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(09-16-2016, 06:52 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, would going above 5 loops have more powerful effects in just the healing aspect? For example 7 or 9 or 10 or even 12 loops?

If you eat 5 pounds of sugar a day instead of a few teaspoons full, is it better? If you take 10 pain pills when you need one, is that better? Does 15 sticks of butter instead of 2 per batch make a better cookie?

Too much of a good thing is no longer a good thing. Beyond 5 loops a day, most people will experience overload and the positive effects will e significantly lessened, or even lost entirely depending on how much past 5 loops you go.

In the case of programs running at this level of power especially, too much of a good thing is not a good thing.
If my self-worth is contingent on getting approval from women (specifically them showing interest/attraction) will AM6 break this and make my self-worth internally validated? If so, what stage? I'm not feeling any help at all in that direction right now.
(09-16-2016, 07:51 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-16-2016, 06:52 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, would going above 5 loops have more powerful effects in just the healing aspect? For example 7 or 9 or 10 or even 12 loops?

If you eat 5 pounds of sugar a day instead of a few teaspoons full, is it better? If you take 10 pain pills when you need one, is that better? Does 15 sticks of butter instead of 2 per batch make a better cookie?

Too much of a good thing is no longer a good thing. Beyond 5 loops a day, most people will experience overload and the positive effects will e significantly lessened, or even lost entirely depending on how much past 5 loops you go.

In the case of programs running at this level of power especially, too much of a good thing is not a good thing.

Okay, got it, haha.

By the way, for the healing aspect, does the subliminal affect the body/brain physically, such as if I am a porn or masturbation addict, and I relapse, or go into a full on binge, and dopamine receptors are desensitized (which happens in all addictions), would the subliminal speed up the normalization of the dopamine receptors, and/or any hormonal, biological, or neurological imbalances that occur as a result of such addictions, or relapses/binges?
Thinking out loud here:

Originally, being a tester and buying AOSI/DMSI was one and the same.

Then, there was the revelation there would be another level of DMSI that would require another purchase. AOSI/DMSI testing did not achieve the results initially intended, so this new level (3.0) became a "free upgrade."

There are people who could have just ran EHPRA 2.0 continuously for 8+ months (or another sub) while other people helped out to test, and they (the new purchasers) get to pay base price for 3.0 - after all the "kinks" are worked out. Meanwhile, the "testers" get a "free" upgrade. Months of helping out, but at the end of the day, pay exactly the same as someone just coming on board for the final product?

Seems off to me. Either charge people more for DMSI 3.0 to reflect all the work you've put into this, or...well, give long-term testers some kind of future testing privilege unavailable to others (or some other perk).

Frosted

3.0 will cost more because it will be in full 6g so testers effectively get a discount...
(09-17-2016, 02:49 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]3.0 will cost more because it will be in full 6g so testers effectively get a discount...

Where did you see that? Please link me to the post.
(09-17-2016, 02:48 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]Thinking out loud here:

Originally, being a tester and buying AOSI/DMSI was one and the same.

Then, there was the revelation there would be another level of DMSI that would require another purchase. AOSI/DMSI testing did not achieve the results initially intended, so this new level (3.0) became a "free upgrade."

There are people who could have just ran EHPRA 2.0 continuously for 8+ months (or another sub) while other people helped out to test, and they (the new purchasers) get to pay base price for 3.0 - after all the "kinks" are worked out. Meanwhile, the "testers" get a "free" upgrade. Months of helping out, but at the end of the day, pay exactly the same as someone just coming on board for the final product?

Seems off to me. Either charge people more for DMSI 3.0 to reflect all the work you've put into this, or...well, give long-term testers some kind of future testing privilege unavailable to others (or some other perk).

I know the E2 comment was totally about me :angel:

I do see your point though, but the thing is that this is something should have been made clear from the get go. If prices would increase as time went on, then that should have been stated. Shannon said that he will be increasing the price after the initial release of the final version once it's produced the results x amount of times over. I'll hold him to that and I think that's fair.

On the other side, I do see why testers could want an extra benefit from dedicating time to it. I'll be one to say that I'm appreciative that people like you, CatMan, Chaosvirgin, and everyone else are all a part of this and publicly posting your results. I sincerely appreciate that. At the same time, I know that I was testing DMSI right now, I'd see my reward as giving Shannon enough feedback and him upgrading and adding enough resistance-killing tech into it for me to achieve the goal of the program.

Frosted

(09-17-2016, 02:52 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-17-2016, 02:49 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]3.0 will cost more because it will be in full 6g so testers effectively get a discount...

Where did you see that? Please link me to the post.

I don't know where it is but Shannon said that 6g will probably be around 300$.
Shannon, I'd love your thoughts. I'm not getting much in the way of external results from DMSI, I get the very occasional glance or prolonged look but then the same person doesn't pay a single scrap of attention after that. I stopped listening for a few days and randomly I did get a bit more attention. A drunk girl randomly stares at me then opens me. Girl on the train glancing at me a few times.

I was listening 3 loops together during the evening, then I chuck it onto a portable speaker through the night. Speaker is estimated to last for about 5 hours. Does that mean I shouldn't be listening during the day if I'm getting potentially 8 loops?

Or is there just a lot of resistance/blocks in me that the sub needs to work through? Any way of identifying if that's the case?

Cheers!
5 loops, contiguous. It sounds like the healing is taking precedent. Resistance usually accompanied by a headache.
(09-16-2016, 07:48 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]My name is Shannon, thanks. Shortening it doesn't work.

Peripheral vision is almost entirely subconsciously absorbed information, and that makes it subliminal.

Hello Shannon, I am new here and this is my first post.

I emailed this question but was told to post it in this thread.

I came across a website saying that in subliminals, the affirmations must be in the 'You' form, not 'I'. It was trying to say that it will not help you or will not be effective because the voice in the subliminal is talking about him/herself, hence the 'I' and it is not directing the statements to you. If a stranger is telling your subconscious 'I am confident' how can it be so effective? Why not 'you are confident?'

This is a good point and I am not sure if this has been brought up before.

Can you please shed some light on this?
Most subliminals out there are in I form.
I think it's to do with the literal absorption of the script by the subconscious. "I am" would be seen by the subconscious as literally "I am", "I" as in "me" Perhaps Shannon can clarify.
(09-17-2016, 02:48 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]Thinking out loud here:

Originally, being a tester and buying AOSI/DMSI was one and the same.

Then, there was the revelation there would be another level of DMSI that would require another purchase. AOSI/DMSI testing did not achieve the results initially intended, so this new level (3.0) became a "free upgrade."

There are people who could have just ran EHPRA 2.0 continuously for 8+ months (or another sub) while other people helped out to test, and they (the new purchasers) get to pay base price for 3.0 - after all the "kinks" are worked out. Meanwhile, the "testers" get a "free" upgrade. Months of helping out, but at the end of the day, pay exactly the same as someone just coming on board for the final product?

Seems off to me. Either charge people more for DMSI 3.0 to reflect all the work you've put into this, or...well, give long-term testers some kind of future testing privilege unavailable to others (or some other perk).

I'm surprised to see you saying this.

You're getting all these different versions of the program for free after buying in, and not having to pay the increased price when I increase it. But... when I see DMSI give the desired results, I will adjust it's price accordingly.
(09-18-2016, 07:43 AM)Firas1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-16-2016, 07:48 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]My name is Shannon, thanks. Shortening it doesn't work.

Peripheral vision is almost entirely subconsciously absorbed information, and that makes it subliminal.

Hello Shannon, I am new here and this is my first post.

I emailed this question but was told to post it in this thread.

I came across a website saying that in subliminals, the affirmations must be in the 'You' form, not 'I'. It was trying to say that it will not help you or will not be effective because the voice in the subliminal is talking about him/herself, hence the 'I' and it is not directing the statements to you. If a stranger is telling your subconscious 'I am confident' how can it be so effective? Why not 'you are confident?'

This is a good point and I am not sure if this has been brought up before.

Can you please shed some light on this?
Most subliminals out there are in I form.

The facts according to realty, instead of simply playing telephone with everyone on the Internet assuming everything everyone on the Internet says must be true, is as follows:

"YOU" statements work only for people who accept direct control from others. It would be the equivalent of a hypnotist giving commands to achieve the trance state, instead of doing so in a subtle, passive way that allows the individual the illusion of control. These very same statements will be rejected, resisted and ignored by those who would require the indirect approach with a hypnotist.

"I" statements are much more acceptable, and universally so, because they work for both much better. They don't trigger "You can't tell me what to do!" responses from control freaks, and they work for everyone else as well.

The fact is, even if I use a male voice only, and I use an "I" statement, even female listeners will execute the statements because part of the process of cognition subconsciously appears intrinsically tied to execution. This is why I cannot get an "if/then" statement to work definitively so far, even after 24 years of doing this.

Of course the gender of preference is better, so I use both male and female voices whenever possible, or whenever it would not detract from the goal.

This information is based on more than a decade of research and experimentation, and observing what actually works. I used to use "YOU" statements in the beginning, because like everyone else, "I read it online". But the fact is, most of what is online about subliminal scripting is incorrect, again, as borne out by more than a decade of research and experimentation on my part.
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