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I think one stuff that should be important is that the women should feel able to approach you even with that incredible aura, if you are far above her status she won't even try. Maybe something like a genuine interest vibe would be useful if possible, appreciation of the person without neediness, charisma.
(05-26-2016, 01:39 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: [ -> ]I think one stuff that should be important is that the women should feel able to approach you even with that incredible aura, if you are far above her status she won't even try. Maybe something like a genuine interest vibe would be useful if possible, appreciation of the person without neediness, charisma.

+1.

It's already tough enough for women to wanna make the first move. I find it hard to imagine that happening. But yet again, I'm still on AM6 stage 4, so getting hit on aggressively is still far outside of my reality. I'd love to be surprised. Big Grin
I would love to have this state shifting technology happening upon approaching.
if you are approaching with the best state possible( confident, positive, not in your head...) most women will not be able to resist it and they will be immediately attracted.
i would also second what Alpha suggested , some aura that eases it for women to approach you. One of the problem we often have is that we are too much, too intimidating...particularily with women who are not very confident and not very beautiful.
and please keep it a c type subliminal as well. Or if you can even enhance it. I mean it is amazing and fun to see physical changes occuring. Perfect motivation for every user and pefect advertisement for subliminal shop:-)
(05-25-2016, 11:00 PM)heavysm Wrote: [ -> ]For Shannon...

I'm on my stage 2 and my second run of BASE but ever since February I've had a lot of emotional stuff kick up making it a bit difficult to concentrate on work.

I know EPRHA 1.0 is included in BASE, but i was wondering if switching to 2.0 would help me out OR be adverse to the momentum built up with BASE so far?

I was hoping that a few months of the second round of BASE would help things out since it has E 1.0 already, but the emotional kickback has been consistent for 4 months (general unworthiness, difficulty finding value in what I'm doing, lack of overall purpose) so I'm thinking a few months of 2.0 might help me clear things out so i can be ready for BASE again.

Also, I'm guessing that once I'm done with E 2.0 and I go back to BASE that I would start over with stage 1 rather than go on to stage 3 which is where I would have originally been at?

If you switch to 2.0, you will lose BASE momentum, of course you will. It's a completely different focus. EHPRA 1 included in the script does not mean it's the primary focus.

Yes, you would want to start over with Stage 1 after you're done.
(05-25-2016, 09:22 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not even sure how any of these would be done, or if they're practical. However, these are some of the things that would be amazing to have, in a perfect world:

1. Make women you find attractive extremely wet and horny for you just by noticing you. This effect increases the longer you are in their presence. Similar to the X series.

2. Have that aura of fame/status/irresistible sexual attraction that massive girl magnets like Justin Bieber and One Direction have. Girls go NUTS and act like thirsty little maniacs when they see them. If one girl likes them, other girls like them, it's actually an effect with a name. Like preselection, as strong as Bieber/1D gets.

3. Attractive women place you above them in status. Make them chase you extremely aggressively, epically thirsty, for dating, sex, whichever you desire. As they clearly know and feel, how rare and valuable you are and have insatiable sexual desire for you.

4. The physical changes, keeping those and enhancing them would be awesome. I've heard some guys get a more masculine jawline etc. very cool if it physically changes you, even your face, to be more in line with an ultra sexually attractive irresistible person.

5. Be absolutely fearless in dealing with attractive women in and out of the bedroom. Be a masculine leader, with no hangups or insecurities about being so. They do not intimidate you, if anything you intimidate them, since you are now above them in worth and they must prove themselves to you to be a part of your life/circle. It could be like when you're talking to an old man, or unattractive woman, where you just flow normally and there's no sense of nervousness, trying too hard and all of that, because there's no drive or interest from you. I find that tendency to make up for something in yourself, or to put on a front with women you find attractive, gets you in deep water and ruins things. So automating this process and making it seamless and natural, EXACTLY like when you interact with an unattractive person or someone you have zero interest in, will help tremendously.

6. Have a strong abundance mentality, as women are turned off by scarcity mentalities. Destroy onenitis tendencies.

7. Neediness destruction, self validation, both vital for women's attraction.

8. Outcome independent, treating dealing with women like a playful game. You are happy alone, happy with a threesome. They don't validate your sexiness or value, you do. Once the sub is internalised, there will be many options anyway.

9. Having a cool, collected, fun, flirty demeanor with women. Not getting all up in your head and ruining the vibe and psyching yourself out due to past hurts, fears, insecurities, limiting beliefs etc.

10. Having an almost arrogant level of pure, natural confidence, you are extremely high value, irresistibly sexy, and any beautiful woman would be beside herself in happiness and bliss to be yours.

11. A sense or aura, behaviour of bad boy exciting "dangerous" wildness or mystery, slightly intimidating masculine aura, causing them to be addicted to you, having sex with you, dating you, whichever you desire.

12. Remove, reject, block, any attempt to emasculate you. Past attempts that are still affecting you, present attempts in the moment, and future, to remain sexually attractive as a masculine man, in control of his power as a man.

13. Remove any instance of "nice guy" behaviour, supplicating women in any way. You are the prize, they prove themselves to you and chase you, not the other way around. Remove ANY pedestalisation of women.

14. Establish FIRM boundaries of behaviour, respect etc. of what you will accept and not accept. Being a pushover is the exact opposite of a sexy man. You have massive options, so you have very high standards she will have to meet to be a part of your life in any way.

15. Have bulletproof confidence in your body, being naked with a woman and having sex, in escalating sexually with her.

16. Include OED and OPE with any optimisations possible, to remove the potential for men getting this far with women, but having issues due to either, and not being able to make good on the goal of this program.

17. Developing a fit body, as fit as possible, as women drool over a fit, masculine looking man. This will fall in line with the purpose of this program.

18. Having a purpose in life you are good at and passionate about. Women love a man that has passion for something, and a focus that is NOT about them.

19. Treat women as someone you enjoy the company of, but never the focus or priority of your life. When this program burns in, they will be doing the lion's share of work, chasing you and seducing you, knowing your rareness and incredible value anyway. Them doing that, just further increases your rarity and value in their eyes.

20. Being fearless and natural but in a flirty, fun manner, about challenging women on things they say or do, letting them know you're a man that won't put up with nonsense, BS or bad behaviour. Not some pushover that will agree with them about anything even if we know it's wrong or against something we believe in, just for the sake of validation from them or sex. We all know how they love a challenge.

21. Approaching and flirting and getting new women attracted anywhere you see ones you like. OAA, social skills/extroversion programming here would be perfect. It's one thing to be sexy, but if guys are still stuck in "I'm too nervous to approach or flirt or talk to new women", the program can't complete it's goal. So I wanted to plug this power leak. 99% of the time, guys are expected to make the first move, and a sexy, masculine, confident man would have NO issues doing this, it'd be as natural as breathing.

22. Having a style that augments your sexiness and suits you. Most guys don't really have one, so the program should help with grooming, hair styles, clothes, shoes, etc.

Those are mine. I will edit this post if I think of more. Amazing that soon I should completely have this part of my life sorted forever in an extremely powerful way. Funny, I'm literally adding things that could be directly going into my head soon and changing me in an incredibly profound way forever. Unbelievable when you stop and think about it...

So what you're saying is, turn it into AM and SM? That's what this list reads like. Makes me think you should do E2, then an AM refresher and then SM again.

This is designed to generate an aura of sexual irresistibility for those you are sexually attracted to. There are some things in here that I can use, but most of this sounds like you'd be happier doing what I suggested above. At the risk of losing a sale here, I think you're getting excited at the prospect of a magic bullet. That's why you got so disappointed with your response to SM. There is no magic bullet, my friend, it will still require that you have the foundation. AOSI is going to make you as sexy as possible within your current framework, but it's not designed to really grow you into anything.

Are you sure you wouldn't do better with E2, AM refresher and then SM?
(05-25-2016, 10:48 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]And question: AOSI will have women (or specifically people of the gender we are sexually attracted to) approach and seduce us more aggressively right?

It's designed to make you attractive in ways that will result in responses that are as assertive, obvious and direct as possible. That may or may not be very obvious in the case of women, all women, or with regards to a man who has male pattern blindness.

Quote:And another thing Shannon, would you suggest me to use SM3 or AOSI next? I'm already at the point where I can comfortably get dates and spike sexual attraction. It's just physical escalation that's my sticking point. Which of SM3 or AOSI would get me to my goal of sex faster? Thanks. Big Grin

You probably want SM3 if you're looking for focus on physical escalation.
I would like a minimalist approach with this one. Hammer home the fundamentals of being a sexy fucker. Sexy man mindset, sexy man appearance. Leave out obvious stuff that wastes time like personal hygiene and wearing clean clothes.

I think the most important things are:

-Increased sex drive
-Increased sexual appearance + auras
-Guilt/Shame/Fear removal

And making them as PERMANENT as possible. As Shannon said, leave personal growth for the other programs. The more laser focused this is, the quicker it can take effect and the more likely it will stick, no?
(05-26-2016, 01:56 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]If you switch to 2.0, you will lose BASE momentum, of course you will. It's a completely different focus. EHPRA 1 included in the script does not mean it's the primary focus.

Yes, you would want to start over with Stage 1 after you're done.

The loss of BASE momentum isn't really the issue BUT I didn't want switching to E 2.0 to adversely affect me because BASE is a 6 stager and I know how much you emphasize finishing any multi-stage sub.

Bottom line: is the only downside of switching from BASE to E 2 losing the momentum I've gained from BASE?

Resolving the emotional tension appears far more valuable right now since it's messing up my business mind anyway.
Mainly deservedness, though that may not go with this program similar to what you said to Catman.

Quote: or with regards to a man who has male pattern blindness.

Along with this, something on being able to identify when a girl is interested and act on it. I'm definately pretty blind to these things.
Have gorgeous eyes & gorgeous smile. I guess an aura around the eyes and smile that makes them gorgeous.
That makes sense! Although it makes me wonder if you might want to have the programming a little more along the lines of "smoothly handling" dudes (or the lesser-preferred gender) hitting on you instead of repelling their interest. that way guys who are more on the bisexual spectrum can make their own decisions there.
Maybe we should start a thread with a poll about this question once and for all:

In my opinion using statement in the script to repels dudes (unwanted attention) is not helping us, quiet the opposite. One of the main issue here I think come from that western society is fearful about homosexual, especially male homosexuality. This behavior is based on fear and ignorance. It's even destructive to the heterosexual man, it gives sexual power away. First there is a part of social proof that is removed. Then there is fear from men when intimacy is involved, some are fearful to express emotion or are shameful because people will see them as gay. There is also jealousy, if men were as open as women about homosexuality women would have less control on us because we would have more choice, women would be more jealous. Women are not afraid to go full homo/bisexual and that way they gain sexual power because we are the one losing a possibility for sexual freedom.

Shannon you said that in some case you don't listen to your customer because their view are wrong, I think it's a case where education is required, being fearful about homosexuality is not a normal behavior from an Alpha male. We should be able to deal with that with an open mind. We are losing power away. A lot of guys here complain that SM3 or WM2 or AM6 or AOS is not powerful enough, this is one way to make it more powerful, that is if we are able to handle a guy hitting on us, do we want to be an alpha male or not? is an alpha male afraid to be hit by gay dudes?

if we are not able to do that, well it's disappointing
(05-24-2016, 05:48 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-24-2016, 04:49 PM)dweller94 Wrote: [ -> ]holy hell!

Shannon will the manifestation part of the script include something similar or along the lines of this:

"The beautiful women I attract now effortlessly approach me and act on their interest and attraction in obvious, aggressive and direct ways."

That was in BIATBW but wasn't included in the BIATBWS's script last time I checked, just thought I'd mention this.

Mebbe. We shall see. I'm working on the OE section right now. Haven't gotten that far.

Is that a yes then?
(05-26-2016, 03:23 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe we should start a thread with a poll about this question once and for all:

In my opinion using statement in the script to repels dudes (unwanted attention) is not helping us, quiet the opposite. One of the main issue here I think come from that western society is fearful about homosexual, especially male homosexuality. This behavior is based on fear and ignorance. It's even destructive to the heterosexual man, it gives sexual power away. First there is a part of social proof that is removed. Then there is fear from men when intimacy is involved, some are fearful to express emotion or are shameful because people will see them as gay. There is also jealousy, if men were as open as women about homosexuality women would have less control on us because we would have more choice, women would be more jealous. Women are not afraid to go full homo/bisexual and that way they gain sexual power because we are the one losing a possibility for sexual freedom.

Shannon you said that in some case you don't listen to your customer because their view are wrong, I think it's a case where education is required, being fearful about homosexuality is not a normal behavior from an Alpha male. We should be able to deal with that with an open mind. We are losing power away. A lot of guys here complain that SM3 or WM2 or AM6 or AOS is not powerful enough, this is one way to make it more powerful, that is if we are able to handle a guy hitting on us, do we want to be an alpha male or not? is an alpha male afraid to be hit by gay dudes?

if we are not able to do that, well it's disappointing

Completely agree, I'm all for removing the arbitrary so that we have the most effective and focused program possible. Having gay men not hit on you is arbitrary to the goals of the program in my eyes.

Also consider that gay men are attracted to the same masculine features as women. If you're receiving programming that tells you to repel gay men, surely the same programming will inadvertently repel women too?
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