 3.3, I have to minimize the number of variables that change between versions to isolate what is causing what. So the next upgrade of FRM for DMSI will be in 3.4.
(12-28-2018, 12:08 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-28-2018, 11:03 AM)Sterling Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon. I have some update and concerns about USLM3.

I have been listening to it for about two months now.

1. Ultra Success: it does give me motivation to succeed. I am rearing to go, go, go for my goals! :-)

2. Luck Maximizer: I have been having a string of bad luck since listening to it: car accident that lead to total loss, disagreements with close friends, computer virus that lead to loss of work files that set me back a month of work, sick, food poisoning, people are being more negative towards me; basically feeling like one step forward and several steps backwards.

It feels like US is taking me one step forward while LM is taking me several steps backwards.

In the first week of listening, LM worked for that one week moment however thereafter for 1 month and 3 weeks it's been not working or possibly causing the opposite of good luck.

@Shannon, what is going on? Why isn't USLM3 working for me? What's causing this string of bad luck? Is something missing from USLM3 to protect me from this odd situation of one step forward but several steps backward progress? Please let me know because it's been a frustrating two months or so. How do I break this string of bad luck that's been going on for two months every single week practically?

Thanks.

The only way that is possible is if you are experiencing subconscious reversal resistance to that part of the script. It is also - by what you describe - probable that some of it has nothing to do with LM. Apparently some part of you is extremely afraid of "good luck", and is seeking to reverse the instructions. This violates multiple parts of the ASS/ART, and right now I do not know how that is possible or what to do about it, shy of upgrading the FRM.

Everything to prevent that is already included in the script.

The only thing I can suggest is:

1. Try adjusting your usage patterns. What format you are using can have a big impact on how effective it is. Same with volume. Too high can trigger resistance. Too low may allow the subconscious to successfully evade execution.
2. Seek out why you are apparently terrified of "good luck" on a subconscious level.
3. Consider using USLM4. I don't want to make you think I'm trying to up-sell, because I'm not, but it will be more advanced and have upgrades that may solve the problem. While this may help, I have no idea why you are able to violate the sections of ASS/ART script that are designed to prevent this, so there is no guarantee that USLM4 will solve the issue.

If I were in your shoes, I might also try using it during the opposite time as you are now; awake if you are currently using it asleep, asleep if you are currently using it awake.

And if nothing else works, try these:

1. Start using it for a large number of loops per day. This will eventually become exhausting, but it should also push you past resistance if the volume and format are correct. I found that listening for 5 loops at night and then all day too allowed me to force success, but over the course of about a week, I became too exhausted to run the program.
2. Stop using it and allow it to bloom. In some cases this stops resistance because there is nothing left to "resist", as in "being told what to do".

I reported it before, I also experienced bad luck on USLM, but for me it was worst on v2, it was really insane. However, on version 1A I didn't experience it that's why I believe that something in the H&C is the key to prevent or at least minimize that. Maybe your models can help to determine what is needed. Maybe we don't even need the complete H&C with FRM but I think having only FRM is like extracting the root of the tree and waiting until the rest of the tree dies while having both is like extracting the root AND taking care of the tree at the same time.
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