(02-21-2016, 06:53 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (02-21-2016, 02:52 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]BIATBWS, instead of BIATBW, in my opinion.
Yeah, to use BIATBW to mold with DAOS instead of BIATBWS makes no sense.
That new program, BIATBWS+DAOS 5G, improved to the latest standard of course, sounds very appealing!
(02-21-2016, 05:39 PM)essy Wrote: [ -> ] (02-21-2016, 03:00 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2016, 07:23 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]But after thinking about it, I think perhaps running EHPRA 2.0 may also be a good idea for you, as it seems this is all the result of emotional damage or trauma caused by the females you experienced early in life. So my recommendation is, a month of OF5G and then a month of EHPRA 2.0, repeated until you think you can handle SM. Then run a month of AM6 refresher and then SM3 or 4, if it's out at the time.
Why do you recommend alternating subs? I haven't seen you recommend an approach like this before. It seems more interesting to do, but would you not lose momemtum if not "committing" like that?
Upvote
Hey guys, in this, I think Shannon's thought process was if I've had such a damaging emotional past with girls, dealing with some fear, and then doing some emotional work, would allow me to progress with my unique problem of high fear + emotional issues the fastest and the most productive.
However, with my latest journal entry, I may have finally started to get some progress in this area. So such a plan may not be needed anymore due to OF finally starting to punch through.
I'm surprised it took so long, even for OF5G, even at such high hours and volume, to start making an impact. But, we all come from a different past and have to deal with it as best we can along our journey!
Looks like finally I'm starting to punch through and overcome my past...
I still think EHPRA 2.0 will be a good call, and I stand by my recommendation of alternating the two.
(02-21-2016, 07:22 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ] (02-21-2016, 07:12 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (02-21-2016, 07:05 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]BIATBWS+DAOS 5G looks VERY appealling. I could start using the 4G version of BIATBWS right now actually, but I wanna be patient and work towards the SM3, which is way more powerful. I hate waiting haha.
Yes, it's looking like it could be an amazing single stage program.
Stick to AM6, yeah, if you have to redo it before moving onto a magnet, no problem. Don't forget, AM6 has modules in there for attracting women too, not only magnets have attraction stuff. Also, AM6 "naturally" attracts women, just by making you a dominant, self reliant, emotionally healthy man. Don't commit mentally NOW to doing a magnet after as I've said before. You don't know how the AM6 run will end up, you may need more time on it. You may either disappoint yourself by pushing ahead when you don't have enough AM6 bulletpoints and having a bad magnet run. Or feeling disappointed when you find your foundation isn't solid enough to push onward when going through the AM6 sales page bulletpoints when done your run and you were mentally lusting after a magnet.
Just run AM6 and be comfortable knowing it's an amazing all-in-one program. you're firmly on the path now, friend!
Thanks dude. Actually going through the AM6 bullet points, I have already ticked off the majority of them. This is what cold-approaching did for me for the past year. 1000+ approaches. I forced myself to face my fears and I'm growing at an exponential rate. I'm definitely ready to start SM3 in August. 
I hope you have done AM6 before you do SM3. Just deciding you're ready based on believing you have the bullet points won't work. There are good reasons we require AM before SM.
(02-22-2016, 01:05 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (02-21-2016, 07:22 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ] (02-21-2016, 07:12 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (02-21-2016, 07:05 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ]BIATBWS+DAOS 5G looks VERY appealling. I could start using the 4G version of BIATBWS right now actually, but I wanna be patient and work towards the SM3, which is way more powerful. I hate waiting haha.
Yes, it's looking like it could be an amazing single stage program.
Stick to AM6, yeah, if you have to redo it before moving onto a magnet, no problem. Don't forget, AM6 has modules in there for attracting women too, not only magnets have attraction stuff. Also, AM6 "naturally" attracts women, just by making you a dominant, self reliant, emotionally healthy man. Don't commit mentally NOW to doing a magnet after as I've said before. You don't know how the AM6 run will end up, you may need more time on it. You may either disappoint yourself by pushing ahead when you don't have enough AM6 bulletpoints and having a bad magnet run. Or feeling disappointed when you find your foundation isn't solid enough to push onward when going through the AM6 sales page bulletpoints when done your run and you were mentally lusting after a magnet.
Just run AM6 and be comfortable knowing it's an amazing all-in-one program. you're firmly on the path now, friend!
Thanks dude. Actually going through the AM6 bullet points, I have already ticked off the majority of them. This is what cold-approaching did for me for the past year. 1000+ approaches. I forced myself to face my fears and I'm growing at an exponential rate. I'm definitely ready to start SM3 in August.
I hope you have done AM6 before you do SM3. Just deciding you're ready based on believing you have the bullet points won't work. There are good reasons we require AM before SM.
Yep, I'm starting stage 2 of AM6 tomorrow. So far it's going really well.
Hey Shannon, in the sales page of OGSF 5G you say the program's designed to replace guilt, shame and fear with their opposites. What are they?
(02-22-2016, 01:09 AM)bliss Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, in the sales page of OGSF 5G you say the program's designed to replace guilt, shame and fear with their opposites. What are they?
Your subconscious knows what they are, and that's really all that matters. I have come to the conclusion that the subconscious works with emotions in ways that we don't consciously recognize, which would be analogous to visually representing it as a concentration of energy that has a specific vibration and thus a specific color. In such an analogy, you could think of it along the lines of, if you invert the color, you invert the energy. It's of course not exactly like that, as inverting the literal waveform of light does not give darkness, nor adjusting red to green give a reversal of waveform either. But the analogy works; we don't consciously have to know the answer. The subconscious does.
Now that said, according to me (and I reserve the right to be wrong) the reverse of guilt is joy, the reverse of shame is happiness and the reverse of fear is love.
Really I am only confident on the reverse of fear being love. But the other two seem to make sense, as they are what results when guilt and shame are taken away.
I'm pretty surprised with how excited I am over starting EPRHA 2.0 when it's finished. I'll be starting me and my girlfriend on it basically the day it's done (2 purchases as we don't live together unfortunately haha). I've already done the free version of EPRHA and I felt it was worthwhile, but seeing all of the bells and whistles added into 2.0 is really making me think it is one of the better programs you have available. Just that followed up with AM or AF looks like it'll help change a person into a totally different and positive version of who they are.
The synochrity of the sub coming out for both me and my girlfriend as I was about to start us down a slightly different route is a very pleasant surprise, as I hadn't looked into the 2.0 version at all until this last week or so when it popped up on my radar. Thank you for all of the work you're putting into this.
My goal with it is to make it useful for people with combat related PTSD and domestic trauma PTSD such as might be experienced from severe physical, emotional, verbal or sexual abuse. If I can do that, it should be good for everybody. That's why I'm putting in so much work: I want it to be useful to everybody, including our military vets and people who have been through severe abuse and traumatic experiences like rape.
(02-22-2016, 07:55 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]My goal with it is to make it useful for people with combat related PTSD and domestic trauma PTSD such as might be experienced from severe physical, emotional, verbal or sexual abuse. If I can do that, it should be good for everybody. That's why I'm putting in so much work: I want it to be useful to everybody, including our military vets and people who have been through severe abuse and traumatic experiences like rape.
This program sounds like it is going to be total epic experience when it is finally released! Plus, I like how you are adding things in it to help out military personnel and offering at only $89! Which is a steal with all the stuff you are putting into it.
Imagine the people who run this program for six months to a year and then run the current version of AM afterwards?! I wonder what kind of results would occur if going this route?
I wonder what the surprise is in EPRHA 2.0. Man I hate waiting for surprises lol
(02-22-2016, 08:39 AM)spiritman Wrote: [ -> ]This program sounds like it is going to be total epic experience when it is finally released! Plus, I like how you are adding things in it to help out military personnel and offering at only $89! Which is a steal with all the stuff you are putting into it.
Imagine the people who run this program for six months to a year and then run the current version of AM afterwards?! I wonder what kind of results would occur if going this route?
That's exactly my plan. I'll let you know a year to a year and a half from now
(02-22-2016, 12:53 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (02-21-2016, 03:00 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ] (02-20-2016, 07:23 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]But after thinking about it, I think perhaps running EHPRA 2.0 may also be a good idea for you, as it seems this is all the result of emotional damage or trauma caused by the females you experienced early in life. So my recommendation is, a month of OF5G and then a month of EHPRA 2.0, repeated until you think you can handle SM. Then run a month of AM6 refresher and then SM3 or 4, if it's out at the time.
Why do you recommend alternating vs. e.g. 3+3 months? I haven't seen you recommend an approach like this before. It seems more interesting to do, but would you not lose momemtum if not "committing" like that?
It is an approach that makes sense given that:
A) CatMan has already started a run of OF5G, and he can't jump from sub to sub too quickly without wasting time;
B) EHPRA 2.0 has OGSF 5G in it, which is expenanding and supporting OF 5G;
C) EHPRA 2.0 will take care of a number of issues that OF5G won't, which I believe CatMan needs to deal with concerning his experiences earlier in life regarding females.
D) The alternation of healing and fear removal will probably be the fastest way forward for him. Otherwise I would recommend that after a month of OF5G he switch to EHPRA 2.0 full time.
But if he did switch to EPRHA 2.0 full time, can you estimate how much longer it would take for those fears to be removed?
(02-22-2016, 01:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I will tell you this. During my break yesterday, I started tinkering with creating an active manifestation script. At the moment it's aimed at manifesting one's perfect lifelong friends with benefits relationship with a stunningly beautiful woman, but that may change if I conclude that it is not really feasible.
BOOM! Now THAT would be awesome addition to the future line of relationship related manifestation subs, and great partly script to include to sub such as the ultimate non-monogamous bad ass program I suggested
HERE (to which you replied you have been thinking to possibly build something similar to that in the future...). I know we are looking into the long distant and not crystal clear future here, but just to get the creative juices flowing...which I´m sure you already have up to your nose already but hey, creative juices never killed anyone as far as I know. But even by itself manifesting lifelong FWB with SBW would be a great one.
(02-22-2016, 10:54 AM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]That's exactly my plan. I'll let you know a year to a year and a half from now
That will make two of us who will be doing this. It will be interesting to see how my results will turn out with AM/SM3. After running EPHRA 2.0 for six months to a year.
(02-22-2016, 11:01 AM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]But if he did switch to EPRHA 2.0 full time, can you estimate how much longer it would take for those fears to be removed?
That's probably impossible to tell, obviously.
However, I've seen some signs OF5G is breaking through as of this past weekend. So, some small progress is happening.
I don't want to start doing too many programs, as I want to use AM/SM again soon. It's already been FAR longer than the recommended "use them once a year for the first 3 years" mantra Shannon mentions in the manuals. To follow that timetable, that'd mean in October 2015, I'd be rerunning AM6. It's February 2016 now and still no start of AM6, so I don't want to let it go much longer before rerunning to keep moving forward. I don't want too much more time to lapse before rerunning to minimise any further fade of the programming.
I think I may have to run OF5G for awhile longer, and then go back into AM6 with even HIGHER hours than before. I've even considered a 32 day refresher of AM6 and then a full rerun of SM3 at even higher hours than the last run as well. I don't want to fall further behind the recommended guidelines is all.