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(03-14-2018, 08:48 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]I am no longer a stonewaller. I was but now I am released from this and so i am an executer? hows that sound? as ill need to change my descrip' under my name.

Fixed Wink
(03-14-2018, 08:48 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:42 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:40 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 03:17 AM)AstonMartin Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, what can you estimate about the effectiveness of H&C in 3.2A then compared to 3.1A?
Maybe in percentage.

You're asking me what percentage of red is redder if we have more red than we have now. There's no way to answer. I have said this before several times already, but I will say it again:

DMSI will do what it takes to get you to the finish line, provided you execute the script.

A side will try to actively and gently clear and heal those issues that block you, and may take longer. B side will leave that job up to the Optimus Engine, which will achieve the goal by whatever means are most expedient. They will both get you past that barrier if you need H&C to do it; it's not a matter of which one is "more effective", but of which one is more suitable for your personality type.

I have no idea for me which therefore is better. As a stonewaller that is now not stonewalling on B, so far not fapping is the only tangible result I have noticed. I dont want to sabotage this by changing to A but I also dont want to miss on any better effect that A may give me. No idea. I would only change to A because the "H&C" sounds so amazing as I would love to heal and clear my inner garbage but at the same time, B being a sledgehammer will achieve this too and smash through.

I feel like im stuck between a rock and a hard place with this.

What if you cease to identify yourself as a stonewaller?

I am no longer a stonewaller. I was but now I am released from this and so i am an executer? hows that sound? as ill need to change my descrip' under my name.

Your first response was to identify as a stonewaller. What is the definition of a stonewaller, Jake? Someone who resists and stonewalls. And what will the subconscious do in reaction to the identity of being someone who resists and stonewalls? Perpetuate that reality, of course. Same reason why most people keep failing to really stop smoking, and instead they feed themselves bullshit lies about "I've quit 34 times now!" No, they paused 34 times now... they were always still a smoker because that was their core identity.

When someone called you out on this, you said you are no longer a stonewaller. But this identity is your subconscious reality, and was revealed as such by the automatic reference to yourself as such.

DMSI has scripting to deal with this. But it will take time to work. How much time, I don't know.
(03-14-2018, 09:29 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:33 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:29 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Believe it or not, "Anything is possible" has been in the script for a long time...

this makes me wonder are there certain things that are easily executed by all, such as no masturbation and then are there those elements in DMSI that are NOT being executed at all, such as "anything is possible"?

Wouldnt the wall therefore eventually stop all from resisting?

Various things represent goals that are more or less desirable to the subconscious being tasked with achieving them as goals, and they will be responded to accordingly by virtue of how much it tries to resist or escape in some way.

The wall is there to prevent you from escaping through things like masturbation. It is an aspect of ASS/ART, but not by itself the end-all be-all.

When I figure out what is allowing people to do the things they do in response to a script that should already be producing results for everyone, I close that gate or loophole. Then the subconscious tries to find or create another. This is a game that I will eventually win, because eventually there will be none left. Whatever it can do, I can figure out and un-do. And by doing it, it reveals what can be done, and eventually, how. I will win.

Of course it seems unlikely that I will ever achieve 100% execution for 100% of the users, if only because once I achieve say 95% the return on energy and time invested to get that last 5% is no longer worth the cost to me. At that point, those who continue to choose to fail will be given my blessing to enjoy their failure, and the rest of us will move on to 6G.

Hey Shannon

How is your lung sub and the custom coming along?
(03-14-2018, 08:30 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Instead of expecting and insisting on failure, figure out what YOU are doing to get that reaction, and change it. That's how I stopped choosing women who would cheat on and betray me.

Been doing that for a while now. There's not a lot of insight on the matter. Everything I've tried so far has not led to success.
(03-14-2018, 08:29 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Believe it or not, "Anything is possible" has been in the script for a long time...

You put anything is possible in the script for DMSI 3.2 ??
(03-14-2018, 09:58 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:30 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Instead of expecting and insisting on failure, figure out what YOU are doing to get that reaction, and change it. That's how I stopped choosing women who would cheat on and betray me.

Been doing that for a while now. There's not a lot of insight on the matter. Everything I've tried so far has not led to success.

Keep looking.
(03-14-2018, 10:13 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:29 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Believe it or not, "Anything is possible" has been in the script for a long time...

You put anything is possible in the script for DMSI 3.2 ??

It's been in DMSI since around 2.5
(03-14-2018, 08:48 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:42 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:40 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 08:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-14-2018, 03:17 AM)AstonMartin Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, what can you estimate about the effectiveness of H&C in 3.2A then compared to 3.1A?
Maybe in percentage.

You're asking me what percentage of red is redder if we have more red than we have now. There's no way to answer. I have said this before several times already, but I will say it again:

DMSI will do what it takes to get you to the finish line, provided you execute the script.

A side will try to actively and gently clear and heal those issues that block you, and may take longer. B side will leave that job up to the Optimus Engine, which will achieve the goal by whatever means are most expedient. They will both get you past that barrier if you need H&C to do it; it's not a matter of which one is "more effective", but of which one is more suitable for your personality type.

I have no idea for me which therefore is better. As a stonewaller that is now not stonewalling on B, so far not fapping is the only tangible result I have noticed. I dont want to sabotage this by changing to A but I also dont want to miss on any better effect that A may give me. No idea. I would only change to A because the "H&C" sounds so amazing as I would love to heal and clear my inner garbage but at the same time, B being a sledgehammer will achieve this too and smash through.

I feel like im stuck between a rock and a hard place with this.

What if you cease to identify yourself as a stonewaller?

I am no longer a stonewaller. I was but now I am released from this and so i am an executer? hows that sound? as ill need to change my descrip' under my name.

It's better that u start saying that u are an "Executor".
Identifying with being a resistor, a stonewaller, etc. resists the goal in itself. But stating that you are an executor before you are is also going to trigger resistance. For now, just disconnecting the "resister" identity is the goal.
Let me steal Shannon thunder for a minute and announce the release of a new experimental sub that will be hitting the shop within the next day or two. Here is the description:

APCE_MFX_HU

This new subliminal is being released, purposely without clear description, for free in order to test a new subliminal technology. It contains specific, unique technology that is not present in any other subliminals currently in production. The reason for not giving a clear indication of what this sub does or any clues about the goals of the script is to definitively test what the results will be without the user being aware of the goal(s). We will gague success upon user experience in journal entries on the forum.

We want to reiterate that APCE_MFX_HU is for experimental use only and we do not guarantee nor claim to guarantee results of any kind.

This subliminal is designed to be a voluntary effect, and therefore will only affect people who subconsciously agree to the goals of the program, so it is therefore safe to expose others while exposing the self.

Compatibility:
APCE_MFX_HU does contain P6 technology and as such it is not compatible with use along side any other subliminal.

Usage:
We recommend starting at one loop per day to allow yourself to observe how minimum exposure will effect you. Please be aware that each loop is 2 hours long. Moderate volume is suggested. APCE_MFX_HU should be used only by persons 18 years and older and is suitable for use by any gender.
(03-14-2018, 12:10 PM)Cyanide Wrote: [ -> ]Let me steal Shannon thunder for a minute and announce the release of a new experimental sub that will be hitting the shop within the next day or two. Here is the description:

APCE_MFX_HU

This new subliminal is being released, purposely without clear description, for free in order to test a new subliminal technology. It contains specific, unique technology that is not present in any other subliminals currently in production. The reason for not giving a clear indication of what this sub does or any clues about the goals of the script is to definitively test what the results will be without the user being aware of the goal(s). We will gague success upon user experience in journal entries on the forum.

We want to reiterate that APCE_MFX_HU is for experimental use only and we do not guarantee nor claim to guarantee results of any kind.

This subliminal is designed to be a voluntary effect, and therefore will only affect people who subconsciously agree to the goals of the program, so it is therefore safe to expose others while exposing the self.

Compatibility:
APCE_MFX_HU does contain P6 technology and as such it is not compatible with use along side any other subliminal.

Usage:
We recommend starting at one loop per day to allow yourself to observe how minimum exposure will effect you. Please be aware that each loop is 2 hours long. Moderate volume is suggested. APCE_MFX_HU should be used only by persons 18 years and older and is suitable for use by any gender.

Is that serious?
What is APCE_MFX_HU?
(03-14-2018, 12:34 PM)Sanbosay Wrote: [ -> ]What is APCE_MFX_HU?

Quote:This new subliminal is being released, purposely without clear description, for free in order to test a new subliminal technology
Yes it's serious. We expect not much usage currently due to dmsi. However, for those who are not using dmsi and are in transition between subs may find time to try it out.
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