(01-16-2019, 02:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2019, 01:46 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2019, 11:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2019, 11:45 AM)Shawn Wrote: [ -> ]A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.
If you were to use that wording - "My goal is to have the best possible relationship with X." - then you are not specifying what type of relationship; only that it be the best it can be.
So if X has no romantic or sexual feelings for you, such a request would result in a great friendship, most likely. You are leaving the type of relationship up to X and the universe. It doesn't interfere with that person's free will or life or karma, because the best possible relationship is going to fit whatever "is" for that person and for you. There is no influencing of or taking away freedom of will or freedom of choice.
How can people rape, kill, injure, wound, steal from, hurt( physically), destroy, make sick, enslave, betray, gossip about, etc...people and yet be alive and well. The person has interfered with their victim's will by killing, enslaving, injuring, etc...them. They did in a very real way. Its realer than a thought. A thought is only as real as it is manifested.
It's MUCH worse to do something like this on a physical level than to send someone ( consciously) your desire for friendship or sex or believe a specific person loves you.
Which is worse, Ray? Stabbing someone with a knife, or stabbing them with your words? Most people would assume a knife is worse, but given the right words, the right delivery and the right pair of participants, words can do as much or more damage.
Thoughts are not "only as real as manifested", and in fact that is self evident by virtue of the fact that were that thought "not real" until it was manifest, it could not manifest!
Furthermore, thought alone isn't what we are talking about here. Thought alone isn't effective for manifestation, it requires other factors as well. And just because the damage done is not physical or obvious does not mean it was not done, not damage, not relevant or without consequences.
I know people who get away with violence against others all the time because they are committing mental and emotional violence. The common person does not recognize those things as existing, and has no real idea what damage they do. But if they did no damage, do you suppose that I would have a job?
Just because it's not obvious doesn't mean it's not there.
Dont misunderstand my words. I believe in the law of attraction. I know it is real but...
The law of attraction states that what we think we become. Yet they( coaches, mentors, etc...)give us affirmations to say in front of the mirror, to write down endless affirmations, to keep repeating them during the day, etc...To think means to think espcially by focus. Such as to consider, to make conclusions, to muse about, to ponder, to form ideas, to imagine, etc...in our minds not verbally. Then the coaches tell us, we must believe we already have what we want. But we got to know what we WANT. By definition, we have to want something yet at the same time not want it instead we need to believe it. Ah, the confusion abounds. Then they tell us, we cant take action, we need to wait for inspired action yet they fail to notice people like Thomas edision who failed 1000x before succeeding. The ultimate reason they tell us not to take action is because they think we will fail. So by definition, if we wait for inspired action we will feel amazing letting us know we will succeed. Then they tell us we need to act as if we already have it. But what happens if you want a girlfriend? Do, we have to act like we left her home when we go out because we couldnt possibly act as if we are with our girlfriend at the mall? People would look at us strange? When we watch tv, we leave a special seat next to ourselves for our girl? If that's too much perhaps we should have body language like we already have a girl. But seriously, how many types of body languages exist? And what is this " I have a girlfriend" body language?
Then they tell us we need to feel like we already got what we want yet we have never experienced it once in our lives.
What happens if your mother comes around and asks you if you have a girlfriend? Are you supposed to say " Of course, I have her. I can feel it, I do." Even the most hardcore law of attraction fan would see there is something wrong in what you are saying.
They say we cannot ask " How", we must always believe it will happen. Yet they fail to notice how businesses, ask themselves how everyday. They find ideas and then develop them. The idea may have potential in the beginning but it gets better the more they see how it performs in the real world. Then they say, we cannot want or need something because somehow the universe will not give it to us. We are told to ignore the future. We are told that our negativity is blocking manifestation and to avoid it all cost and that we must clear it all before we can successfully manifest. We are told that if we want women, we need to have great beliefs and great energies. But if we have great energy, we are exuding powerful charisma without any physical ability such as flirting, social skills, being happy, fun, etc...They then tell us that by doing all this we will trick our brains into believing we have what we want as of our brains isn't aware of what we are doing and that we are visualizing something not living it. And there is more...
Now no coach has ever said it like that but that's what it is. Thats the state of affair of the law of attraction community as of 2019. Once again I believe in LOA. I do believe it like I wrote above.
