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(05-30-2016, 04:19 PM)Sky_Wolf Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-30-2016, 04:16 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-30-2016, 03:28 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]It occurs to me that AOSI should not be used with pheromones, until you are significantly familiar with how AOSI performs by itself and how pheromones perform by themselves.


What is the reason for this?

Probably so you don't get false positives. So you don't associate the attraction with the wrong product.

Exactly.
(05-30-2016, 04:31 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-30-2016, 04:18 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-30-2016, 04:04 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the words, man! I mean that.

In my case, it isn't a social issue as I'm out in environments with lots of attractive women at least once a week for several hours.
There's a difference between being in environments with lots of attractive women for several hours, and being in an environment where you are TOUCHING attractive women for several hours (like salsa).

BIG difference.

Yeah, true.

I do seem to have intimacy issues, touching them like that and at close range, at a dancing class for a long period of time where I'm expected to do that, tends to make me nervous and uncomfortable. Many times when I seem to accidentally touch them for too long innocently, and they pull away, I always feel I was rejected somehow. Like I was doing something wrong and inappropriate which resulted in them pulling away. Then I feel guilty about it and inhibited further in the future. I feel it's a constant stream of negative feedback, it's hard to break out of the GSF aspects without some positive feedback to let me know I won't be rejected and embarrassed, or worse as I've had often too.

I thought I'd use this program AOSI to give me that positive feedback, but it's becoming more and more obvious, this program isn't right for me...

Honestly, half of me wants to just cycle E2 and AM/BASE and say screw this women-chasing-treadmill-rubic's-cube, and be done with it.

Do E2 for 3 to 9 months. Then assess the landscape. That's my advice.
(05-30-2016, 05:16 PM)Darkness Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-30-2016, 04:46 PM)AlphaMind Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-30-2016, 03:10 PM)Darkness Wrote: [ -> ]I was thinking similarly, I rather it be permanent.

Meh Dodgy

At the end of the day only the Shannon knows the best.

I can't concur, when I'm gonna be using something that's like tom ford's oud wood perfume,a beautiful loss.

Beautiful loss? You haven't any idea what it actually does yet. You guys slay me with your unbelievable assumptions before having any evidence or basis of experience.

You can't know what it does, or how you like what it does, until you ACTUALLY USE IT.

You know... evidence? Facts? Reality?

Beautiful loss. Please.
I have a feeling it will revolutionize how we look at women and subliminals
(05-30-2016, 07:45 PM)Kibagame Jubei Wrote: [ -> ]I have a feeling it will revolutionize how we look at women and subliminals

No pressure there. lol
Maybe I'm not in a position to call that. Lol. Just a satisfied customer's, general observation Smile
(05-30-2016, 07:28 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-30-2016, 03:36 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah it sounds like the sub isn't a permanent sub, and is augmenting "what you currently have", as Shannon has described earlier on as well. Since SM3 totally failed for me and is deemed to be a deep permanent change compared to this program...I'm now not convinced this sub will do much either, at least currently since "what I have" hasn't gotten any success at all. I'll have to rethink whether buying it and switching to it from E2 is wise, sadly. If I didn't get benefit from SM3, I'm probably not likely to get much from this, either. It's going to suck reading epic reports from others, but I did the same thing about SM3 so that isn't new.

We'll see, I just don't want to get my hopes up in my case. I feel it's already been massively over hyped beyond belief, which puts unnecessary pressure on ourselves...and on Shannon.

Let us reiterate that SM3 did not fail you. It's just a set of instructions. The action was on your part, and so if anything, you failed to accept, execute and act on the instructions.

I'm amused how easily you are influenced about things, without ever trying them. But not surprised. It's the end all be all, no, it won't work. Meanwhile, it's not even available for sale yet. Whatever happened to "Let's see what happens when I use it"? Assumptions don't make for very good basis for decisions that produce results, and as a business man, you should know that.

I already told you, you need to focus on clearing out the crap that's holding you down and holding you back. 3 to 9 months of E2 should be massively helpful. Don't try to do AM again until you feel like E2 has cleared out a hell of a lot of crap, and it doesn't hurt when you stop using it and the emotional anesthetic fades away. Once that happens, you may find you don't need to run anything else to accomplish your goals. But if you do want to, then consider AOSI or AM. But first focus on what the real issue is. E2 is the right tool for this job.

I know I'm talking myself out of a sale here, but the fact is, you're better off doing it this way. I'd rather you genuinely fix the problem, than make a little more money in the short run.

What happened?

Probably a combination of a very serious real life crisis today, and being honest with myself and realising that I likely do need months of E2 after all and will miss out on AOSI during the summer that I was really excited about. That's all, just feels like I'd be purposely pushing back getting some success in the part of my life I want handled. But, I don't seem to have much choice, as there's a lot more there for E2 to work on, than I wanted to admit.

It's abundantly obvious I need E2...despite the fact I'm not happy about that. I yearn to have a modicrum of success with women, I feel I've waited LONG enough, but the proof is in the pudding. Fair enough, I will start my E2 journal immediately and live vicariously through AOSI users.

Thank you for your words...

I won't pollute the journal with my pity party any longer, that was somewhat accidental. I apologise to all.
Oud wood the perfume is perfect the only problem it last 2 hrs compared to what one pays for.

From what's been posted, in the moment state shifting, wouldn't allow it to be permanent because it would intervene with other programs.

The program from what the models say, and from having used the 4g version the script is perfect: hence beautiful.

The lack of permanence due to new add-ons: the loss.
Shannon I understand your "Powered Car" theory but I want to know, which part of the AOSI will actually influence you in the long term? Since it isn't designated for permanent aura, which part of the programmings will be there for users to keep after long period of use?

And please answer the difference between this and AM, SM, WM, and BASE. Why will the latter statements be permanent after a long period of use, without powering?
(05-30-2016, 08:11 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-30-2016, 07:28 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-30-2016, 03:36 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah it sounds like the sub isn't a permanent sub, and is augmenting "what you currently have", as Shannon has described earlier on as well. Since SM3 totally failed for me and is deemed to be a deep permanent change compared to this program...I'm now not convinced this sub will do much either, at least currently since "what I have" hasn't gotten any success at all. I'll have to rethink whether buying it and switching to it from E2 is wise, sadly. If I didn't get benefit from SM3, I'm probably not likely to get much from this, either. It's going to suck reading epic reports from others, but I did the same thing about SM3 so that isn't new.

We'll see, I just don't want to get my hopes up in my case. I feel it's already been massively over hyped beyond belief, which puts unnecessary pressure on ourselves...and on Shannon.

Let us reiterate that SM3 did not fail you. It's just a set of instructions. The action was on your part, and so if anything, you failed to accept, execute and act on the instructions.

I'm amused how easily you are influenced about things, without ever trying them. But not surprised. It's the end all be all, no, it won't work. Meanwhile, it's not even available for sale yet. Whatever happened to "Let's see what happens when I use it"? Assumptions don't make for very good basis for decisions that produce results, and as a business man, you should know that.

I already told you, you need to focus on clearing out the crap that's holding you down and holding you back. 3 to 9 months of E2 should be massively helpful. Don't try to do AM again until you feel like E2 has cleared out a hell of a lot of crap, and it doesn't hurt when you stop using it and the emotional anesthetic fades away. Once that happens, you may find you don't need to run anything else to accomplish your goals. But if you do want to, then consider AOSI or AM. But first focus on what the real issue is. E2 is the right tool for this job.

I know I'm talking myself out of a sale here, but the fact is, you're better off doing it this way. I'd rather you genuinely fix the problem, than make a little more money in the short run.

What happened?

Probably a combination of a very serious real life crisis today, and being honest with myself and realising that I likely do need months of E2 after all and will miss out on AOSI during the summer that I was really excited about. That's all, just feels like I'd be purposely pushing back getting some success in the part of my life I want handled. But, I don't seem to have much choice, as there's a lot more there for E2 to work on, than I wanted to admit.

It's abundantly obvious I need E2...despite the fact I'm not happy about that. I yearn to have a modicrum of success with women, I feel I've waited LONG enough, but the proof is in the pudding. Fair enough, I will start my E2 journal immediately and live vicariously through AOSI users.

Thank you for your words...

I won't pollute the journal with my pity party any longer, that was somewhat accidental. I apologise to all.

Here's how this works.

There's a path to the goal, which is easy to walk on, and there's "everywhere else".

The path to the goal is sometimes boring and uninteresting compared to the "everything else", and it's easy to get distracted and wader off the path. But no matter how far off the path you get, and no matter how you might wish it were otherwise, neither the path, nor the goal, changes. You're here to do what you're here to do, and that's that.

Now the goal is going to be achieved, because that's the way things are designed. But you're freely allowed to wander off the path as much and as far as you like, and for as long as you like. But the further and longer you are off that path, the more frustrating and painful it becomes. Sooner or later, you WILL return to the correct path. That's just the way things are designed, because that's what makes the achievement of your goal inevitable. There is no failing; it's just a question of how much time and pain you want to spend on the way.

Your pain and frustration is what it is because you wandered off the path. You tried to have the goal Z without going through points B through Y first. It doesn't work that way. You have to go through A, B, C, ..., X and Y before you get to Z.

I know how you feel, because I have been in your shoes. I know how frothingly ragingly pissed and frustrated I was. But rage and blame and scream and pound walls as I might... the failure was on me for not following the path. I didn't WANT to do B through Y, I wanted Z, dammit!

But when I ran out of energy to fight, and I did the B through Y, I got Z. In this case, Z is pussy and relationships with women. I had a lot of stuff to outgrow and face and work through. It scared the shit out of me, but I had to do it. The way the system is designed, eventually, you'll be forced to face it if you don't face it on your own. Well, I got forced, and I faced it and I grew. Not happily. Not pleasantly. But I grew.

Once I had grown past the lessons I had to face, I found what I was looking for. Now I have unlimited Z, and more coming. It's everywhere, just a question of which one(s) I want to accept into my life. I can't even keep up with it all now! No joke.

The moral of the story is... resistance is futile. You must progress from point A to B, and then to C, and then D and so on, to achieve Z. There is no escape, no exception, and no secret cheat code. The sooner you realize, understand and accept this, the sooner you can deal with the shot you wish you didn't have to deal with. And the sooner you do that, the sooner you CAN spend the summer tagging hotties left and right if you want to.

E2 is the most direct way to your goal. Trust me. I would love to sell you a copy of AOSI, but I would much rather you be successful first, so you can actually enjoy it. And everything else you buy from us. Smile
(05-30-2016, 08:18 PM)Darkness Wrote: [ -> ]Oud wood the perfume is perfect the only problem it last 2 hrs compared to what one pays for.

From what's been posted, in the moment state shifting, wouldn't allow it to be permanent because it would intervene with other programs.

The program from what the models say, and from having used the 4g version the script is perfect: hence beautiful.

The lack of permanence due to new add-ons: the loss.

The models never said the program was perfect. They do say that it will greatly please the vast majority of it's users over the long term.

But you still have to use it before passing judgement. It's designed to be used for months on end and generate and maintain a state of flow that achieves your goals, but also allows you to shift gears if you want to. Unfortunately, you cannot have two disparate goals at a time; so if you do BASE, expect to focus on business. Do AM, and focus on AM goals.

If you want to be sexy, use AOSI. It's designed for short term and long term effect, so you can use it for a night out, or you can spend weeks and months on it to max out the effect. How can that be a loss? That's the best of all options!
When will we be able to purchase AOSI?
(05-30-2016, 08:20 PM)Jakeb203 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon I understand your "Powered Car" theory but I want to know, which part of the AOSI will actually influence you in the long term? Since it isn't designated for permanent aura, which part of the programmings will be there for users to keep after long period of use?

And please answer the difference between this and AM, SM, WM, and BASE. Why will the latter statements be permanent after a long period of use, without powering?

The long term effects will come from the majority of the BIABWS script and some of the AOS script. The supporting functions, such as adjusting your self respect, self worth, self supportingness, self likingness, confidence, ego balancing, self validation, self reliance and all the other personal inner qualities that support and enhance a person's attractiveness.

When I say "powering" I am referring to the energy flooding technology. Those programs don't use energy flooding.

Energy flooding requires a lot of energy, focus and attention subconsciously. It's a little like going to work every day. While you're at work, you're selling your time and labor and skills to your employer, and you have to do the job to get paid. But once you get off work, you stop, because you don't have to anymore. It's a lot less work and energy and effort.

The subconscious doesn't want to spend energy and effort doing something it doesn't have to do, and that increases in truth as the energy and effort and motivation requirements go up. So when you stop requiring and motivating it, it stops doing the job.

The scripting and technologies used in the other programs are much less demanding in terms of constant attention, effort, motivation and energy than energy flooding is. Hence, they tend to be longer lasting, because that requires less effort and energy and motivation by far.
(05-30-2016, 08:27 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-30-2016, 08:11 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-30-2016, 07:28 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-30-2016, 03:36 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah it sounds like the sub isn't a permanent sub, and is augmenting "what you currently have", as Shannon has described earlier on as well. Since SM3 totally failed for me and is deemed to be a deep permanent change compared to this program...I'm now not convinced this sub will do much either, at least currently since "what I have" hasn't gotten any success at all. I'll have to rethink whether buying it and switching to it from E2 is wise, sadly. If I didn't get benefit from SM3, I'm probably not likely to get much from this, either. It's going to suck reading epic reports from others, but I did the same thing about SM3 so that isn't new.

We'll see, I just don't want to get my hopes up in my case. I feel it's already been massively over hyped beyond belief, which puts unnecessary pressure on ourselves...and on Shannon.

Let us reiterate that SM3 did not fail you. It's just a set of instructions. The action was on your part, and so if anything, you failed to accept, execute and act on the instructions.

I'm amused how easily you are influenced about things, without ever trying them. But not surprised. It's the end all be all, no, it won't work. Meanwhile, it's not even available for sale yet. Whatever happened to "Let's see what happens when I use it"? Assumptions don't make for very good basis for decisions that produce results, and as a business man, you should know that.

I already told you, you need to focus on clearing out the crap that's holding you down and holding you back. 3 to 9 months of E2 should be massively helpful. Don't try to do AM again until you feel like E2 has cleared out a hell of a lot of crap, and it doesn't hurt when you stop using it and the emotional anesthetic fades away. Once that happens, you may find you don't need to run anything else to accomplish your goals. But if you do want to, then consider AOSI or AM. But first focus on what the real issue is. E2 is the right tool for this job.

I know I'm talking myself out of a sale here, but the fact is, you're better off doing it this way. I'd rather you genuinely fix the problem, than make a little more money in the short run.

What happened?

Probably a combination of a very serious real life crisis today, and being honest with myself and realising that I likely do need months of E2 after all and will miss out on AOSI during the summer that I was really excited about. That's all, just feels like I'd be purposely pushing back getting some success in the part of my life I want handled. But, I don't seem to have much choice, as there's a lot more there for E2 to work on, than I wanted to admit.

It's abundantly obvious I need E2...despite the fact I'm not happy about that. I yearn to have a modicrum of success with women, I feel I've waited LONG enough, but the proof is in the pudding. Fair enough, I will start my E2 journal immediately and live vicariously through AOSI users.

Thank you for your words...

I won't pollute the journal with my pity party any longer, that was somewhat accidental. I apologise to all.

Here's how this works.

There's a path to the goal, which is easy to walk on, and there's "everywhere else".

The path to the goal is sometimes boring and uninteresting compared to the "everything else", and it's easy to get distracted and wader off the path. But no matter how far off the path you get, and no matter how you might wish it were otherwise, neither the path, nor the goal, changes. You're here to do what you're here to do, and that's that.

Now the goal is going to be achieved, because that's the way things are designed. But you're freely allowed to wander off the path as much and as far as you like, and for as long as you like. But the further and longer you are off that path, the more frustrating and painful it becomes. Sooner or later, you WILL return to the correct path. That's just the way things are designed, because that's what makes the achievement of your goal inevitable. There is no failing; it's just a question of how much time and pain you want to spend on the way.

Your pain and frustration is what it is because you wandered off the path. You tried to have the goal Z without going through points B through Y first. It doesn't work that way. You have to go through A, B, C, ..., X and Y before you get to Z.

I know how you feel, because I have been in your shoes. I know how frothingly ragingly pissed and frustrated I was. But rage and blame and scream and pound walls as I might... the failure was on me for not following the path. I didn't WANT to do B through Y, I wanted Z, dammit!

But when I ran out of energy to fight, and I did the B through Y, I got Z. In this case, Z is pussy and relationships with women. I had a lot of stuff to outgrow and face and work through. It scared the shit out of me, but I had to do it. The way the system is designed, eventually, you'll be forced to face it if you don't face it on your own. Well, I got forced, and I faced it and I grew. Not happily. Not pleasantly. But I grew.

Once I had grown past the lessons I had to face, I found what I was looking for. Now I have unlimited Z, and more coming. It's everywhere, just a question of which one(s) I want to accept into my life. I can't even keep up with it all now! No joke.

The moral of the story is... resistance is futile. You must progress from point A to B, and then to C, and then D and so on, to achieve Z. There is no escape, no exception, and no secret cheat code. The sooner you realize, understand and accept this, the sooner you can deal with the shot you wish you didn't have to deal with. And the sooner you do that, the sooner you CAN spend the summer tagging hotties left and right if you want to.

E2 is the most direct way to your goal. Trust me. I would love to sell you a copy of AOSI, but I would much rather you be successful first, so you can actually enjoy it. And everything else you buy from us. Smile

Don't worry CatMan, I'm in the same boat as you. I'm gonna be on E2 for a while even though AOSI sounds awesome.

And Shannon, I feel like answered me without me ever asking. I was going to ask sometime in the future if after E2 I could run AOSI and then AM after that. I know that immediately following up E2 with AM is the best choice so I can immediately start building a strong foundation on the land I just took months to clean.

I do have a question though. Comparing the goals of SM to AOSI, what are the key differences? It seems like it's the same goal, but AOSI relies on an aura being powered. Would SM end up making the user sexually irresistible to the girls they find attractive? Just curious, thanks.
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