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(11-19-2016, 05:35 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-19-2016, 04:44 PM)ImFreeman Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-19-2016, 04:16 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]Guys, if Shannon says NSFM is contradictory, it's contradictory. Let's not do this begging for NSFM so he that he feels the need to build a version including it just to prove that it will fail and shut everyone up. It's a waste of everyone's time. Let's allow him to focus on the billion other additions he has planned.

There are several users here who have not developed basic flirting skills. For them (and i consider myself included) it would be very beneficial.

Not everybody here lost their virginity in a threesome RT, some are still virgins and still very undeveloped in that department

If a situation presents itself were to take advantage of it the user needs to take some charge and make at least a little bit 'happen' then NSFM will be useful.


It contradicts the goal? maybe the goal needs to be refocused. IMHO the goal is sex abundance with high value partners. We should strive to reach it and not be 'anal' about the way we reach it

Couldn't have said it any better. In the end, we can all agree we want sexual abundance. Whatever it takes to get there, let's be more flexible about it. If NSFM helps us get there faster, Shannon will decide in his experimentations. If not, so be it.

People are so obsessed with the idea of women having to all the work (the entire approach to seduction thing), that they're being so narrow-minded regarding the addition of things like NSFM, that could potentially assist us. Remember guys, sex is a two-way effort.

If NFSM doesn't get added to 3.0.1, I would even consider switching to it for a month or so, to enhance my flirting and seduction skills (I don't know when, but some time down the track).

I'm all for Shannon having the girls approach and initiate. That's the dream right there. And if Shannon believes it can happen, then I'm all for that route. And that should be the goal.

However, I think that there should be some "training wheels" in DMSI to help the user achieve sex until the program works to the point that that's not necessary. Same way how the clearing is active and short circtuits when it's done, the training wheels should work the same way. So for example, someone who's running DMSI for the first month, he encounters numerous hot girls and not one approaches him because the healing isn't done and so the aura hasn't even kicked in. Okay, then the training wheels could have kicked in and helped him approach her if he chose to. And even when the aura has started kicking in, will the sniper be at the point that all the girls the user would like to talk to approach him? If they won't all approach him, then there should still be training wheels to help the user approach those girls that don't approach him if he chooses to.

I think training wheels would definitely be helpful for those who are asocial or shy. Unless DMSI will be able to literally have the girls approach a shy user, he mutters a few words under his breath that the girl can't even hear, and she drags him into the bathroom or to her car. If these kind of training wheels are contradictory to the program, then what about this:

What if NSFM was modified to the point of just putting the user in prime state for socializing/interacting. That's it. The user will have to speak and interact with the girls. And even though it won't help those who are socially inexperienced, it will be very helpful for those who are or who are a bit rusty.
@Shannon:

I like Steven's suggestions too.. Bro take your time. In my opinion, if it is next year, then next year it is..
(11-19-2016, 04:44 PM)ImFreeman Wrote: [ -> ][quote='RTBoss' pid='142865' dateline='1479600997']

Not everybody here lost their virginity in a threesome RT, some are still virgins and still very undeveloped in that department

Let's be fair. You forgot the part where I was seduced by both women, and the only help I had was the alcohol they fed me. I didn't have to do a thing, and I didn't have NSFM.

Anyway, I get your point. I understand the theory behind what you guys are saying. All I'm saying is, let's trust in the opinion and knowledge of the guy who writes and innovates every program we use. It's not like he didn't consider all of the angles of the request and then cross-check it with the script - a script that says things and works in ways only he knows. If he can make it work synergistically, great.
(11-19-2016, 04:44 PM)ImFreeman Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-19-2016, 04:16 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]Guys, if Shannon says NSFM is contradictory, it's contradictory. Let's not do this begging for NSFM so he that he feels the need to build a version including it just to prove that it will fail and shut everyone up. It's a waste of everyone's time. Let's allow him to focus on the billion other additions he has planned.

There are several users here who have not developed basic flirting skills. For them (and i consider myself included) it would be very beneficial.

Not everybody here lost their virginity in a threesome RT, some are still virgins and still very undeveloped in that department

If a situation presents itself were to take advantage of it the user needs to take some charge and make at least a little bit 'happen' then NSFM will be useful.


It contradicts the goal? maybe the goal needs to be refocused. IMHO the goal is sex abundance with high value partners. We should strive to reach it and not be 'anal' about the way we reach it
I'm curious what is it that NSFM does exactly?
I'm going to put my two cents into this debate, for whatever that's worth.

First, I don't think NSFM should be in DMSI. If something is contradictory to a goal, even if it helps get to the desired end-state for the user, it shouldn't be in the program. A program has a specific function, that's the reason why everyone here purchased it.

Also, the end goal of the program has not been reached yet. Adding something that is contradictory to that goal now, would be a mistake. I would understand if we reached the program's goals and then wanted to modify it to see how effective it would be, but we're not there yet.

I think NSFM should be it's own sub, probably updated to meet the requirements of what everyone wants or needs from it when they are the initiator.

Second point I wanted to raise is, I see a lot of requests from people saying to add tons of things into the program and that they don't care if they have to wait until next year for 3.0.1 to be released. That's also a mistake.

DMSI is an experimental technology. The only way to accurately measure it's effectiveness is to build, field test with trial patients, refine, and test again. There is already enough new technology going into 3.0.1 that is worth for it to be released and tested, including the sniper updates.

Packing in every little thing into one release and waiting another three months for it doesn't make sense. You'll never know what you did that made the breakthroughs like that. The effectiveness of the experiment goes awry.

Right now, there are two people's journals who I will be reading when 3.0.1 comes out, to see how effective it really is. Those two users are Catman and Swisston, because they are the two users who have had the least success. Actually, Catman had a breakthrough with 2.5, which gave Shannon a lot of data on how effective this new version was for him.

Lastly, and Shannon stated this himself, the end-goal isn't to just get DMSI to work. DMSI working according to his plans only proves what the technology is capable of. Shannon has bigger goals and quite frankly, I don't mind being a test subject for experimental subs. I'd rather be part of the trial because I can also measure how effective something is for me and how much I can change.

Keeping all of that in mind, Shannon, if you do read this, I hope you stick to your original schedule for releasing 3.0.1 and I hope you don't add NSFM into it.
(11-19-2016, 07:13 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-19-2016, 04:44 PM)ImFreeman Wrote: [ -> ][quote='RTBoss' pid='142865' dateline='1479600997']

Not everybody here lost their virginity in a threesome RT, some are still virgins and still very undeveloped in that department

Let's be fair. You forgot the part where I was seduced by both women, and the only help I had was the alcohol they fed me. I didn't have to do a thing, and I didn't have NSFM.

Anyway, I get your point. I understand the theory behind what you guys are saying. All I'm saying is, let's trust in the opinion and knowledge of the guy who writes and innovates every program we use. It's not like he didn't consider all of the angles of the request and then cross-check it with the script - a script that says things and works in ways only he knows. If he can make it work synergistically, great.

Well RT, can you blame the two women for wanting to bang you with a face like yours. Tongue
Ultimately, guys, I am going to do what is best for achieving the goals of the program. If that means adding NSFM, I will add it. If not, I won't add it. It's not like I have a personal agenda of forcing you guys to fail in this. But the goal of the program is what it is, and that is what it will stay.
(11-19-2016, 08:02 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]Well RT, can you blame the two women for wanting to bang you with a face like yours. Tongue

Haha...it's the tentacles, right? The bigger the tentacles, the bigger the testicles. Wink
(11-19-2016, 07:13 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-19-2016, 04:44 PM)ImFreeman Wrote: [ -> ][quote='RTBoss' pid='142865' dateline='1479600997']

Not everybody here lost their virginity in a threesome RT, some are still virgins and still very undeveloped in that department

Let's be fair. You forgot the part where I was seduced by both women, and the only help I had was the alcohol they fed me. I didn't have to do a thing, and I didn't have NSFM.

Anyway, I get your point. I understand the theory behind what you guys are saying. All I'm saying is, let's trust in the opinion and knowledge of the guy who writes and innovates every program we use. It's not like he didn't consider all of the angles of the request and then cross-check it with the script - a script that says things and works in ways only he knows. If he can make it work synergistically, great.

RTboss you were already a sex magnet and you didn't know about it Big Grin
Shannon, what's the difference with the hybrid format? I don't really get it. And are they recommended not for use with headphones just like normal ultrasonic?
(11-20-2016, 12:19 AM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, what's the difference with the hybrid format? I don't really get it. And are they recommended not for use with headphones just like normal ultrasonic?

Hybrid format is the ultrasonic format and one of the masked formats in one track. It allows me to effectively double the data input by using different pitch and volume channels. Since it uses ultrasonic and masked, you can use it with headphones because you can hear it. However, you'll want to be careful regardless.
(11-20-2016, 12:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Hybrid format is the ultrasonic format and one of the masked formats in one track. It allows me to effectively double the data input by using different pitch and volume channels. Since it uses ultrasonic and masked, you can use it with headphones because you can hear it. However, you'll want to be careful regardless.

Is the hybrid format an experiment for now or will it be included for all subs going forward? (sounds amazing, btw)
(11-20-2016, 12:39 AM)heavysm Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-20-2016, 12:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Hybrid format is the ultrasonic format and one of the masked formats in one track. It allows me to effectively double the data input by using different pitch and volume channels. Since it uses ultrasonic and masked, you can use it with headphones because you can hear it. However, you'll want to be careful regardless.

Is the hybrid format an experiment for now or will it be included for all subs going forward? (sounds amazing, btw)

It is no longer experimental. It will probably be standard... but, we may have to eliminate some "features" because this is getting ridiculous. I now have to create five different tracks, in two different encoding formats, per stage of each title? That's a but much.
@Shannon - can MHS benefit from much of the new tech in MIR?

What is the main difference between the two? My guess is MIR deals mainly with viral/bacterial infection level illness (micro level) and MHS with injury (broken bones etc. - macro level). But I assume they can be used somewhat interchangeably: if you had a cold, couldn't you use either?
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