(11-06-2016, 09:57 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2016, 09:43 PM)2Cozy Wrote: [ -> ]Was it the first date? I don’t think anything’s wrong with making a move on a girl, but you just have to gauge where she’s at, it’s kind of like your leading her through it, like reading someone a story. You just always have to watch where she’s at, if you do too much you give away too much power and she’ll get scared, if you do to little she might feel like she’s wasting her time. Not too hot, not too cold, it just has to be smooth. Don’t see her as a hot girl, just see her a person you’re getting to know, and be the best you. And relax. After a while you can do it like clockwork.
Yeah it was the first date.
And now, this is where it gets confusing and actually gives me a headache every time I try to figure this shit out. But I thought I was supposed to be able to be masculine, "impose my will", set the frame, bring the girl into my reality, and all that shit, but then there's the other aspect of "go at her pace", check in with her, make sure she's ok, etc.
So which is it? I don't get it and it drives me insane (literally. I'm probably more likely to get admitted to a mental hospital than i am to get laid at this point, only slightly joking).
I don't understand how it all works. If I didn't know better, i'd say sleeping with a girl is more an exercise of me getting her to do what she wants, than me doing what i want. 
Ok, like Chaos, I wasn't aware you were getting that much interest. Now that's squared away, like you said, let's focus on the next step.
Dating chicks and banging chicks (ONS/FWB/purely sexual) are two completely different pathways to sex. With dates, the purpose is usually to see if you are romantically compatible. The woman is not likely on the date, first and foremost, for sex. If you're looking for someone to call your girlfriend, then by all means, take this path with the awareness that sex likely won't come into the equation for some weeks - until the woman is sure your relationship is "going somewhere" or has potential for the long term.
Hooking up - different story. Meeting women (on the street, online/using an app like Tinder, bars/clubs) who are looking for just sex requires a quick chemistry-compatibility check, and quick escalation. Getting to a private place is paramount, and then from there it's about escalation. So if you say, "You wanna head back to my place?" and she says, "Yes, let's go." it's on. Once you get there, give her the tour that includes your bedroom, and position yourself to kiss her within a relatively short period of time. Some dudes literally just walk into their bedroom and hop into bed and she what she does, lol. Anyway, once you're making out, it should be smooth sailing from that to bra-and-panties on the floor, whether you're in bed, on the couch, or the kitchen table.
(11-06-2016, 09:57 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]I don't understand how it all works. If I didn't know better, i'd say sleeping with a girl is more an exercise of me getting her to do what she wants, than me doing what i want.
The story women want is "it just happened" - it's very hard to give strict rules like when she does x you do y because everyone is different but that's the general frame under which women justify sex with a new guy. "We went on a date, he was cool, we went back to his place
JUST to watch tv/eat/get a drink/etc, the chemistry was great and it just sort of happened"
If I were to give you a "rule" it would be this - have fun on the date and don't escalate beyond quick pecks until she's back at your place. I know it's "reality tv" but this is probably the best example on camera:
@6:15
He took the date slow, went in for a quick kiss, pulled back, pretended like it was the end of their date and he would call her, walked back to the room to say goodbye, then started escalating.
If most PUA coaches saw him they would be screaming "BETA CHODE!, SHOW INTENT, NEG HER, DISQUALIFY HER, ESCALATE ESCALATE ESCALATE!!!" Most guys would be better off throwing out 90% of PUA material - especially if they're using subliminals or mones.
@sarge
It's not going to take "some weeks" to get to sex if you do it the way I said. 2-3 weeks tops. Plus I don't think attractive girls will be on tinder DTF. I've seen the girls on tinder, they're pathetic.
Since when did my thread become the WWF Dating Channel?
(11-07-2016, 05:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Since when did my thread become the WWF Dating Channel?
That's what happens when you're on hiatus for too long.
The DMSIs without clearing modules do seem to have a tendency to make people restless.
(11-07-2016, 05:50 AM)2Cozy Wrote: [ -> ] (11-07-2016, 05:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Since when did my thread become the WWF Dating Channel?
That's what happens when you're on hiatus for too long.
I have been having a hard time getting enough sleep lately. Something is draining my energy at an alarming rate. I'm averaging 4-6 hours awake per day. It's hard to be productive when you're expecting 12+ and you just suddenly drop from exhaustion after 4 or 6.
I slept from 7:30 PM last night to 7:30 am, for example. It's 9:30 and I'm already feeling tired again.
So it's not so much trying to disappear as trying to figure out what's going on and get enough sleep.
(11-07-2016, 06:30 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I'd like to cause it to trigger them not just sexually, but in all the ways that person needs to respond by initiating and having sex with the user. I think this is a big issue right now - it's lopsided. Too much sexual and not enough of whatever else is needed and desired.
I'm feeling good about this, trigger all forms of (attraction?) whatever, that will lead to sex
(11-07-2016, 07:43 AM)dweller94 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-07-2016, 06:30 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I'd like to cause it to trigger them not just sexually, but in all the ways that person needs to respond by initiating and having sex with the user. I think this is a big issue right now - it's lopsided. Too much sexual and not enough of whatever else is needed and desired.
I'm feeling good about this, trigger all forms of (attraction?) whatever, that will lead to sex
If I can figure out how to word it... the grammar is ridiculous.
So I found a statement in the AOSI tuning section that had some of what was necessary, but not all of it, and I added it. Looking good. It actually uses polymorphic scripting to determine what each person needs to experience to move forward, this should be good.
A couple things Shannon. First off, congrats on your recent epiphany concerning sexual safeness. I had someone explain something similar to me except they used the analogy of an airplane pilot. Basically, if you got on an airplane and looked into the cockpit and saw two blind pilots you would feel unsafe. On the other hand, if you saw two pilots talking the pilot lingo and moving their hands and body with confidence, you would feel safe. That safeness motivates you to get on that plane and relax.
Number two, have you considered perhaps interviewing/questioning any females you are close to and pick their brains on instances where they approached a male and see if you can gather more info? I'm sure some of the guys around here could perhaps do the same. If you've done this already, then disregard this paragraph.
Number 3, for those of us who purchased DMSI can we request one of the older versions talking specifically about V1)?
Hey Shannon, I asked you this in my journal but I figure I might catch you here. It's been a while since I've run AM and I'm thinking it would do me some good. I only have 5.0 at the moment, haven't been able to buy 6 yet. Having said that I'm taking a break from E2. What's your opinion on 5.0? I can't remember where you stood on it because 5.0 was supposed to be the last one. Anyway it was either that or ASC. I'm leaning more towards ASC to see if maybe it can help me land a better job and then from there buy AM6. But I wanted to know your opinion. Especially since I've grown so accustomed to the 5G tech.
(11-07-2016, 08:36 AM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]A couple things Shannon. First off, congrats on your recent epiphany concerning sexual safeness. I had someone explain something similar to me except they used the analogy of an airplane pilot. Basically, if you got on an airplane and looked into the cockpit and saw two blind pilots you would feel unsafe. On the other hand, if you saw two pilots talking the pilot lingo and moving their hands and body with confidence, you would feel safe. That safeness motivates you to get on that plane and relax.
Number two, have you considered perhaps interviewing/questioning any females you are close to and pick their brains on instances where they approached a male and see if you can gather more info? I'm sure some of the guys around here could perhaps do the same. If you've done this already, then disregard this paragraph.
Number 3, for those of us who purchased DMSI can we request one of the older versions talking specifically about V1)?
I don't mind you guys having access to V1, if Ben is willing to link it up as an add on to the current 2.5. I would actually like to see how you think it compares to 2.4/2.5.