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(06-06-2018, 06:37 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, i am around many attractive women that i would like to be sniping like the aim of dmsi is but since im not executing in anyway yet, will using masked for 7 loops eventually start allowing dmsi to execute.

That depends on variables I don't know the values of.

Quote:I dont have any dreams like others so its hard to know if im resisting or things are being worked on.

You don't need to have dreams you remember to be working on things subconsciously.

Quote:Is there any other ways to tell if resisting the script, in a healing stage or actually executing, when no external results and no changes internally to know what is happening.

It can be challenging to see from the user's perspective, but it basically boils down to what your response is over time. If you are genuinely getting no result, then you're stonewalling, which is actually a response in itself. Sometimes, and CatMan is one excellent example of this, a person can get results, and then their subconscious will try to block those results from them, invalidate them, make them seem like they're not results, deny that they are happening, create excuses as to why they're not results or not actually happening, etc. to make sure you stay where you are by not being able to connect the dots as to the progress made, and in some cases actually reversing that genuine progress by doing so.

Not many people go to this extreme, but it is possible.

Quote:Just be good to have an idea on something to look for to see if i am resisting or atleast healing something.

I suggest trying different formats. Masked may produce some interesting results, so give that a try.

Quote:Im on 3.2b for the next 12 days before back to 3.2a doing one cycle on each and back and forth.

In your situation, try to observe the difference between A side and B side, and the difference between Masked and other formats. Give each one a reasonable amount of time to examine.
Thanks for your reply shannon, i was on hybrid 3.2b for a while and then did 3.2a hybrid until recently when tried masked. Should i stay with 3.2b for 2-3 cycles before swapping back to 3.2a.

So far i did 3.2a masked trickling stream for 7 days with 7 loops, and starting 3.2b for 14 days should i try a different format after 1 cycle or stay with the same format for atleast a couple cycles before trying another format? Also should stay with a or b side for atleast 2-3 cycles?

Hybrid being the strongest do you think with the power the hybrid version has if i am stonewalling or resisting the higher loops will cause the walls to breakdown or masked will work better for me?

Thanks.
Hi Shannon,

I just read your answer in Mat422's journal regarding self esteem and the longer I listen to DMSI the more I think I really need to work on my self esteem. Therefore my question:

How much power does the SE module in DMSI have compared to the SE focus fire sub? Several times members here asked people why they did the SE focus fire sub although it is contained in DMSI. So they assumed that the module in DMSI is as powerful as listening to the SE sub itself. Is that true or can resistance to the other modules also weaken or fully block the SE module?

And if I play DMSI 3.2B for 2 loops a day while SE sub is supposed to be played 6 loops - will I need 3x longer to archive self esteem this way? I guess you will laugh about that simple maths but I have to ask it anyway.


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By the way 2 weeks ago I realised one thing that made me resist DMSI. It is fear that the aura could become permanent and that powering it all the time could slowly suck all energy out of me --> illness. So fear of illness and death made (or still makes?) me resist a sex sub. All these excuses of my mind and fears that keep me away from living a fulfilled live are not funny any more.
(06-06-2018, 07:06 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for your reply shannon, i was on hybrid 3.2b for a while and then did 3.2a hybrid until recently when tried masked. Should i stay with 3.2b for 2-3 cycles before swapping back to 3.2a.

So far i did 3.2a masked trickling stream for 7 days with 7 loops, and starting 3.2b for 14 days should i try a different format after 1 cycle or stay with the same format for atleast a couple cycles before trying another format? Also should stay with a or b side for atleast 2-3 cycles?

Hybrid being the strongest do you think with the power the hybrid version has if i am stonewalling or resisting the higher loops will cause the walls to breakdown or masked will work better for me?

Thanks.

You can't measure subliminal effectiveness by "strength" right now. The most effective format will be the one that works. "Stronger" may be too "strong" an approach for certain personality types while it works great for others; "weaker" may be too weak for some, and work great for others. It depends on personality type and why you are trying to resist.

The most powerful can is not necessarily the best commuter car. You have to use what level of "power" works best for what you are attempting to accomplish. If you resist and therefore get less effect from the hybrid format (the "most powerful") then you may find that masked works better for you, even though it is the "weakest".

I would do 1-2 cycles of B on masked and then try 1-2 cycles of A on masked and see what you notice.
(06-06-2018, 06:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-05-2018, 12:46 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]I think i really have to believe DMSI will work. Has anyon practiced developing beliefs around DMSI perhaps performing a mantra ?

No, you don't need to "believe" DMSI will work. You need to get rid of the belief that only an "evil man" would do what DMSI is trying to do. Your dreams over and over show this is the belief of your subconscious and why it is resisting.

Shannon how do i get over this and get DMSI to execute ?
(06-06-2018, 09:37 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2018, 06:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-05-2018, 12:46 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]I think i really have to believe DMSI will work. Has anyon practiced developing beliefs around DMSI perhaps performing a mantra ?

No, you don't need to "believe" DMSI will work. You need to get rid of the belief that only an "evil man" would do what DMSI is trying to do. Your dreams over and over show this is the belief of your subconscious and why it is resisting.

Shannon how do i get over this and get DMSI to execute ?

I think that good therapy will help. You can throw stones in me but my point is: most guys on this forum especially stonewallers Smile need good therapy. Shannon’s sub are really good, E2 is best thing that I ever tried, SE is quite good also. But I doubt that subs can accomplish it alone.
Dmitry your correct i will stop dmsi and begin therapy. Is CBT a good path ?
(06-06-2018, 11:14 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Dmitry your correct i will stop dmsi and begin therapy. Is CBT a good path ?

I think not. Try decent hypnosis & systemic therapy. When combined with Shannon’s subs it does miracles.
Thanks again Dmitry i think your right combining hypnosis wirh dmsi might help.
Except I specifically instruct you NOT TO DO THAT for some very good reasons, thanks for not doing it.

Once again, mixing mind programming producers and sources is DANGEROUS, and it also kills my ability to see what DMSI is doing and what I need to do to improve it.
Shannon how's ur Custom Sub going? Any updates on how much % has been completed?

Also I was wondering is it possible for u to extract the OPA, STMA script from DMSI and make it a separate Album? Like u did with MLS-5G which u extracted from BASE?
(06-06-2018, 11:14 AM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Dmitry your correct i will stop dmsi and begin therapy. Is CBT a good path ?

Dmitry I am going to take Shannons warnings and not mix hypnosis and subliminals. What you are suggesting is very dangerous.

The next step will be to stop DMSI and await the release of 3.3. Meanwhile I will look at WM and see what that can offer me. Maybe even go back to the 4G programs.
(06-06-2018, 03:03 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks again Dmitry i think your right combining hypnosis wirh dmsi might help.

Well, exactly the opposite: not during DMSI run. Therapy is good to find out why something is not working in you life. I understand Shannon not to mix subs with something but life is go on and guys need to fu@ck girls before they be 90 years old Smile

Okey, I explain.

When I run my first AM cycle I met SO MUCH resistence that WAS NOT overcame by AM. I had two variants: stop AM or undergo therapy and continue AM. I added therapy (gestalt, family constellatins etc). And it did WORKED! I was able to go through.

For me, sub are greatest motivators, focus concentrators but I doubht that subs can solve all the riddles alone.

Let’s see what 3.3 to show. If it finally bypass all the resistance then I take back all my words Smile
(06-06-2018, 10:59 PM)Dmitry Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-06-2018, 03:03 PM)thor2014 Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks again Dmitry i think your right combining hypnosis wirh dmsi might help.

Well, exactly the opposite: not during DMSI run. Therapy is good to find out why something is not working in you life. I understand Shannon not to mix subs with something but life is go on and guys need to fu@ck girls before they be 90 years old Smile

Okey, I explain.

When I run my first AM cycle I met SO MUCH resistence that WAS NOT overcame by AM. I had two variants: stop AM or undergo therapy and continue AM. I added therapy (gestalt, family constellatins etc). And it did WORKED! I was able to go through.

For me, sub are greatest motivators, focus concentrators but I doubht that subs can solve all the riddles alone.

Let’s see what 3.3 to show. If it finally bypass all the resistance then I take back all my words Smile

Dmitry you appear to speak from personal experience and i respect that. I agree its no good waiting for another 5 years to perfect dmsi. I will be 5 years older i want to f**k now.

Will pm you and discuss the options have you run wm ?
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