(11-18-2016, 02:45 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon I'm so torn right now. I'm running DMSI and I really want to keep running to see the results it can bring and that it might help with how much money I make while busking. But my life is an absolute joke of a mess, I have no willpower, procrastinate everything, lie to people, have several addictions and I've had panic attacks that seem to come out of nowhere. I hate the idea of a whole 6 months of AM6, but I feel like maybe my problem is not traumas and emotions that need clearing but rather the way I deal with myself and my emotions so I don't know if E2 would be a good fit, but I could be wrong. I need to make changes, would it be difficult to make those changes while on dmsi because it takes a lot of personal energy and focus and puts it towards aura/sexual energy? And if so do you think AM6 or E2 would be a better fit for my issues?
Catman if you wanna chime in it'd be appreciated to, you're a self made man and you've had good results with both AM and E2 so your advice would be helpful.
Hi Rob!
I will say given your situation you've described, and given that I've used both and am a self made man as you say so I've been a self starter and have had to be doubly so during E2, E2 is without a shadow of a doubt the program for you to run. It's unbelievable. It can dig and get to things the E1 in AM6 can't, which is why it was made. Using it gave me huge changes, and that's AFTER using AM6 and all the other programs. I am so sold on E2, I got it for my brother and he is doing an ultra long term run of it, so there can't be a bigger testament to E2 than that from me!
Keep in mind, this motivation thing during E2, is because the script seems to be dealing with stuff that is unpleasant which is it's job. So the most common form of resistance as we all know is lethargy. Also, it has the emotional shielding, which is like a chill numbness demeanor while it's working on something. As long as you're aware of this, it won't get out of hand, it's not like you'll be comatose 24/7 and your life will fall apart as a direct result of using E2. It's still on YOU to live your life, but just know the program is relentlessly taking the weight off your back all along, constantly making progress.
Out of all of the programs I've used, the 3 that have given me the most clear, obvious results, both internally and more importantly with REAL life results, are: Stop Masturbating 4G (stopped a masturbation addiction that was ridiculous and way out of control and causing erection problems along side a porn addiction, so it would be a block to having actual sex so I needed it taken care of), Absolute Self Confidence 5G (direct, clear signs of confidence, was the first sub I ever used, convinced me back in September 2014 that subs were legit and I went on to buy AM6 and start my IML journey), and EHPRA 2.0 (dealt with the terrible edging addiction that was still present even after the Stop Masturbation sub, that sub dealt with the masturbation itself, but NOT with the edging, one of the recommendations I will make to Shannon when that program is remade in time).
E2. Run it, pal.
Rob, if you search E2 on the forum, you will see a few people that listen to E2 for a couple of hours a day and still get fantastic results!!
(11-18-2016, 02:48 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ]That being said the way I deal with things probably stems from gsf so maybe E2 would be a good fit, I dunno. It just doesn't seem to be helping users with things like motivation and procrastinating.
(11-18-2016, 04:37 AM)Rocket13 Wrote: [ -> ]THat's my only reason for not switching to E2, I lack motivation, I gain weight, but I Feel great on the inside.
This is why I recommend reading the journals of the people that did E2 two hours a day... they kept their motivation!!
(11-18-2016, 02:48 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ]That being said the way I deal with things probably stems from gsf so maybe E2 would be a good fit, I dunno. It just doesn't seem to be helping users with things like motivation and procrastinating.
THat's my only reason for not switching to E2, I lack motivation, I gain weight, but I Feel great on the inside.
(11-18-2016, 04:20 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2016, 02:45 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon I'm so torn right now. I'm running DMSI and I really want to keep running to see the results it can bring and that it might help with how much money I make while busking. But my life is an absolute joke of a mess, I have no willpower, procrastinate everything, lie to people, have several addictions and I've had panic attacks that seem to come out of nowhere. I hate the idea of a whole 6 months of AM6, but I feel like maybe my problem is not traumas and emotions that need clearing but rather the way I deal with myself and my emotions so I don't know if E2 would be a good fit, but I could be wrong. I need to make changes, would it be difficult to make those changes while on dmsi because it takes a lot of personal energy and focus and puts it towards aura/sexual energy? And if so do you think AM6 or E2 would be a better fit for my issues?
Catman if you wanna chime in it'd be appreciated to, you're a self made man and you've had good results with both AM and E2 so your advice would be helpful.
Hi Rob!
I will say given your situation you've described, and given that I've used both and am a self made man as you say so I've been a self starter and have had to be doubly so during E2, E2 is without a shadow of a doubt the program for you to run. It's unbelievable. It can dig and get to things the E1 in AM6 can't, which is why it was made. Using it gave me huge changes, and that's AFTER using AM6 and all the other programs. I am so sold on E2, I got it for my brother and he is doing an ultra long term run of it, so there can't be a bigger testament to E2 than that from me!
Keep in mind, this motivation thing during E2, is because the script seems to be dealing with stuff that is unpleasant which is it's job. So the most common form of resistance as we all know is lethargy. Also, it has the emotional shielding, which is like a chill numbness demeanor while it's working on something. As long as you're aware of this, it won't get out of hand, it's not like you'll be comatose 24/7 and your life will fall apart as a direct result of using E2. It's still on YOU to live your life, but just know the program is relentlessly taking the weight off your back all along, constantly making progress.
Out of all of the programs I've used, the 3 that have given me the most clear, obvious results, both internally and more importantly with REAL life results, are: Stop Masturbating 4G (stopped a masturbation addiction that was ridiculous and way out of control and causing erection problems along side a porn addiction, so it would be a block to having actual sex so I needed it taken care of), Absolute Self Confidence 5G (direct, clear signs of confidence, was the first sub I ever used, convinced me back in September 2014 that subs were legit and I went on to buy AM6 and start my IML journey), and EHPRA 2.0 (dealt with the terrible edging addiction that was still present even after the Stop Masturbation sub, that sub dealt with the masturbation itself, but NOT with the edging, one of the recommendations I will make to Shannon when that program is remade in time).
E2. Run it, pal.
Thanks dude! That's good to hear because I don't have to commit to E2 for 6 months (although I'm sure it'd be beneficial). I did run E2 for about 21 days and got decent results, but I doubt I tackled a lot of my deep gsf.
(11-18-2016, 05:32 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2016, 04:20 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2016, 02:45 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon I'm so torn right now. I'm running DMSI and I really want to keep running to see the results it can bring and that it might help with how much money I make while busking. But my life is an absolute joke of a mess, I have no willpower, procrastinate everything, lie to people, have several addictions and I've had panic attacks that seem to come out of nowhere. I hate the idea of a whole 6 months of AM6, but I feel like maybe my problem is not traumas and emotions that need clearing but rather the way I deal with myself and my emotions so I don't know if E2 would be a good fit, but I could be wrong. I need to make changes, would it be difficult to make those changes while on dmsi because it takes a lot of personal energy and focus and puts it towards aura/sexual energy? And if so do you think AM6 or E2 would be a better fit for my issues?
Catman if you wanna chime in it'd be appreciated to, you're a self made man and you've had good results with both AM and E2 so your advice would be helpful.
Hi Rob!
I will say given your situation you've described, and given that I've used both and am a self made man as you say so I've been a self starter and have had to be doubly so during E2, E2 is without a shadow of a doubt the program for you to run. It's unbelievable. It can dig and get to things the E1 in AM6 can't, which is why it was made. Using it gave me huge changes, and that's AFTER using AM6 and all the other programs. I am so sold on E2, I got it for my brother and he is doing an ultra long term run of it, so there can't be a bigger testament to E2 than that from me!
Keep in mind, this motivation thing during E2, is because the script seems to be dealing with stuff that is unpleasant which is it's job. So the most common form of resistance as we all know is lethargy. Also, it has the emotional shielding, which is like a chill numbness demeanor while it's working on something. As long as you're aware of this, it won't get out of hand, it's not like you'll be comatose 24/7 and your life will fall apart as a direct result of using E2. It's still on YOU to live your life, but just know the program is relentlessly taking the weight off your back all along, constantly making progress.
Out of all of the programs I've used, the 3 that have given me the most clear, obvious results, both internally and more importantly with REAL life results, are: Stop Masturbating 4G (stopped a masturbation addiction that was ridiculous and way out of control and causing erection problems along side a porn addiction, so it would be a block to having actual sex so I needed it taken care of), Absolute Self Confidence 5G (direct, clear signs of confidence, was the first sub I ever used, convinced me back in September 2014 that subs were legit and I went on to buy AM6 and start my IML journey), and EHPRA 2.0 (dealt with the terrible edging addiction that was still present even after the Stop Masturbation sub, that sub dealt with the masturbation itself, but NOT with the edging, one of the recommendations I will make to Shannon when that program is remade in time).
E2. Run it, pal.
Thanks dude! That's good to hear because I don't have to commit to E2 for 6 months (although I'm sure it'd be beneficial). I did run E2 for about 21 days and got decent results, but I doubt I tackled a lot of my deep gsf.
E2 is definitely a powerful sub that will help with your needs. Go for it!
(11-18-2016, 05:58 AM)Aventus45 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2016, 05:32 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2016, 04:20 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2016, 02:45 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon I'm so torn right now. I'm running DMSI and I really want to keep running to see the results it can bring and that it might help with how much money I make while busking. But my life is an absolute joke of a mess, I have no willpower, procrastinate everything, lie to people, have several addictions and I've had panic attacks that seem to come out of nowhere. I hate the idea of a whole 6 months of AM6, but I feel like maybe my problem is not traumas and emotions that need clearing but rather the way I deal with myself and my emotions so I don't know if E2 would be a good fit, but I could be wrong. I need to make changes, would it be difficult to make those changes while on dmsi because it takes a lot of personal energy and focus and puts it towards aura/sexual energy? And if so do you think AM6 or E2 would be a better fit for my issues?
Catman if you wanna chime in it'd be appreciated to, you're a self made man and you've had good results with both AM and E2 so your advice would be helpful.
Hi Rob!
I will say given your situation you've described, and given that I've used both and am a self made man as you say so I've been a self starter and have had to be doubly so during E2, E2 is without a shadow of a doubt the program for you to run. It's unbelievable. It can dig and get to things the E1 in AM6 can't, which is why it was made. Using it gave me huge changes, and that's AFTER using AM6 and all the other programs. I am so sold on E2, I got it for my brother and he is doing an ultra long term run of it, so there can't be a bigger testament to E2 than that from me!
Keep in mind, this motivation thing during E2, is because the script seems to be dealing with stuff that is unpleasant which is it's job. So the most common form of resistance as we all know is lethargy. Also, it has the emotional shielding, which is like a chill numbness demeanor while it's working on something. As long as you're aware of this, it won't get out of hand, it's not like you'll be comatose 24/7 and your life will fall apart as a direct result of using E2. It's still on YOU to live your life, but just know the program is relentlessly taking the weight off your back all along, constantly making progress.
Out of all of the programs I've used, the 3 that have given me the most clear, obvious results, both internally and more importantly with REAL life results, are: Stop Masturbating 4G (stopped a masturbation addiction that was ridiculous and way out of control and causing erection problems along side a porn addiction, so it would be a block to having actual sex so I needed it taken care of), Absolute Self Confidence 5G (direct, clear signs of confidence, was the first sub I ever used, convinced me back in September 2014 that subs were legit and I went on to buy AM6 and start my IML journey), and EHPRA 2.0 (dealt with the terrible edging addiction that was still present even after the Stop Masturbation sub, that sub dealt with the masturbation itself, but NOT with the edging, one of the recommendations I will make to Shannon when that program is remade in time).
E2. Run it, pal.
Thanks dude! That's good to hear because I don't have to commit to E2 for 6 months (although I'm sure it'd be beneficial). I did run E2 for about 21 days and got decent results, but I doubt I tackled a lot of my deep gsf.
E2 is definitely a powerful sub that will help with your needs. Go for it!
Yeah just wish it had the dmsi 5.5g extra tech.
shannon for dmsi v3 are you still putting in protection from std infected people? Personally I think it would be great if you could make it so we don't even see them in our reality.
also will the sniper actually get sex in v3 for the user or do we have to wait and see?
Shannon just wondering. Has NSFM been added into 3.0.1 yet?
(11-18-2016, 06:08 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2016, 05:58 AM)Aventus45 Wrote: [ -> ]E2 is definitely a powerful sub that will help with your needs. Go for it!
Yeah just wish it had the dmsi 5.5g extra tech.
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-8178-p...#pid141465
Get the word out and support that. I'm on the campaign trail for that very thing, lol!
#MakeE2GreatAgain
hi Shannon and all the mates here,
i have a few questions that has been bothering me in the last week, and wanted to ask for your valuable input. i hope they are not completely illogical
1. does anyone know if it is advised or not advised to listen to a tv show at the same time as i listen to the sub at the same or less volume level than Ocean Surf track on headphones? ultrasonic track is out of question because i will be using headphones, and i am not using trickling stream for the below reason.
the below questions are optional, as they are my personal experience, but i am still curious about this.
2. for some reason, trickling stream did feel weird on the first two stages of sm3 after using ocean surf for 6 months on AM6. i felt kind of down, and not having any effect on me in general. i used it for 2 months on the first two stages of sm3, but now switched back. could that be a sign that trickling stream had a more impact on me and i went through some resistance?
3. at some parts of the trickling stream, i can hear the speech track, but i dont know if the volume level of the subliminal track is the same or different between ocean surf and trickling stream. does anyone feel any difference of impact between ocean surf and trickling stream?
thanks a lot for your suggestions and responses in advance.
(11-18-2016, 06:08 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2016, 05:58 AM)Aventus45 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2016, 05:32 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2016, 04:20 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2016, 02:45 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon I'm so torn right now. I'm running DMSI and I really want to keep running to see the results it can bring and that it might help with how much money I make while busking. But my life is an absolute joke of a mess, I have no willpower, procrastinate everything, lie to people, have several addictions and I've had panic attacks that seem to come out of nowhere. I hate the idea of a whole 6 months of AM6, but I feel like maybe my problem is not traumas and emotions that need clearing but rather the way I deal with myself and my emotions so I don't know if E2 would be a good fit, but I could be wrong. I need to make changes, would it be difficult to make those changes while on dmsi because it takes a lot of personal energy and focus and puts it towards aura/sexual energy? And if so do you think AM6 or E2 would be a better fit for my issues?
Catman if you wanna chime in it'd be appreciated to, you're a self made man and you've had good results with both AM and E2 so your advice would be helpful.
Hi Rob!
I will say given your situation you've described, and given that I've used both and am a self made man as you say so I've been a self starter and have had to be doubly so during E2, E2 is without a shadow of a doubt the program for you to run. It's unbelievable. It can dig and get to things the E1 in AM6 can't, which is why it was made. Using it gave me huge changes, and that's AFTER using AM6 and all the other programs. I am so sold on E2, I got it for my brother and he is doing an ultra long term run of it, so there can't be a bigger testament to E2 than that from me!
Keep in mind, this motivation thing during E2, is because the script seems to be dealing with stuff that is unpleasant which is it's job. So the most common form of resistance as we all know is lethargy. Also, it has the emotional shielding, which is like a chill numbness demeanor while it's working on something. As long as you're aware of this, it won't get out of hand, it's not like you'll be comatose 24/7 and your life will fall apart as a direct result of using E2. It's still on YOU to live your life, but just know the program is relentlessly taking the weight off your back all along, constantly making progress.
Out of all of the programs I've used, the 3 that have given me the most clear, obvious results, both internally and more importantly with REAL life results, are: Stop Masturbating 4G (stopped a masturbation addiction that was ridiculous and way out of control and causing erection problems along side a porn addiction, so it would be a block to having actual sex so I needed it taken care of), Absolute Self Confidence 5G (direct, clear signs of confidence, was the first sub I ever used, convinced me back in September 2014 that subs were legit and I went on to buy AM6 and start my IML journey), and EHPRA 2.0 (dealt with the terrible edging addiction that was still present even after the Stop Masturbation sub, that sub dealt with the masturbation itself, but NOT with the edging, one of the recommendations I will make to Shannon when that program is remade in time).
E2. Run it, pal.
Thanks dude! That's good to hear because I don't have to commit to E2 for 6 months (although I'm sure it'd be beneficial). I did run E2 for about 21 days and got decent results, but I doubt I tackled a lot of my deep gsf.
E2 is definitely a powerful sub that will help with your needs. Go for it!
Yeah just wish it had the dmsi 5.5g extra tech.
I would gladly pay more to have that. I ran E2 for almost 90 days, and it was amazing (save for the motivation thing - I think I gained almost 20 pounds eating junk and not exercising). I can't imagine what it'd be like with all the extra tech in it.
(11-18-2016, 02:45 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon I'm so torn right now. I'm running DMSI and I really want to keep running to see the results it can bring and that it might help with how much money I make while busking. But my life is an absolute joke of a mess, I have no willpower, procrastinate everything, lie to people, have several addictions and I've had panic attacks that seem to come out of nowhere. I hate the idea of a whole 6 months of AM6, but I feel like maybe my problem is not traumas and emotions that need clearing but rather the way I deal with myself and my emotions so I don't know if E2 would be a good fit, but I could be wrong. I need to make changes, would it be difficult to make those changes while on dmsi because it takes a lot of personal energy and focus and puts it towards aura/sexual energy? And if so do you think AM6 or E2 would be a better fit for my issues?
Catman if you wanna chime in it'd be appreciated to, you're a self made man and you've had good results with both AM and E2 so your advice would be helpful.
I would also advise E2. But you have to run it long enough that it can do what it;s trying to do. Remember that it's working at a pace that enables your healing, which is determined by you; and that means it may be a slow process for some.
