Subliminal Talk

(11-09-2015, 04:18 PM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-09-2015, 03:14 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-09-2015, 12:01 PM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, is there a way to make it so OF 5g only gets rid of unnecessary and unhealthy fears? This is the only problem I see with this sub and OGSF. There is a reason we have these negative emotions. Its when they become unhealthy that they are bad. The emotions themselves are not to blame. If I run this sub and have no more fears that is very dangerous and unhealthy.

All fears are unhealthy and unnecessary.

Think about this. There are two major parts of your brain. The lower, instinctual part, and the higher, cognitive part. ALL fears originate with and from the lizard brain. The higher brain is not responsible for these, as far as I know.

Therefore, you could say that our higher brains are striving to outgrow fear based reactions through logic and knowledge.

Fear is only helpful if it is keeping you safe, but if you have the ability to THINK, then you don't need fear to keep you safe. You can think and that will do a fine job all by itself.

For example, if I point a loaded gun at my own head, I have a fear response because I don't want to die. This is my instinctual self telling me, "Danger!" But I already know the gun is a potentially deadly object and anyone who knows the rules of gun safety (always treat all guns as if are always loaded!) knows better than to point the gun at themselves or anyone else, loaded or not (never point a muzzle at anything you do not wish to destroy). Therefore, fear of the gun or pointing it at my head does no good because I already have a higher reasoning and understanding of the dangers involved. Removing that fear of doing so does not remove my knowledge that the gun is a gun, and that the rules of gun safety state that I should treat all guns as if they are always loaded, and to never point the muzzle of the gun at anything I do not wish to destroy.

Fear is not useful for the thinking person. It is a hindrance that can be left behind and leaving it behind allows one to act more freely, and take direct personal responsibility for their actions and choices.

So running a sub that dissolves and frees you from your fears is not unhealthy or bad; it's simply requiring you to take personal responsibility for the freedoms that it gives you. You can think, and as an adult, you can certainly handle personal responsibility. Thus... no problem.

I get your point about being able to think for yourself without fear but fear isn't completely irrelevant yet. What you are talking about is valid and I don't want to be controlled by fear, but I think there are still cases where fear is relevant. If a gun is pointed to your head, fear wont help that situation. But if you are going to get hit by a train or you step on a snake fear jerks you out of harms way before you even have time to think. Thats the point. In situations where you don't have time to think fear will save your life. I forget the quote but its something like "only fools don't feel fear". Also thinking can't motivate you like an emotion can. Sure you can know logically that the tiger is going to eat you, but even if you decide to run you aren't throwing every fiber of your being into it because you are not motivated by fear.

Also I also think guilt and shame are definitely relevant too. At unhealthy levels and inappropriate times these emotions are bad, but they are important emotions. I took this off of a website: healthy shame describes the feeling of: “I have done something that goes against my core values and beliefs, and I feel badly about that,” while toxic shame describes the feeling of: “I am inherently flawed and defective and therefore unworthy of love and belonging.” MASSIVE difference. Taking completely away negative emotions is a bad thing.

I think (I think, I'm not sure), fear is the root of shame and guilt though. Destroy fear's power over you, and shame and guilt will have nothing to grip onto you with.

Humbly requesting AYP Wealthy Lover and AYP Large Breasted Lover. Thank you Shannon for all your hard work.

(11-09-2015, 04:18 PM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-09-2015, 03:14 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-09-2015, 12:01 PM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, is there a way to make it so OF 5g only gets rid of unnecessary and unhealthy fears? This is the only problem I see with this sub and OGSF. There is a reason we have these negative emotions. Its when they become unhealthy that they are bad. The emotions themselves are not to blame. If I run this sub and have no more fears that is very dangerous and unhealthy.

All fears are unhealthy and unnecessary.

Think about this. There are two major parts of your brain. The lower, instinctual part, and the higher, cognitive part. ALL fears originate with and from the lizard brain. The higher brain is not responsible for these, as far as I know.

Therefore, you could say that our higher brains are striving to outgrow fear based reactions through logic and knowledge.

Fear is only helpful if it is keeping you safe, but if you have the ability to THINK, then you don't need fear to keep you safe. You can think and that will do a fine job all by itself.

For example, if I point a loaded gun at my own head, I have a fear response because I don't want to die. This is my instinctual self telling me, "Danger!" But I already know the gun is a potentially deadly object and anyone who knows the rules of gun safety (always treat all guns as if are always loaded!) knows better than to point the gun at themselves or anyone else, loaded or not (never point a muzzle at anything you do not wish to destroy). Therefore, fear of the gun or pointing it at my head does no good because I already have a higher reasoning and understanding of the dangers involved. Removing that fear of doing so does not remove my knowledge that the gun is a gun, and that the rules of gun safety state that I should treat all guns as if they are always loaded, and to never point the muzzle of the gun at anything I do not wish to destroy.

Fear is not useful for the thinking person. It is a hindrance that can be left behind and leaving it behind allows one to act more freely, and take direct personal responsibility for their actions and choices.

So running a sub that dissolves and frees you from your fears is not unhealthy or bad; it's simply requiring you to take personal responsibility for the freedoms that it gives you. You can think, and as an adult, you can certainly handle personal responsibility. Thus... no problem.

I get your point about being able to think for yourself without fear but fear isn't completely irrelevant yet. What you are talking about is valid and I don't want to be controlled by fear, but I think there are still cases where fear is relevant. If a gun is pointed to your head, fear wont help that situation. But if you are going to get hit by a train or you step on a snake fear jerks you out of harms way before you even have time to think. Thats the point. In situations where you don't have time to think fear will save your life. I forget the quote but its something like "only fools don't feel fear". Also thinking can't motivate you like an emotion can. Sure you can know logically that the tiger is going to eat you, but even if you decide to run you aren't throwing every fiber of your being into it because you are not motivated by fear.

Also I also think guilt and shame are definitely relevant too. At unhealthy levels and inappropriate times these emotions are bad, but they are important emotions. I took this off of a website: healthy shame describes the feeling of: “I have done something that goes against my core values and beliefs, and I feel badly about that,” while toxic shame describes the feeling of: “I am inherently flawed and defective and therefore unworthy of love and belonging.” MASSIVE difference. Taking completely away negative emotions is a bad thing.

You must not understand that fears don't correlate to ANS functions. If you run OF and get rid of your fears it won't change that when you touch a hot pot you will move immediately. Also Bhuddist monks live without fear. I don't see nothing wrong happening to them. As a matter of fact due to them not having fear animals don't attack them and they can control snakes due to the fact that animals attack you based on sensing fear. Like I have a fear of dogs and dogs always try to come at me.

(11-09-2015, 10:54 AM)AlphaMind Wrote: [ -> ]

• Attract your Perfect Wealthy Lover
  
• Attract your Perfect Harem
  

Done

I love the Perfect Harem idea. It would need to be hashed our here first.

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I get your point about being able to think for yourself without fear but fear isn't completely irrelevant yet. What you are talking about is valid and I don't want to be controlled by fear, but I think there are still cases where fear is relevant. If a gun is pointed to your head, fear wont help that situation.

Sure it will. Fear keeps people from pointing guns to their head, right? Fear keeps people from allowing others to casually point guns at them, right? (Or at least moving away).

Quote:But if you are going to get hit by a train or you step on a snake fear jerks you out of harms way before you even have time to think. Thats the point.

Fear has nothing to do with that. That's an automatic response of your nervous system designed to keep you from harm, but fear is not involved. You don't have time to fear. That response, fear, comes from the brain, but if memory serves, the response you're talking about actually never comes from the brain. If memory serves, it comes from the spinal cord, which triggers reaction faster than what the brain could. The brain then receives the message a split second later, but that split second later does not take into account the time it takes for your brain to propagate the message to the proper parts, process it, and send a response. Fear is a reaction of consciousness of some threat; I'm pretty sure the response you're referring to is a nervous reaction without thought.

Quote:In situations where you don't have time to think fear will save your life. I forget the quote but its something like "only fools don't feel fear". Also thinking can't motivate you like an emotion can. Sure you can know logically that the tiger is going to eat you, but even if you decide to run you aren't throwing every fiber of your being into it because you are not motivated by fear.

I can make up quotes to fit my argument all day long. Here's an example. "Only fools feel fear when they have better options." - Me. That doesn't make the argument more valid.

As for thinking motivating you like emotion, it's a matter of desire and decision. Whether it comes from emotion or logic is generally irrelevant; the desire and decision is what matters. It just happens that the subconscious mind tends to rule that matter, and the subconscious mind is generally emotional in nature. So if I know a tiger is going to eat me unless I run like the wind, but I have no fear, will I run less fast? Hardly. I'll run just as fast, because my desire to stay alive is still the same. It's not a matter of logic being an insufficient motivator.

Quote:Also I also think guilt and shame are definitely relevant too. At unhealthy levels and inappropriate times these emotions are bad, but they are important emotions. I took this off of a website: healthy shame describes the feeling of: “I have done something that goes against my core values and beliefs, and I feel badly about that,” while toxic shame describes the feeling of: “I am inherently flawed and defective and therefore unworthy of love and belonging.” MASSIVE difference. Taking completely away negative emotions is a bad thing.

The difference between having to rely on shame, guilt and fear to make the right choices and do the right things in life, versus thinking and logic, is generally going to boil down to the maturity of the individual. This is easily observed with children. A child does not yet have a logical understanding that if they touch a hot stove, it will hurt. Fear is useful in that situation, because their ability to think and their brain are not yet fully developed. But once they can think and that brain is developed sufficiently, does it matter if they fear the pain, as long as they are aware what pain is, and know that burning flesh causes them pain?

Doing something that goes against your core values and beliefs means that some part of you did not hold those "core values and beliefs" and acted without them. The solution is not guilt, shame and fear; the solution is having the maturity to fully accept that set of beliefs and LIVE BY IT.

It's just like honesty. Most guys have a real hard time being honest to women, because they know that in the short term, they can potentially gain sex from lying. But the backlash is that the women they encounter learn to distrust them and males in general, and thus that benefit is neutralized by the additional challenge she presents to compensate. Then you just have people lying to each other, when being honest would save everyone a lot of problems. I have a friend who has marveled at the life I live because I am honest, and she commented once that she wished she could have the same. I asked her why she couldn't, and she told me that it wouldn't be possible to be as honest as I am. The fact of the matter is, being honest forces you to live correctly, in ways that allow for honesty to be painless, and makes you a better person all around. But she was too afraid to be honest because she couldn't handle that, so saying one thing and doing another was the only option she could see.

Guilt, shame and fear are useful for the unintelligent and the immature, but we are outgrowing those times and those things that made them useful. Now they will become increasingly useless shackles that simply hold us back from achieving our true potential because we can think, and we do have the capacity for making mature and intelligent choices and decisions. Relying on guilt, shame and fear to make things right is just a cop-out.

Taking away all negative emotions leaves us with only positive emotions, like happiness, love, gratitude and peacefulness. And there is no way that could be a bad thing.

Since we are only talking about sexual lovers here, AYP Dominant Sexual Lover and Submissive Sexual Lover would be great.

i only wish to have the ayps be improved in speed (60-90 days is really fast as seen from 4kingdom's journal so thats definitely very awesome). Whatever Shannon makes, I'll be happy with just as long as the result appears faster than 6-8 months (which is the typical manifestation speed for a 4g ayp).

Just wanted to add, I also second the Attract your perfect financially wealthy Sexual lover idea

Some more ideas,

AYP Middle-Aged Sexual Lover
AYP Swinger Sexual Lover
AYP Gorgeous Sexual Lover

So since it's only sexual lover, then how about

AYP Hispanic Sexual Lover 5G
AYP Naturally Platinum Blonde Sexual Lover 5G
AYP Naturally Raven Haired Sexual Lover 5G
AYP MILF Sexual Lover 5G (or however you'd like to phrase it)

Also, if they could be focused on manifesting multiples that would only be better.

After upgrading OF and the AYP which will probably take 3-6 months, can you update Anger management, Ultra Success, And ultra motivation.

I'm not planning on spending a lot of time building these because they're not very important. Since it takes about a day per, please guys, try to consolidate the top five that you want.

Now building: Manifest Your Perfect Mixed Race Sexual Lover.

Next up: Manifest Your Perfect Naturally Redheaded Sexual Lover. Manifest Your Perfect Sexual Friend With Benefits

Might be able to build both tonight. I had forgotten how fast these very short scripts can be built, even in 5G.

The prototype is so long that it takes me days and sometimes weeks to make a single significant adjustment, and then 8 to 12 hours to build it in one stage. These small scripts are a nice change of pace.

(11-09-2015, 07:26 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Now building: Manifest Your Perfect Mixed Race Sexual Lover.

Next up: Manifest Your Perfect Naturally Redheaded Sexual Lover. Manifest Your Perfect Sexual Friend With Benefits

Might be able to build both tonight. I had forgotten how fast these very short scripts can be built, even in 5G.

The prototype is so long that it takes me days and sometimes weeks to make a single significant adjustment, and then 8 to 12 hours to build it in one stage. These small scripts are a nice change of pace.

Mixed Race!!! fuck yes baby, ohhh yea.......

Friend With Benefits is awesome too...

Maybe Naturally Blonde Haired next?

Also, you said MYP Girlfriend was too different from other scripts, how so? Don't you just have to replace "Sexual Lover" with the word "Girlfriend", just like "Mixed Race" or etc? Or do the scripts have different wordings?

*edit* nevermind I just re-read your post in previous pages. I understand now.