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Shannon,

Since you going to have a break soon.

Do you think you can make your book (tarot) one on Amazon to be available in kindle/ebook?

I think you will benefit alot from this also it will be easier for us to order internationally.
Many of us can't order because of international shipping hassle
(07-10-2018, 04:00 PM)kalmah0804 Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon--I've been taking a bit of a break from the forums, so I apologize if this question has already been answered, but I figured it's worth a shot asking, because I think at least someone needs to report this type of stuff:

I'm wondering if it's possible to resist or self-sabotage a script so much that you in fact execute and manifest the polar opposite of what you're trying to attract. When I was on DMSI3.01A, I noticed, albeit slowly, beautiful women manifesting themselves for me, and grew to a place of extreme happiness. Friends and coworkers were all treating me a lot more nicely, and also with a lot more respect. When I began DMSI 3.1A, I quickly experienced high-threat regular (generally daily) anxiety and panic attacks... the dream job and opportunity I had manifested as part of my growth on DMSI 3.01A turned into an absolute nightmare--a quintissential hollywood horror story--my best friend, and the only person I've felt really close with since my Dad died, had to move out of the city I was living in because he suffered his own personal tragedy (which I admittedly don't think had anything to do with DMSI), and I eventually suffered a series of mental breakdowns and anxiety attacks which led me to impulsively quit my job and move across the country back home on a total whim, since which I have never fully recovered.

I recently moved back to Southern California to pursue my dreams when DMSI 3.2 was released. I started with the B side and immediately noticed all of my old anxieties, insecurities, fears and paranoid emotions all returning at once. Since running DMSI 3.2 A on and off now for the past several months, I have been sexually assaulted by an old, disgusting gay man, sexually violated/harrassed by a disgusting elderly african american woman who was disorderly and drunk, and I have been physically attacked by an enraged taxi driver who grew upset with my friend/co-rider and eventually turned all of his physical aggression on me (For no apparent reason at all), got out of his cab, chased me onto my property and began to push me down and punch me before I was dragged away and into my home by my friends. I have seen about 3 sure-thing guaranteed job offers for me come onto the table, only to somehow get pulled away from me for no clear-cut reason ever identified. The only commonality in all of these instances is that I had been actively listening to DMSI 3.2, either A side or B side, the current day or the evening/day beforehand.

Just yesterday, after re-starting DMSI 3.2-A for about 4 days, our neighbor's schizophrenic bipolar son apparently returned into their custody. He's 450lbs, completely delusional and insane, and is obsessed with coming to our house and asking if I'm around. He's tried to gain entry into our house several times, and the family is not taking any responsibiltiy for his behavior. He's threatened my roommate because he thought he was smiling (my roommates and I are all very scared of this person and were not smiling). I legitimately fear for my safety, and the only logical connection I can make between all of the terrifying events I have lived through in the past 6 months is that I have always been running DMSI during these times.

I understand that this is a seriously loaded question, but I want to make clear that I realize that I'm trying this sub at my own risk, and that if my subconscious is indeed self-sabotaging or resisting by manifesting only insanity, danger, and violence into my life when all I want more than anything right now is financial, professional, mental and emotional security, I can stop the sub at any time and have always noticed these manifestations resolve themselves/go away after a day or two.

I don't know if what I'm suggesting is even possible--but since you've been getting (mostly) positive feedback, or at least strong growth and results, from almost everyone on this forum, I wanted to see if anyone else had experienced strong symptoms of manifesting things/people you are subconsciously/consciously afraid of in the early stages of running DMSI3.2, or if such a thing (the counter-manifestations of the script) is even theoretically possible.

Not Shannon, but I can tell you its very possible. I know on B my mind pretty much did the same tactic. It felt similar to when Shannon would talk about his "cycle". Pretty much I was constantly on an emotional roller coaster ride and anything bad that could happen would happen. It was constantly one bad thing after another. I figured out that most likely it was my mind trying to manifest bad things to use that negative energy to power resistance to the sub and in general make my mind less "stable" so I couldn't execute properly. A kind of scorched earth tactic being used.

On A I didn't notice that tactic used. What I noticed on A was that my mind played a different game. It made me generally feel nothing and care about nothing really. When I ran A long enough this turned into full blown nihilism. This was done especially towards women so that none of the snipers would activate and I'm assuming this effected manifestation somehow as well. Since I had no interest, no women would manifest because there were no women to be interested in. The only exception to this seemed to be OE pushing me to better myself in the Philippines and then it seemed I was able to execute over there to a degree. Now that I'm back I'm still noticing the same games though played with regards to local women. I just don't really have any interest and any time I have felt myself close to sniping its like something artificially comes up in my mind that is just "barely" holding it back by artificially suppressing my interest. It seems like on A the sub is powerful enough with the healing that my mind can't summon negative energy in order to feed off it to power the resistance. So it went to the tactic of just totally removing interest in anything so I won't achieve the goals.

Either way it is totally possible for your mind to be reacting this way because I noticed some of the same stuff happening, especially on version B.
On the way into town I stopped a cute dark haired girl and gave her a compliment

me "excuse me am i right in saying you have alittle persian inside of you"
girl: "yes your right I have to go now"
me: "me too but now you have completely distracted me"

I looked deep into her eyes and felt the sexual energy rise from my testicals into my eyes. It was almost like I was projecting sexual energy into her eyes she kept her eyes locked on mine saying "I really have to go i am going to be late".

I automatically knew this was her rational brain kicking in. I just kept talking to her and she began smiling then I said to her lets grab a drink. She agreed we went to a nearby bar which I have private membership too.

We sat down she grabbed a glass of wine and I ordered a water. As I wanted to remain sober if she up for a same day shag.

We drank and talked about each other I then began dropping in compliments hitting on how sexy she looked she just kept smiling. I began touching her hands smelling her hair.

We left the bar I took her for a walk then took her to an isolated spot and attempted to make out. She refused..

She was comfortable with me putting my hand around her waist and holding her hand. I attempted to escalate again but she refused to go any further. I could tell she was into me and I wanted to fuck her she could feel it. In the end nothing happened but I was pleased that the subliminal had automatically put me into "auto pilot seduction". She had to leave and meet friends for dinner.
Shannon does DMSI actually move sexual energy from the testicals to the eyes I can feel it when i gaze into a womans eyes who i really like.
Shannon does DMSI move sexual energy from the testicals to the eyes and project the energy into women's eyes ?. It's an amazing feeling.
Is it just me or am I feeling more Tlyired mentally.. Since I havnt listened to DMSI in past 2 days.. Anyone went thru this phase?
(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Cuz you are good looking ?

Aside some basic principles, PUA is so useless.
(07-11-2018, 02:54 AM)NoLimit Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Cuz you are good looking ?

Aside some basic principles, PUA is so useless.

How come I never got laid before learning PUA then?
(07-11-2018, 03:33 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-11-2018, 02:54 AM)NoLimit Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Cuz you are good looking ?

Aside some basic principles, PUA is so useless.

How come I never got laid before learning PUA then?
Sarge as i have said previously your good looking. Its not hard for guy who is an 8 to get laid with a girl who is a 5, 6 7 or 8.

How long have you been studying pua ? 3 to 4 years ? How come you were not getting laid then ?. Then DMSI 3.2 comes along then your getting laid.

DMSi i believe has cleared some crap out out of your head which was stopping you from taking strategic action to get laid. PUA is a gimmick. Do you think a fat balding guy in his 50s who has never groomed able to get laid with a girl half his age. Answer no because the moment that girl layes eyes on him she has already decided in her mind that i dont want to give him the time of day. So he will get blown out.

So no pua material in the world will help him. Unless he is celebrity.
(07-11-2018, 03:47 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-11-2018, 03:33 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-11-2018, 02:54 AM)NoLimit Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Cuz you are good looking ?

Aside some basic principles, PUA is so useless.

How come I never got laid before learning PUA then?
Sarge as i have said previously your good looking. Its not hard for guy who is an 8 to get laid with a girl who is a 5, 6 7 or 8.

How long have you been studying pua ? 3 to 4 years ? How come you were not getting laid then ?. Then DMSI 3.2 comes along then your getting laid.

DMSi i believe has cleared some crap out out of your head which was stopping you from taking strategic action to get laid. PUA is a gimmick. Do you think a fat balding guy in his 50s who has never groomed able to get laid with a girl half his age. Answer no because the moment that girl layes eyes on him she has already decided in her mind that i dont want to give him the time of day. So he will get blown out.

So no pua material in the world will help him. Unless he is celebrity.

The big breakthrough came when I learned the "push/pull" tactic. I use it on every date and it works to get makeouts and such.

It's a spectrum. The more tactics you use successfully, the more successful you will be with the girl. I know this for a fact. That fat balding guy in his 50's is, I believe, Johnny Soporno who dates pornstars so yes, it can and does work.


In sales it is the same, if you don't use the tactics right, you won't be successful on the same street where someone else who is using the tactics right will clean up. I know this because I've been that guy.


Having said that, there will always be girls/customers who will not buy no matter what, but it's not as simple as "you're good looking". I look better than my brother, for example, and yet he has a steady stream of women. So I don't buy that for a second.
LM 6G for gamblers!!!! Yes please Shannon. Right in time for football season!
(07-11-2018, 04:01 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-11-2018, 03:47 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-11-2018, 03:33 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-11-2018, 02:54 AM)NoLimit Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Cuz you are good looking ?

Aside some basic principles, PUA is so useless.

How come I never got laid before learning PUA then?
Sarge as i have said previously your good looking. Its not hard for guy who is an 8 to get laid with a girl who is a 5, 6 7 or 8.

How long have you been studying pua ? 3 to 4 years ? How come you were not getting laid then ?. Then DMSI 3.2 comes along then your getting laid.

DMSi i believe has cleared some crap out out of your head which was stopping you from taking strategic action to get laid. PUA is a gimmick. Do you think a fat balding guy in his 50s who has never groomed able to get laid with a girl half his age. Answer no because the moment that girl layes eyes on him she has already decided in her mind that i dont want to give him the time of day. So he will get blown out.

So no pua material in the world will help him. Unless he is celebrity.

The big breakthrough came when I learned the "push/pull" tactic. I use it on every date and it works to get makeouts and such.

It's a spectrum. The more tactics you use successfully, the more successful you will be with the girl. I know this for a fact. That fat balding guy in his 50's is, I believe, Johnny Soporno who dates pornstars so yes, it can and does work.


In sales it is the same, if you don't use the tactics right, you won't be successful on the same street where someone else who is using the tactics right will clean up. I know this because I've been that guy.


Having said that, there will always be girls/customers who will not buy no matter what, but it's not as simple as "you're good looking". I look better than my brother, for example, and yet he has a steady stream of women. So I don't buy that for a second.

The only reason that Johnny Soporno gets or was getting porn stars is because he worked in the adult film industry. This has nothing to do with PUA. Its like saying Justin Bieber uses PUA tactics to get women into bed.

Imagine a car going up a hill with the hand brake on. That was you before DMSI now DMSI has helped take the handbrake off and now its less of a struggle to implement these so called tactics and start getting laid.

I still standby what I said PUA material has always been a sugar coated gimmick. If it really worked why are customers purchasing DMSI ? WM and SM. Its simple because this PUA stuff does not work for them.
(07-11-2018, 04:11 AM)Rocket13 Wrote: [ -> ]LM 6G for gamblers!!!! Yes please Shannon. Right in time for football season!

That would be very cool indeed.
(07-11-2018, 04:01 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-11-2018, 03:47 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-11-2018, 03:33 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-11-2018, 02:54 AM)NoLimit Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Cuz you are good looking ?

Aside some basic principles, PUA is so useless.

How come I never got laid before learning PUA then?
Sarge as i have said previously your good looking. Its not hard for guy who is an 8 to get laid with a girl who is a 5, 6 7 or 8.

How long have you been studying pua ? 3 to 4 years ? How come you were not getting laid then ?. Then DMSI 3.2 comes along then your getting laid.

DMSi i believe has cleared some crap out out of your head which was stopping you from taking strategic action to get laid. PUA is a gimmick. Do you think a fat balding guy in his 50s who has never groomed able to get laid with a girl half his age. Answer no because the moment that girl layes eyes on him she has already decided in her mind that i dont want to give him the time of day. So he will get blown out.

So no pua material in the world will help him. Unless he is celebrity.

The big breakthrough came when I learned the "push/pull" tactic. I use it on every date and it works to get makeouts and such.

It's a spectrum. The more tactics you use successfully, the more successful you will be with the girl. I know this for a fact. That fat balding guy in his 50's is, I believe, Johnny Soporno who dates pornstars so yes, it can and does work.


In sales it is the same, if you don't use the tactics right, you won't be successful on the same street where someone else who is using the tactics right will clean up. I know this because I've been that guy.


Having said that, there will always be girls/customers who will not buy no matter what, but it's not as simple as "you're good looking". I look better than my brother, for example, and yet he has a steady stream of women. So I don't buy that for a second.

push pull is very effective. There is nothing like a good placed takeaway to spark attraction...

PUA technics aren't bad by themselves. It is when it becomes an obsession and you start neglecting other aspect of your life that it become unhealthy.

While I totally agree that being in-demand sexually and having nothing to do to get invitations is totally possible and a desirable situation... I am not a 100% sure that this can happen without not taking some action...

I have been on DMSI for a year and despite very few flings... I'm very far from having had a sex stud lifestyle. Not the program fault. I'm taking full responsability for the result. I was too absorbed by my business. You have to minimally put yourself available for something to happen... (not going out but was seeing hotties weekly at the gym. I haven't banged any of them...)

As a sidenote, I'm currently off DMSI in preparation to start AM6 on August and I must confess that some DMSI effects was starting to be taken for granted and I start to feel a difference on how I feel. Like, I'm still very confident but I don't have the iron level, superman like confidence that I was feeling while on DMSI....

If you are not in that enviable situation of being in demand, I feel like it is totally ok to spend some time to flirt. There is nothing more masculine than wanting something and taking action to get it. And like anything else, flirting is a skill that you can learn and improve... like fishing and cycling. This is where PUA literature comes in...

This is not an holy grail solution... I have seen men dedicating years in learning PUA and still not getting any simply because of who they are... but flirting skills certainly plays a role in a man's success...
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