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Hey Shannon,

Few questions for you:

Will we ever see the experimental sleep/awakener program? I would be satisfied with just an experimental test release with no refund.

Also, I got the aura to turn back on. The only issue is that the more the aura activates the more my PTSD like symptoms increase. As of right now when I try and sleep I hear the sounds of traumatic events in my life and can't sleep. I seem to be able to consciously will my level of energy and awareness down to where I can manage these symptoms, but I'm curious if there's a better long term strategy?

E2 didn't help with this at all and only made things more chaotic from what I can remember.
I would be willing to tough it out if there was some sort of reward at the end, but I did that for 3 months and it ended up making my waking life worse and worse due to poor decisions and all the other effects of insomnia.

My body has also completely and utterly tensed up and my hips have been driven higher and higher into my body. I basically have no butt. I do have postural problems from a long life of playing games on the computer and lacking physical exercise, but I've never experienced anything like this.

My guess is some sort of resistance. The hips and butt being primarily related to sexual function, my unconscious is trying to hide my sexuality or something?
(11-01-2016, 08:43 PM)Travis Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the info Shannon, your explanation should go into some sort of Encyclopedia Sublimina! Smile

It all makes sense now, the closest DMSI ever came to achieving 100% was with a girl I consider a flawless 10. Hotter girl -> More powerful sniper

Yeah I also agree that the most powerful sniping for me was the hottest women I've encountered in the last god knows how long.

The moment I saw her I had that magnetic attraction feeling. I couldn't stop staring into her eyes.

I also did more comfort game and sexual game with her and it was much more intense then with the other women I've encountered.

She was my perfect 10. or at least 9.5

For anyone who reads my journal i'm talking about the waitress.
Please respond to this when you get a chance, Shannon.
(10-29-2016, 03:42 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2016, 11:18 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The question is, am I willing to spend 9 hours working for a temporary goal I know won't work in the long run?

How about this. Since you already know a body fat sourced version won't further DMSI at all, you can charge the people who already purchased a version an extra $20-$30 to get access to it. Since we know it's a "long term failure", that'd be fine.

My thing is this: I'd love to still fill my mind with the DMSI clearing and positive sexy programming while at the same time have the sub powered by my body fat so I can drop the last 20 pounds. Then I'd go back to a version with "proper energy sourcing".

If it melts the fat off in a couple months or less it'd be worth it for me. How much would you like to charge us for a version like this?

Now that I think about it, maybe you could even market it as the "Preliminary DMSI" since it would help the user get in physical shape before running the full on long term version. As long as the clearing and healing has its full benefits, I think people would be interested.
Quote:and my pockets lined with money drenched with the tears of a million SJWs.

Hahahaha.

Sir, I award you the quote of the day. By far. Cool
(11-02-2016, 02:19 PM)rise Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2016, 12:58 PM)bits Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2016, 12:34 PM)rise Wrote: [ -> ]Bits did they ever find out the secret molecules in a314?

Yes, it's Androstanediol

At what concentration its hard to say

so your saying a314{rev23)+mag turned you into a greek god among all attractive women?

did they change the mag formula too or is it still the same?

I wouldn't go that far, but the women who did respond responded very strongly.

And yes the MAG formula was changed as well, the price and licensing requirements to import it into the US for public sale are too high.
(11-02-2016, 04:04 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Please respond to this when you get a chance, Shannon.
(10-29-2016, 03:42 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2016, 11:18 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The question is, am I willing to spend 9 hours working for a temporary goal I know won't work in the long run?

How about this. Since you already know a body fat sourced version won't further DMSI at all, you can charge the people who already purchased a version an extra $20-$30 to get access to it. Since we know it's a "long term failure", that'd be fine.

My thing is this: I'd love to still fill my mind with the DMSI clearing and positive sexy programming while at the same time have the sub powered by my body fat so I can drop the last 20 pounds. Then I'd go back to a version with "proper energy sourcing".

If it melts the fat off in a couple months or less it'd be worth it for me. How much would you like to charge us for a version like this?

Now that I think about it, maybe you could even market it as the "Preliminary DMSI" since it would help the user get in physical shape before running the full on long term version. As long as the clearing and healing has its full benefits, I think people would be interested.

So far I have not found any script options that succeed in using body fat as a source of fuel for this program. But it's not prevented by the current script; if your subconscious can use body fat, and it's a good/available/safe choice, it will use body fat.

In the mean time, no matter how much we might want it, unless I can find a script option that works with using body fat, it's a moot point. I spent a lot of time before building 2.5 looking for it... and got nowhere.
(11-02-2016, 06:47 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-01-2016, 04:31 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-01-2016, 03:54 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-01-2016, 03:09 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-01-2016, 02:33 PM)posh Wrote: [ -> ]you can't get it. The product got changed and now it doesn't work here the full story: http://houseofpheromones.com/androtics-d...pherotalk/

Yep...

Unbelievably epic fail...the golden ticket. Ruined.

I'll never understand that. I'm so jealous of those who owned it and used it, and STILL do. I've heard so many ridiculous stories.

Wow, seems like the Holy Grail in a lot of ways.

But surely the molecule can be procured and produced by other companies, no?

It's been tried many times and all resulted in failure. One project by someone is going on now and apparently he says he has a substitute for it. But that's in the early stages of development so I'm not holding my breath, could just be more BS talk.

For some reason they invented the greatest thing ever, truly life changing results, but then shot themselves in the foot by ruining the formula for it and it's NEVER been the same. They annoyingly always change the formulas over time, so you never know if it'll produce the same results you pay for, or better, or worse. Imagine buying subs from Shannon, paying 6G prices, but never knowing if it'll be 6G or 3G. It's prime reputation is legendary. Stuff you wouldn't even believe. I've offered a good pile of money to FIND some of it's prime revision and I can pay to send it to a high end laboratory so it's formula can be determined once and for all. It'd be incredible to test it myself, but I've never seen any and obviously people don't want to sell it so I haven't been able to get any to send to a lab to replicate it, sadly.

Well...

CatMan has the capital and business experience. Shannon has the product (for testing), a perfumery lab and a pre-existing rabid fanbase dying to buy his products. Once DMSI is complete, a pheromone like this, marketed as a "booster" or a non-subliminal version of DMSI would really generate some serious cash.

Not to mention, you've got marketers like myself, who are already successful online (just got my monthly payment from PheromoneXS yesterday), and I get PMed at least once a day from people interested in affiliate marketing, online biz.

This could be an opportunity for some "market penetration". PUN INTENDED! LOLOLOLZOLOL!!!!11

EDIT: Just to be blunt with it, I'm suggesting that you send CatMan some of your a314 so he can get it tested, then joint-venture with him to get it produced. Then, open an affiliate program for it so I can get my dick wet and my pockets lined with money drenched with the tears of a million SJWs.

I don't mind looking into this with CatMan, but I can't say if CatMan is interested. If you are, then we can see about getting you a sample of my A314 revision 23 samples, since I preserved them for exactly such a situation.
(11-02-2016, 04:46 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2016, 04:04 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Please respond to this when you get a chance, Shannon.
(10-29-2016, 03:42 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2016, 11:18 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The question is, am I willing to spend 9 hours working for a temporary goal I know won't work in the long run?

How about this. Since you already know a body fat sourced version won't further DMSI at all, you can charge the people who already purchased a version an extra $20-$30 to get access to it. Since we know it's a "long term failure", that'd be fine.

My thing is this: I'd love to still fill my mind with the DMSI clearing and positive sexy programming while at the same time have the sub powered by my body fat so I can drop the last 20 pounds. Then I'd go back to a version with "proper energy sourcing".

If it melts the fat off in a couple months or less it'd be worth it for me. How much would you like to charge us for a version like this?

Now that I think about it, maybe you could even market it as the "Preliminary DMSI" since it would help the user get in physical shape before running the full on long term version. As long as the clearing and healing has its full benefits, I think people would be interested.

So far I have not found any script options that succeed in using body fat as a source of fuel for this program. But it's not prevented by the current script; if your subconscious can use body fat, and it's a good/available/safe choice, it will use body fat.

In the mean time, no matter how much we might want it, unless I can find a script option that works with using body fat, it's a moot point. I spent a lot of time before building 2.5 looking for it... and got nowhere.

I see. Well thanks for the quick response. I hope 3.0 won't be prevented from possibly using body fat, but if it is it's completely understandable.
(11-02-2016, 04:49 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2016, 04:46 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2016, 04:04 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Please respond to this when you get a chance, Shannon.
(10-29-2016, 03:42 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2016, 11:18 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The question is, am I willing to spend 9 hours working for a temporary goal I know won't work in the long run?

How about this. Since you already know a body fat sourced version won't further DMSI at all, you can charge the people who already purchased a version an extra $20-$30 to get access to it. Since we know it's a "long term failure", that'd be fine.

My thing is this: I'd love to still fill my mind with the DMSI clearing and positive sexy programming while at the same time have the sub powered by my body fat so I can drop the last 20 pounds. Then I'd go back to a version with "proper energy sourcing".

If it melts the fat off in a couple months or less it'd be worth it for me. How much would you like to charge us for a version like this?

Now that I think about it, maybe you could even market it as the "Preliminary DMSI" since it would help the user get in physical shape before running the full on long term version. As long as the clearing and healing has its full benefits, I think people would be interested.

So far I have not found any script options that succeed in using body fat as a source of fuel for this program. But it's not prevented by the current script; if your subconscious can use body fat, and it's a good/available/safe choice, it will use body fat.

In the mean time, no matter how much we might want it, unless I can find a script option that works with using body fat, it's a moot point. I spent a lot of time before building 2.5 looking for it... and got nowhere.

I see. Well thanks for the quick response. I hope 3.0 won't be prevented from possibly using body fat, but if it is it's completely understandable.

I prefer to give the subconscious as many energy sources to use and draw from as possible so it is unlikely that anything will be specifically prevented. As long as the source of energy is safe and useful, it should be accessible.
Shannon, i read that sex magnet has sexual stamina programming to make you last longer. How is it different from the overcome premature ejaculation program? Is it the same script? Which one is more powerful if someone wants to last longer?
(11-02-2016, 08:58 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, i read that sex magnet has sexual stamina programming to make you last longer. How is it different from the overcome premature ejaculation program? Is it the same script? Which one is more powerful if someone wants to last longer?

Psychologist to uncover your sexual trauma you once had Wink
(11-02-2016, 04:47 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2016, 06:47 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-01-2016, 04:31 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-01-2016, 03:54 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-01-2016, 03:09 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Yep...

Unbelievably epic fail...the golden ticket. Ruined.

I'll never understand that. I'm so jealous of those who owned it and used it, and STILL do. I've heard so many ridiculous stories.

Wow, seems like the Holy Grail in a lot of ways.

But surely the molecule can be procured and produced by other companies, no?

It's been tried many times and all resulted in failure. One project by someone is going on now and apparently he says he has a substitute for it. But that's in the early stages of development so I'm not holding my breath, could just be more BS talk.

For some reason they invented the greatest thing ever, truly life changing results, but then shot themselves in the foot by ruining the formula for it and it's NEVER been the same. They annoyingly always change the formulas over time, so you never know if it'll produce the same results you pay for, or better, or worse. Imagine buying subs from Shannon, paying 6G prices, but never knowing if it'll be 6G or 3G. It's prime reputation is legendary. Stuff you wouldn't even believe. I've offered a good pile of money to FIND some of it's prime revision and I can pay to send it to a high end laboratory so it's formula can be determined once and for all. It'd be incredible to test it myself, but I've never seen any and obviously people don't want to sell it so I haven't been able to get any to send to a lab to replicate it, sadly.

Well...

CatMan has the capital and business experience. Shannon has the product (for testing), a perfumery lab and a pre-existing rabid fanbase dying to buy his products. Once DMSI is complete, a pheromone like this, marketed as a "booster" or a non-subliminal version of DMSI would really generate some serious cash.

Not to mention, you've got marketers like myself, who are already successful online (just got my monthly payment from PheromoneXS yesterday), and I get PMed at least once a day from people interested in affiliate marketing, online biz.

This could be an opportunity for some "market penetration". PUN INTENDED! LOLOLOLZOLOL!!!!11

EDIT: Just to be blunt with it, I'm suggesting that you send CatMan some of your a314 so he can get it tested, then joint-venture with him to get it produced. Then, open an affiliate program for it so I can get my dick wet and my pockets lined with money drenched with the tears of a million SJWs.

I don't mind looking into this with CatMan, but I can't say if CatMan is interested. If you are, then we can see about getting you a sample of my A314 revision 23 samples, since I preserved them for exactly such a situation.

Are there any phero companies/ products that are out of this world right now?
So Shannon, waaaay back in the day around here --> http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-1418-p...l#pid27291 you discussed the possibility of coming out with versions of Luck Magnifier that were more "focused" for example "Get Lucky with Money" and "Get Lucky with Women" or something to that affect. In addition, you've also got a sexually focused Ultra Success in SM3.0 (I think). Would it make sense to perhaps add something like that to DMSI or is the manifestation stuff already in it sufficient?
(11-02-2016, 08:58 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, i read that sex magnet has sexual stamina programming to make you last longer. How is it different from the overcome premature ejaculation program? Is it the same script? Which one is more powerful if someone wants to last longer?

It's been a long time since I have seen the scripts, and at least one of those is in long term archive. But if memory serves, they are not the same program, and they differed in that one was designed specifically with the rest of the script of Sex Magnet in mind - being compatible with, etc.

Which one is more powerful, I don't know, it would depend on your particular desires. I would say they're both plenty powerful in their own ways. If you're interested in just that, you would want the stand alone for focus.
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