Subliminal Talk

@Shannon

Thanks for the quick reply.

My plan will likely be along the lines of:

1. Complete (up to) 12 months of the current AYP that I’m using (Pretty sure I remember reading that one of your lovers took 10-11 months to show up).

2. If she manifest, then awesome. Otherwise use DSMI-A for a few months or so.

3. Try AYP again, probably one of the 5G ones (Some forum members have had good results from them).

Quote:If that AYP is a 5G, don’t mix anything with it. If not, then may I suggest DMSI A side?

I’m doing a 4G AYP at the moment.

How different, and in what ways, is 5G AYP (MYP) compared to 4G?



A few months ago, I thought I had a manifestation,

There is one woman in my life. She is 37 years old. A few months ago she bought me dinner and drinks (she paid for it). And invited me back to her place (which is a group home). At her place she showed me her bedroom and proceeded to get naked (she was pretty hot, I would say 8.5 to me).

Everything seemed great. But her carer (who is also the group home manager) intervened before anything happened. She banned me from visiting 37yo woman, and explained that due to a legal technically, 37yo woman is unable to consent, despite her enthusiasm and her saying “Yes”, etc. (37yo woman has a form of brain damage).

The carer threatened to charge me with rape if anything sexual happens with 37yo woman. The carer explicitedly said no intercourse, no BJs, no handjobs, no foreplay and no kissing. The carer did say that me and 37yo woman can still go out for coffee, and nothing else (unless 37yo woman recovers from her brain damage, and a team of psychologists certify her as recovered).

I see 37yo woman at the local cafe on some of my lunch breaks (the cafe is near my workplace). She still says that she wants to “sleep together”, “share my bed”, “cuddle upstairs”, and once said that she wants to “help me in the shower”.

She is the first woman (so far) to ask me to sleep with her.


What is your take on this, in relation to AYP / manifestation?


I remember you saying that circumstances / situations that a person experiences is based on that person’s beliefs.

What kind of beliefs would lead to situation(s) such as the one (mentioned above) with me and 37yo woman?


Is there some sort of important lesson behind a situation like this manifesting?

Could something like this manifest as a catalyst in learning an important life lesson?

Could an AYP or other manifestation program (DMSI for example) manifest situation(s) that are catalyst(s) for personal growth?


Thanks

(08-03-2018, 09:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-03-2018, 08:47 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Please clarify something for Me...is US/LM a focus Fire sub or NOT the Case? Thank You. Keith.

No, its not. I could not build it in anything close to just 3 statements. It is a standard program.

AWESOME MAN! thats WHAT I wanted a Full On,Full out program,glad its NOT focus fire....bangin! appreciate it!!

(08-03-2018, 04:55 PM)ianmarconi Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I used MLS 5.5G for 3 months, i would insist on this sub for 3 more months but i have a super important deadline in 18 days and can't afford to wait for the sub to take effect. I brought UM/OP, that's what i need now, i can't take a break, what can i expect?

You can expect that there will be severe turbulence between those two programs. For a period of time, they will both be running in your head and you will probably experience confusion, exhaustion and overload with possible headaches and very probably inconsistent results. Once that fades, whatever sub you're using will dominate and start functioning normally.

Hey Shannon

Brief question how is Beast 17 development going?

Does DMSI have pieces of the new UM/OP in it?

As in does DMSI motivate people to achieve like UM/OP would? Or is that up to the OE?

Thanks

(08-03-2018, 08:42 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-03-2018, 04:55 PM)ianmarconi Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I used MLS 5.5G for 3 months, i would insist on this sub for 3 more months but i have a super important deadline in 18 days and can't afford to wait for the sub to take effect. I brought UM/OP, that's what i need now, i can't take a break, what can i expect?

You can expect that there will be severe turbulence between those two programs. For a period of time, they will both be running in your head and you will probably experience confusion, exhaustion and overload with possible headaches and very probably inconsistent results. Once that fades, whatever sub you're using will dominate and start functioning normally.

Talking about disruption, I tried those sleepheadphones for the first time. I went to sleep at 23:00 PM and I woke up at 04:00-04:30 AM The sleepheadphones felt a bit uncomfortable and I took the sleepheadband off and went back to sleep... I was at 5.5 loops so I stopped listening in the middle of a loop... I woke up at 09:00 AM and I want to listen further to make my full 8 hours of listening because that was the plan. Is this possible? Or should I just wait for tonight to do another round? Will this disrupt anything?

Could someone give me advice on this? Will the program be disruptive now or without effects because I missed a half loop? How should I proceed from now on :angel:

(08-03-2018, 11:11 PM)Williamx25 Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-03-2018, 08:42 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-03-2018, 04:55 PM)ianmarconi Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I used MLS 5.5G for 3 months, i would insist on this sub for 3 more months but i have a super important deadline in 18 days and can't afford to wait for the sub to take effect. I brought UM/OP, that's what i need now, i can't take a break, what can i expect?

You can expect that there will be severe turbulence between those two programs. For a period of time, they will both be running in your head and you will probably experience confusion, exhaustion and overload with possible headaches and very probably inconsistent results. Once that fades, whatever sub you're using will dominate and start functioning normally.

Talking about disruption, I tried those sleepheadphones for the first time. I went to sleep at 23:00 PM and I woke up at 04:00-04:30 AM The sleepheadphones felt a bit uncomfortable and I took the sleepheadband off and went back to sleep... I was at 5.5 loops so I stopped listening in the middle of a loop... I woke up at 09:00 AM and I want to listen further to make my full 8 hours of listening because that was the plan. Is this possible? Or should I just wait for tonight to do another round? Will this disrupt anything?

Could someone give me advice on this? Will the program be disruptive now or without effects because I missed a half loop? How should I proceed from now on :angel:

a few seconds disruption to just less than a minute is fine and should be fine but anything more than a minute then you've taken a break and so stop. This was the advice I got many weeks or months ago.

So continue tonight as normal for todays listen.

Also I tried sleepheadphones and they were very painful and I hated them so never used them.

(08-03-2018, 06:02 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

Thanks for the quick reply.

My plan will likely be along the lines of:

1. Complete (up to) 12 months of the current AYP that I’m using (Pretty sure I remember reading that one of your lovers took 10-11 months to show up).

2. If she manifest, then awesome. Otherwise use DSMI-A for a few months or so.

3. Try AYP again, probably one of the 5G ones (Some forum members have had good results from them).

Quote:If that AYP is a 5G, don’t mix anything with it. If not, then may I suggest DMSI A side?

I’m doing a 4G AYP at the moment.

How different, and in what ways, is 5G AYP (MYP) compared to 4G?



A few months ago, I thought I had a manifestation,

There is one woman in my life. She is 37 years old. A few months ago she bought me dinner and drinks (she paid for it). And invited me back to her place (which is a group home). At her place she showed me her bedroom and proceeded to get naked (she was pretty hot, I would say 8.5 to me).

Everything seemed great. But her carer (who is also the group home manager) intervened before anything happened. She banned me from visiting 37yo woman, and explained that due to a legal technically, 37yo woman is unable to consent, despite her enthusiasm and her saying “Yes”, etc. (37yo woman has a form of brain damage).

The carer threatened to charge me with rape if anything sexual happens with 37yo woman. The carer explicitedly said no intercourse, no BJs, no handjobs, no foreplay and no kissing. The carer did say that me and 37yo woman can still go out for coffee, and nothing else (unless 37yo woman recovers from her brain damage, and a team of psychologists certify her as recovered).

I see 37yo woman at the local cafe on some of my lunch breaks (the cafe is near my workplace). She still says that she wants to “sleep together”, “share my bed”, “cuddle upstairs”, and once said that she wants to “help me in the shower”.

She is the first woman (so far) to ask me to sleep with her.


What is your take on this, in relation to AYP / manifestation?


I remember you saying that circumstances / situations that a person experiences is based on that person’s beliefs.

What kind of beliefs would lead to situation(s) such as the one (mentioned above) with me and 37yo woman?


Is there some sort of important lesson behind a situation like this manifesting?

Could something like this manifest as a catalyst in learning an important life lesson?

Could an AYP or other manifestation program (DMSI for example) manifest situation(s) that are catalyst(s) for personal growth?


Thanks

I am wondering what kinda brain damage she's suffering from?

Also, I think the care taker is taking things to extreme.. No Kissing..? WTF?

(08-03-2018, 05:18 PM)bits Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon

For all I know this or something similar could already be in DMSI but just wanted to throw it out there. I was just wondering if you've thought about putting partial/staged execution into DMSI, meaning let's take an extreme example and say a guy wakes up from a 10 year coma at the age of 18 and has 0 experience with women, the last thing he remembers about women is sharing his crayons with a classmate. Obviously he'll have some blocks and inexperience to get over in order to reach the final goals of DMSI but maybe he could execute at or +1 step of what he's ready for. So for example instead of DMSI trying to execute "women approach me for sex" it would look more like:

Starts DMSI, women start taking quick glances at him, he's not entirely ready for that so healing takes place

now women hold eye contact instead of just glancing, more healing

now women start to hold eye contact and smile, more healing

now women begin initiating conversations, more healing

now conversations turn flirty/sexual, more healing

now women begin initiating romantic touch, more healing

now they start initiating kissing, more healing

etc...

I thought about it before but figured it would require a multi stage program like am6 and I know you and many others wanted a single stage program. But after catching up with a guy who REALLY struggled with women I think a gradual approach + gained experience might be the way to go. It's not like the guy wasn't trying he just couldn't get anywhere, some blocks obviously, but at age 26 he'd never even held a womans hand. Last year he finally gave in and I convinced him to try pheromones and started him off with 100% socials and little by little he improved, with or without them but it was a bit of 2 steps forward 1 step back. The first night he wore pheromones he literally ran out of the bar when a woman looked at him and smiled, after some months of almost daily practice he managed to get to the point of bringing women home, but had some serious blocks about even bringing them into his room or seeing them naked.

In December he moved Vegas for work and finally cracked and decided he was just going to pay for it which I advised him not to do but he went with it anyways, his first 5 escort visits resulted in nothing due to his hangups. He's financially successful so he kept going at it and went on a bit of rampage but around #10 he finally had sex and then stopped at #35. Funnily what stopped him wasn't the money or shame, but rather he noticed increase interest from women and fumbled around with 2 women before finally being able to "close the deal" with the 3rd non-escort woman and he says having sex was like a snowball effect for him. Once he got passed the sex hurdle, then the non-escort hurdle, it's been a normal and active sex life for him.

Again I don't recommend guys take this route, but I do think that 2 steps forward and 1 step back approach and the slow and gradual conscious experience greatly helped him. Sadly he decided to go the escort route when he likely would have had the same result with non-escorts if he didn't stop after a few last minute failures.

Now back to DMSI if a guy has little or no experience it might take a long time for him to heal towards "women approach me for sex" but getting them to execute "women are drawn to me and start friendly conversations" would be a lot easier, let them gain some real world experience for their conscious mind, and then can move on to the next stage of execution.

I think the best analogy would be like using a subliminal to learn a language, lets say the english to french translations were packed into a subliminal and if put on the spot yea you could intuitively guess the french word for apple but you might stutter and the pronunciation would be a little off. Some minor success but if asked to deliver a speech completely in french with no preparation as an analogy to going from no/little sexual experience to full DMSI execution, the results may not be very impressive. But if somebody used the subliminal + took language lessons + practiced speaking short common sentences their first couple of full french speeches would be a little rough but native speakers would guess he has 5 years of experience rather than 5 months.

Again I don't know if something like this is already in DMSI or if it would be possible, just typing out loudly pretty much.

Do you realize that a staged version of DMSI would cost about $690? It would also require an approach that does not allow for me to continue developing the skeleton script, which is the whole reason I started building DMSI in the first place.

Making DMSI work is not necessarily going to require a staged approach. It's going to require execution of the script, which will then spur the growth which causes it to work, regardless of your level of experience starting out.

I could make it as a staged script, when it's finished, but when it's finished, if it does what I want it to do, that won't be necessary.

@Shannon

I dont know if this is deliberate, unimportant or unknown, but it seems like the 5.5 subs no longer mention that the programs become permanent after 3-however many months of consistent use.

Is the possibly permanent status still a thing after enough usage?

Thank you.

(08-04-2018, 09:06 AM)Nox Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

I dont know if this is deliberate, unimportant or unknown, but it seems like the 5.5 subs no longer mention that the programs become permanent after 3-however many months of consistent use.

Is the possibly permanent status still a thing after enough usage?

Thank you.

Yes, but with the technology advancing so fast, I'm not sure what is what in that direction right now.

Quote:

Quote:Q1b. Could limiting beliefs derail manifestation(s) from AYP and other manifestation subs?

Of course

Shannon, you answered this question a few posts earlier. My question is how can we rid those limiting beliefs in general? What if subconsciously these beliefs are stopping someone from executing a majority if not all of the subs? In effect it would be like stonewalling but perhaps not from a fear perspective but a "not possible" perspective.

(08-03-2018, 08:57 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon

Brief question how is Beast 17 development going?

@Shannon

(08-03-2018, 06:02 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

Thanks for the quick reply.

My plan will likely be along the lines of:

1. Complete (up to) 12 months of the current AYP that I’m using (Pretty sure I remember reading that one of your lovers took 10-11 months to show up).

2. If she manifest, then awesome. Otherwise use DSMI-A for a few months or so.

3. Try AYP again, probably one of the 5G ones (Some forum members have had good results from them).

Quote:If that AYP is a 5G, don’t mix anything with it. If not, then may I suggest DMSI A side?

I’m doing a 4G AYP at the moment.

How different, and in what ways, is 5G AYP (MYP) compared to 4G?

I gave up on the program after 6 or 8 months playing it, and it took another 2 months for the woman to show up, IIRC. You seem to be hellbent on using this program, and I'm thinking that given your situation, it's not going to work for you. That's why I suggested DMSI-A to you so many times. But it's your choice. Time is the one resource we can never get back once it's gone.

5G MYP is more powerful than 4G AYP.

Quote:A few months ago, I thought I had a manifestation,

There is one woman in my life. She is 37 years old. A few months ago she bought me dinner and drinks (she paid for it). And invited me back to her place (which is a group home). At her place she showed me her bedroom and proceeded to get naked (she was pretty hot, I would say 8.5 to me).

Everything seemed great. But her carer (who is also the group home manager) intervened before anything happened. She banned me from visiting 37yo woman, and explained that due to a legal technically, 37yo woman is unable to consent, despite her enthusiasm and her saying “Yes”, etc. (37yo woman has a form of brain damage).

The carer threatened to charge me with rape if anything sexual happens with 37yo woman. The carer explicitedly said no intercourse, no BJs, no handjobs, no foreplay and no kissing. The carer did say that me and 37yo woman can still go out for coffee, and nothing else (unless 37yo woman recovers from her brain damage, and a team of psychologists certify her as recovered).

I see 37yo woman at the local cafe on some of my lunch breaks (the cafe is near my workplace). She still says that she wants to “sleep together”, “share my bed”, “cuddle upstairs”, and once said that she wants to “help me in the shower”.

She is the first woman (so far) to ask me to sleep with her.


What is your take on this, in relation to AYP / manifestation?

I don't know what it was. I do know that you've told that story at least three or four times now, and I think you would do best to leave it in the past and move on to the present.

Quote:I remember you saying that circumstances / situations that a person experiences is based on that person’s beliefs.

What kind of beliefs would lead to situation(s) such as the one (mentioned above) with me and 37yo woman?

You are quite capable of analyzing that question and answering it for yourself.

Quote:Is there some sort of important lesson behind a situation like this manifesting?

We don't know it was a manifestation.

Quote:Could something like this manifest as a catalyst in learning an important life lesson?

It could. Just like it could be nothing at all.

Quote:Could an AYP or other manifestation program (DMSI for example) manifest situation(s) that are catalyst(s) for personal growth?


Thanks

Yes. Most 5.5G programs are specifically designed to trigger personal growth to cause you to deliberately outgrow your limitations so you can achieve the goals.