Random blurb.
ASC should be the first 6G sub. That sub in 5G seems to work for everybody. I can't imagine how well it would work in 6G.
I got a question .. does the heavier resistance you face (i.e, feeling suicidal) provide greater breakthrough than lesser resistance, once surpassed ? I imagine it might be so, but I'm also imagining that the end result would be the same for someone who faced major resistance and the person who faced minor resistance. .
(07-07-2016, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2016, 12:34 AM)jacksonchandra Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, did DMSI 2.1 still using Energy Flooding from food? Or overall from non-physical sources? Or still both?
2.1 uses only non-physical energy, which is apparently why you're seeing it be a lot less dramatic and a lot longer to power up.
The first version used food almost exclusively.
Version 2.2 will use whatever is best as a way to achieve the goal, from both physical and nonphysical sources of energy.
Nice, because although I was eating like a mainiac in v1. The heat made me feel like I was burning fat. On top of the aura being stronger.
(07-07-2016, 03:48 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2016, 03:46 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2016, 11:22 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2016, 10:21 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]I went on a trip to Europe with family. Can someone update me on what's going on with this DMSI thing? Is it too late to become a tester for it? 
http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/d...stibility/
From the product page:
This program is currently in TESTING status. It therefore is not eligible for a refund under ANY circumstances. If you purchase this program, you are eligible for free upgrades to the stable version in the 2.x version branch instead. Please bear this in mind when deciding whether or not to purchase this program.
Cool, what if I purchased AOSI already? Is the free upgrade to 2.0 still in order?
If you bought V1.0, you're welcome to test 2.x for free. Just download it. You should have the links on your download page. If not, ask Ben for help via e-mail to the back end.
Ah ok very cool. I'm guessing once the official final version comes out, it'll also be automatically added to my downloads section?
(07-07-2016, 03:14 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2016, 02:14 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ]...
You feel bad (guilt/shame) for getting off it?
If you are experiencing guilt and shame, still, then you are not done healing.
If you are AFRAID that you might miss your goals by using the program that is designed to remove FEAR, then you are not done being cleared of fear.
Once you get through the healing, your inward focus will shift outward again and you'll be able to do anything. It's not going to turn you into a passive bird feeder.
Think you just closed that case as to what you should be doing - but it's your call.
Well tbh I experience more shame in not being able to turn to that external focus and wallowing around like a weak little girl. Not that ashamed about how people think of me, but more shame/disappointment as in I myself think I should be stronger than that already.
FEARLESS is a goal I understand; HEALED (with the loving energy in E2) brings up something much more passive for me. On ASC I feel like a hero; "healed" sounds like the hero's grandfather. Ah, movies.
Anyway, the part in of your answer I put in bold font there is very clear and practical, thanks. Its almost the same as "you can stop once there is no more resistance", but "your inward focus will shift outward again" is much more concrete for me, somehow. Hopefully I'll take off like a rocket with ASC 6G from there on out.
Thanks for listening, happy hoverboarding!
Does the DMSI Goal #2 deal with removing subconscious approval seeking desires and behaviors, neediness, and caring what other people think?
(07-08-2016, 12:45 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Does the DMSI Goal #2 deal with removing subconscious approval seeking desires and behaviors, neediness, and caring what other people think?
Not directly, it's primarily aimed at overcoming gsf, self validation, overcoming resistance and creating a mindset of deserved ness for the results the program is designed to get. The whole, not all of which is mentioned, is aimed at getting the user to allow themselves to create the desired reality by executing the script.
It can have those effects indirectly.
Hey guys.
I'm on day 38 of E2, at 12-15 hrs per day. Not really noticing any effects besides a slight depression and major lack of motivation.
I read reports from fellow E2 listeners having vivid dreams and feelings of joy or happiness, but I don't recall ANY dreams or any feelings besides depression on E2. My baseline emotional state before starting E2 was normally "happy", I might add.
Hardly any interest in women, or hanging out with friends since a week into E2. Last two weeks I'm a hermit, playing videogames and wathing NetFlix in my lonesome...
In the beginning I got fatigued from listening 16+ hours, so I scaled down to 8 and worked my way up to where I can do 12+ without feeling burned out, but I'm still tired.
Is this resistance? Is E2 working for me? Should I do more/less hours? Should I be doing something to "help" E2? (I just press play, no meditation or whatever tapping is)
Gaah, I'm all over the place with these doubts and insecurities!
In short; is there a light at the end of this E2 tunnel, or am I seeing the train a comin'?
(07-08-2016, 03:12 AM)Gotcha Wrote: [ -> ]Hey guys.
I'm on day 38 of E2, at 12-15 hrs per day. Not really noticing any effects besides a slight depression and major lack of motivation.
I read reports from fellow E2 listeners having vivid dreams and feelings of joy or happiness, but I don't recall ANY dreams or any feelings besides depression on E2. My baseline emotional state before starting E2 was normally "happy", I might add.
Hardly any interest in women, or hanging out with friends since a week into E2. Last two weeks I'm a hermit, playing videogames and wathing NetFlix in my lonesome...
In the beginning I got fatigued from listening 16+ hours, so I scaled down to 8 and worked my way up to where I can do 12+ without feeling burned out, but I'm still tired.
Is this resistance? Is E2 working for me? Should I do more/less hours? Should I be doing something to "help" E2? (I just press play, no meditation or whatever tapping is)
Gaah, I'm all over the place with these doubts and insecurities!
In short; is there a light at the end of this E2 tunnel, or am I seeing the train a comin'?
That's exactly what the program seems to do...
Works under the surface, almost TOO well. The result is you not really seeing much different for a long time, and this odd, latent, crappy, depressed feeling in the background and a massive loss of motivation to do things. That's exactly my experience, too. You just seem to vegitate while it does it's thing, keep in mind lethargy is also a common form of resistance. So yes, all of us are going through the "silent monk/lone wolf" phase on E2, lol...
It took me a good 35-40 days to see some signs of tangible life from it, I guess some of us, it takes a long time, either due to resistance, or due to us not seeing what it's doing for a long time as it's subtle and under the surface mostly.
Short answer: it's exactly as it should be. Stick with it longer, and you'll see more things changing. You won't know how exactly it's changed you until you're in a situation that you struggled with in the past, and can finally have a measure to compare now versus then for progress. Until then, it'll mostly be the experience described while it does it's job.
Keep going, Don Corleone!
(07-08-2016, 03:20 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2016, 03:12 AM)Gotcha Wrote: [ -> ]Hey guys.
I'm on day 38 of E2, at 12-15 hrs per day. Not really noticing any effects besides a slight depression and major lack of motivation.
I read reports from fellow E2 listeners having vivid dreams and feelings of joy or happiness, but I don't recall ANY dreams or any feelings besides depression on E2. My baseline emotional state before starting E2 was normally "happy", I might add.
Hardly any interest in women, or hanging out with friends since a week into E2. Last two weeks I'm a hermit, playing videogames and wathing NetFlix in my lonesome...
In the beginning I got fatigued from listening 16+ hours, so I scaled down to 8 and worked my way up to where I can do 12+ without feeling burned out, but I'm still tired.
Is this resistance? Is E2 working for me? Should I do more/less hours? Should I be doing something to "help" E2? (I just press play, no meditation or whatever tapping is)
Gaah, I'm all over the place with these doubts and insecurities!
In short; is there a light at the end of this E2 tunnel, or am I seeing the train a comin'?
That's exactly what the program seems to do...
Works under the surface, almost TOO well. The result is you not really seeing much different for a long time, and this odd, latent, crappy, depressed feeling in the background and a massive loss of motivation to do things. That's exactly my experience, too. You just seem to vegitate while it does it's thing, keep in mind lethargy is also a common form of resistance. So yes, all of us are going through the "silent monk/lone wolf" phase on E2, lol...
It took me a good 35-40 days to see some signs of tangible life from it, I guess some of us, it takes a long time, either due to resistance, or due to us not seeing what it's doing for a long time as it's subtle and under the surface mostly.
Short answer: it's exactly as it should be. Stick with it longer, and you'll see more things changing. You won't know how exactly it's changed you until you're in a situation that you struggled with in the past, and can finally have a measure to compare now versus then for progress. Until then, it'll mostly be the experience described while it does it's job.
Keep going, Don Corleone!
Instead of being this incredibly painful journey to heal, it's way more stable low mood, until it starts going back up again. I couldn't even begin to imagine how hard it would be to deal with those things without E2, on my own. Today I'm having a quite relaxed and positive day after a long time of feeling depressed. It will get better for you too!
The waves and severity of the depression seems to vary from person to person. I am actually quite glad that these things get dealt with under the surface, doing this consciously could be quite painful and hard.
(07-07-2016, 03:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-06-2016, 11:13 PM)Hercules Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, will a complete run of EPHRA erase generational trauma inherited from our DNA.
I have no knowledge of, or evidence of, there being generational trauma inherited from DNA. I therefore cannot answer that question. I would suspect that there is no such thing, and therefore the answer is no, but if that does exist, it is theoretically within the scope of the instruction set, as it uses the polymorphic Optimus Engine. And if that is within the scope of ability of the subconscious mind, which I believe it is, then if such a thing does exist, it would seem reasonable to presume that E2 could in fact make such a change happen through a willing subconscious.
Actually there have been some experiments, where mice developed a phobia after being exposed to electric shocks, and those phobias were passed down to their progeny, that even though were not exposed to the electric shock themselves, they had the phobia nonetheless.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/...stors.html
Pretty interesting stuff, this also means that positive stuff that we develope in our lifetime (super confidence, good with the ladies, great learning abilities,etc), could be passed down too ?
I for one can tell, that i inherited my dads very light trigger for anger, and easy to emotionally lose control, even though he died when i was 2, so i don't think i learned this directly from him. All this improved significantly with E2.
Edit: oops just saw that hercules showed some links to the studies.
(07-08-2016, 05:14 AM)Natious Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2016, 03:20 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2016, 03:12 AM)Gotcha Wrote: [ -> ]Hey guys.
I'm on day 38 of E2, at 12-15 hrs per day. Not really noticing any effects besides a slight depression and major lack of motivation.
I read reports from fellow E2 listeners having vivid dreams and feelings of joy or happiness, but I don't recall ANY dreams or any feelings besides depression on E2. My baseline emotional state before starting E2 was normally "happy", I might add.
Hardly any interest in women, or hanging out with friends since a week into E2. Last two weeks I'm a hermit, playing videogames and wathing NetFlix in my lonesome...
In the beginning I got fatigued from listening 16+ hours, so I scaled down to 8 and worked my way up to where I can do 12+ without feeling burned out, but I'm still tired.
Is this resistance? Is E2 working for me? Should I do more/less hours? Should I be doing something to "help" E2? (I just press play, no meditation or whatever tapping is)
Gaah, I'm all over the place with these doubts and insecurities!
In short; is there a light at the end of this E2 tunnel, or am I seeing the train a comin'?
That's exactly what the program seems to do...
Works under the surface, almost TOO well. The result is you not really seeing much different for a long time, and this odd, latent, crappy, depressed feeling in the background and a massive loss of motivation to do things. That's exactly my experience, too. You just seem to vegitate while it does it's thing, keep in mind lethargy is also a common form of resistance. So yes, all of us are going through the "silent monk/lone wolf" phase on E2, lol...
It took me a good 35-40 days to see some signs of tangible life from it, I guess some of us, it takes a long time, either due to resistance, or due to us not seeing what it's doing for a long time as it's subtle and under the surface mostly.
Short answer: it's exactly as it should be. Stick with it longer, and you'll see more things changing. You won't know how exactly it's changed you until you're in a situation that you struggled with in the past, and can finally have a measure to compare now versus then for progress. Until then, it'll mostly be the experience described while it does it's job.
Keep going, Don Corleone!
Instead of being this incredibly painful journey to heal, it's way more stable low mood, until it starts going back up again. I couldn't even begin to imagine how hard it would be to deal with those things without E2, on my own. Today I'm having a quite relaxed and positive day after a long time of feeling depressed. It will get better for you too!
The waves and severity of the depression seems to vary from person to person. I am actually quite glad that these things get dealt with under the surface, doing this consciously could be quite painful and hard.
Have you received medical treatment for depression ? it may assist you
if it werent for the rejuvenizer and the clearings both from lighthealing.com I'd be in a major funk downer too. making yer self wrong for being there doesnt help either...affirming your courage for being willing to process all of this deep shit is noble as hell. I call upon MY Viking/Celtic ancestors and MY Cherokee/Tuscarora ancestors for strength as well. The Warrior SPIRIT, & prayer,intention and serving others helps me( good vitality elements from abouve,you know when you get chills from giving,or uplifting someone or telling your truth and you KNOW its da truth and you get chills,thats food fer your soul-
vitality elements ,comes from life,the universe and all the elements!) and most of all remember how much yu are loved man and how love-able you are !! NO Bull, just sincere. Keith 47 days into E2.