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About the new 5.5G LTU's price that's actually not expensive at all given that the combined value we are getting if we buy each of the 12 titles seperately is $1,379.40. That's almost $800 in savings! which translates to 7 free 5.5G titles each costing $115!!! high price? sure, but huge life changing value for our money!
(02-02-2019, 07:42 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 07:09 AM)DavisMind91 Wrote: [ -> ]Sick of seeing people bitch about the LTU price. Break the parasite mentality you have and understand the work it must’ve taken to even bring this thing into fruition. You already know something like this wasn’t gonna be cheap. Shannon went as far as to choose the absolute lowest price to start with in order to roll the subliminal out with a bargain price (at least temporarily). All the other points as to how and why the $600 price is there have already been made so I won’t bother repeating those. Bottom line is, if your ass can’t afford it right now then how about you spend less time complaining and more time figuring out how to save up the money for it.

I'm not bitching about the price, just stating a fact that people on a tight budget will probably be priced out of 6G when it comes.

The prices are a pretty hard slog for many people!

Very soon, I’m going to start saving for AYP 6G. By the time Shannon makes it (hopefully in 2019, or 2020) I’ll have the $300 ready to buy it!
(02-02-2019, 08:05 AM)racktree Wrote: [ -> ]It is obvious that some will find the price huge and others a bargain.

Ask someone living in a country that gets a $400 monthly wage, someone that gets $3k monthly wage and someone who pays a performance coach for $200 a session and you will get three different stories about how good or bad the LTU price is.

Even if you go further some people value self-development more and some others not. I paid $500 for AM, run it twice already and did a hundred changes in my appearance, lifestyle and character in general. If I was to do this with coaching I would definitely need a team of different people to coach me, a lot of energy and focus and would still not have the natural smooth changes I experienced. Now if someone would take all these back and make me pay again I would pay at least $5k to get them back.

It is also obvious as terry44 mentioned that an ideal price (which I am not sure how it can be properly determined) will make more profit to Shannon. Yet again Shannon might have other things in mind. For example keeping a specific price and delivering results-value to customers might attract the right audience that can pay.

Good point.

I know a woman who usually gets $40,000+ per month ($500,000+ per year), and a guy with a spare $200,000 laying around. I also know plenty of dudes on minimum wage.

There is a market out there for anyone who charges $299.95 for a 6G sub. No-one with disposal income seems to ever complain about how expensive Louis Vuitton or Armani or Apple, etc. is!
Quote:From Shannon’s earlier post, it sounds like he plans to offer 4G and 5G products at lower price points and keep 6G higher priced as a way to offer different sub levels for a wide variety of consumers. Somewhat similar to the way a new smartphone comes out each year and the last year’s gets cheaper.

It’s a smart approach imo but the big issue I see is the limit of 4G and 5G subs. From what I’ve seen, it could be that a 4G and a 6G version of the same sub exists and someone would be more than willing to pay the price for the 6G but they never tried subs so they try the 4G one out but they “resist” the entire sub and decide they just don’t work. Whereas if they had used the 6G one they’d get the results and stay a long time customer.

I think it’d be great though if at some point 4G and 5G received some kind of “anti resisting” upgrade so that doesn’t happen. Or maybe something where you take an online quiz that tells you the minimum sub generation you should use. Just something that crossed my mind.

Maybe Shannon can have everything in 6G for those who can afford $300 per sub. And also have everything in 5G for $90 per sub (for those with less income / money).


Edit: Just read that Shannon plans to phase out 5G.
Please do E3 in two versions with "reflective-back-to-the-person" respectively with "reflective-into-the-air" protective aura. I'm pretty sure my mom will not stop attacking me energetically if she doesn't get a taste of her own medicine.

Some side questions:
- Will the aura be protective of other people getting attacked but being close to me? I'm thinking of my father who also is a victim of my mother's attacking him.
- If the aura make toxic people not able to be toxic towards you, wouldn't that hinder your development of healthy boundaries? But that development maybe is spurred by E3 in itself, not needing the outside pressure. Just a thought.
- What if the case is that I am projecting my own problems on people and just believe them being toxic, without actually being toxic? Would that make the aura repel people that maybe want me good? Or is the aura seeing through my own psychological limitations?
(02-02-2019, 03:00 PM)Rossignol17 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 09:10 AM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 08:57 AM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 08:23 AM)terry44 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 08:05 AM)racktree Wrote: [ -> ]It is obvious that some will find the price huge and others a bargain.

Ask someone living in a country that gets a $400 monthly wage, someone that gets $3k monthly wage and someone who pays a performance coach for $200 a session and you will get three different stories about how good or bad the LTU price is.

Even if you go further some people value self-development more and some others not. I paid $500 for AM, run it twice already and did a hundred changes in my appearance, lifestyle and character in general. If I was to do this with coaching I would definitely need a team of different people to coach me, a lot of energy and focus and would still not have the natural smooth changes I experienced. Now if someone would take all these back and make me pay again I would pay at least $5k to get them back.

It is also obvious as terry44 mentioned that an ideal price (which I am not sure how it can be properly determined) will make more profit to Shannon. Yet again Shannon might have other things in mind. For example keeping a specific price and delivering results-value to customers might attract the right audience that can pay.

Yeah, I suppose that would mean that subs have gone from something anyone with an open mind and a modest income could afford to try, to something only those with a much larger amount of spare cash can afford.

From Shannon’s earlier post, it sounds like he plans to offer 4G and 5G products at lower price points and keep 6G higher priced as a way to offer different sub levels for a wide variety of consumers. Somewhat similar to the way a new smartphone comes out each year and the last year’s gets cheaper.

It’s a smart approach imo but the big issue I see is the limit of 4G and 5G subs. From what I’ve seen, it could be that a 4G and a 6G version of the same sub exists and someone would be more than willing to pay the price for the 6G but they never tried subs so they try the 4G one out but they “resist” the entire sub and decide they just don’t work. Whereas if they had used the 6G one they’d get the results and stay a long time customer.

I think it’d be great though if at some point 4G and 5G received some kind of “anti resisting” upgrade so that doesn’t happen. Or maybe something where you take an online quiz that tells you the minimum sub generation you should use. Just something that crossed my mind.

ASC 6G will be offered for free, so that "resistor" type would have an opportunity to experience the power of a 6G sub without risk.

And there will still be UMS 5.5G - I think we'll see quite a few people makin' some moula. Dude who won the Pick 5 Lotto using USLM3 certainly has enough cash to buy whatever subs he wants to run in the future, lol. Obviously, that result comes w/ a tag "results not typical," but who knows...maybe one day, they will be (typical).

Hi RTBoss,

FYI......I am female....not a "dude". Victoire It is understandable that you might make that mistake because it seems to me that most of the forum posters here are male. And yes, I will be purchasing many more of Shannon's subs as he rolls out the new ones. I am still on my last month of USLM3 and I will finish the run.

As I said before, my main goal with using USLM3 is manifesting more money, and my first sub-goal (of 2) under that was to win a Fantasy 5 jackpot. I only have 1 additional goal under that first sub-goal, that has not yet manifested. I have modified my goals slightly since achieving my win, but they are all directed to manifesting more money.....that is the singular focus for my using USLM3. I wanted to keep it as laser-focused as possible, and still do. I have other life goals, but right now I am choosing to direct all my energy from USLM3 to manifesting money. I don't know what others chose to do when selecting goals, but my choice was to make it 1 over-arching goal, with only 2 sub-goals.

I have used other subs (from other sub companies) in the past with limited results. I was initially a little hesitant to spend $115 on a sub. I spent a lot of time browsing the forums here, and I felt certain that Shannon's products were the best products out there. I then read Shannon's interview posted on this site, and I knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they would work for me. As far as I am concerned now, I would NEVER buy a sub from any other producer ever again. To me that would be like throwing money away. So yes, I took that leap of faith, stuck with the program (still using it ) as directed, and will finish the 3 month block.

As far as the pricing, I can understand how $600 for a program seems expensive to some people, but I have to agree with Shannon that you get what you pay for. I am a person who always prefers quality over quantity, and I will wait until I can afford something rather than buy a cheap alternative.

I was initially doubting the program after I began using it, and posted those thoughts here. I was encouraged by several forum members to stick with it. So I view my initial skepticism as a form of resistance that I did overcome.

Also, remember that I have been working on winning a Fantasy 5 jackpot for many months and I have been diligently working on my system since May 2018. I am still using my system and looking for ways to improve my picks. I always try to learn from my past mistakes and I hope that my intuition will only get better and that I will continue to be "lucky ". But it is not just luck, I work on my system daily !

I hope that everyone using USLM3 (and those contemplating using it) will reach their goals. I read a lot of user journals and I see the growth, which has been very gratifying to read about.

@Rossignol17

Pardon me. No offense intended. I actually call women "dude" all the time. For instance, if my wife were to drop $200 at Costco, I'd say, "Dude, really!?" The term, for me, doesn't carry any gender identification. Anyway, you're a lady. Duly noted! Smile
(02-02-2019, 10:15 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Just watched this video... on "Fear"..."Living Life Without Fear | Neale Donald Walsch" on youtube. cant put the link here,as the video mentions the "G" word and I dont want break the rule of Rule #4. its easy to find on YT,though. I Post this here because Im so impressed with FRM 3.0 and I know I will be even more so, with FRM 4.5. A Lot of people can talk about fear/fear removal/give speeches and this one on the video is so darn good,honestly,but they cant actually remove the stuff like fear remover does and almost no where else do I know of that can do so,so deeply and on a regular like FRM. does.

I've done workshops that cost Lots Moola to do so..and the ether's get so up there ,so inspired,uplifted,then 4 days later back to regular like and the fear based stuff is 'up & active again"
I loved listening to this video and the insight it gave me,I shall watch again,all the while running USLM3 with FRM 3.0 in it!:-) awesome combo.
if FRM 4.5 is worth sooo much more than whats asked for...all the while contained in a goal oriented script like USLM3-4,UMS,UMOP,ect...LTU! dang!! what a deal. OK I've made my points ,I;'ll give it a rest.

Thanks for the heads up about the video bro! Going to watch now. Before I do though as I’ve said before the one person I know who has absolutely zero observable fear is also a self made multi-millionaire. Coincidence? I think not.
Hi Shannon,

I’ve been on USLM3 since release- so around 3 months now.

How is it that I’ve yet to see any truly significant changes or occurrences on USLM3, but on USLM 1+2 I noticed this positive feeling that everything was going to be ok and I also warmed up while I was playing it (kind of like a DMSI aura effect but it happened consistently when I played as opposed to sporadically with DMSI and it was stronger on 2 than 1 but I haven’t felt it at all on 3).

I regularly won something while playing different lotto games on 1+2 and noticed life and job success- more so on 1 than 2, but there was a boost in lotto winnings on 2.

So my main question is how is it that there were benefits and changes noticed on 1+2 but not really on 3, and the improvement was noticed from 1 to 2 but not really in 3. The main thing I noticed on 3 is that I was dead tired for the first 1-2 weeks then went back to normal- I’ve noticed more sabotage and reverse resistance than anything on USLM3.
So after using 3.3.1 for a week i have been getting nightmares alot. Usually been dreaming about what I have been thinking about the day before. Like about old friends in high school that I have not seen in 10 years betraying me or horror movies that I watched the day before. Is this normal? I usually wake up with sweat all over me at least 3 times during the night.
(02-02-2019, 02:47 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-02-2019, 01:53 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2019, 11:53 PM)hsindermann Wrote: [ -> ]Bought and downloading now. I'm very curious to see what this one can do!

There seems to be a little problem with downloading the file with the hashes - might have to do with the typo in the filename?

Code:
<Error>
<Code>NoSuchKey</Code>
<Message>The specified key does not exist.</Message>
<Key>
l/Life_Tune_Up_4_in_5_5G/Life_Tune_Up_4_0_MD5__SHA256_HJashes.txt
</Key>
<RequestId>AEAFB507DB43F9C6</RequestId>
<HostId>
wRHB25Btyh2MI4DhYtneKDMGnVOefD/RhWqHghsmhqODeKOhBVVjRczWRIipicWsz76RJp7s6B8=
</HostId>
</Error>

Sorry, i'll fix that. I wondered if that might happen.

Should be fixed, let me know. I won't be around for a few hours atleast though.

Works fine now, thanks Ben!
Hi Shannon, im using pi music on my android phone to play dmsi tonight using headphones but each time a message comes through it goes quiet for a second is that going to cause an issue for tonights loops, if yes then might have to go back to playing through the computer for the loops each night.
(02-03-2019, 02:33 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, im using pi music on my android phone to play dmsi tonight using headphones but each time a message comes through it goes quiet for a second is that going to cause an issue for tonights loops, if yes then might have to go back to playing through the computer for the loops each night.

Why not put the phone in airplane mode at night when playing the loops? That way, you will not be disturbed by messages while playing the subliminal. As an added bonus, you will not be exposed to EMF radiation from your phone while sleeping (we are the most vulnerable to EMF radiation when we sleep).
Hi dmsiuser78, i was starting it at 6pm and will stay awake till 2-3am till the loops were finished listening with headphones, i wanted to get the most results from it playing and thats why trying headphones while awake this cycle, i cant sleep with bulky headphones on though as its a good chance they would fall off during the night, i could use it through speakers like last week but was seeing if headphones will make it more effective for me to start seeing some changes. If its on airplane mode at 6pm and people try and send messages i wont see them.

If it is an issue with the volume decreasing when a message arrives i will go back to using the computer speakers each night for the 8 loops. Just thought to try it this way for a week.
(02-03-2019, 03:30 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi dmsiuser78, i was starting it at 6pm and will stay awake till 2-3am till the loops were finished listening with headphones, i wanted to get the most results from it playing and thats why trying headphones while awake this cycle, i cant sleep with bulky headphones on though as its a good chance they would fall off during the night, i could use it through speakers like last week but was seeing if headphones will make it more effective for me to start seeing some changes. If its on airplane mode at 6pm and people try and send messages i wont see them.

If it is an issue with the volume decreasing when a message arrives i will go back to using the computer speakers each night for the 8 loops. Just thought to try it this way for a week.

In that case you could try putting your phone in silent mode or vibrate only.
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