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(11-10-2015, 05:34 PM)Chopp Wrote: [ -> ]I believe that that the real issue is that he continues to change his tactics to cause confusion, create random accounts to agree with himself, and lie (I have PMs from him doing exactly that). I personally find that reason enough to remove his posts, especially since Shannon warned in his journal that creating additional accounts after being banned would result in being banned again.

Additionally, I have a sneaking suspicion that he has a motive behind his actions based on something he said in his original "farewell" (flame) post. I'm just waiting for him to spring it.

In regards to your additional concerns, have you posted them anywhere? I'm sure doing so in a respectful manner (unlike Ryan) and in a place that Shannon looks would be answered. People can see for themselves already that the magnets are not producing the desired results, and none of those journal posts have been deleted. Hell, my run of SM3 was mostly uneventful, but personally I would like to run it again before deciding.

Dah, alright. If someone is PMing someone, and/or attacking them (as opposed to just disagreeing with someone), I'm not against banning. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and believe people have better things to do than to troll this forum, but I know the reality of the internet. Oh well.

And I'm not going to post/ask any of my concerns. I don't have $500 to burn at the moment, and I'd rather run AM6 again if I were to ever do SM3. Maybe someday.
(11-10-2015, 08:10 AM)Survivor Wrote: [ -> ]Douglas raises some good points. I trust Shannon completely, but the cult forming around Shannon on the forum is not helping us objectively.Also we have to note something interesting: nobody posts about FAILED program in the testimonial section, it is only full of positive results. But in the journals, we see failed results..

By the way, I didn't see much from Am6, I am running it again now.

It seems that the programs work for some people and not for others with resistant personalities.. it seems that some programs work for particular person, others not.. some people don't listen properly .. and some people need more runs as they are way behind what the programs are trying to achieve.. 6G should handle most of the resistant personalities issue. However,one of the biggest reason is FEAR-deeply rooted limiting fear.
The problem comes when we have a resistant personality,fear,strong will , all at the same time,and at the same type being far away from the goal of the program.

To be specific... 6G will handle most of the resistant personality issues IF I get the script exactly right. In other words, it appears there will always be some ever decreasing percentage of the population who associates one or more words in the script with connotations they ab-react to, and resist.

The 6G prototype is estimated at about 300k words now, and I have a devil of a time adjusting it now because every time I make it more complex, it becomes more and more sensitive to the wording I choose. One wrong word choice and it stops working as well. Thank goodness I have these predictive models and that they are as accurate as they are. This is why I am now building one new prototype version every 2 weeks, and spending the rest of that time trying to add 1-3 new instruction statements. The good news is, it is increasingly looking possible to create a skeleton script out of this.

However, 6G is not a miracle cure for all resistance. I have had two of my most resistant testers succeed in disregarding it on a couple of occasions, depending on which version it was. One consistently allows herself to be influenced only the first time she is exposed to that version (major control freak to the point of destructiveness for herself and even her children and pets occasionally) and and the other is a primarily intellectually focused personality type which is disconnected from the emotions (subconscious) in a manner that makes it difficult for the subconscious to influence the conscious mind because of the conscious focus. In other words, the alignment of the conscious and subconscious meets resistance because this personality type is actually afraid of itself... the conscious mind fears the irrationality of the subconscious mind, and dominates it, severing the emotional connection and expression. I'm still working for these reasons. Don't think 6G is a perfect cure for all woes. I'll be developing subs and associated technology for a long time to come. That said, 6G is definitely a very, very impressive step up from 5G even now.
(11-10-2015, 08:41 AM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]I would like the product pages to be really about that product and that product version. A testimonial for an earlier version of that program is nice, but newer versions of the same program act differently, so I think it's misleading if testimonials of earlier versions are put up directly at the product page. Please change that.

As long as the review is labeled as being about a different version, why would that matter? The programs are bgetting better with each new version and generation released.
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(11-10-2015, 12:11 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ][quote='Survivor' pid='89606' dateline='1447171834']
Douglas raises some good points. I trust Shannon completely, but the cult forming around Shannon on the forum is not helping us objectively.Also we have to note something interesting: nobody posts about FAILED program in the testimonial section, it is only full of positive results. But in the journals, we see failed results..

The testimonials area is designed for collecting and making it easy to find positive results.

Quote:[quote]By the way, I didn't see much from Am6, I am running it again now.

It seems that the programs work for some people and not for others with resistant personalities.. it seems that some programs work for particular person, others not.. some people don't listen properly .. and some people need more runs as they are way behind what the programs are trying to achieve.. 6G should handle most of the resistant personalities issue.
The problem comes when we have a resistant personality,strong will , and at the same type being far away from the goal of the program.

Hmm I'm thinking about that, and I think your "strong will" may actually be a weak will. You know deep down that you want to change and improve, but you haven't had the will to do that by yourself in the past. Hence you turn to subliminals. And even with the subliminals, your subconscious and conscious mind both know you need to change and improve your life, but are not willfully changing. I think the more accurate thing to say is, you have a lot and very deep-rooted subconscious fear, which resists the program, and prevents you from taking action during your run. I for one, am certain I gained many great improvements in inner self, but my subconscious fear prevented me from taking action, and actually changing my actual predicament and situation in life.

Weak wills tend to be more easily influenced. They are actually more responsive, not more resistant. That is not to say that more responsive = weak will, it just so happens that I am very strong willed and very responsive. But when it comes to resistance, willpower is what resists cooperation, because the scripts are designed to be VERY persuasive in 5G, and much more so in 6G.

Having the will to do something is irrelevant if there is no desire, and if the desire to not do something is outweighed by the desire to do it, weak willed or not, you're not going to do it.

I know a number of people who are very weak willed, however. The two most prominent are testers for me, and both have the interesting quirk that they have one specific aspect of their personalities that is very strong willed. Generally they are effortless for me to influence with the 6G prototype, but recently I added an experimental statement that was designed to include one of these two and exclude the other based on a specific physical characteristic that embarrasses the owner of it. The way it is worded, the exclusion should only result in less magnification of the script. Yet instead of that, leaving her with the previous level of response, she actually stopped responding in the moment at all. Before I removed that statement, instead of starting to experience the effects of the prototype within seconds flat, it took her 4 + hours of exposure! Still ridiculously fast compared to most subs, but also still a drastic decrease of speed. Once it was removed, she went back to responding in seconds flat.

So even generally weak willed people may have some aspect of their personality that is strong willed and can resist. Purely weak willed people usually end up being lost in escape through alcohol and/or drugs because they cannot deal with life effectively.
(11-10-2015, 12:19 PM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]What's the ETA for OF 5g? I want to know if I'll be able to run it in a couple weeks when my AM run is done or if I should move on to something else until its released.

I'm working on it. Should be available within 1-2 weeks, so hold on tight.
(11-10-2015, 05:16 PM)Dzemoo Wrote: [ -> ]guys if you like shanons stuff and want to use it then do it if dont then dont, i think if shanon could make the programs any better he would do it

This is why I am always working to make my programs better. In fact even within a single generation, you see a trend towards continuous improvement as my research develops my knowledge and understanding. 6G is the result of me not being satisfied with the results people get with 5G.
(11-10-2015, 07:55 PM)Dilettante Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-31-2014, 09:45 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You have to use it for long enough, or it cannot "weave together the threads of fate" for you properly. The reason these programs work so slowly is because they must rely on using passive manifestation. Fully active manifestation is only just now becoming a possibility for this type of program, and I am far from ready to start producing fully active manifestation programs.

seen here in regards to AYPSSL 4G
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-2764-p...l#pid62780

Shannon, may I ask how close you are in achieving this in 6g. Is it achievable for the 6G AYP/MYP?

I would say 6 to 12 months, likely. But don't take that as set in stone.
Hey Shannon, I know it's a bit early to ask, but if you have an answer I'd love to hear it.

I'm considering running OF 4G + Overcome Victim Mentality 4G before doing AM6. I think the two of them together should definitely erase any and all limits that may be affecting me subconsciously. A part of me does feel like I do deserve more in life and that I've been cheated by being dealt unfavorable hand. That is soo far in the back of my mind though I don't think about it much. Whereas I'll have SOME kind of fear related response (ex. social anxiety/approach anxiety/performance anxiety/hesitation) at least once a day. I can deal with it, but I want to take ALL of the limits off of me.

Would that 4G combo be better for me OR will OF 5G definitely take care of it all?
Chopp is correct, a while ago Ryan was telling people how to use AM properly and stuff like that, now he is pretending he is a 'potential customer' for AM and SM.. and everything else he does and says is dishonest.

To everyone else, of course you are able to bring up concerns, but he just can't be taken seriously after all that he's done so he will keep getting deleted no matter how convincing he seems, i'm glad people noticed it though.

Quote:I'm working on it. Should be available within 1-2 weeks, so hold on tight.

Nice, hopefully it's ready by the time I finish AM6 and have my break.
(11-10-2015, 08:53 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, I know it's a bit early to ask, but if you have an answer I'd love to hear it.

I'm considering running OF 4G + Overcome Victim Mentality 4G before doing AM6. I think the two of them together should definitely erase any and all limits that may be affecting me subconsciously. A part of me does feel like I do deserve more in life and that I've been cheated by being dealt unfavorable hand. That is soo far in the back of my mind though I don't think about it much. Whereas I'll have SOME kind of fear related response (ex. social anxiety/approach anxiety/performance anxiety/hesitation) at least once a day. I can deal with it, but I want to take ALL of the limits off of me.

Would that 4G combo be better for me OR will OF 5G definitely take care of it all?

I can't say definitively because I have not got a deep enough understanding of your specific situation, and I have not finished building or even scripting OF 5G yet. Sorry, I don't know.
(11-10-2015, 08:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2015, 07:55 PM)Dilettante Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-31-2014, 09:45 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You have to use it for long enough, or it cannot "weave together the threads of fate" for you properly. The reason these programs work so slowly is because they must rely on using passive manifestation. Fully active manifestation is only just now becoming a possibility for this type of program, and I am far from ready to start producing fully active manifestation programs.

seen here in regards to AYPSSL 4G
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-2764-p...l#pid62780

Shannon, may I ask how close you are in achieving this in 6g. Is it achievable for the 6G AYP/MYP?

I would say 6 to 12 months, likely. But don't take that as set in stone.

As in 6-12 months, 6G may be done?
(11-10-2015, 08:39 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2015, 12:19 PM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]What's the ETA for OF 5g? I want to know if I'll be able to run it in a couple weeks when my AM run is done or if I should move on to something else until its released.

I'm working on it. Should be available within 1-2 weeks, so hold on tight.

I am so stoked! Thanks for hearing us out Smile.
(11-10-2015, 11:34 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2015, 08:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2015, 07:55 PM)Dilettante Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-31-2014, 09:45 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You have to use it for long enough, or it cannot "weave together the threads of fate" for you properly. The reason these programs work so slowly is because they must rely on using passive manifestation. Fully active manifestation is only just now becoming a possibility for this type of program, and I am far from ready to start producing fully active manifestation programs.

seen here in regards to AYPSSL 4G
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-2764-p...l#pid62780

Shannon, may I ask how close you are in achieving this in 6g. Is it achievable for the 6G AYP/MYP?

I would say 6 to 12 months, likely. But don't take that as set in stone.

As in 6-12 months, 6G may be done?

I am expecting to be able to release the first 6G programming sometime in 2016. At the moment, however, I still have a lot of work to do. My list of ideas for new stuff is growing faster than I can verify and implement it.
(11-11-2015, 12:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2015, 11:34 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2015, 08:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2015, 07:55 PM)Dilettante Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-31-2014, 09:45 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You have to use it for long enough, or it cannot "weave together the threads of fate" for you properly. The reason these programs work so slowly is because they must rely on using passive manifestation. Fully active manifestation is only just now becoming a possibility for this type of program, and I am far from ready to start producing fully active manifestation programs.

seen here in regards to AYPSSL 4G
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-2764-p...l#pid62780

Shannon, may I ask how close you are in achieving this in 6g. Is it achievable for the 6G AYP/MYP?

I would say 6 to 12 months, likely. But don't take that as set in stone.

As in 6-12 months, 6G may be done?

I am expecting to be able to release the first 6G programming sometime in 2016. At the moment, however, I still have a lot of work to do. My list of ideas for new stuff is growing faster than I can verify and implement it.

Ah ok, cool. I thought that 6G was many years into the future. Awesome that it's so close.

By the way, are you planning to make the other MYP subs? Such as Stunningly Beautiful Sexual Lover, and Naturally Blonde Sexual Lover?
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